Amen. The RINO establishment can fuck off. I receive emails from them all the time to donate. I am like, hell no, you have done nothing but decimated our nation for not siding with GEOTUS.
People have posted guides for this before and they have been stickied. I think the problem with stickies is you have to catch a mod browsing /new at just the right magical time.
And some things just rise to the top of their own merit.
I have long had the feeling that at least one of the mods was bought too far into the "hopium" of December and January. Which I was extremely skeptical of, as there were leftists who were discussing making us addicted to it shortly before the election. I'd never heard the word before October, so I was suspecting a demoralization campaign was behind it when it became "big". And clearly the demoralization has worked on some folks.
I suspect the same of most "it's worthless, give up" posts. These don't feel natural, and always seem to increase in number whenever some sort of event turns up or even remotely good news in the continuing fight. Same with any "tree of liberty" or "1776" posts. These, once again, seem to magically increase in number at times that events are coming.
The thing is, we've seen Color Revolutions, coups, and evil takeovers before, and we know this site is infiltrated more at the "poster" level than the mod level. So we have to be careful. Wise as serpents, innocent as doves, and whatnot. It does not mean that everyone who doesn't run out shooting is a coward or has given up. It does mean that people are now viewing any sort of protest or event they didn't organize themselves with a local group with extreme skepticism, and this is exactly how it should be right now.
Anyway, forgive the mods, they are only human. In the meantime, just try to educate anyone you can, and get anyone you can involved in some form.
And next year the GOP will be all "Help us take back the House and Senate!"
I'd be happy to, after we primary out all the cucks first. And they're still not getting my money through solicited donations; they'll have to just continue taking it in the form of taxes instead.
We should have control of the GOP by next year, if early returns on the Precinct Project continue.
We won't support any candidate who isn't committed to a return to a Constitutional Republic and a limited Federal Gov't. I might even make supporting repeal of the 17th Amendment a pre-requisite.
I'm ok with the 19th, but want a Constitutional knowledge requirement for ALL voters. That's a tough sell, because there are good reasons why there's no litmus test for voting other citizenship.
Interestingly, when they've gamed out a Convention of States, the 17th is almost always the first one to go. 16th is next on the list.
Thanks for the correction. I am not opposed to the 15th in any way.
The 17th is indeed the direct election of Senators and it took power away from the States. That has to be overturned. Imagine Senators who cared about their Constituents instead of big corporate donors and special interest groups?
I've started the process of moving my family to Texas in preparation for the split. Cant wait for the shit to hit the fan in 2022 when the GOP realise how many of us they've lost, and that their only hope to stop a full Marxist takeover is to support our secession.
Why do nukes matter? End of the day no-one will use them unless a first strike happens and even then by that point it doesn't even matter. We already have such a prosperous economy even with the federal leeches sapping our money, so even if we end up with none we can easily build our own in no time
Because the rest of the country is infected? And the 6th showed we're not willing to do what we knew we had to do in order to cleanse it? Therefore our only option is this. It isn't like we'll not be able to go anywhere we please either considering the Marxists will have full open boarder policies once they're put in charge of everything. It'll be the animals running the zoo
Your way guarantees a civil war. And they'd be the "official" government with the nuke codes. You don't think those people are insane enough to use 1 or 2 to intimidate people into compliance? They just used a fake virus to destroy our economy, and the prosperous ecnonomy you describe is a lot more fragile than the stock market portrays.
I don't think a real insurrection on 1/6 would have been helped our purposes either.
Giving up on Law and Order means you don't believe the Constitution is robust enough to stand up to this threat. I suggest it is. We've got legal solutions and the court of opinion continues to shift in our favor, which is important.
Give it time before looking for final solutions. Those options are always available after we've exhausted every peaceful solution.
"Legal solutions" went out the window the moment the courts decided that elections could now be rigged. This is the exact same rhetoric that led us into the shitshow that was the 6th. The media is controlled by Soros and his fellow pedos, the younger generation is brainwashed by globohomo, and social media is increasingly finding ways to remove any and all conservative voices. The only way out of this is to create our own spaces, our own communities, and to turn our backs on the parasites that have destroyed the fabric of this nation
What I'm saying is that there are many paths to undoing the coup, and we are actively hammering on all fronts. It's slow grinding work, but not all is as the MSM portrays it to be.
