I don't give a shit if the virus is real or not. The pandemic is complete and utter hogwash and always was. No one would ever have known if not for the propaganda telling everyone to panic. Would have been a usual flu season.
Unless Trump was lying and putting on big act when he said he had it and went to stay in Walter Reed for a few days, then it's obviously real. And I don't think you'll find many Trump supporters who believe he faked it.
when he came out of it and didnt tout HCQ again i was perplexxxed... nothing makes sense. its the fog of war. the war is against anyone that isnt in the big club. everyone else is a victim, complicit or brainwashed. we are the chosen ones able to see clearly through the bullshit.
HCQ had clearly not prevented him from coming down with symptomatic COVID-19, and while at Walter Reed he was treated with Regeneron's new polyclonal antibody (along with the commonly used steroid Decadron/dexamethasone).
HCQ was wildly overpromoted early on. It appears that it is probably helpful in preventing symptomatic COVID-19 and may also help moderate the course of the disease when taken after symptoms appear, but there was never a speck of evidence that it was some miracle drug that meant there was no need for development of new drugs like the polyclonal antibody.
Honestly, the cheap and plentiful dexamethasone is probably much more effective at preventing symptoms from reaching life-threatening levels, but we were several weeks into a full-blown pandemic before physicians and researchers began to understand that the worst cases of COVID-19 were driven primarily by an out-of-control excessive immune system reaction. Dexamethasone damps down the kind of immune reaction and related inflammation that was killing a lot of COVID patients. And once it was understood that the other big killer was the blood becoming sticky and prone to forming clots, common blood-thinners were added to treatment protocols and made a huge difference.
There are a lot of things that make sense in "3rd World" countries that don't make sense here. I'm not saying it's not useful at all, just that it has become clear that there are other treatments and now the vaccines as preventives, that are much more effective than HCQ. On the other hand, if you're the Indian government and needing to come up with something back in February or March of last year, to provide some degree of emergency protection to your country's massive horde of healthcare workers, many of whom are working in 3rd World conditions, HCQ made sense. It was already widely distributed due to being in common use as an antimalarial, and was already being manufactured in India so easy to ramp up production further.
Mayo Clinic tried it too, in a clinical trial as a preventive for their heathcare workers. It just didn't pan out as hugely effective.
Covid-19 is fake, as in the phenomenon and response surrounding it is fake. It is a seasonal flu and the data responding to that shows that it acted extremely similar, though slightly worse than a flu in terms of excess deaths, which might be because people are locked in their homes and depressed.
Covid-19 is a real disease... the president got it and my sister got it, but it wasn’t as bad as it’s hyped to be. The weirdest symptoms she got was that she couldn’t smell or taste things for a day or two.
I've had to explain this a NUMBER of times to these morons. It's more bullshit THEY created. You call the shutdown and the overreaction a hoax and they go around claiming "The Trump supporters think the virus is fake" even though nobody has ever made that claim.. It's just another example both of how they don't listen and they just create whatever fake narrative they want to make themselves feel like they have the absolute moral authority. More Blue Anon shit.
The virus is absolutely real, the at-risk elderly and co-morbidity population should have had special precautions and everyone else should have lived their lives normally.
The Western world's response was complete horseshit, fueled by the fake news MSM, the CCCP, the WHO, and Fauci and crew here in the U.S.
Well no one ever put people Infected with the flu Directly into nursing homes before, until this year ... your thinking is beyond flawed. “ Flu deaths were logged as covid”. “ omg all the covid nursing home deaths” one sentence after the other . You let me know what deaths are “ covid flu” and what are actually “ covid” then we can talk
He's being more disingenuous than retarded. As he's almost certainly not right wing to begin with.
It's kinda like that old, "I used to be an atheist/christian buuuuuut..." when in a secular to theological debate. It's meant to garner empathy and establish a sense of relate-ability with the person you're arguing with, but in reality there is no actual basis of substance for it. It's nonsense at best and manipulative at worst.
Even if the pandemic was real, the response to it was not measured to the severity. We did no such shutdown for the swine flu and we're still here. Any of the measures taken were unjustified.
