yes they are, and more expensive due to medical costs, suicide, them getting raped, beat etc and isolation. they costs upwards of 100,000+ per year to keep alive and safe just to rot.
Yeah I don't think that's true anymore. I talk to a bunch of LEO's who work in prisons and they say sex crime inmates are kept separately so it's not like it was in the old days when they REALLY had it rough in prison.
Unless they're pedos, then they just kill them, without the expensive appeals process. Or at least they do if the pedos are put into the general population (which they should be).
life in prison is about 10x cheaper than execution.
If you are at a point where execution is considered, you are already in prison for life. So we are not talking about costs of trials before that. You said it's 10 times cheaper to incarcerate and feed them for LIFE while they are barred from productivity than to execute them.
So either keeping them alive and incarcerated is dirt cheap, or executions are unbelievably much more expensive than necessary.
Sure technically execution is a life sentence but not of your natural life.
And the latter is true, executions are incredibly expensive due to the number of appeals and court trials that need to take place before said execution. Not to mention the increasing challenge of obtaining the correct drugs required.
Most of the time executions are just life sentences that have their costs increased dramatically due to the legal process that needs to be undertaken when deciding the fate of a human life.
Taking into account that most sentences to execution are overturned and that you will eventually kill an innocent person, the death penalty just doesnt make any sense.
Should state police execute you immediately when they plant filth on your hard drive? You want any State to have such power?
You think actual pedo scum are going to be targeted, and not dissidents like you?
Stop the power fantasies. Understand reality.
The problem is not legislation, but actual enforcement. Why did they not pass a Voter law first to ensure there are proper Executive Branch members elected to implement these laws as intended? Why the cart before the horse? Think!
And it's not even necessarily police frame jobs that could get you.
If an underage student sends a lewd photo to a teacher, that teacher is in possession of child porn. How easy would it be to borrow his phone for 15 seconds and forward it to someone? Because that counts as distribution.
Let's not even forget the number of women that have planted cp on their husbands computers to get favorable outcomes in family court. It's tough because it's easy to know what the right punishment is, but not so easy to know if a person is an actual criminal given how imperfect the system is. But don't worry, all the pedophiles with political connections will walk free. Honk honk.
What about the wrongfully convicted? Seems odd that we talk down about leftist courts/judges around here regarding some issues but support their use wholeheartedly on other matters.
Some people actually argue that death by old age is a cruel punishment. I'd rather be executed immediately after my last appeal than die of old age in prison. What's the point in waiting around for 50 years in a cell before I am executed by old age?
AZ pedes need to lobby their state reps. In fact, all of us living in states with republican trifectas need to do this! I, unfortunately, live in CA. While Iowa has passed election security measures, CA will pass more election stealing measures. You can bet that "Rs" like Mike Garcia and Young Kim will be out of business 2022. Other states will need to offset this. I'm looking at you AZ and TX pedes. Also, if they can steal seats in red Georgia, they can steal seats anywhere. Whether you live in Arkansas or Montana, lobby your state reps! Make them know that this election integrity reform is at the top of your concerns!
This. CP distribution is too easy to plant false charges for. I loath giving feds the ability to raid your house, especially if your mom's scrapbook pictures of you in the bathtub at age 2 are deemed Child Pornography.
And they ruin your life over it. Making Child Porn should 100% be illegal, but porn isnt clearly defined and is so open to interpretation that it gives the state too much power. Personally I think rooting out and punishing pedophiles should be done by civilians, not feds. The crime is so severe and degenerate that the only punishment suitable enough is medieval.
Yup just watch a guy in a crowd hit a girl back out of self defense while she hits him nonstop until he finally reacts. Nobody does shit about a girl assaulting a man, but soon as he's forced to strike back, they all jump him.
The same would easily be done to us with a simple false accusation.
I really hope this isn't an unpopular opinion, but people shouldn't be taking pictures of their kids (or anybody else's for that matter) naked in the tub or anywhere. I'm not calling it cp exactly as the pics were, hopefully, not taken in a sexual manner, but very inappropriate. I mean, who are you taking these pictures for? To show off to your friends on facebook? Come on, man!
