He certainly isn't as obstinate as his father was...
But I'm not ready to put Rand in the same category with Mitch just yet.
Not every politician who disappoints me is literally Hitler. I have more independent thought than that.
No one will ever be able to assume my support because of my skin color, gender, hair style, favorite submachinegun, or any other identity politics frivolity.
Likewise, I will not write off people who appear to be genuinely well intentioned simply because they failed to do exactly what I want in every instance.
I have watched Rand make very courageous stands on unpopular points that no one else would defend. He has earned my respect for that.
I'm not ready to follow him blindly, but he's better than about 98% of the DC politicians of my lifetime.
I've sort of come to realize that up at that high level of government is not where fraud should be dealt with. The fraud was administered on the level of precincts, not at the level of the federal government. At that high level, anything one might try gets caught up in bureacracy, and just generates noise.
People here were turning to the federal government, the most unreliable part of the State, hoping that our interests would be represented. If the fraud were to have been fixed, there were 0 instances that it would be fixed at the federal level. 'Stop the Steal' was dead when the judges ruled 'no standing'. For people like Rand Paul to try and fix fraud would mean tearing the already flimsy federal government apart.
So, you believe Rand chose to vote to certify, not because he believed there was no fraud, but because there was no good outcome to voting otherwise, and it could potentially make the situation worse.
Without knowing everything he would have known in those circumstances, it becomes very difficult to judge whether I think he did the right thing there. A flaming middle finger to the establishment would have been nice, but not at any cost.
Not every politician who disappoints me is literally Hitler.
While this is true, with no voting integrity, we might as well have Idi Amin, Saddam Hussein, Adolf Hitler or Stalin running for office.
We have zero representation of the voters in the oval office. What we have is a deep state plant. Rand might as well be smoking Meth with Hunter Biden if he doesn't care about election integrity. Everything will fall to the wayside, if that isn't restored. Everything
PP can lose every cent of government funding and still exist. They're not majority funded by the taxpayers. They'd complain, but find a way to make up the difference.
They sure love mass murdering defenseless babies, don't they? But they also love rewarding rapists, child sex-traffickers, pedophiles, and druglords, and murderers by letting them in the country, releasing from prison, giving them money, jobs, benefits, so they can vote democrat. How cool.
I don't care what anybody says. This is good news. There's a loud-mouthed annoying-ass purple-haired bitch I know who is going to hear about this in a very rude and confrontational way.
Why the fuck was an organization that has nothing to do with tourism, dining, shopping, or outdoor activities prevented by the lockdowns set to receive this money?
Don't know exactly how to or even if I want to say anything good about Rand after the "erection" dysfunction. What he just did does not exonerate him from doing NOTHING during the certification, however what he just did was good.
The libertarian principals his father espoused was that individual rights trump states rights, and he was making it all a states rights vs. federal government rights thing. Individual rights trump all of them, and every disenfranchanchised voter had their rights totally trampled on without a second look. Totally just dismissed the rights of the individuals during the debating on the issue. WTH?
He basically said that voting to "overturn" state certified results would harm states rights, blah blah. It sounds great if the election was legit. But since it wasn't Rand can fuck right off.
Remember that Planned Parenthood is a HUGE donor to the Demtard party. So when they or teacher unions get millions of dollars, guess where it generally goes? This is called money laundering.
I'm surprised he was able to do that. I would think with all those Dems plus Collins and Murkowski, PP funding would've won. Maybe it was fear of the filibuster.
Yeah, I read the article now. He moved to ask the parliamentarian if allowing planned parenthood to get the money violated the Byrd rule, democrats then withdrew the provision so that the parliamentarian could not rule on it (i.e. so this would not set precedent).
So that’s what?... 1 billion shaved off... still 1.8 Trillion wasteful spending to globalist agenda. At least planned parenthood is a national business... not that I care for it. Our system sucks.
Planned Parenthood has been funding transgender transition surgeries (with taxpayer money), because that is vital to the continuation of parenthood or... something
This is just my opinion but let all the lefty's abort as many children as they want. We all know they won't raise them correctly. Zero sum game nowadays.
People here need to wake up. What Rand Paul just did may save thousands of lives from being snuffed out. As the Ron Paul meme says, "it didn't have to be this way"
Theres some serious rand paul campaigning on this site. So many sus rand posts. Hes a grifter and NOTHING will ever undo the damage he caused to this country.
Now get them to defund plannedparenthood completely. No federal or state money should be going to them.
and npr, and pbs, and the 100000 other fucked things we fund.
NPR and PBS are propaganda wings of the Democratic Party.
If the Constitution doesn’t expressly authorize and office, shut it down.
The money will just be funneled to Planned Baby Murders through the back door.
Not when they donate and phone bank for democrats.
