No one cared when it was sex changes. But now it's targeting our children. If 20% of GenZ is LGBT, that means 20% of the future of the species is going to be high risk of suicide and unlikely to breed. That's without even getting into the Pedophiles, rapists, and perverts ruining sports for girls.
That's a pretty big deal, especially when that ratio is only going to getting worse. That's is society ending levels Degeneracy.
They're an easy target for intellectually lazy people to spread fear propaganda about.
Even if you made everything they want legal tomorrow most people will never have to deal with one for their entire lives, or if they do no more than in passing once or twice.
This idea that men will take over women's sports is absurd, sure a few low moral people may cross over so they can win, but not like they'd have you believe. Most men who want to compete take pride in being men and competing with men, so pretending to be a woman simply to win competitions is beneath them.
The left just uses them as another chip in their attack on traditional culture in America.
Apparently you haven't been paying attention to what's been happening lately. The slippery slope was actually a bobsled run, and we are hurtling toward a literal finish line out of control. Wake up.
"This idea that men will take over women's sports is absurd, sure a few low moral people may cross over so they can win, but not like they'd have you believe."
this is provably false.
even low ranked male athletes outperform elite female athletes by a large margin. even if 1% of 1% of male athletes use the trans avenue to compete as females, they will take all the podium positions from natural females.
In reality, the % will be much higher due to the narcissistic nature of trophy hunters in sports.
That's like saying you don't believe the Yugo exists. They may not be your taste in automobiles, but they certainly do exist, in very small numbers and it's unlikely you will see one anytime soon.
No that's like him saying "I don't believe unicorns exist" and you saying "Yes they do, they're very rare, but people have added prosthetic horns to their horses making them unicorns."
It's a disagreement over the meaning of the term unicorn.
Gender dysphoria, for which the current treatment is hormones and surgery, because as John Money's failed and heinous experiment proved, you cannot change the mind's perception of gender, whatever it is that hardwires that into the brain can't be changed. So they change the body to match the mind, as best science can manage.
That is a real thing, much like a Yugo is a real car.
The current treatment you described is the last thing a doctor should do to their patient.
There are other body dysphoria conditions, and their treatments are not to indulge the person’s delusion. So, why is this so special? Mental illness is mental illness.
If I believe that my left foot doesn’t belong on my body the treatment is not to cut it off.
I didn’t say that. I’m asking you why it’s different in the instance of alphabet weirdos?
Hundreds of doctors would also agree that if I have a different form of body dysphoria the solution would not me to indulge my delusion, and do whatever it is I want done.
You’re dodging the question, and ignoring my example. Why don’t you try something different than deflecting onto your own perception of authority, which you likely haven’t earned either?
Well, that's not exactly true. The notion of self perception of gender isn't proven. It could be a delusion, in the same vein as schizophrenics believing they are Jesus Christ. In addition, while we do know that the one's that transition have brains that are morphologically more female, we also know that the one's that don't have brains that look more male, and could just have autogynophilia.
You just shot a hole in your case, if they have more female brains then it makes sense to give them more feminine bodies. And vice versa, since y'all seem to forget that some women believe they are male.
Not really, just because you feel like you're female, doesn't mean you are female. Transitioning doesn't make them female, it only makes them approximate the female form, which is why they kill themselves at just as high a rate as before transitioning. What they actually need is therapy that will help them learn to accept that they aren't female, and can never become female, even if it's not possible to stop them from wanting to be female. This is not a "pray away the gay" type scenario, this is helping fix a delusion (clinically speaking, not colloquially) they have.
Heckin valid conservative. Red pilled and based trannies. All the bigots here saying trannies are mentally ill need to get out!! This forum is for progressive conservatives to revel in degeneracy.
You superstraights!! How dare you!! Trannies are heckin valid okay?!
Here is a cultist response and how they operate. There was never a term "transsexual", so the cult invented it in insidious way to normalize and redefine standard sexuality like they do with all aspects of culture.
They is no such thing as "transexual', only individuals with sexual related mental and/or physical birth defects.
So the medical community, the texts, the dictionaries that all list this as a thing are wrong, and you, some nobody on the internet with an opinion, are right?
So then by your argument it's okay to say there's no God, either, right? I mean I can show you more proof that transsexual is a thing than you can show me evidence that God exists.
