People have been saying that since the 60's. The CIA has gotten really good at propaganda in 60 years. Its likely the normies, at least most of them, never wake up. You've likely seen it in your own families. You can show them all the facts and counter-arguments you want. They'll find a way to dismiss you and trust CNN over even evidence they can see with their own eyes.
People act like everyone will wake up once it gets bad enough, but that's a fairy tale. Look at Roger Stone. He was an ally of the SITTING PRESIDENT and he was arrested by a full tactical team at dawn with automatic weapons. And for what? Because Congress said he lied to them about knowing a contact at Wikileaks. An old man was marched out of his house at gunpoint for allegedly telling a lie and then forbidden from speaking publicly about the charges against him.
Michael Flynn was prosecuted for 4 years for supposedly telling a lie that the government itself was forced to admit wasn't a lie.
These are two well-known people who were close to the President. They still got railroaded by the State. And nobody did anything. Most normies cheered.
You're crazy if you think anything will rouse those people. When the government starts shooting their neighbors they won't take up arms, they'll shrug and say they must have been domestic terrorists.
I don't think so. Pence isn't even popular with his target demographic (evangelicals). He was the VP because the GOP thought Trump had no chance and they didn't want to waste anyone with a future as his VP.
Pence is finished. The GOP is 100% going to push a woman in 2024 and right now that means Nikki Haley.
If Trump runs, there will be no primary. It's dead money, and not even the Lincoln Project grifters will try to oppose him.
Now, if Trump doesn't run, the DeSantis will lap the field and it won't be close. MAGA runs the party now, especially now that we've got the Precinct seats.
I like DeSantis too, but he doesn't have the connections Trump has. Trump didn't have to play the RINO's game because he had his own money and his own megaphone. The media was dying to give him free air time.
DeSantis isn't rich and he (frankly speaking) isn't entertaining. If the GOP refuses to support him, he'd lose the primary badly.
That's why I love that Trump is fighting the civil war now. Get rid of the RINOs ASAP and make sure the party is united around MAGA no matter who runs in 2024.
This. I didn't like him at all just bad vibes at first, but Trump trusted him so I did too. I even listened to him speak a few times and thought he sounded like a good ol boy. He was Judas the whole time it seems.
Understood, I’m just supposing that for 2024, the stops that will be pulled (again) in opposition to Trump.
If you have a “wide open” primary, which you will, Trump is the obvious, obvious, guy. Msm, and whoever else thinks they have the levers of control will try mightily to put anyone else in, that’s my reference to Jeb! Thank god for the people.
Pretty much every major hire Trump made was a misstep. I'll cut him so slack on the cabinet confirmed positions because he had to get the RINOs on board or end up using a career employee (95% of being a hardcore Democrat).
I think his biggest mistake was not hiring people where he could from completely outside government and corporate America. He campaigned on being an outsider, but he pretty much never tried to hire other outsiders.
I told my wife in 2016 that Trump was going to struggle. He's worked his entire life in his own company surrounded by people who want to succeed and to make the company succeed. That's the polar opposite of what you find in government. Government workers think that working hard will just mean you get more work. And government leaders know they won't be there more than a few years so they use that time to enrich themselves. There's no way he was prepared for the ineptitude and conniving schemers that populate our government.
I'm sorry but someone has to say it. Trump misjudged a lot of people and constantly gave the wrong people critical jobs. Don't get me wrong, I'll take a Trump in plenty of situations over many people but when it came to cleaning house he really pooched the job. :-(
How could Mike Pence betray Trump when he gave him so much power and opportunities to shine so he would be ready when Trump left office?
Traitor.
Fauci and Brix are supposed to be impartial. Their job is about working for the greater good. Unfortunately when the whole system is so corrupted even those everyone once held in high regard turn out to be corrupt.
I think the key mistake of the Trump Administration is that he didn't clear house when he got in to the office. He should have fired everybody... and in 2025, it will be glorious when he does. I think he learned his lesson from his first 4 years. These next 4 years will synergize us, his base, and Bidens base will continue to bail on him. Trump will introduce common sense and society norms that are not "men can get pregnant" which will resonate with a ton of people who are fighting massive inflation.
Trump will win in 2025, enter office and immediately fire everybody, then surround himself with people who are 100% Trumpers.
Yeah it’s going to get pretty lit when the normies wake up and realize the hell they voted for.
People have been saying that since the 60's. The CIA has gotten really good at propaganda in 60 years. Its likely the normies, at least most of them, never wake up. You've likely seen it in your own families. You can show them all the facts and counter-arguments you want. They'll find a way to dismiss you and trust CNN over even evidence they can see with their own eyes.
People act like everyone will wake up once it gets bad enough, but that's a fairy tale. Look at Roger Stone. He was an ally of the SITTING PRESIDENT and he was arrested by a full tactical team at dawn with automatic weapons. And for what? Because Congress said he lied to them about knowing a contact at Wikileaks. An old man was marched out of his house at gunpoint for allegedly telling a lie and then forbidden from speaking publicly about the charges against him.
Michael Flynn was prosecuted for 4 years for supposedly telling a lie that the government itself was forced to admit wasn't a lie.
These are two well-known people who were close to the President. They still got railroaded by the State. And nobody did anything. Most normies cheered.
You're crazy if you think anything will rouse those people. When the government starts shooting their neighbors they won't take up arms, they'll shrug and say they must have been domestic terrorists.