And kill and dismember babies.
For a profit.
Can’t we just detonate them all or make the buildings ALL accidentally crumble with a HUGE Dozer
The Story Of Marvin Heemeyer's Revenge And His Killdozer
Yaaayyyy!!!
most of planned parenthoods money gets laundered right back to the democrats
I greatly appreciate this. If only he fought as hard against deep state fraud.
Controlled opposition. Used to think highly of the man. Ron must be disappointed. He's nothing like him.
He certainly isn't as obstinate as his father was...
But I'm not ready to put Rand in the same category with Mitch just yet.
Not every politician who disappoints me is literally Hitler. I have more independent thought than that.
No one will ever be able to assume my support because of my skin color, gender, hair style, favorite submachinegun, or any other identity politics frivolity.
Likewise, I will not write off people who appear to be genuinely well intentioned simply because they failed to do exactly what I want in every instance.
I have watched Rand make very courageous stands on unpopular points that no one else would defend. He has earned my respect for that.
I'm not ready to follow him blindly, but he's better than about 98% of the DC politicians of my lifetime.
Finally some critical thinking
He alone named He That Cannot Be Named. And he did it on the Senate floor. Earned my respect with that.
He's demonstrated brass knockers on more than one occasion...
Which is part of why his certification vote is so confusing. I'd like to hear his side of that story in a private setting...
I've sort of come to realize that up at that high level of government is not where fraud should be dealt with. The fraud was administered on the level of precincts, not at the level of the federal government. At that high level, anything one might try gets caught up in bureacracy, and just generates noise.
People here were turning to the federal government, the most unreliable part of the State, hoping that our interests would be represented. If the fraud were to have been fixed, there were 0 instances that it would be fixed at the federal level. 'Stop the Steal' was dead when the judges ruled 'no standing'. For people like Rand Paul to try and fix fraud would mean tearing the already flimsy federal government apart.
They swore to uphold the constitution. Then the didn't uphold the constitution. That's all I need to know.
And what would it have cost Rand to side with Trump on election fraud? Nothing at all.
Sure, you can argue it would accomplish nothing to side with Trump but nonetheless, it would have been the right thing to do
That is a well reasoned analysis.
So, you believe Rand chose to vote to certify, not because he believed there was no fraud, but because there was no good outcome to voting otherwise, and it could potentially make the situation worse.
Without knowing everything he would have known in those circumstances, it becomes very difficult to judge whether I think he did the right thing there. A flaming middle finger to the establishment would have been nice, but not at any cost.
Who's that? Jinping?
While this is true, with no voting integrity, we might as well have Idi Amin, Saddam Hussein, Adolf Hitler or Stalin running for office.
We have zero representation of the voters in the oval office. What we have is a deep state plant. Rand might as well be smoking Meth with Hunter Biden if he doesn't care about election integrity. Everything will fall to the wayside, if that isn't restored. Everything
No one else in DC?
I hope you realize how low that bar is
I really like Rand. He's easily top 5 in the Senate as far as principled and honest politicians go (but it's obviously a short list).
Stfu. There is a spectrum of allies. Just because a Rand Paul is only a 8/10 doesnt mean hes a 0/10.
He fcked Ron over..... There's a reason why he's in and Ron is out.
Maybe not controlled opposition but anyone who did not support Trumps election fraud claims should receive zero support from us
I really like Rand. I think he's one of the best out there.
Rand was OK with the publicly funded abortion of voting integrity.
So now the bill is 94% pork?
Wut?? That's absurd. It's 93% pork, at most!
Now he'll happily vote yea.
Forgot about that. I retract the good thing I said about him.
Yup screw him. I don't care what he does. He directly contributed to the destruction of America.
Covid bill will be passed. planned parenthood will still exist. This is not a victory.
PP can lose every cent of government funding and still exist. They're not majority funded by the taxpayers. They'd complain, but find a way to make up the difference.
Baby parts are worth a lot of money
They are over a 3rd funded by taxpayers. It happens to just about match the revenue charged for abortions. Most of it comes via state programs.
You have an impossible standard that will never happen (unfortunately)
You think that stops leftists from pushing their agenda? They pull out all the stops. Unless we do the same we will be defeated.
Ok now let's get rid of the actual pork which is foreign aid
He's still an asshole.
Yup. Still certified the stolen election. Nothing will redeem him in my eyes.
They sure love mass murdering defenseless babies, don't they? But they also love rewarding rapists, child sex-traffickers, pedophiles, and druglords, and murderers by letting them in the country, releasing from prison, giving them money, jobs, benefits, so they can vote democrat. How cool.
They're just setting things up to reduce their own sentences when they get caught. As usual.
What sentences? Dems always walk away free.