Parenthood literally changes the way your brain works, for example the disgust center of your brain deactivates when you're changing diapers and such. I could see something similar happening when sex and your child is involved, like mothers probably don't even see their kids except as asexual creatures. That might also be why they're good at raising kids, but terrible at raising teenagers.
State Rep. Hannley, who called herself “the Bernie Sanders of Tucson with Hillary Clinton’s gender issues” during her campaign in Tuscon’s Legislative District 9, was the only member of the Arizona House to vote against the bill, seemingly decrying it as racist in her explanation.
Not to mention that the crime of rape of a minor usually has no requirement that you have reason to believe the person to be underage.
The guy who invented the 3D printed gun got honeypotted by the FBI on a dating site for sugar-daddies. The girl had a fake ID saying she was 18. But since the law didn't care, the guy is now going to prison for a long time because the girl was actually only 16.
These laws can have some serious unintended consequences.
Well, I think he was able to get a good plea deal. According to Wiki it was only third-degree "injury to a child," and he also registered as a sex offender. I think he stepped away from the limelight on his own, but I'm not sure
Now watch as the FBI claims jurisdiction in every Arizona trafficking case and sets the perps free while sending the victims to work on one of Hickman's egg farms.
There could be valid reasons to oppose the bill. It could be someone extremely principled who is worried about someone being set-up or falsely accused having their life stripped away. Or maybe they don't want to absorb the enormous cost of housing these degenerates for life sentences. Or maybe they want them dead instead.
The "distribution" part of the bill is super easy to abuse, considering the lax chain of evidence control in our "justice" system.
We already have strong laws against the shit, the problem is getting politicians elected that actually ENFORCE the law.
This is a distraction - they didn't pass vote security bills and instead distract you with this power fantasy.
I'm conflicted on this thread, since I absolutely despise pedos and want the producers of the shit to get exiled to a barren island, but do not want to give the state so much power.
So does this mean 16 year olds taking certain kinds of pictures of themselves get them sent to prison for life now? Technically that would be production.
I would hope they would be smart enough to craft the bill in such a way that it wouldn't put kids doing stupid things in prison for life. But who knows, politicians aren't always the brightest people.
I hope all States follow suit. The idea that these monsters do not hurt the children for life, has been proven incorrect by the financial awards against the Catholic Church. The victims of these Priests don't seem to have ever healed.
The infiltration of commie pedoes in the Catholic Church is nothing compared to how much theyve infiltrated every single apsect of western civilization. And thats saying something, considering the current Pope is a commie and therefore not Catholic.
It is no longer necessary to give him the lethal injection, now they only give him the vaccine for the Chinese virus and in the end it works the same as the lethal injection
So my best friend works for a film company, he says Hollywood is freaking out and pulling out of Arizona and looking for other locations to film. Why all of a sudden? They fuck, produce, and distribute child pornography while trafficking these poor babies. He's in charge of inventory and he's taking his time; ya know, making triple sure everything is documented lol. This costs them hundreds of thousands a day. He doesn't care he has his own company brewing in the works.
Fuck these people, these evil, sick twisted fucks.
Phoenix is the kidnapping capital of the world, second only to Mexico city last time I checked. This bill is great, but they need strict border enforcement as most of that human trafficking is from Central/South america.
As this Is good start and the end result for true Pedophilia is to hang them.
I would have preferred a better and more cheaper solution..
Cut off their balls and let them go back into society . They won't rape or touch children again and they can still pay their fair taxes instead of using taxpayers money to just sit and do nothing.
My only objection is that they aren't simply executed. Such filth should not be allowed to be a burden on the taxpayers.
a bullet is a lot cheaper than life in prison
And safer. Prisons help network and train the left's goons.
I'm pretty sure a life sentence in prison for a pedophile usually isn't a very long sentence.
yes they are, and more expensive due to medical costs, suicide, them getting raped, beat etc and isolation. they costs upwards of 100,000+ per year to keep alive and safe just to rot.
castration, and the wheel would be a good start
He's saying they tend to get murdered by other inmates fairly quickly
Yeah I don't think that's true anymore. I talk to a bunch of LEO's who work in prisons and they say sex crime inmates are kept separately so it's not like it was in the old days when they REALLY had it rough in prison.
It's not really true anymore. Unfortunately.
"Shoot me" manlet managed to last over a decade in federal prison before he got Kyled.
