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Tr0mp -2 points ago +1 / -3

Because back then the average lifespan was like 45 years? 9 then would be like 17 now. And anyway, you can't judge people of the morality of their time and place. If you did, you'd have to also admit that its bad that our forefathers were slaveowners. Just saying.

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trevortheshone 1 point ago +1 / -0

as for judging morality, yes I can say mohamed was wrong and mohammed was a fucking pedophile.

This is some bullshit argument you have right here. There is no culture on the face of the earth that that promotes sex with children, other than islam.

Another shit tier argument of yours is the life expectancy fallacy. A 9 year old girl has had the exact same physical development for about what, the last 100,000 years? But somehow magically 9 year olds that mohammed fucked were women? bullshit.

Life expectancy has zero bearing on physical (and emotional development too. maybe read some piaget) development. a 9 year old vag getting plowed by 50 year old johnson is as wrong today as it was when mohammed was doing it.

Mohammed did not outlaw slavery. Alah did not outlaw slavery. Mohammed did not refuse to own slaves. Mohammed took slaves, and traded slaves. Mohammed kept slaves so he could rape them.

As for the founders of America owning slaves, all of them did not own slaves. And they didnt fuck or marry little girls like mohammed did.

And here in America, we outlawed slavery. And everywhere in the world, Islam did not outlaw slaves.

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Tr0mp 1 point ago +1 / -0

Alright lets be clear. Islam does not promote sex with children. It permits it but generally doesn't practice it except in some backwards areas like Yemen. Other religions like Judaism does in fact promote early marriages, at about age 13-14, which is when the girl has her Bat Mitzvah and is considered a woman by semitic law. It is still legal in NJ and I think NY and a few other states specifically for Jews. Age 13 was chosen for a number of reasons, most of which are not really relevant today.

As for slaves in Islam, they do still have those in the Gulf and other places. But thats not the point, the point is judging morals from 1500-3000 years ago with modern American values is invalid. I don't believe Muhammad raped slaves but I guess thats up for debate.

Again, not excusing it or saying its right... it just is. It doesn't make Islam a pedophile religion any more than slavery in our history makes America a slave nation as BLM likes to claim. Can't have it both ways.

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trevortheshone 1 point ago +1 / -0

Alright lets be clear. Islam does not promote sex with children

What was it that Allah says about mohammed, let me remember, oh right, Mohammed is the pattern of behavior for all muslims to follow...

Qur’an 33:21—Certainly you have in the Apostle of Allah an excellent exemplar for him who hopes in Allah and the latter day and remembers Allah much.

Islam promotes Mohammed who decreed the matter of marrying and sex with little girls.

Qur’an 33:36—It is not for a believer, man or woman, when Allah and His Messenger have decreed a matter, that they should have any option in their decision. And whoever disobeys Allah and His Messenger, he has indeed strayed in a plain error.

Islam promotes Mohammed who judged and decided that marrying and sex with little girls is okie-dokie.

Qur’an 4:65—But no, by your Lord, they can have no Faith, until they make you (O Muhammad) judge in all disputes between them, and find in themselves no resistance against your decisions, and accept (them) with full submission.

It doesn't make Islam a pedophile religion any more than slavery in our history makes America a slave nation

As we have seen, the perfect god allah, tells us in the perfect book, the quran, that the perfect example of a muslim is mohammed.

Therefore, IF mohammed is the perfect example for all muslism to follow, then sex with little girls is not wrong.

Unless you think that sex with little girls is wrong, in which case you would be in disagreement with allah when HE says the prophet mohammed is the perfect example of a muslim

And once again, America abolished slavery. America has made slavery illegal. If you are a muslim slave and you somehow find your way to America, you are not a slave any longer. It's been like that since the civil war, which was a long time ago.

Allah did not abolish slavery. Mohammed did not abolish slavery. Those islamic morals are still in abidance today.

In fact, didn't mohammed trade a arab slave for TWO black slaves that one time? I wonder what BLM would say about an arab being worth two black slaves.

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Tr0mp 2 points ago +2 / -0

Your argument is fundamentally flawed. The quran said to follow and struggle to be like Muhammad, but Muhammad is a human and therefore flawed. He himself admits it. In fact the reason he married the young wife is because his first wife was much older, and reflected in him his mother, which he realized was a mistake. The prophet is fallible.