I love the leftists who keep blaming the Republicans on the failure of buying to get anything through Congress when they have majorities in both houses. I tried point to that out to one of them so the natural response Was to call me a racist.
Technically on things that are not budget reconciliation, Republicans are blocking it (which is a good thing btw). You need 60 votes to pass any legislation that isn't a budget reconciliation bill.
honestly if I was a US senator I would filibuster every bill brought for a vote. A non-functioning government is the best thing we could ask for at this point.
No, they would still find a way to blame Trump. Probably say that things he supposedly failed to do during the pandemic led to a chain reaction that we are finally seeing the result of conveniently after Biden has already been in power for a few months.
As long as the effects don't hit us all at once, they're okay with it. It's like hot potato with a grenade. As long as they aren't there when it happens, it's good for them.
I cannot fathom how anyone thought it was a good idea to implement such a massive wage increase before businesses can recoup their losses from last year. Truly, scary thinking. Or lack thereof.
$15 minimum wage benefits China directly. What corporations are pushing for a nationwide minimum wage? Corporations like Wal*Mart. Nothing is stopping them from paying their workers $15, why do they need a law? Because if it's the law, small retailers will go broke, close up shop & big corporations that sell cheap shit made in China (that goes for you, too Amazon) will attain total retail hegemony.
In Seattle it's $15.00 an hour; however, if you work for a company that employs [x] amount of people, it goes up to $16.69. My son just took an entry level job at a company and his starting wage is $15 an hour, but until benefits kick in, he is being paid $16.69 an hour plus another dollar an hour for "hazard" pay so for the next month anyway, he's making $17.69 an hour.
And also what someone would be willing to work for. The least qualified and least employable people are the first to be fired when the minimum wage goes up. And many of them will have to go on welfare for the rest of their lives.
Especially if you're a man, if you don't have a job, you're a nobody.
Yep. Women, especially attractive women have the option to just find a man and latch on, their only job to act like they give a fuck about the guy and maybe spread their legs once in a while.
I guess good looking gay guys could try that too, but I'm sure that's few and far between in society, even today!
They can work somewhere else, until they can't. I'm not saying the minimum wage is a good idea, but hand-waving that "they can just work somewhere else" is ignoring why minimum wage was created in the first place. It was a knee-jerk reaction to a populace being absolutely fucking raped over in labor value.
I'm conservative to the core, I don't like the idea of minimum wage, but doing away with it completely without an alternative to stop the abuse is just returning to a time when the American worker was the equivalent of a slave. If I had my way, I would eliminate the minimum wage and pass a new law that says to pay people what they are worth and stop being a fucking greedy piece of shit, but alas.
There weren't options like there are today, and people can easily pick up and move without a wagon train. If they are too weak to move on from a bad job, they deserve it.
Winners and losers exist for a reason, and it's not because life is fair.
So you have job A, B, and C. Right now, federal minimum wage mandates $7.25 an hour.
So you work at A.
Federal minimum wage is abolished with no other safety net.
Employer A says, well, we're going to lower wages to $4 an hour.
You say "That's bulllshitttt!!" and go to job B, which is still paying $7.25 an hour. Job B heard what job A did, and they set the pay to $4.01 an hour.
Job C hears about this and decides they are clever, so they set their wage to $4.25 an hour.
All prices are the same as they always have been.
Everyone wants to work at Company C because they pay the highest in the field, but it's still fucking garbage.
You finally get on at Company C making 25 cents more an hour than everyone else in your field. You have the nicest cardboard box on the sidewalk, and since you can't afford a car, you get lots of sunshine and exercise.
Prices and the economy will eventually adjust to the new economic conditions, but there will be a LOT of fucking misery in the meantime. The first place businesses try to cut costs is labor because labor is the most expensive aspect of doing business, but they will do so irresponsibly and selfishly and as quickly as possible to improve their bottom line for the impending recession/depression.
We should not increase minimum wage, but we should not immediately abolish it. Sudden change of a magnitude that great would be very destructive. We could probably wean ourselves off of it a quarter at a time over the next couple of decades, but it can't go away at once. Nor can it double, which these idiot Democrats can't get through their fucking skulls.
Agree. States, or preferably even counties, should set min wage. It is ridiculous to compare a city to rural areas, or two states which have dramatically different costs of living.
Keep in mind, Biden and the democrats never wanted this. AOC and the squad did, but not old school democrats. Old schoolers rub elbows with and are friends of those whose pockets would be affected by this. No, Biden just dangles this as a political tool and nothing more.
Minimum wage debate is what they go to when they want to distract. Good for a news spot, debate about small changes rather than just set it to inflation rate.
yep now they can riot in 2022 great same old issues new protestors you have to learn from ur mistakes...let it pass when employment hits 20 percent say ots what yu wanted now what??? quit saving stupid people
Muh "Republicans in congress blocked us" in 3...2...1
I love the leftists who keep blaming the Republicans on the failure of buying to get anything through Congress when they have majorities in both houses. I tried point to that out to one of them so the natural response Was to call me a racist.
Technically on things that are not budget reconciliation, Republicans are blocking it (which is a good thing btw). You need 60 votes to pass any legislation that isn't a budget reconciliation bill.
“They STONEWALLED us”
Democrats blocked stimulus for months and the left blamed Republicans. Democrats got all their goodies passed and they got praised for it.
honestly if I was a US senator I would filibuster every bill brought for a vote. A non-functioning government is the best thing we could ask for at this point.
They know this would tank the economy and Joe would rightly get the blame.
This would completely destroy any small business still surviving after the plandemic
No, they would still find a way to blame Trump. Probably say that things he supposedly failed to do during the pandemic led to a chain reaction that we are finally seeing the result of conveniently after Biden has already been in power for a few months.