THATS FUCKING MONEY LAUNDERING
Democrats are pure cancer. That is all.
This is why you don't throw away good politicians because they don't do everything you want.
I don't care what anybody says. This is good news. There's a loud-mouthed annoying-ass purple-haired bitch I know who is going to hear about this in a very rude and confrontational way.
Nah that's too much work for them.they just live on welfare, I stopped complaining about abortion when I figured out who is getting them
Literally saving lives. Good work, dr.
Thank you for Standing up for what is right Senator Paul
Rand ain't perfect, but he's a helluva better than most of them.
Now can he force them to roll back the rest of it?
Good work Rand
👍👍👍👍
Abortion is literally murder
Now get them to remove the $1.9 trillion remaining balance.
Why the fuck was an organization that has nothing to do with tourism, dining, shopping, or outdoor activities prevented by the lockdowns set to receive this money?
Ever since the mob messed with him and his wife he’s been a thorn in their Ass!!!
Since before!
Is why!!
I would rather the money stay in America. What a stupid situation.
Legend
Well, the more they pick at that Covid bill and get their changes accepted, the more likely they will vote to pass it.
Why do you think they put all that shit in there in the first place.
Rand can be the man
Don't know exactly how to or even if I want to say anything good about Rand after the "erection" dysfunction. What he just did does not exonerate him from doing NOTHING during the certification, however what he just did was good.
Agree his vote to certify was hard to take.
In particular because I still consider him to be a genuine, well intentioned man.
I'm certain he had considerations I'm not aware of, and he's been better than almost every other senator...
Still, I'd like to hear him explain it.
The libertarian principals his father espoused was that individual rights trump states rights, and he was making it all a states rights vs. federal government rights thing. Individual rights trump all of them, and every disenfranchanchised voter had their rights totally trampled on without a second look. Totally just dismissed the rights of the individuals during the debating on the issue. WTH?
He did explain his reasons on the 6th, check his twitter from then.
https://twitter.com/RandPaul/status/1346936083351793665
He basically said that voting to "overturn" state certified results would harm states rights, blah blah. It sounds great if the election was legit. But since it wasn't Rand can fuck right off.
This is how they suck you back in.
Little scraps for the plebs while the keep you a slave.
This guy! 👍
Now replace the Planned Parenthood pork with a Federal requirement of Voter ID for all voters for all federal office elections.
Remember that Planned Parenthood is a HUGE donor to the Demtard party. So when they or teacher unions get millions of dollars, guess where it generally goes? This is called money laundering.
I'm surprised he was able to do that. I would think with all those Dems plus Collins and Murkowski, PP funding would've won. Maybe it was fear of the filibuster.
Rand can be a filibustering son of a bitch.
I've seen him do it.
Yeah, I read the article now. He moved to ask the parliamentarian if allowing planned parenthood to get the money violated the Byrd rule, democrats then withdrew the provision so that the parliamentarian could not rule on it (i.e. so this would not set precedent).
You must become what your enemy fears.
Well done, Rand.
Thanks for nothing, Rand Paul.
So that’s what?... 1 billion shaved off... still 1.8 Trillion wasteful spending to globalist agenda. At least planned parenthood is a national business... not that I care for it. Our system sucks.
Now it's only 1.799 trillion.
WHAT THAT'S NOT GOOD ENOUGH FOR YOU? HOW DARE YOU.
Termination Deduction
They wanna take your funds right from your paycheck.
MUH ABORTION again...?
Do you all forget the SC already?????
Planned Parenthood has been funding transgender transition surgeries (with taxpayer money), because that is vital to the continuation of parenthood or... something
God Bless him!
Rand Paul is still a cuck for certifying the voter fraud. Remember.
In exchange for what? His vote?
You're still a cuck, Rand.
This is just my opinion but let all the lefty's abort as many children as they want. We all know they won't raise them correctly. Zero sum game nowadays.
By that logic, and the stupidity of your post, I've decided your mom raised you wrong.
Hold still, this won't take a second.
People here need to wake up. What Rand Paul just did may save thousands of lives from being snuffed out. As the Ron Paul meme says, "it didn't have to be this way"
Rand paul voted to certify. I disregard these theatrics.
He is a faggot.
Why does everyone still shill for this punk? He certified the fraud. He’s a sheep in wolf’s clothing.
Theres some serious rand paul campaigning on this site. So many sus rand posts. Hes a grifter and NOTHING will ever undo the damage he caused to this country.
There's always the same few people constantly posted here. Did we need a post of Trump Jr holding a Dr Seuss book?
yeah wow, cool... except one thing... fuck rand paul
Fuck that shit. I want my tax dollars to be used so that liberals can murder their own offspring.
It's cute that you think they won't also go after yours.
It's cute that you think they haven't already.