People will address those questions by open and public discussions. Why do you throw away an idea just because you don't know the answers to some of the things right now? So, you like a girl, and you wonder how you can ask her out, but you give up because you have a question you don't know how to answer to right now. You have a very strange way to look at a life.
One basic rule of online discussions is to not project your assumptions on someone absent evidence. Throwing insults is also pretty inane and I don't normally waste a bit of energy on people who do that.
I'm going to make an exception, because this is a learning opportunity.
"People will address those questions by open and public discussions."
We are talking about a messy divorce from a greedy and evil faction. Do you really see them wanting to have open and public discussions? I don't, so now you're stuck with "how can we force them to accept the divorce under our terms". I've seen no evidence that the Dems and their backers have any desire leaving us with anything. They want total power.
Where am I wrong there? This is the real world.
"Why do you throw away an idea just because you don't know the answers to some of the things right now? "
Several reasons.
A. I do know the answers to those questions, otherwise I wouldn't have asked them in the manner I did. The answers are that there is no solution to issues like this that
both sides will agree upon. None. They don't compromise.
B. The one sure way to have them win is for our side to be divided. We've got some who want to start a 3rd party, and others (like me) looking to take over the GOP. Then you've got others like yourself who want secession. We'd like to have everyone on the same page instead of dividing.
So I'm hoping that if you see the impracticality of secession, you'll pitch in and help out in the more likely paths forward.
For the record, a third party is how I'd rather operate, but that's not viable in the time frame we have, so I've opted to go with the path with the greatest likelihoods of success, and that's to work within the existing structure of the GOP. We can change it into a MAGA party if all of us pitch in.
If you can respond without insults and bad assumptions, I'm interested in your response. If not, there's a block function which I've almost never had to use, but you only get one intellectually dishonest take with me. 2 strike rule.
You are assuming the basic rule. You are new here, which makes it very suspect. Some of us have been on T_D since 2015-2016. Your behavior falls into a strange one.
That's a pretty basic rule for polite discourse. And I'm not new to the internet.
I think this place is the best site I've been on. I love it here. Congrats on being part of it for so long. I wish I'd found it sooner.
It is still rude to project and calling someone a girl is hardly polite. I prefer polite and don't waste my time with those who aren't. Feel free to address my argument in the previous comment.
No need for thanks I'm excited for it! If we don't turn up there in big numbers then that's EXACTLY what's gonna happen. If we manage to get a large number of patriots down there, then we could start looking at making unofficial local volunteer groups to watch the border. Maybe look at building houses as close as we can get to the border so we can have entire communities keeping the leeches at bay? Now we know the ballot box is useless and the ammo boxes are seemingly staying shut, we need to take it upon ourselves to keep this nation great.
Thanks! I've pretty much given up on trusting politicians to do anything. Trump was the last chance we had at using the system to get what we want, as they've shown they'll now stoop to any means necessary to keep the global elites in the seat of power. Now it's up to us to return to the american roots of local community organisations. Hope I get to meet more of you wonderful patriots when I arrive down there later this year!
After stabbing Trump in the back, does the GOP really believe we have that short of a memory? I guess so. They still don’t think we see right through their bullshit.
Yesterday I got two letters from them in the mail. Both heavily using DJT's name. And both "signed" by Ronna McDaniel and Trump. One was a "order of merit from the RNC" in the form of a diploma, saying that DJT would be proud to see me contributing.They are desperate!!
I'm about to mail both back with a nice f*ck off RINOS message like I always do.
In Trump's speech at CPAC, he pushed 2 websites. One was donaldjtrump.com. If you go there and ick on contribute, it takes you to winred.com. Winred is a GOP owned and operated fundraising website. (https://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/WinRed)
This is still the case today. Why hasn't this stopped? Why did he promote it?
Now is the time to start a replacement party. Things are much worse than when the Republicans replaced the Whigs as the opposition party. There is nothing to lose. We'll have the few remaining good Republicans switch to the new party and then the Republicans can decide if they want to split the vote or allow our guys to go unchallenged by them.
