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China wasn't even close to developing into a real problem for the US until the late 90s. You can also actually place a lot of the blame at GHWB, Clinton et al for not listening to the advice of the old Nixon admin guys at the fall of the Soviet Union, who recommended a version of the Marshall Plan for Russia and the other fall out states of the USSR.
Normalized relations with China was all about defeating the Soviets. It worked, clearly, even if the admins after totally dropped the ball and/or bent over willingly (Carter & Clinton for sure and to an extent, GWB).
Normalizing relations with China was all about the elites making money just as it is today.
That’s why Kissinger is a faggot because he sold his country out.
I think you're confusing motive and means with the end result. The end result was profiteering, but when isn't it? Plus, Nixon hated the elites and vice versa so he was a pawn as President and foreign policy genius I guess in all of that or he was complicit? I also don't see how not normalizing relations with China would've helped us, not to mention there was plenty of reason to keep up the Cold War as far as profits go. My point being it wasn't the normalizing relations that fucked us it was the management of the rise of China that fucked us.
I totally get the sentiments of fuck Kissinger and fuck Nixon even if I don't totally agree with that.... but not particularly on this issue. There are so many other people to point the finger at. Any sources you would recommend that explain it better?
Kissinger always kissed up to the commies. China and Russia.
These people don't think 5 years out, they plan and create for 50-150 years forward. He did his part with getting China to where it is today. Also CCP was formed in part by outsiders, non-chinese.
I think that they actually just duped the Bush 41 admin, bought off the Clintons, duped another President Bush and of course there is a ton of Chinese money behind Obama.
Not to mention wage stagnation creating a seemingly endless need for us to have cheap plastic shit in this country.
The outsourcing of the US to china was planned by kissinger and others. All the admins you mentioned were a part of it, and kissinger being a key advisor to all of them.
Do you have any source for this opinion? I'd like to know more but that's a pretty loaded statement. Kissinger was simply the leg man for Nixon's idea of normalizing relations. The other side of the argument were the neoliberal establishment, spearheaded by GHW Bush who wanted an even more globalist and interventionist approach. Which IMO likely would've resulted in another Asian proxy war in China over Taiwan.
Again, I think you and others are confusing the end result that largely occurred in the last 20 years to the diplomacy that occurred 50 years ago. One thing resulted in the other but there was no plan that I am aware of. Kissinger initially had no interest in China at all according to most accounts, it was simply Richard Nixon practicing good foreign policy (in the context of winning/ending the Cold War). You've got to at least give that credit at the bare minimum.