I'm not saying you have to like it or approve of it, but to simply refuse to believe a thing exists because you disagree with it is absurd bordering on batshit insane.
I wasn’t denying that it is. We are disagreeing on the definition of it.
I agree with the OP, there is no such thing as a trans woman. There is only a mentally ill man suffering from gender dysphoria. Not that mentally ill men with gender dysphoria don’t exist.
Did you lose track and think you were talking to the same person who said they don’t acknowledge it?
The field of psychology which propogates this marxist insanity are pushing an agenda, not science. In fact actual scientists who don't carry the party line in attempting to normalize this insanity are blackballed but never proven scientifically incorrect. That is a fact.
Your God comparison is laughable as your use of the cult term "transexual". I am an atheist so sorry I don't believe in a God.
I am not arguing that poor individuals are suffering from sexual related mental and physical defects, I am arguing against your disgusting need to normalize and force everybody to play along with your degenerate fairy tale...or else.
It is beyond evil. If you really cared about these people you would be pushing for a cure, instead you like to have them around as your court jesters. You are like the women that insist that we breed pugs so you can dress them and put them in your purse while never giving a damn the poor animal can barely breath thanks to purposely abnormal breeding for YOUR enjoyment.
Incorrect, and you don't have the experience to say otherwise. Look at my comments and you will see I never defend attempts to normalize it, but there are certainly defects
There are infants born with both sex organs, some with deformed sex organs, some missing, and sometimes missing all together. Ask any nurse who works in a nursery or nicu.
To me that would be a horrible existence so ultimately I have compassion for these individuals and feel we should be finding a cure instead of normalizing the defects.
Intersex individuals are not what we are talking about. Those poor souls have physical birth defects and need medical assistance to live a life that works for them. Choosing to remove functional testes and create a front hole out of a penis is not correcting a birth defect. It is indulging mental illness and lowering the value of womanliness to purely external characteristics.
Do we teach mentally retarded people it's ok to be retarded or teach them to not be?
Do we teach blind or deaf people to sit around and do nothing or teach them how to operate in the world with their defects?
Do any of these teach that everyone must be as they are or like them for how they are or they are bigots? No.
So in like manner anyone who has a twisted or perverted sense of sexuality they need to change their ways no matter what it is. And hermaphrodites don't count.
Ohhh and btw all people are born with body parts from either their female mother or male father. Everyone. But if you got a twig and berries or don't then you are going to be and should be held to walk and talk like whatever it is that you have. To do so otherwise is a life of lies and dishonesty. To yourself and to others.
Stonetoss does this for free btw. He's a hero of anti-pc. Once in a podcast he pointed out he's completely normal and plain looking. You could walk right past stonetoss without knowing it was him.
This leftist culture is actually trying to force men into having biologically homosexual intercourse by shaming them if they don't. It's not right
I am not super straight, and you can read that however you will, but I dont' think super straight people are bigots for not being straight. If you catch my meaning. If trans people want tolerance, they can begin by practicing in the foookin' mirror
Everyone needs to accept and respect each others' preferences and then get back to the much more important activity of actually helping move humanity forward
Never equate the two. He is off the mark on this. Heterosexually is the norm, and every deviation from it is a defect due to some reason. End of story.
Trans are over represented in the problems this nation faces. By a lot.
No one cared when it was sex changes. But now it's targeting our children. If 20% of GenZ is LGBT, that means 20% of the future of the species is going to be high risk of suicide and unlikely to breed. That's without even getting into the Pedophiles, rapists, and perverts ruining sports for girls.
That's a pretty big deal, especially when that ratio is only going to getting worse. That's is society ending levels Degeneracy.
They're an easy target for intellectually lazy people to spread fear propaganda about.
Even if you made everything they want legal tomorrow most people will never have to deal with one for their entire lives, or if they do no more than in passing once or twice.
This idea that men will take over women's sports is absurd, sure a few low moral people may cross over so they can win, but not like they'd have you believe. Most men who want to compete take pride in being men and competing with men, so pretending to be a woman simply to win competitions is beneath them.
The left just uses them as another chip in their attack on traditional culture in America.
Apparently you're blissfully unaware of modern society. It doesn't reflect the image you have in your head.
