I was on the "temp mod" team until I decided to leave just a few weeks ago. First of all, I'm not positive that more than 5 old mods are even active or even real. I should have been able to tell which ones are alts or just inactive and I have no clue.. they kept us in a seperate chat room with a handful of the old mods I do know are active and make mod actions. Never spoke to the others once never saw them make mod actions. Something weird is going on. After receiving over 200k in crypto donations which I was against, I was told they were going to make a post explaining what happened and what was going to happen. (One person alone donated 200k in ethereum or whatever) well, they pretty much stopped talking in the chatroom, doggos didn't say anything for a month, and when I asked what happened with those donations I got radio silence. I left the chat room a day later and left the mod team.
Nothing, he's 100 percent still around and working hard on .win. he was limited with moderation and left the "mod" aspect to focus on control and full development of the entire site. There's no change to anything at all. He's still a huge part of .win and always will be, but his focus is not going to be on comment removal, deportation, or stickies.
I'd like to participate in a discussion with the mod team about how to best facilitate security, free speech, good moderation, privacy, etc for .win users.
I'm a security and systems nerd. I suspect there are more here like me.
I'm not trying to insinuate that you guys aren't doing a good job, but I would like to understand your strategy, and might have some useful suggestions.
Does anyone remember that someone (I think it was doggos) said in a sticky right before the domain change, that *if *something happens on this site that causes us all to have to re input our user name and password all over again, that such would have indicated that something bad has happened and not to come back? Shortly thereafter the domain change took place. I was trepidations about coming on here or posting after that. It was seeing familiar mods names in posts which gave me enough confidence to come back.
He said specifically, if you have to re-input the login and it accepts a bad password.
If the site changes hands, they likely won't have access to the original account data, so the way they would handle that is by accepting whatever your initial login is, assuming you provided the right password.
So the test is to enter the wrong password first and make sure it rejects it.
This did not happen at the domain switch, and incorrect passwords were rejected, which means the user account data was intact, which means unless "they" raided and obtained the servers that had all that data, the site has not been compromised.
Can you vouch for the uninterrupted physical and cyber security of the servers?
I realize that's asking a lot. I'm not trying to be an asshole, but I'm a bit paranoid after living through multiple platforms that promised free speech and respect for user privacy and then betrayed those principles in horrific ways.
At the time they had a reasonable explanation as to what happened (as far as I understood it). But if it really was infiltrated, that's probably how it would go down.. Not something obvious
I'm OK with them getting some pay. There is a great site here, and they should be compensated. There are no ads, no nothing. It's fantastic. I do want these people to get paid.
BUT, their payments cannot and must not compromise their decisions for this site. That is, "we'll pay you 200,000, but you must make sure any post containing 'pelosi' does not show up on the the main page" or whatever....
Always. That's how you separate the good guys from the bad guys. I don't trust anyone who will sell out for money, and sure as hell don't ask me to piss on you if you are on fire. I'd rather just watch you burn.
The original canary was compromised last summer and patriots.win was not one of the backup domains the OG mods had given us. I’m skeptical about what’s going on here as well.
Would they need to "take over" the site to collect everyone's data? Seems like from what we know of surveillance capabilities, taking over the site might not even be necessary. I mean does that make sense?
Taking over the moderation of this site by the deep state would be to not moderate violent posts wanting to bring weapons to Washington so they could encourage violence, collecting personal information on the posters and mining our data.
I'm suspicious because we haven't had a legit response from the moderators. Doggos and Shadowman were the main players here. No one is apparently gone.
Pretty sure this place is now, if not always has been, a honeypot. I still visit because I know that I'm accountable for everything I say here, but if you're expecting to remain private on this website I would very strongly reconsider.
EXACTLY THIS. Know that everything you say is being scrutinized and saved...doesn't matter where you are on the innerwebs. Luckily, I don't give a flying fuck.
Yeah people think if they use a VPN they're safe. Totally, absolutely, utterly incorrect. If the government wants to find out who you are bad enough, they have all the tools and the power to do so. The key is to make it not worth their time-- because that's all it is. It's a matter of time and money to them.
All doggo's go to heaven, I just hope he's fine. Guess that story with the other OG'S from donald.win is spilling over and getting more complicated so he simply wanted to take some time off to handle that shit? idk.. throwing ideas
But how does one keep the mind open to possibilities outside the corporate media narrative without at least considering what the nutters have to say?
Alex Jones is just as off-the-deep-end as Q if you take Facebook and Twitter at their word...
I always knew Q was probably insane, but how can you tell for certain when the real crimes of the oligarchy are competing in the insanity Olympics?
Neal Stephenson (sp?) wrote about this in "Dodge in Hell". Spin up an automated disinformation machine of sufficient sophistication and output, and people can no longer discern the veracity of information they receive. Rather prophetic, actually.
If the side that probably owns at least 300 million of the privately owned firearms in this country was told to start an insurrection by their main political figure, you would know it.