Unless they're pedos, then they just kill them, without the expensive appeals process. Or at least they do if the pedos are put into the general population (which they should be).
Why should convicted pedos not get their appeals? We still get convictions wrong with murder.
It actually isn't, life in prison is about 10x cheaper than execution.
Which is ridiculous. Hell, I'll execute a pedo with my machetes in 10 seconds for free. Where comes the cost from?! Ridiculous.
Let the government handle shit, and watch how costs explode and efficiency is minuscule.
Gotta prove the NSA didn’t plant evidence on their PC.
The cost comes from every single person's right to a fair trial including all the appeals that come along with that.
Even with that we still get it wrong sometimes which is unacceptable.
If you are at a point where execution is considered, you are already in prison for life. So we are not talking about costs of trials before that. You said it's 10 times cheaper to incarcerate and feed them for LIFE while they are barred from productivity than to execute them.
So either keeping them alive and incarcerated is dirt cheap, or executions are unbelievably much more expensive than necessary.
Sure technically execution is a life sentence but not of your natural life.
And the latter is true, executions are incredibly expensive due to the number of appeals and court trials that need to take place before said execution. Not to mention the increasing challenge of obtaining the correct drugs required.
Most of the time executions are just life sentences that have their costs increased dramatically due to the legal process that needs to be undertaken when deciding the fate of a human life.
Taking into account that most sentences to execution are overturned and that you will eventually kill an innocent person, the death penalty just doesnt make any sense.
New fag is a total moron.
One bullet for three rapists, so we save two bullets
dont worry we can slave labor them to death brother there is hope !
Give it time, eventually bullets will be more expensive
Time to start developing a solar powered electric chair?
Should state police execute you immediately when they plant filth on your hard drive? You want any State to have such power?
You think actual pedo scum are going to be targeted, and not dissidents like you?
Stop the power fantasies. Understand reality.
The problem is not legislation, but actual enforcement. Why did they not pass a Voter law first to ensure there are proper Executive Branch members elected to implement these laws as intended? Why the cart before the horse? Think!
Thank you.
And it's not even necessarily police frame jobs that could get you.
If an underage student sends a lewd photo to a teacher, that teacher is in possession of child porn. How easy would it be to borrow his phone for 15 seconds and forward it to someone? Because that counts as distribution.
Let's not even forget the number of women that have planted cp on their husbands computers to get favorable outcomes in family court. It's tough because it's easy to know what the right punishment is, but not so easy to know if a person is an actual criminal given how imperfect the system is. But don't worry, all the pedophiles with political connections will walk free. Honk honk.
Indeed.
What about the wrongfully convicted? Seems odd that we talk down about leftist courts/judges around here regarding some issues but support their use wholeheartedly on other matters.
Some people actually argue that death by old age is a cruel punishment. I'd rather be executed immediately after my last appeal than die of old age in prison. What's the point in waiting around for 50 years in a cell before I am executed by old age?
A life sentence is much worse for these sickos. Inmates dont tolerate pedos.
Why the fuck couldn't they pass an election integrity law?
AZ pedes need to lobby their state reps. In fact, all of us living in states with republican trifectas need to do this! I, unfortunately, live in CA. While Iowa has passed election security measures, CA will pass more election stealing measures. You can bet that "Rs" like Mike Garcia and Young Kim will be out of business 2022. Other states will need to offset this. I'm looking at you AZ and TX pedes. Also, if they can steal seats in red Georgia, they can steal seats anywhere. Whether you live in Arkansas or Montana, lobby your state reps! Make them know that this election integrity reform is at the top of your concerns!
40 counties in California use dominion machines. They need to vgo NOW!
I guess China doesn't like pedos either. Pleasant surprise
That's sad that we have them so involved in our country's politics, but I laughed at your comment. Nervous laughter.
China just executes them, no trial as usual.
There's a lot of work to be done. Doug Ducey is done for. Label me crazy but I think Arizona will turn their ship around.
Because this is an easier distraction
All fun and games until the feds “find” something on your PC because you were a political dissenter
This. CP distribution is too easy to plant false charges for. I loath giving feds the ability to raid your house, especially if your mom's scrapbook pictures of you in the bathtub at age 2 are deemed Child Pornography.