We can force that exact same decision by taking over the GOP.
3rd Party sounds nice for a lot of reasons I agree with, but this fight requires cold calculations and our chances of success are greater by using the existing infrastructure.
The Party is just a shell; it's the people who matter and we've got the numbers.
The entire electoral process is so much more complicated now and it requires a lot of time and money to get a new party off the ground; two things we don't have right now.
The amount of work just to get on every State's ballots in time is daunting in itself. I've seen this first hand with the Libertarian Party, an established 3rd party with more than 20 million members.
Look, I'd rather go with a 3rd Part (I've never even been a Republican), but the surer path to victory is the GOP. We need to be focusing our efforts on other fronts than building a Party infrastructure.
They never stood by him for 4 years. Now they want to get votes by mentioning POTUS Trump (yep, still our President) in a good light.
Demoncraps are anti-American evil and repukicans are useless crickets.
As it should be! Trump is an amazingly gifted and respected business man and leader where true patriot conservative Americans are concerned. So, there’s no arguing any more that what he says, goes... RNC will regret their financial choices that bypassed election integrity when finances are now funneled toward DonaldJTrump.com and his Save America political action committee.
You didn't stand by me, guess what ? POTUS is going to make sure those he wants to primary out of office don't benefit from money because of him in any way. Love it.
Yeah theres some faggot running for city council in my small town and on his face book page he has Trump imagery everywhere. He was doing a meet and greet in a park I guess I came across hostile because when I ask him how was his campaign was funded, he told me that was none of my business. What a fag
Amen. The RINO establishment can fuck off. I receive emails from them all the time to donate. I am like, hell no, you have done nothing but decimated our nation for not siding with GEOTUS.
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This needs to be plastered over this forum
Mods need to sticky -- if they're not compromised
People have posted guides for this before and they have been stickied. I think the problem with stickies is you have to catch a mod browsing /new at just the right magical time.
And some things just rise to the top of their own merit.
Why would you think that?
They've been stickying some really questionable stuff lately. The forum feels different than it used to
I have long had the feeling that at least one of the mods was bought too far into the "hopium" of December and January. Which I was extremely skeptical of, as there were leftists who were discussing making us addicted to it shortly before the election. I'd never heard the word before October, so I was suspecting a demoralization campaign was behind it when it became "big". And clearly the demoralization has worked on some folks.
I suspect the same of most "it's worthless, give up" posts. These don't feel natural, and always seem to increase in number whenever some sort of event turns up or even remotely good news in the continuing fight. Same with any "tree of liberty" or "1776" posts. These, once again, seem to magically increase in number at times that events are coming.
The thing is, we've seen Color Revolutions, coups, and evil takeovers before, and we know this site is infiltrated more at the "poster" level than the mod level. So we have to be careful. Wise as serpents, innocent as doves, and whatnot. It does not mean that everyone who doesn't run out shooting is a coward or has given up. It does mean that people are now viewing any sort of protest or event they didn't organize themselves with a local group with extreme skepticism, and this is exactly how it should be right now.
Anyway, forgive the mods, they are only human. In the meantime, just try to educate anyone you can, and get anyone you can involved in some form.
Spread this word everywhere you can.
The Precinct Project is one of the most potent grass roots tools in our arsenal.
Very best case they're COWARDS. Worst case they're an ENEMY.
That is unequivocally the framework of the GOP now :(
Backstabbing Traitors.
Considering they make every decision based on political calculations instead of principle, your summary is accurate.
I think they're both.
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Time to raise money. GOP: "We love Trump."
Time to stop Biden from stealing the election. GOP "Trump led an insurrection!"
And next year the GOP will be all "Help us take back the House and Senate!"
I'd be happy to, after we primary out all the cucks first. And they're still not getting my money through solicited donations; they'll have to just continue taking it in the form of taxes instead.
We should have control of the GOP by next year, if early returns on the Precinct Project continue.
We won't support any candidate who isn't committed to a return to a Constitutional Republic and a limited Federal Gov't. I might even make supporting repeal of the 17th Amendment a pre-requisite.
