While I agree that using their own tactics against them has been hilarious, I don't think we should engage any longer. Stooping to their level and using their "rules" gives them some level of credibility even if you're using it to mock them. Don't let them drag you down to their pitiful level.
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No it is working. Their heads are exploding. No offense but you kind of sound like Mitch Mcconnel
Yeah, this guy is an idiot and the reason we lose the culture war.
Dude, they have already been legitimized by the left and their pet media because people like you didn't fight back 20 years ago. Some of us have been ringing this alarm bell since the early 90's but all you live and let live morons didn't realize that they are not interested in letting us live as we see fit.
You don't say "Oh well, people can do what they want" when they're shitting in your living room.
Thanks for calling me an idiot! Good to know we can have civil discourse amongst ourselves....
Also, I do fight back. 20 years ago it would have been hard for me to fight back much as a small child...please try to not be so accusatory so we can just have a conversation.
We can disagree on this and that's fine with me, but I see fighting back as not giving up ground on the definition of straight/heterosexual. I'm heterosexual, which means (if I werent already married) I'd be ONLY interested in dating biological females. I don't have to come up with a new term to describe that.
In my opinion, saying "super straight" is legitimizing trannies by saying just being "straight" means a dude dating a dude pretending to be a woman would be cool, but this is NOT what it means to be straight. I refuse to let them change the definitions of words to suit their purposes.
Stop being such a cuck. This entire civil attitude of yours is the problem. Stop being mild and asking for civil discourse and being passive aggressive, you twat.
Your entire post screams "loser" and you will lose any fight with a leftist because they aren't interested in debating you, they only care about making you give up.
This 4chan op isn't about legitimacy or anything else you think it is. It won't last more than a week. This is about making them rage and chimp out over something absurd. It's about making them so angry over us doing exactly what they do that they start to alienate the people in the middle that just want to be left alone.
The way you remove a festering rot is by exposing how bad it is instead of letting it hide under a veneer of civility.
Resorting to insults? I'm sure that's won lots of debates.
I will remain civil, but I have not and will not yield on my positions. So it doesn't matter if "they only care about making you give up." I will not give up.
And I agree the festering rot needs to be exposed, I just don't agree that this is the best way to do it. And even then, I did still admit in my original post and do still think it is funny. I just don't think it's productive.
From personal experience, trying to use their own logic against them doesn't really accomplish anything long term. Like I said, I think it's hilarious, but I don't think it will really having any long term effect, and I think it subtly gives up ground by now effectively saying if you're a straight dude, that means you're okay dating a dude pretending to be a lady. So now the definition of "straight" has been changed. This is why I don't think it should be allowed to stick.
I hope I'm wrong and a bunch of leftists will realize their logical fallacies and change their ways, but personally I've not seen it in the past.
They are the ones changing the definition of straight. It doesn’t affect grown adults who are married and cemented in their understanding, it is inpressionable kids getting peer pressured and told it’s straight. It gives them an out and a voice and a way to fight commies without overtly getting themselves cancelled. It’s a mass redpilling when you see the death threats these people are getting for not wanting to date trannies
So yes, I agree with you that they are the ones changing the definition. I guess we've just got different opinions on how to deal with that which is fine.
And you're right that I'm not dealing directly with this since I'm married.
Yea I get what you’re saying too except we don’t believe in identity politics. We’re not going to catch the identity politics of we do it to fuck with commies. But some people are stuck between being a commie sympathizer and a nazi racist, like kids in hs and college or young people who want to hve friends. I personally am a younger dude and I still am openly a trump supporter and disrespect trannies. But someone who is perhaps not as capable of dealing with social pressure might just pretend girl dick is a real thing just to fit in. And next thing you know they are cool with socialism and white guilt and so on. It allows them to draw a line
Yes, I'm sure sticking to muh rules and muh dignity will effectively combat bloodthirsty anarchists that want nothing more than to see every institution crumble by hook or by crook.