And nobody will believe you
And they ruin your life over it. Making Child Porn should 100% be illegal, but porn isnt clearly defined and is so open to interpretation that it gives the state too much power. Personally I think rooting out and punishing pedophiles should be done by civilians, not feds. The crime is so severe and degenerate that the only punishment suitable enough is medieval.
I legit believe that they have planted it on political enemies at times
I guess you missed the whistleblower interview Lin Wood released. They have 100% planted child porn on people’s computers.
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2021/03/06/linn-wood-whistleblower-connects-very-important-dot-on-deep-state-surveillance-and-rosenstein-activity-with-fbi-to-compromise-people/
What, like people cant be misled by other people? Atleast with the government some semblance of due process needs to be given.
Yup just watch a guy in a crowd hit a girl back out of self defense while she hits him nonstop until he finally reacts. Nobody does shit about a girl assaulting a man, but soon as he's forced to strike back, they all jump him.
The same would easily be done to us with a simple false accusation.
I really hope this isn't an unpopular opinion, but people shouldn't be taking pictures of their kids (or anybody else's for that matter) naked in the tub or anywhere. I'm not calling it cp exactly as the pics were, hopefully, not taken in a sexual manner, but very inappropriate. I mean, who are you taking these pictures for? To show off to your friends on facebook? Come on, man!
Its a weird mom thing. I dont understand it either.
Parenthood literally changes the way your brain works, for example the disgust center of your brain deactivates when you're changing diapers and such. I could see something similar happening when sex and your child is involved, like mothers probably don't even see their kids except as asexual creatures. That might also be why they're good at raising kids, but terrible at raising teenagers.
I see it becoming the 2020 version of "sprinkle some crack on em"
Come on man, you can't threaten the government by being a pedophile but you can as a dissenter
No joke. Read the transcripts from the Lin Wood whistleblower interview that dropped last week. Bunch of evil fucks.
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2021/03/06/linn-wood-whistleblower-connects-very-important-dot-on-deep-state-surveillance-and-rosenstein-activity-with-fbi-to-compromise-people/
State Rep. Hannley, who called herself “the Bernie Sanders of Tucson with Hillary Clinton’s gender issues” during her campaign in Tuscon’s Legislative District 9, was the only member of the Arizona House to vote against the bill, seemingly decrying it as racist in her explanation.
Thank you.
Sounds like the most unlikeable cunt alive, and yes I'm aware of <insert female "comedian">.
Kamala isn't that funny
Totally for this, though I'd like to know some 17 year old couple isn't in prison for life for swapping nudes. Anyone see the details?
Not to mention that the crime of rape of a minor usually has no requirement that you have reason to believe the person to be underage.
The guy who invented the 3D printed gun got honeypotted by the FBI on a dating site for sugar-daddies. The girl had a fake ID saying she was 18. But since the law didn't care, the guy is now going to prison for a long time because the girl was actually only 16.
These laws can have some serious unintended consequences.
Or are they intended?
Actually he's not going to jail at all. He got 7 years probation
That's still a long time for being tricked.
Oh ok. I guess Texas laws are different than some places. He was still forced to relinquish control over his company, right?
Well, I think he was able to get a good plea deal. According to Wiki it was only third-degree "injury to a child," and he also registered as a sex offender. I think he stepped away from the limelight on his own, but I'm not sure
Kids sending nudes to each other are about to get life in prison 😂
Now watch as the FBI claims jurisdiction in every Arizona trafficking case and sets the perps free while sending the victims to work on one of Hickman's egg farms.
they’d only release the illegal perps. otherwise they’d be racist...
Whose the 1......I’d keep my eye on that pedo...
There could be valid reasons to oppose the bill. It could be someone extremely principled who is worried about someone being set-up or falsely accused having their life stripped away. Or maybe they don't want to absorb the enormous cost of housing these degenerates for life sentences. Or maybe they want them dead instead.
The "distribution" part of the bill is super easy to abuse, considering the lax chain of evidence control in our "justice" system.
We already have strong laws against the shit, the problem is getting politicians elected that actually ENFORCE the law.
This is a distraction - they didn't pass vote security bills and instead distract you with this power fantasy.
I'm conflicted on this thread, since I absolutely despise pedos and want the producers of the shit to get exiled to a barren island, but do not want to give the state so much power.