Any thoughts on the 19th? 😁
I'm ok with the 19th, but want a Constitutional knowledge requirement for ALL voters. That's a tough sell, because there are good reasons why there's no litmus test for voting other citizenship.
Interestingly, when they've gamed out a Convention of States, the 17th is almost always the first one to go. 16th is next on the list.
Um... you might want to edit that as the 15th is the right to vote based on race, and I'm pretty sure you misremembered something.
16th is the income tax (agreed), while 17 is the direct election of senators (unsure on this one tbh).
Thanks for the correction. I am not opposed to the 15th in any way.
The 17th is indeed the direct election of Senators and it took power away from the States. That has to be overturned. Imagine Senators who cared about their Constituents instead of big corporate donors and special interest groups?
I imagine it'd stop a lot of this nonsense, especially if the federal senators were renewed/fired every time a new state congress was formed.
Amend it to only allow votes by the genders known as male and female (aka, the only two that really exist).
We have to get rid of all the leftists in the party.
Things getting SPICY
I've started the process of moving my family to Texas in preparation for the split. Cant wait for the shit to hit the fan in 2022 when the GOP realise how many of us they've lost, and that their only hope to stop a full Marxist takeover is to support our secession.
Good. We need reinforcements from blue state locusts and illegals.
I totally understand the desire to secede, but it's not the path forward. There are numerous reasons why. Among them:
Who gets the nukes? We won't trust them with them and vice versa.
What about the other infrastructure? Do you just cut pipelines and other interconnected systems?
Why give up one square inch of American soil? It's our country and we aren't just going to cede territory to a vile enemy on our front porch.
Why do nukes matter? End of the day no-one will use them unless a first strike happens and even then by that point it doesn't even matter. We already have such a prosperous economy even with the federal leeches sapping our money, so even if we end up with none we can easily build our own in no time
Because the rest of the country is infected? And the 6th showed we're not willing to do what we knew we had to do in order to cleanse it? Therefore our only option is this. It isn't like we'll not be able to go anywhere we please either considering the Marxists will have full open boarder policies once they're put in charge of everything. It'll be the animals running the zoo
Your way guarantees a civil war. And they'd be the "official" government with the nuke codes. You don't think those people are insane enough to use 1 or 2 to intimidate people into compliance? They just used a fake virus to destroy our economy, and the prosperous ecnonomy you describe is a lot more fragile than the stock market portrays.
I don't think a real insurrection on 1/6 would have been helped our purposes either.
Giving up on Law and Order means you don't believe the Constitution is robust enough to stand up to this threat. I suggest it is. We've got legal solutions and the court of opinion continues to shift in our favor, which is important.
Give it time before looking for final solutions. Those options are always available after we've exhausted every peaceful solution.
"Legal solutions" went out the window the moment the courts decided that elections could now be rigged. This is the exact same rhetoric that led us into the shitshow that was the 6th. The media is controlled by Soros and his fellow pedos, the younger generation is brainwashed by globohomo, and social media is increasingly finding ways to remove any and all conservative voices. The only way out of this is to create our own spaces, our own communities, and to turn our backs on the parasites that have destroyed the fabric of this nation
You're not hearing all of my words. Your solutions will still be available to us after if the peaceful solutions fail.
I don't think they'll fail, and if I'm right we win a much bigger victory that taking your ball and going home.
Your way is defeatist. We only lose this if we lack the willpower to refuse to accept their heist.
Keep an open mind and an eye out for grass roots developments and other victories we've been winning across the country. This fight is far from over.
Honestly man until this coup gets undone (which we all know it won't) America is lost
I agree.
What I'm saying is that there are many paths to undoing the coup, and we are actively hammering on all fronts. It's slow grinding work, but not all is as the MSM portrays it to be.
Don't give up quite yet.
I can't imagine how but I hope so, this illegitimate reality sucks.
It does suck.
Have some Hopium.
https://rumble.com/veq4nx-30000-fake-ballots-found-in-georgia-will-turn-state-32-electoral-college-vo.html
People will address those questions by open and public discussions. Why do you throw away an idea just because you don't know the answers to some of the things right now? So, you like a girl, and you wonder how you can ask her out, but you give up because you have a question you don't know how to answer to right now. You have a very strange way to look at a life.
