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posted ago by Nekroziz ago by Nekroziz +2852 / -0

When I have more time to write, I’ll get a full detailed update in this thread, but I want to let you know why you’re not hearing anything when the senate got what they wanted.

  1. Secretary of State, Katie Hobbs wants the Brennan Center and Voting Works to be the legislatures auditors. Both of these companies are laughably not “non partisan,” inept, and I’ll be getting more into this very shortly. This is on Ducey’s behalf. It’s Kemp/Raffensberger 2.0. They want a super small scope, basically a virus scan and check if it has an internet connection, and this is after SLI and V&V got to mess with everythibg for a week.

  2. Fann is basically going which way the wind blows at this point.

  3. Jovan is making demands and what are perceived as threats that he doesn’t have the leverage to make other than his “base”. To those in power they look at him as someone who cannot be trusted, because unfortunately he has a history of lying and stirring people up (look up his Oak Island debacle for example). He is giving no specifics, has lied over and over, and is demanding everything associated with the election without giving anything past “I know what I’m doing”. That’s not how things work, but politically the Fann’s feel they’re in a lose / lose situation, and they might as well go with Ducey because if they don’t go with Jovan everyone will be mad anyway. I’ve been trying to be nice about it, but he’s gone too far here.

  4. Finchem/Borelli/Peterson (guys on our side) are still fighting, but want the AG to get involved due to this bullshit.

  5. The board are trying to make the legislature look inept by saying they don’t know where to put the ballots- the 3 aforementioned people don’t want them being moved anywhere as it’s a crime scene, and the others want them moved for these two bullshit companies to further obfuscate chain of custody.

That’s about it at this moment, please get involved, call / email, whatever you can do- do it. Col. Waldron should be auditing right now, ASOG are the only company who were given a preliminary contract. At minimum, you need to say NO right now to leftist Brennan Center and Voting Works being ANYWHERE NEAR an audit.

I will be back to give more detail, just wanted to get this up fast because it’s gotten bad enough, and I’m not standing by for another Georgia bs move when these are supposed to be republicans “on our side”.

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itswood 19 points ago +22 / -3

Thank you for the update. I try to keep up-to-date on all of these different pieces pulling in their own separate direction.

I think one thing is for certain, to have gone this far only to "give in" and let any shady auditor get their hands on the goods is completely unacceptable.

As for Jovan, I don't know much about his past. I got the impression from his YouTube updates that he's really getting fed up with this bureaucratic process that's been hamstringed every step of the way. And he may come off as a little cocky, but honestly he's put a lot of time and effort into this project. Especially when you look at big picture election fraud stuff...there's been a real shortage of experts who are interested in full transparency. He's stepped forward, created his kinematic system for fraud detection, and has been offering it to the good people of Arizona for weeks. And where has this gotten him? It's put a big target on his back, it's had people dig through his past, and even through all that he still takes the time to update anyone as to the current state of affairs in AZ.

So if he's getting frustrated and making threats he cant back up....well I'm of the opinion that he's earned that. I look at all the different types of fraud in the country, and I am so dismayed to consistently fail to find anyone willing/able to fight it. It's left me somewhat worried about 2022 and 2024. I think if we had multiple Jovan's dedicating the entirety of their time and energy into each instance, well then I think we'd be in a much better place.

Obviously I don't know all the minute details here - and I do truly appreciate you posting this update so there's another viewpoint to be taken into consideration. But like I said before, anything short of a full forensic audit at this point would be considered a crushing defeat. And after reading what you wrote, and listening to Jovan, it seems to me like he's the only solution that ends in a possible WIN for liberty and justice in AZ.

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Heroftheday 19 points ago +19 / -0

No. You can't barge your way in because this is now getting national coverage. He was no where to be found until this went big. He's getting name recognition at the expense of our efforts here. Thus has been months in the making and he's using its popularity.

No I say this goes to the audit group that has been pushing and sacrificing all these months back and forth in Maricopa. I don't understand audits or why there's such competition or why Jovan couldn't do the ballots and ASOG do the machines, but if there's going to be an audit team it should definately be the one necroziz is pursuing. And we need to stay as focused and undivided in our support as hard left congress Democrats. Why has this blown up on our end? This is how these things get muddied. We are about to get neither Jovan nor ASOG if you don't stop shooting the people in the foot as we try to get in the door after all this work.

ASOG has successfully outed fraud already in Georgia it sounds like and I haven't heard Jovan on this until a couple days ago and before that at the Georgia hearing.

There's 10 states that need auditing. He needs to push elsewhere not steal credit after the work has been put in. Hes smart enough to understand what this looks like and his unprofessionalism is starting to make me think he has alternate motives. And what happened with the Fulton County, Georgia ballot audit he was approved to do? On the ballots? State Farm Arena? If he was successful anywhere I might be pulling for him but he's not leading any movements just podcasting since the Fulton county hearing from what I know and I got him on follow on Telegram.

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BigPapaCheeto 1 point ago +1 / -0

As far as the Georgia audit, he was approved to do it and then they said no after saying yes and that was it. Pretty much like every other state that had obvious fraud, they just say no and everyone says OK, well we tried, let's look toward 2022. Or they give you the "audit .00001% of the ballots that we choose and since you will find nothing there is no voter fraud.