This. They will find a way to blame Trump.
But ok with all the 100s of billion sent to other countries....nice
As long as the effects don't hit us all at once, they're okay with it. It's like hot potato with a grenade. As long as they aren't there when it happens, it's good for them.
I cannot fathom how anyone thought it was a good idea to implement such a massive wage increase before businesses can recoup their losses from last year. Truly, scary thinking. Or lack thereof.
You are under the impression they want employed people and businesses around
How else would they generate tax revenue?
$15 minimum wage benefits China directly. What corporations are pushing for a nationwide minimum wage? Corporations like Wal*Mart. Nothing is stopping them from paying their workers $15, why do they need a law? Because if it's the law, small retailers will go broke, close up shop & big corporations that sell cheap shit made in China (that goes for you, too Amazon) will attain total retail hegemony.
This is good news.
What's the current federal minimum wage
In Seattle it's $15.00 an hour; however, if you work for a company that employs [x] amount of people, it goes up to $16.69. My son just took an entry level job at a company and his starting wage is $15 an hour, but until benefits kick in, he is being paid $16.69 an hour plus another dollar an hour for "hazard" pay so for the next month anyway, he's making $17.69 an hour.
Damn. Time to move to Seattle. lol no
I make better than that in "flyover" country, and it goes at least twice as far than in Cuckattle.
If you don't mind my asking, what do you do for a living? Generally speaking of course
I'm a 911 operator. I'm also in college pursuing a degree to maybe do even better.
Hey, that's not an easy profession. Stay strong, I know it can be hard to hear some of the things.
Thank you for what you do.
why do dems want to raise federal minimum wage? to bankrupt U.S.A. from all the money that they give to illegals?
Half that much
Should be zero! Why should the government tell a business what they should pay someone?
And also what someone would be willing to work for. The least qualified and least employable people are the first to be fired when the minimum wage goes up. And many of them will have to go on welfare for the rest of their lives.
Especially if you're a man, if you don't have a job, you're a nobody.
Yep. Women, especially attractive women have the option to just find a man and latch on, their only job to act like they give a fuck about the guy and maybe spread their legs once in a while.
I guess good looking gay guys could try that too, but I'm sure that's few and far between in society, even today!
depends. unfortunately some people will abuse their power and underpay workers on purpose.
They can work somewhere else, can't they? If people are too weak to walk away from abuse, they deserve what they get.
They can work somewhere else, until they can't. I'm not saying the minimum wage is a good idea, but hand-waving that "they can just work somewhere else" is ignoring why minimum wage was created in the first place. It was a knee-jerk reaction to a populace being absolutely fucking raped over in labor value.
I'm conservative to the core, I don't like the idea of minimum wage, but doing away with it completely without an alternative to stop the abuse is just returning to a time when the American worker was the equivalent of a slave. If I had my way, I would eliminate the minimum wage and pass a new law that says to pay people what they are worth and stop being a fucking greedy piece of shit, but alas.
There weren't options like there are today, and people can easily pick up and move without a wagon train. If they are too weak to move on from a bad job, they deserve it.
Winners and losers exist for a reason, and it's not because life is fair.
So you have job A, B, and C. Right now, federal minimum wage mandates $7.25 an hour.
So you work at A.
Federal minimum wage is abolished with no other safety net.
Employer A says, well, we're going to lower wages to $4 an hour.
You say "That's bulllshitttt!!" and go to job B, which is still paying $7.25 an hour. Job B heard what job A did, and they set the pay to $4.01 an hour.
Job C hears about this and decides they are clever, so they set their wage to $4.25 an hour.
All prices are the same as they always have been.
Everyone wants to work at Company C because they pay the highest in the field, but it's still fucking garbage.
You finally get on at Company C making 25 cents more an hour than everyone else in your field. You have the nicest cardboard box on the sidewalk, and since you can't afford a car, you get lots of sunshine and exercise.
Prices and the economy will eventually adjust to the new economic conditions, but there will be a LOT of fucking misery in the meantime. The first place businesses try to cut costs is labor because labor is the most expensive aspect of doing business, but they will do so irresponsibly and selfishly and as quickly as possible to improve their bottom line for the impending recession/depression.
We should not increase minimum wage, but we should not immediately abolish it. Sudden change of a magnitude that great would be very destructive. We could probably wean ourselves off of it a quarter at a time over the next couple of decades, but it can't go away at once. Nor can it double, which these idiot Democrats can't get through their fucking skulls.
7.25/h. Waiter/waitress is more complicated - 2.13 in some states and depend on tips for the remainder of the wage.
The Democrats aren’t as unified or far left as we thought. There are moderates voting independently of their party line. Very patriotic and brave.
If this trend keeps up, I'll gladly admit they aren't as nuts as I thought
Not when it came to POTUS. Fuck we’d occasionally get Manchin.
fuck the commies
Let the states set it. Fuck off feds
Agree. States, or preferably even counties, should set min wage. It is ridiculous to compare a city to rural areas, or two states which have dramatically different costs of living.
KEK this is hilarious.
Keep in mind, Biden and the democrats never wanted this. AOC and the squad did, but not old school democrats. Old schoolers rub elbows with and are friends of those whose pockets would be affected by this. No, Biden just dangles this as a political tool and nothing more.
Minimum wage debate is what they go to when they want to distract. Good for a news spot, debate about small changes rather than just set it to inflation rate.
We've been clobbered over the head so much that we're now celebrating a close vote that should have been 100 - 0.
yep now they can riot in 2022 great same old issues new protestors you have to learn from ur mistakes...let it pass when employment hits 20 percent say ots what yu wanted now what??? quit saving stupid people
So 58 voted against or 58 voted for and they didn't get to 60?
rise of blue dog democrats!
Until commie pelosi makes them lick the boot