I don't know the liberals seem to be okay with it.
Frankly I hate both sides for various reasons they're both stupid
Apparently you haven't been paying attention to what's been happening lately. The slippery slope was actually a bobsled run, and we are hurtling toward a literal finish line out of control. Wake up.
"This idea that men will take over women's sports is absurd, sure a few low moral people may cross over so they can win, but not like they'd have you believe."
this is provably false.
even low ranked male athletes outperform elite female athletes by a large margin. even if 1% of 1% of male athletes use the trans avenue to compete as females, they will take all the podium positions from natural females.
In reality, the % will be much higher due to the narcissistic nature of trophy hunters in sports.
I would never tell someone I don't date trans women... I'd simply say "I don't date men." cause I don't believe trans exists.
"That's amazing you lived long enough to tell me you're a retarded faggot."
That's like saying you don't believe the Yugo exists. They may not be your taste in automobiles, but they certainly do exist, in very small numbers and it's unlikely you will see one anytime soon.
No that's like him saying "I don't believe unicorns exist" and you saying "Yes they do, they're very rare, but people have added prosthetic horns to their horses making them unicorns."
It's a disagreement over the meaning of the term unicorn.
Trans people don't exist.
There is only mental illness.
Gender dysphoria, for which the current treatment is hormones and surgery, because as John Money's failed and heinous experiment proved, you cannot change the mind's perception of gender, whatever it is that hardwires that into the brain can't be changed. So they change the body to match the mind, as best science can manage.
That is a real thing, much like a Yugo is a real car.
The current treatment you described is the last thing a doctor should do to their patient.
There are other body dysphoria conditions, and their treatments are not to indulge the person’s delusion. So, why is this so special? Mental illness is mental illness.
If I believe that my left foot doesn’t belong on my body the treatment is not to cut it off.
So you know better than the doctors do?
That's what makes me laugh the most. People with zero knowledge saying they have the answers and hundreds of doctors are all obviously wrong.
I didn’t say that. I’m asking you why it’s different in the instance of alphabet weirdos?
Hundreds of doctors would also agree that if I have a different form of body dysphoria the solution would not me to indulge my delusion, and do whatever it is I want done.
You’re dodging the question, and ignoring my example. Why don’t you try something different than deflecting onto your own perception of authority, which you likely haven’t earned either?
Well, that's not exactly true. The notion of self perception of gender isn't proven. It could be a delusion, in the same vein as schizophrenics believing they are Jesus Christ. In addition, while we do know that the one's that transition have brains that are morphologically more female, we also know that the one's that don't have brains that look more male, and could just have autogynophilia.
You just shot a hole in your case, if they have more female brains then it makes sense to give them more feminine bodies. And vice versa, since y'all seem to forget that some women believe they are male.
Not really, just because you feel like you're female, doesn't mean you are female. Transitioning doesn't make them female, it only makes them approximate the female form, which is why they kill themselves at just as high a rate as before transitioning. What they actually need is therapy that will help them learn to accept that they aren't female, and can never become female, even if it's not possible to stop them from wanting to be female. This is not a "pray away the gay" type scenario, this is helping fix a delusion (clinically speaking, not colloquially) they have.
Heckin valid conservative. Red pilled and based trannies. All the bigots here saying trannies are mentally ill need to get out!! This forum is for progressive conservatives to revel in degeneracy.
You superstraights!! How dare you!! Trannies are heckin valid okay?!
Bernie can still win!!
Literally not what it proved. It proved that a boy is a boy is a boy; biology rules, and no amount of surgery and 'socialization' can change that.
Here is a cultist response and how they operate. There was never a term "transsexual", so the cult invented it in insidious way to normalize and redefine standard sexuality like they do with all aspects of culture.
They is no such thing as "transexual', only individuals with sexual related mental and/or physical birth defects.
So the medical community, the texts, the dictionaries that all list this as a thing are wrong, and you, some nobody on the internet with an opinion, are right?
So then by your argument it's okay to say there's no God, either, right? I mean I can show you more proof that transsexual is a thing than you can show me evidence that God exists.
I'm not saying you have to like it or approve of it, but to simply refuse to believe a thing exists because you disagree with it is absurd bordering on batshit insane.