Seems to be a slightly more severe flu. I'd imagine they intended for the wuflu to be much worse than it was. While it lacked the sheer manstopping power they intended, the media fucked people up psychologically to compensate. People turned into hypochondriacs who self diagnosed everything as covid and the hospitals were happy to tell them they had it. I'd assume some older people who caught it lost the will to live, thinking it was some super deadly disease they couldn't possibly recover from.
The vast majority of people know the virus is real, but they’re being lied to about stuff like the died “of covid” rather than “with covid” numbers in addition to many other things.
People get sick of being lied to about details and the effectiveness of various measures.
when the people that profit the most from it war game months before it goes live... you know its bullshit. we need real men to take action against these pitiful Gates types
Total deaths in U.S. last year similar to previous years, 6% of covid deaths are from covid only, newish cdc report showing masks ineffective, total common flu cases and deaths this year so low it essentially is non existent though somehow covid still spreads (total number of flu cases this season were 1300 about a week or 2 ago). Not saying covid isn't real but the data I've seen doesnt match the propaganda. But no matter what the sheeple will not listen.
What strategy do any of you use to get through to normies?
I use the "fuck off you're a retarded sheep and if you get in my face I'm going to give you a Liverpool kiss" strategy. Very effective as they don't much expect this from a respectable looking well-groomed 55 yo woman.
I don't give a shit if the virus is real or not. The pandemic is complete and utter hogwash and always was. No one would ever have known if not for the propaganda telling everyone to panic. Would have been a usual flu season.
The vaccine was not created for the virus. The virus was created for the vaccine.
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Unless Trump was lying and putting on big act when he said he had it and went to stay in Walter Reed for a few days, then it's obviously real. And I don't think you'll find many Trump supporters who believe he faked it.
when he came out of it and didnt tout HCQ again i was perplexxxed... nothing makes sense. its the fog of war. the war is against anyone that isnt in the big club. everyone else is a victim, complicit or brainwashed. we are the chosen ones able to see clearly through the bullshit.
HCQ had clearly not prevented him from coming down with symptomatic COVID-19, and while at Walter Reed he was treated with Regeneron's new polyclonal antibody (along with the commonly used steroid Decadron/dexamethasone).
HCQ was wildly overpromoted early on. It appears that it is probably helpful in preventing symptomatic COVID-19 and may also help moderate the course of the disease when taken after symptoms appear, but there was never a speck of evidence that it was some miracle drug that meant there was no need for development of new drugs like the polyclonal antibody.
Honestly, the cheap and plentiful dexamethasone is probably much more effective at preventing symptoms from reaching life-threatening levels, but we were several weeks into a full-blown pandemic before physicians and researchers began to understand that the worst cases of COVID-19 were driven primarily by an out-of-control excessive immune system reaction. Dexamethasone damps down the kind of immune reaction and related inflammation that was killing a lot of COVID patients. And once it was understood that the other big killer was the blood becoming sticky and prone to forming clots, common blood-thinners were added to treatment protocols and made a huge difference.
Africa called... so did the Philippines.. papaue new g.. India.. they want your prof opinion
There are a lot of things that make sense in "3rd World" countries that don't make sense here. I'm not saying it's not useful at all, just that it has become clear that there are other treatments and now the vaccines as preventives, that are much more effective than HCQ. On the other hand, if you're the Indian government and needing to come up with something back in February or March of last year, to provide some degree of emergency protection to your country's massive horde of healthcare workers, many of whom are working in 3rd World conditions, HCQ made sense. It was already widely distributed due to being in common use as an antimalarial, and was already being manufactured in India so easy to ramp up production further.
Mayo Clinic tried it too, in a clinical trial as a preventive for their heathcare workers. It just didn't pan out as hugely effective.
Fake numbers, real virus.
China's fault. Liberals blame Italy because they are white.
Blue anon larping again.
Where is the data showing the COVID-19 virus cell or germ or whatever it’s called isolated by itself?
Virus is real, pandemic is as fake as our last election
Covid-19 is fake, as in the phenomenon and response surrounding it is fake. It is a seasonal flu and the data responding to that shows that it acted extremely similar, though slightly worse than a flu in terms of excess deaths, which might be because people are locked in their homes and depressed.