100% the libs are so far gone that if the gov started killing us they would cheer
And I think there's still ~30-40% who are still asleep and on neither "side". They don't know the Elites are against them, but they will.
We should probably keep reaching out to them.
The Marxists aren't as abundant as the MSM tries to portray. They're just REALLY loud and annoying.
You don't even need to speculate on that. They murdered that woman at the Capitol and liberals celebrated on twitter.
HUH??
440,000 Votes in George and no one fucking knows where those votes came from.
How many other States have the same issue? Probably ALL of them.
We're still trying to avoid that, but I think the likelihood that you're correct grows by the day.
Step 1: Identify the corruption. Step 2: Cut their funding. Step 3: ??? Step 4: Profit
The corruption is easy to identify. Do they work for the government in some capacity? They are corrupt.
Are they related to someone in gov't? Corrupt.
I don't think so. Pence isn't even popular with his target demographic (evangelicals). He was the VP because the GOP thought Trump had no chance and they didn't want to waste anyone with a future as his VP.
Pence is finished. The GOP is 100% going to push a woman in 2024 and right now that means Nikki Haley.
If Trump runs, there will be no primary. It's dead money, and not even the Lincoln Project grifters will try to oppose him.
Now, if Trump doesn't run, the DeSantis will lap the field and it won't be close. MAGA runs the party now, especially now that we've got the Precinct seats.
I like DeSantis too, but he doesn't have the connections Trump has. Trump didn't have to play the RINO's game because he had his own money and his own megaphone. The media was dying to give him free air time.
DeSantis isn't rich and he (frankly speaking) isn't entertaining. If the GOP refuses to support him, he'd lose the primary badly.
That's why I love that Trump is fighting the civil war now. Get rid of the RINOs ASAP and make sure the party is united around MAGA no matter who runs in 2024.
If we haven't cleaned up the GOP enough by 2024 for DeSantis to win as a MAGA candidate, then I don't think we'll have elections anymore by then.
hahaha, if the GOP is retarded enough to push Haley, well then fuck them.
They are
worst part is i thought that pence was the "gentle" alternative before i saw his traitor colors
This. I didn't like him at all just bad vibes at first, but Trump trusted him so I did too. I even listened to him speak a few times and thought he sounded like a good ol boy. He was Judas the whole time it seems.
He made Kamala look like a total bitch at the VP debates, so that to me reaffirmed the thought that he was based
I could even see msm, via Paul Ryan et al, promoting him like a watered down version of Jeb!
Alas, theoretically, the people’s voice still counts.
I doubt that. The base has been burned severely hard. People are going to remember 2020 for a long time to come.
I honestly can't see it. The betrayal was so bad I think people will just not buy into the fear hype anymore.
Understood, I’m just supposing that for 2024, the stops that will be pulled (again) in opposition to Trump.
If you have a “wide open” primary, which you will, Trump is the obvious, obvious, guy. Msm, and whoever else thinks they have the levers of control will try mightily to put anyone else in, that’s my reference to Jeb! Thank god for the people.
I love Trump but Pence was a misstep. That's not the end though.
Pretty much every major hire Trump made was a misstep. I'll cut him so slack on the cabinet confirmed positions because he had to get the RINOs on board or end up using a career employee (95% of being a hardcore Democrat).
I think his biggest mistake was not hiring people where he could from completely outside government and corporate America. He campaigned on being an outsider, but he pretty much never tried to hire other outsiders.
I think Trump expects people to give their all because he always gives his all, unfortunately most people never give their all. Sad reality.
I told my wife in 2016 that Trump was going to struggle. He's worked his entire life in his own company surrounded by people who want to succeed and to make the company succeed. That's the polar opposite of what you find in government. Government workers think that working hard will just mean you get more work. And government leaders know they won't be there more than a few years so they use that time to enrich themselves. There's no way he was prepared for the ineptitude and conniving schemers that populate our government.
I'm sorry but someone has to say it. Trump misjudged a lot of people and constantly gave the wrong people critical jobs. Don't get me wrong, I'll take a Trump in plenty of situations over many people but when it came to cleaning house he really pooched the job. :-(
Bolton was my first eye opener. I was truly going WTF!!!!!
The swamp has only grown and gotten stronger unfortunately.
The only positive out of this is that Pence is forever done. The problem is that there are so many Pence's out there. :-/
How could Mike Pence betray Trump when he gave him so much power and opportunities to shine so he would be ready when Trump left office? Traitor.
Fauci and Brix are supposed to be impartial. Their job is about working for the greater good. Unfortunately when the whole system is so corrupted even those everyone once held in high regard turn out to be corrupt.
Silver Fox got us, fam.
I think the key mistake of the Trump Administration is that he didn't clear house when he got in to the office. He should have fired everybody... and in 2025, it will be glorious when he does. I think he learned his lesson from his first 4 years. These next 4 years will synergize us, his base, and Bidens base will continue to bail on him. Trump will introduce common sense and society norms that are not "men can get pregnant" which will resonate with a ton of people who are fighting massive inflation.
Trump will win in 2025, enter office and immediately fire everybody, then surround himself with people who are 100% Trumpers.
As an atheist, I pray the above happens...
TIL that complete abdication of duty = "showing us who they are"
That's blaming the victim. Pence back stabbed Trump in the back. Trump may have eagle eyes but he doesn't have eyes in his back.