So does this mean 16 year olds taking certain kinds of pictures of themselves get them sent to prison for life now? Technically that would be production.
I would hope they would be smart enough to craft the bill in such a way that it wouldn't put kids doing stupid things in prison for life. But who knows, politicians aren't always the brightest people.
This is the info that I want to knowZ which elected official is pro pedo. The fact that no politician had the balls to drop a name....,shameful
So in AZ the Alphabet boys just need to plant some pics on your phone/computer and your ass is done, done.
You people cheering for more government are fucking stupid and are going to get exactly what you are wishing for.
Immediately thought: "who tf is the 1!?"
AZ will never have another Hollywood movie filmed there and the fbi/cia/dnc are running scared. Sounds like a nice place to live.
And we all know with pedos it's a short life sentence in jail.
I hope all States follow suit. The idea that these monsters do not hurt the children for life, has been proven incorrect by the financial awards against the Catholic Church. The victims of these Priests don't seem to have ever healed.
You know how easy it's gonna be for the FBI to start framing conservative activists? We need to rein in the feds first.
I emailed my Florida House Rep and Senator the text of the bill and asked them to pass this in Florida: https://legiscan.com/AZ/text/HB2889/id/2279936
The infiltration of commie pedoes in the Catholic Church is nothing compared to how much theyve infiltrated every single apsect of western civilization. And thats saying something, considering the current Pope is a commie and therefore not Catholic.
The only problem is: Can you trust the police and courts to only convict pedos, or do you think they are framing patriots?
Someone report Joe and Hunter.
US Marshall's can begin tracking out of state transports starting ..... NOW !
Send them to the gallows.
One strike.
Biasiucci is Gunny Borrelli’s protege and one of the guys that stepped up trying to force some transparency during the hearings with Mayor Rudy
I wanna know what Commie scum voted against it.
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Yep see it now.
Death penalty for pedos or you're not allowed to claim you're based
Wouldn't a .22LR be cheaper?
Hell yeah this is what we need.
FINALLY. Man, Arizona would put you away for life for a joint of pot for a long time, glad to see them putting actual criminals away now.
we are literally surrounded by them here. Look up the map for the phoenix/mesa sex offenders and become sad at the thousands of dots.
Castration should be included.
I agree!
And no possibility of parole.
It is no longer necessary to give him the lethal injection, now they only give him the vaccine for the Chinese virus and in the end it works the same as the lethal injection
THANK YOU JESUS!
Research has shown that pedos CAN’T be rehabilitated. Why keep them...?
Now do regular human trafficking
They say "Sex traffickers," I hear "illegal immigrant." This is how you screw the feds.
So my best friend works for a film company, he says Hollywood is freaking out and pulling out of Arizona and looking for other locations to film. Why all of a sudden? They fuck, produce, and distribute child pornography while trafficking these poor babies. He's in charge of inventory and he's taking his time; ya know, making triple sure everything is documented lol. This costs them hundreds of thousands a day. He doesn't care he has his own company brewing in the works.
Fuck these people, these evil, sick twisted fucks.
Does anyone know how to expose child pornography on the Democrats computers?
Asking for a friend.
Who’s the one person that voted against??
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They'll kill the kid they just molested so they can't tell anyone. Just saying.
Can't the FBI now just swoop in and toss cp on people's computers in AZ and take people out for life then?
NO JAIL FOR LIFE if convicted they get either the ELECTRIC CHAIR or the FIRING SQUAD WITH 21 GUNS
But what about a bullet?
Who was the person that voted against it? get rid of them now.
put them in the fucking ground.
I love it
Hunter Biden won't be arrested in AZ if he goes. This is more grandstanding.
Hunter Biden should have been in jail years ago.
Phoenix is the kidnapping capital of the world, second only to Mexico city last time I checked. This bill is great, but they need strict border enforcement as most of that human trafficking is from Central/South america.
Why should we be paying for the incarceration of pedos for life? They should be executed.
execute them... that's punishment.
As this Is good start and the end result for true Pedophilia is to hang them.
I would have preferred a better and more cheaper solution..
Cut off their balls and let them go back into society . They won't rape or touch children again and they can still pay their fair taxes instead of using taxpayers money to just sit and do nothing.