Covid-19 is a real disease... the president got it and my sister got it, but it wasn’t as bad as it’s hyped to be. The weirdest symptoms she got was that she couldn’t smell or taste things for a day or two.
It’s the flu.
Flu
The virus is real. The response to it is fake.
To be fair, there are, even here, people saying that this virus is fake
Although dumb libtards should know those are really a minority
Or they even know this but overuse this fact to spin a narrative
the only virus with a marketing campaign because its so weak.
I've had to explain this a NUMBER of times to these morons. It's more bullshit THEY created. You call the shutdown and the overreaction a hoax and they go around claiming "The Trump supporters think the virus is fake" even though nobody has ever made that claim.. It's just another example both of how they don't listen and they just create whatever fake narrative they want to make themselves feel like they have the absolute moral authority. More Blue Anon shit.
The virus is absolutely real, the at-risk elderly and co-morbidity population should have had special precautions and everyone else should have lived their lives normally.
The Western world's response was complete horseshit, fueled by the fake news MSM, the CCCP, the WHO, and Fauci and crew here in the U.S.
Where did the flu go then ...
Flu deaths were logged as Covid.
The flu doesn't result in the wipe-out of nursing homes and respirator shortages.
Well no one ever put people Infected with the flu Directly into nursing homes before, until this year ... your thinking is beyond flawed. “ Flu deaths were logged as covid”. “ omg all the covid nursing home deaths” one sentence after the other . You let me know what deaths are “ covid flu” and what are actually “ covid” then we can talk
Real illness Fake numbers
It’s a weak ass virus. If 400,000 Americans died because of the virus, why has it not impacted the number of dead in the year?
He's being more disingenuous than retarded. As he's almost certainly not right wing to begin with.
It's kinda like that old, "I used to be an atheist/christian buuuuuut..." when in a secular to theological debate. It's meant to garner empathy and establish a sense of relate-ability with the person you're arguing with, but in reality there is no actual basis of substance for it. It's nonsense at best and manipulative at worst.
Even if the pandemic was real, the response to it was not measured to the severity. We did no such shutdown for the swine flu and we're still here. Any of the measures taken were unjustified.
Seems to be a slightly more severe flu. I'd imagine they intended for the wuflu to be much worse than it was. While it lacked the sheer manstopping power they intended, the media fucked people up psychologically to compensate. People turned into hypochondriacs who self diagnosed everything as covid and the hospitals were happy to tell them they had it. I'd assume some older people who caught it lost the will to live, thinking it was some super deadly disease they couldn't possibly recover from.
There's way too many lies surrounding covid-19 to give it any credence.
The hype is the hoax, the virus is real. Probably engineered by dems and China.
The numbers are not misleading. They are being purposefully inflated and manipulated by the media to perpetuate fear.
And so hospitals can get an extra $70k a person
This too
The virus is real. The pandemic is fake!
The Global panic is manufactured.
Virus = Real, just not piles of bodies in the street.
virus = real pandemic = fake
The vast majority of people know the virus is real, but they’re being lied to about stuff like the died “of covid” rather than “with covid” numbers in addition to many other things.
People get sick of being lied to about details and the effectiveness of various measures.
i touched 13 states and flew 8 times. not even a sniffle.
The virus is fake in a lot of ways ...
Its a variation of the flu, just like bird flu and swine flu was...
when the people that profit the most from it war game months before it goes live... you know its bullshit. we need real men to take action against these pitiful Gates types
Total deaths in U.S. last year similar to previous years, 6% of covid deaths are from covid only, newish cdc report showing masks ineffective, total common flu cases and deaths this year so low it essentially is non existent though somehow covid still spreads (total number of flu cases this season were 1300 about a week or 2 ago). Not saying covid isn't real but the data I've seen doesnt match the propaganda. But no matter what the sheeple will not listen.
What strategy do any of you use to get through to normies?
I use the "fuck off you're a retarded sheep and if you get in my face I'm going to give you a Liverpool kiss" strategy. Very effective as they don't much expect this from a respectable looking well-groomed 55 yo woman.
😂🧂🧂
Not only are the numbers inflated and misleading but so is the lethality of the virus.