Yeah, anyone got a heads up? Pedes are wanting to know what's up with our OG Doggos
I was on the "temp mod" team until I decided to leave just a few weeks ago. First of all, I'm not positive that more than 5 old mods are even active or even real. I should have been able to tell which ones are alts or just inactive and I have no clue.. they kept us in a seperate chat room with a handful of the old mods I do know are active and make mod actions. Never spoke to the others once never saw them make mod actions. Something weird is going on. After receiving over 200k in crypto donations which I was against, I was told they were going to make a post explaining what happened and what was going to happen. (One person alone donated 200k in ethereum or whatever) well, they pretty much stopped talking in the chatroom, doggos didn't say anything for a month, and when I asked what happened with those donations I got radio silence. I left the chat room a day later and left the mod team.
200k donation? Wtf if true.
Just checked some of the mod post history. Very weird amount of silence. Maybe this place has been a honeypot since the domain changed
As stated on gab, whole internet is a fucking honeypot. Shitpost or not, it’s up to you
It's not, we're really just here to maga
What happened to Doggos?
Nothing, he's 100 percent still around and working hard on .win. he was limited with moderation and left the "mod" aspect to focus on control and full development of the entire site. There's no change to anything at all. He's still a huge part of .win and always will be, but his focus is not going to be on comment removal, deportation, or stickies.
Good to hear. Thanks for clarifying.
I'd like to participate in a discussion with the mod team about how to best facilitate security, free speech, good moderation, privacy, etc for .win users.
I'm a security and systems nerd. I suspect there are more here like me.
I'm not trying to insinuate that you guys aren't doing a good job, but I would like to understand your strategy, and might have some useful suggestions.
That’s what I said. Shitpost :D
Lol I love though that the mod who replied to my post about honeypots is fbi. ;)
Fbi best mod!
But... doggos!
This possibility has been on my mind since the day it changed.
Does anyone remember that someone (I think it was doggos) said in a sticky right before the domain change, that *if *something happens on this site that causes us all to have to re input our user name and password all over again, that such would have indicated that something bad has happened and not to come back? Shortly thereafter the domain change took place. I was trepidations about coming on here or posting after that. It was seeing familiar mods names in posts which gave me enough confidence to come back.
Have we been 🍯potted?
He said specifically, if you have to re-input the login and it accepts a bad password. If the site changes hands, they likely won't have access to the original account data, so the way they would handle that is by accepting whatever your initial login is, assuming you provided the right password.
So the test is to enter the wrong password first and make sure it rejects it.
This did not happen at the domain switch, and incorrect passwords were rejected, which means the user account data was intact, which means unless "they" raided and obtained the servers that had all that data, the site has not been compromised.
"Unless...'
We weren't, we still have control.
Hahaha...
Your username is very reassuring.
But seriously, thanks for responding.
How long have you been a mod?
Can you vouch for the uninterrupted physical and cyber security of the servers?
I realize that's asking a lot. I'm not trying to be an asshole, but I'm a bit paranoid after living through multiple platforms that promised free speech and respect for user privacy and then betrayed those principles in horrific ways.
Thanks for the clarification fren
At the time they had a reasonable explanation as to what happened (as far as I understood it). But if it really was infiltrated, that's probably how it would go down.. Not something obvious
Login still worked, it is/was the same back end.
Fuck. It's always about the money.
I'm OK with them getting some pay. There is a great site here, and they should be compensated. There are no ads, no nothing. It's fantastic. I do want these people to get paid.
BUT, their payments cannot and must not compromise their decisions for this site. That is, "we'll pay you 200,000, but you must make sure any post containing 'pelosi' does not show up on the the main page" or whatever....
Get paid... but don't get faggy.
This right here is a basic tenant of interneting. Get paid, but don’t get faggy
Pede wisdom for the history books
Don't get faggy is key here. We've got something great going for once and got to keep it going/improving.
That's always been the plan
Always. That's how you separate the good guys from the bad guys. I don't trust anyone who will sell out for money, and sure as hell don't ask me to piss on you if you are on fire. I'd rather just watch you burn.
Wtf just checked the mod team and Doggos is gone??
We may be a fed honeypot.
I can only hope not
Would be a shame to lose all of this.
u/Doggos didn't kill himself!
Doggos was a woman I think?
You just assume Doggos' Gender?? BIGOT!!!
Well I used “was” so I’m giving xir an opportunity to confirm or deny gender reassignment? Maybe? Idk fuck you lol
Ah Good. We both know everyone who's been a Mod on Reddit is a Raging Bisexual Xir.
Long live Doggos
I didn't believe this post given he was the main driver of this site.
Given all of the drama from Reddit to where we are now, the mods need to give us a heads-up on what happened.
Did the Deep State take this over, intending to collect data on everyone? It's a legit question.
The original canary was compromised last summer and patriots.win was not one of the backup domains the OG mods had given us. I’m skeptical about what’s going on here as well.
Totally agree. We need to hear a what the remaining mods have to say.