One basic rule of online discussions is to not project your assumptions on someone absent evidence. Throwing insults is also pretty inane and I don't normally waste a bit of energy on people who do that.
I'm going to make an exception, because this is a learning opportunity.
"People will address those questions by open and public discussions."
We are talking about a messy divorce from a greedy and evil faction. Do you really see them wanting to have open and public discussions? I don't, so now you're stuck with "how can we force them to accept the divorce under our terms". I've seen no evidence that the Dems and their backers have any desire leaving us with anything. They want total power.
Where am I wrong there? This is the real world.
"Why do you throw away an idea just because you don't know the answers to some of the things right now? "
Several reasons.
A. I do know the answers to those questions, otherwise I wouldn't have asked them in the manner I did. The answers are that there is no solution to issues like this that both sides will agree upon. None. They don't compromise.
B. The one sure way to have them win is for our side to be divided. We've got some who want to start a 3rd party, and others (like me) looking to take over the GOP. Then you've got others like yourself who want secession. We'd like to have everyone on the same page instead of dividing.
So I'm hoping that if you see the impracticality of secession, you'll pitch in and help out in the more likely paths forward.
For the record, a third party is how I'd rather operate, but that's not viable in the time frame we have, so I've opted to go with the path with the greatest likelihoods of success, and that's to work within the existing structure of the GOP. We can change it into a MAGA party if all of us pitch in.
If you can respond without insults and bad assumptions, I'm interested in your response. If not, there's a block function which I've almost never had to use, but you only get one intellectually dishonest take with me. 2 strike rule.
You are assuming the basic rule. You are new here, which makes it very suspect. Some of us have been on T_D since 2015-2016. Your behavior falls into a strange one.
That's a pretty basic rule for polite discourse. And I'm not new to the internet.
I think this place is the best site I've been on. I love it here. Congrats on being part of it for so long. I wish I'd found it sooner.
It is still rude to project and calling someone a girl is hardly polite. I prefer polite and don't waste my time with those who aren't. Feel free to address my argument in the previous comment.
how old are you? 64?
I went back and re-read our conversation.
I mis-read this sentence:
"So, you like a girl, and you wonder how you can ask her out, but you give up because you have a question you don't know how to answer to right now. "
I interpreted it as you were calling me a girl, which I found rude, hence my reaction.
The fault was mine, you are unblocked, and have my apology.
I don't have time for your games. Block.
Thanks for moving to Texas. I know many conservatives who wanted to move there but didn't because it might turn blue pretty soon
No need for thanks I'm excited for it! If we don't turn up there in big numbers then that's EXACTLY what's gonna happen. If we manage to get a large number of patriots down there, then we could start looking at making unofficial local volunteer groups to watch the border. Maybe look at building houses as close as we can get to the border so we can have entire communities keeping the leeches at bay? Now we know the ballot box is useless and the ammo boxes are seemingly staying shut, we need to take it upon ourselves to keep this nation great.
I like your thinking and optimism, solid solutions!
Thanks! I've pretty much given up on trusting politicians to do anything. Trump was the last chance we had at using the system to get what we want, as they've shown they'll now stoop to any means necessary to keep the global elites in the seat of power. Now it's up to us to return to the american roots of local community organisations. Hope I get to meet more of you wonderful patriots when I arrive down there later this year!
Fucking crooks got away with it for long enough. If you got duped, request a refund.
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They are trying to use Trump's name because they know they'll fail hard if they don't -- and they already are failing!
They failed when they didnt support him. Fuck em
GOP without Trump is HISTORY
That's my point stick a fork in em. They're done.
Agreed. Can we also stop talking about any election going forward until we get 2020 right?
We need to be fighting for 2020 still while also laying the foundation to dominate 2022 and beyond.
We can do both, and we are.
I found it gauche that they use his name despite betraying him like that. I’m like “screw you” to every one of their spam texts anymore.
Makes sense to me. It’s his brand and he proudly spent years building it.
After stabbing Trump in the back, does the GOP really believe we have that short of a memory? I guess so. They still don’t think we see right through their bullshit.