I feel more and more like Paul Ryan every time I enter a thread like this.
I am no longer above the fray.
Serve madness to madness.
I think we have a long ways to go to "stoop to their level".
We are mocking what deserves to be mocked. Playing along with their mental gymnastics accomplishes nothing. I enjoy exposing the crazy for what it is.
If there has been anything proven in the last 50 years. Its that you cannot argue with a liberal. They will just lie, cheat, and steal everything, while gaslighting you the entire time.
Piss off.
Good contribution to the conversation, thanks!
https://patriots.win/p/12hkhl5LUq/x/c/4DyLxwDnUpQ, bitch.
How did you become so eloquent?
https://patriots.win/p/12hkhl5LUq/x/c/4DyLxwDnUpQ, dumb bitch.
You're literally linking to this post which accomplishes what exactly?
Awww, it's retarded. I'm so sorry, I didn't realize you had a disability. God bless your little heart, you are so brave!
You realize you're doing nothing to help, right?
Shut up.
Were not going to their level, we're making memes and they are taking this shit seriously.
Absolutely, they have everything to lose
I'm just sitting back and watching the fireworks. holds out popcorn tub popcorn?
This isn’t validating their logic, this is dismantling their logic with their own confusion. They’re hurting themselves from confusion.
Here's why I disagree:
The current iteration is pretty good because it's kind of a gold mine of funny, so it's going to gather people just in it for a laugh. But, it's going to amass a crazy amount of sincere sounding bullshit: We are real and are valid! Your words are hurting us and it's damaging.
If it keeps going, at some point, some rando is going to go his kids' school and ask why Super Straight isn't being covered by the text that teaches about the spectrum and the trans and the whatnot. So, the school admin will, of course, respond, "Because it's not a real thing, just a made up transphobic or white supremacist make-believe." So, our hero will reply, "Oh, no, no, no. It's not made up. Who told you that? I'm super straight, and so is my wife."
No matter what comes next, it's a nightmare for the sexual identity politician:
On the one hand, going into the weeds explaining to someone that their preferred sexual identity is invalid (or worse, valid but not worth teaching) is an absolute minefield. Saying something offensive is a near certainty, and that's gonna get you cancelled by the superstraightphobes. Actually, engaging at all is lending credence, so that's already a cancel.
On the other hand, not engaging is going to get you cancelled by the superstraightphobes as well. I mean, those guys are just looking for some reason to be offended, so now they're going to be offended by our hypothetical politician not standing up trans lives and not telling this transphobic parent that his hate isn't welcome there.
It's a delicious catch-22. It just has to be properly aimed-- it has to be aimed at policy makers.
I think about it more, the only acceptable answer is to come back hard, "Hate has no home here". Even pleading the fifth is bad news. But, while that kind of virtue signaling is easy to do in couched in the anonymity of twitter, it's pretty difficult IRL.
Nope. You’re wrong. Unless we control everything, it’s literally the only way to combat their insanity.
I agree that using identity politics is a bad idea, it always bites back at you. I am abstaining for myself, if you want to take the risk with identity politics, go ahead, but I am warning, it always bites back.
No. Stop being a superphobe.
Also stop thinking everything is a trap. Its posts like yours that make me take the time to go into Settings, turn off Community Styling, come back to this page, and use the downvote button.
Learn to take a joke and laugh a little, cuckservative.
Op is a cuckservative confirmed
We didn't create this, they did. To give up Super Straight means THEY WIN you agree that trans women are real women
You skipped right over why this started and have a HUGE BLIND SPOT..
Are you going to fuck a trans? Their claim is they are real women, and anyone that does not find them attractive bigots, nazi and degenerate humans that need to be destroyed.
It's either your straight or fucked up. Nothing else matters.
Shut up Meg!
The whole thing is to just trash our forums not theirs
Agreed. Using collectivism as satire is fine and definitely hilarious.
Using collectivism as an actual strategy is not ok.