Are any of the original backup domains operational?
Wait? The canary was comprised?
It would explain why they havent made a patriots2.win or regional boards
Would they need to "take over" the site to collect everyone's data? Seems like from what we know of surveillance capabilities, taking over the site might not even be necessary. I mean does that make sense?
Taking over the moderation of this site by the deep state would be to not moderate violent posts wanting to bring weapons to Washington so they could encourage violence, collecting personal information on the posters and mining our data.
I'm suspicious because we haven't had a legit response from the moderators. Doggos and Shadowman were the main players here. No one is apparently gone.
That was stated explicitly in posts about how to tell if the site has been compromised:
Mods will stop removing and start encouraging violent content.
I've also noticed a new level of racial aggressiveness since the changeover.
Fuck.
They aren't as competent as you may think
ok yeah that makes sense
Pretty sure this place is now, if not always has been, a honeypot. I still visit because I know that I'm accountable for everything I say here, but if you're expecting to remain private on this website I would very strongly reconsider.
EXACTLY THIS. Know that everything you say is being scrutinized and saved...doesn't matter where you are on the innerwebs. Luckily, I don't give a flying fuck.
Yeah people think if they use a VPN they're safe. Totally, absolutely, utterly incorrect. If the government wants to find out who you are bad enough, they have all the tools and the power to do so. The key is to make it not worth their time-- because that's all it is. It's a matter of time and money to them.
Is that not true with any word said ever in history?
We used to be on REDDIT
It's about sending a message
Not about being cowardly paranoid freaks about a deepstate that couldn't even front a political candidate or keep their narratives straight.
You guys need to take a deep breath and learn to trust God
GOD WATCHES AND RECORDS EVERY SINGLE FUCKING THING YOU EVER DID AND CAN THROW YOUR SOUL IN HELL.
Fear him. Keep his laws.
The fbi will be rendered nothing. They are mafia. Don't let gestapo control your life.
Always has been. During the impeachment trial the Dems read out several posts that I had seen word for word from this site.
I'm not sure I follow the logic of getting information from a public post equating to ownership of the site.
I have quoted tweets, but do not have backdoor access to twitter.
Where should we go?
Gab
Your identify and data are super duper safe on gab
/pol/ /s
Can we reply here you can actually look in my history and see other responses
Weird.
WTF
We want answers!
We need a mod response to this. Unacceptable and makes me weary to further use the site until I hear from them.
Agreed. I messaged them we’ll see.
https://patriots.win/p/12hkd4PH5b/what-happened-to-udoggos-mods-we/
Got it, thank you.
His last post was a few days ago
He might have gotten DSed
He is the singular reason P.W exists today.... I love that salty savage. A boss OG.
I have appreciated his voice.
This certainly makes me feel confident and safe using this website.
Did the mod team go full Pence on this great Neanderthal community???
It seems mods have answered
https://patriots.win/p/12hkd4PH5b/what-happened-to-udoggos-mods-we/
Something fishy is going on. Even if the mods give us some kind of explanation, I'm not sure I can trust that.
Lots of new names on the mod team also.
All doggo's go to heaven, I just hope he's fine. Guess that story with the other OG'S from donald.win is spilling over and getting more complicated so he simply wanted to take some time off to handle that shit? idk.. throwing ideas
Holy shit you're right. Something is up again...
NuclearPepe is gone too
I have noticed no more Q-tard posts. Hopefully greatawakening now will be nuked. Q-tards don't care about Trump. They just like to live in fantasyland
I remember well you got a lot of fire for calling out Qtards after the election. But ultimately you were right.
Also do not nuke greatawakening.win, they would just come here. Let them have fun over there not annoying the users here.
Its truly amazing how hey still manage to create conspiracies out of nothing, literally..
I'm still waiting for JFK Jr to walk onto the stage with Elderly Elvis in hand.
Agree they fully jumped the shark long ago...
But how does one keep the mind open to possibilities outside the corporate media narrative without at least considering what the nutters have to say?
Alex Jones is just as off-the-deep-end as Q if you take Facebook and Twitter at their word...
I always knew Q was probably insane, but how can you tell for certain when the real crimes of the oligarchy are competing in the insanity Olympics?
Neal Stephenson (sp?) wrote about this in "Dodge in Hell". Spin up an automated disinformation machine of sufficient sophistication and output, and people can no longer discern the veracity of information they receive. Rather prophetic, actually.
For all the shit liberals give Q, Trusting The Plan is the reason that...other...things didn't happen on 1/6 or earlier.
If Trump had actually incited an insurrection, things might be different
If the side that probably owns at least 300 million of the privately owned firearms in this country was told to start an insurrection by their main political figure, you would know it.
Yep, 8d chess and "trust the plan" is also a reason why we failed. Flynn never trusted the plan, he created one.
Nuking subs already? Just go back to Reddit fag
Check out the totally relevant conversation over here 🙄
qtards got to go...been battling them all week here