Sundance thinks Trump's lawyers sent actual "cease and desist" letters to the RNC, NRCC and NRSC . . .
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2021/03/06/president-trump-tells-rnc-nrcc-and-nrsc-not-to-use-his-name-then-announces-new-set-of-maga-endorsements/
Yesterday I got two letters from them in the mail. Both heavily using DJT's name. And both "signed" by Ronna McDaniel and Trump. One was a "order of merit from the RNC" in the form of a diploma, saying that DJT would be proud to see me contributing.They are desperate!!
I'm about to mail both back with a nice f*ck off RINOS message like I always do.
They’ve been using his name in every email fuck them
Never getting dollar from me again.
LOL....my man.
Good.
The upcoming primaries are the most important in a long, long time, perhaps ever. Too bad voter confidence is at am all-time low.
Yeah, use the Five RINOs instead. The GOP insists on keeping them, so reap the rewards. They are the GOP now.
Then please, explain ths to me....
In Trump's speech at CPAC, he pushed 2 websites. One was donaldjtrump.com. If you go there and ick on contribute, it takes you to winred.com. Winred is a GOP owned and operated fundraising website. (https://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/WinRed)
This is still the case today. Why hasn't this stopped? Why did he promote it?
I'm now thinking about registering as a Republican just so I can tell them to fuck off.
Now is the time to start a replacement party. Things are much worse than when the Republicans replaced the Whigs as the opposition party. There is nothing to lose. We'll have the few remaining good Republicans switch to the new party and then the Republicans can decide if they want to split the vote or allow our guys to go unchallenged by them.
We can force that exact same decision by taking over the GOP.
3rd Party sounds nice for a lot of reasons I agree with, but this fight requires cold calculations and our chances of success are greater by using the existing infrastructure.
The Party is just a shell; it's the people who matter and we've got the numbers.
That sounds like trying to preserve the Whigs in 1860. It was just a shell.
The entire electoral process is so much more complicated now and it requires a lot of time and money to get a new party off the ground; two things we don't have right now.
The amount of work just to get on every State's ballots in time is daunting in itself. I've seen this first hand with the Libertarian Party, an established 3rd party with more than 20 million members.
Look, I'd rather go with a 3rd Part (I've never even been a Republican), but the surer path to victory is the GOP. We need to be focusing our efforts on other fronts than building a Party infrastructure.
At some point very soon it becomes too late late to leave the party. If he's going to do it, it needs to happen in months, not years.
Just got an email from gop saying something about Trump legacy member status ...dunno didnt open it
They never stood by him for 4 years. Now they want to get votes by mentioning POTUS Trump (yep, still our President) in a good light. Demoncraps are anti-American evil and repukicans are useless crickets.
As it should be! Trump is an amazingly gifted and respected business man and leader where true patriot conservative Americans are concerned. So, there’s no arguing any more that what he says, goes... RNC will regret their financial choices that bypassed election integrity when finances are now funneled toward DonaldJTrump.com and his Save America political action committee.
You didn't stand by me, guess what ? POTUS is going to make sure those he wants to primary out of office don't benefit from money because of him in any way. Love it.
Yeah theres some faggot running for city council in my small town and on his face book page he has Trump imagery everywhere. He was doing a meet and greet in a park I guess I came across hostile because when I ask him how was his campaign was funded, he told me that was none of my business. What a fag
I saw the cease and desist order, it just said
Will not get a dime from me ever again.
He should demand and claim all the money collected by the GOP using his name.
Remember this when you see politicians put on theatrical performances on twitter or during confessional hearings. They want donations.
I call on President Trump to stop funding his PAC through Winred after the RNC takes its cut.
HELL YA. NO FUCKING RINOS!!!!
I just want a new party
He’s already announced he is not starting a third party so.....
He must've realized how badly they're going to stab him in the back after dealing with them face to face at CPAC
Good. screw them.
Damn straight I support Trump not these Rino faggots
Fuck the GOP
its almost like a whole other party needs to be formed and vetted with encrypted servers...
OK now on to more important stuff GEOTUS. Clock is ticking.
Has he established a new communications base on social media or is he still wasting his time appealing the big tech bans?