The only thing here that’s absurd, bordering on batshit insane, are people who think they’re not the sex they were born as.
Then the campaign to force people to accept them as anything other than what they are, which is mentally ill.
Ahh, so we admit that that actually is a thing.
I wasn’t denying that it is. We are disagreeing on the definition of it.
I agree with the OP, there is no such thing as a trans woman. There is only a mentally ill man suffering from gender dysphoria. Not that mentally ill men with gender dysphoria don’t exist.
Did you lose track and think you were talking to the same person who said they don’t acknowledge it?
The field of psychology which propogates this marxist insanity are pushing an agenda, not science. In fact actual scientists who don't carry the party line in attempting to normalize this insanity are blackballed but never proven scientifically incorrect. That is a fact.
Your God comparison is laughable as your use of the cult term "transexual". I am an atheist so sorry I don't believe in a God.
I am not arguing that poor individuals are suffering from sexual related mental and physical defects, I am arguing against your disgusting need to normalize and force everybody to play along with your degenerate fairy tale...or else.
It is beyond evil. If you really cared about these people you would be pushing for a cure, instead you like to have them around as your court jesters. You are like the women that insist that we breed pugs so you can dress them and put them in your purse while never giving a damn the poor animal can barely breath thanks to purposely abnormal breeding for YOUR enjoyment.
No one is born that way. Then entire LGBT are a sexually Perverted mental disorder group.
.they are sick and need a doctor. Anyone who says otherwise is complacent to keeping people mentally disturbed.
Incorrect, and you don't have the experience to say otherwise. Look at my comments and you will see I never defend attempts to normalize it, but there are certainly defects
There are infants born with both sex organs, some with deformed sex organs, some missing, and sometimes missing all together. Ask any nurse who works in a nursery or nicu.
To me that would be a horrible existence so ultimately I have compassion for these individuals and feel we should be finding a cure instead of normalizing the defects.
Intersex individuals are not what we are talking about. Those poor souls have physical birth defects and need medical assistance to live a life that works for them. Choosing to remove functional testes and create a front hole out of a penis is not correcting a birth defect. It is indulging mental illness and lowering the value of womanliness to purely external characteristics.
This comment wins the internet today.
Thank you fren.
Do we teach mentally retarded people it's ok to be retarded or teach them to not be?
Do we teach blind or deaf people to sit around and do nothing or teach them how to operate in the world with their defects?
Do any of these teach that everyone must be as they are or like them for how they are or they are bigots? No.
So in like manner anyone who has a twisted or perverted sense of sexuality they need to change their ways no matter what it is. And hermaphrodites don't count.
Ohhh and btw all people are born with body parts from either their female mother or male father. Everyone. But if you got a twig and berries or don't then you are going to be and should be held to walk and talk like whatever it is that you have. To do so otherwise is a life of lies and dishonesty. To yourself and to others.
Stonetoss does this for free btw. He's a hero of anti-pc. Once in a podcast he pointed out he's completely normal and plain looking. You could walk right past stonetoss without knowing it was him.
Didn't they just legitimize rape?
Does this mean we can all jam out to Lady Gaga's "born this way" now? Cause I'm going too.
She'd flip out if her music became the Anthem Of Super-Straightness 😂
Trans 'women'... You mean men in drag?
But... you weren't born this way. Isn't that why you mutilated and sterilized your body?
Phobeophobeic
Nah, you were born a man
Perfect.
Born this way.... Required hormones and surgery to get there...
Does ANYONE?
This leftist culture is actually trying to force men into having biologically homosexual intercourse by shaming them if they don't. It's not right
I am not super straight, and you can read that however you will, but I dont' think super straight people are bigots for not being straight. If you catch my meaning. If trans people want tolerance, they can begin by practicing in the foookin' mirror
Everyone needs to accept and respect each others' preferences and then get back to the much more important activity of actually helping move humanity forward
Huh? Trans weren't born trans.
This meme is bad.
Super MAGA Straight ! The only Chad Gender !
Never equate the two. He is off the mark on this. Heterosexually is the norm, and every deviation from it is a defect due to some reason. End of story.
Never normalize a defect... Ever.
Your mom is dumb and lame........just normalized two defects. Kaboom