There's no official borders of what is considered NorCal, but it's usually described as the northern 48 counties, starting around Fresno or San Loius Obisbo, so yes, SF is part of NorCal. And, the "broken down" counties you're referring to are the northeastern ones, which are red, but parsley populated.
You don't have to remind me that CA and NY have conservatives, I grew up in NY, and moved to CA in high school. And have returned lo live in NY for 4 years, later on.
it's usually described as the northern 48 counties, starting around Fresno or San Loius Obisbo,
Native Californian here and I would totally disagree with that description. I'd agree that "Southern California" unofficially starts there, but the inverse isn't true. I'd say then you're into the "Central Coast" and the "Bay Area" before getting to anything I'd call "Northern California."
There's no official borders of what is considered NorCal, but it's usually described as the northern 48 counties, starting around Fresno or San Loius Obisbo, so yes, SF is part of NorCal. And, the "broken down" counties you're referring to are the northeastern ones, which are red, but parsley populated.
You don't have to remind me that CA and NY have conservatives, I grew up in NY, and moved to CA in high school. And have returned lo live in NY for 4 years, later on.
Native Californian here and I would totally disagree with that description. I'd agree that "Southern California" unofficially starts there, but the inverse isn't true. I'd say then you're into the "Central Coast" and the "Bay Area" before getting to anything I'd call "Northern California."