They're probably the same 3-letter agency employees that were telling everyone to bring a gun if they were going to D.C. on the 6th. The Mods should do a thorough examination of those accounts suggesting that.
Thank you! It's so obnoxious to hear someone say "Everybody here is cucked faggots" When most people here won't even refuse to wear a diaper on their face.
I'd bet most people here live in areas where mask rules either don't exist at all or aren't enforced.
What we're seeing here is just the usual "Somebody do something" crowd mentality. Demanding solutions, but utterly unwilling to be the first to stick their own neck out.
We need to go back to being a union of states instead of the united states. Pressure your governors to uphold the constitution and NOT FOLLOW unconstitutional federal laws.
I've been pushing back against the commies since they started fucking up everything. I've lost jobs because of it. I've walked out of work because of it. I lost my ability to have any social media accounts in my name because of it.
When you're fighting alone, it's easy to get shut down. They can't stop large groups of this.
Next time you see some fuckwad talking commie shit, get in their face and be loud about it. If you see someone else speaking up about it, support them.
The States created the Fed Gov, not the other way around.
The great thing about Nullification is that it forces this issue to be decided once and for all. It's not just a matter of Constitutional Law, but also one of willpower.
Yes because the next step after violating the constitution and our founding documents is to suddenly start respecting them and not continuing to expand the powers
Or, just hear me out here. Or. We all get involved on the most local levels we can and push our people down their throats. You know what the left has been doing for years while conservatives just pay attention to major federal elections.
That's the problem though, while you're minding your own business the country is being burned down and new families are becoming sparse because of the commie shit.
Freedom isn't free, anyone wanting to enjoy freedoms without protecting them are not deserving of freedom
This government doesn’t represent its people anymore, whatsoever.
It’s a special interest dictatorship doing the bidding of its oligarchs and for foreign nations.
We the people have lost a say. And the media gaslights half of the country into thinking everything is just peachy, while pushing wedge issues so that our ideologies just keep getting pushed further and further apart from each other so that the infighting between parties never stops.
Endless bickering between Americans while the wealthy elite class continues to steal from us and usurping right after right after right. These are grim times, and we need to come together and destroy the narratives that these media conglomerates are pushing.
We the people do have a say, go after your state government. That is the design given to us by our founders and it can and will work when enough of us stop keyboard complaining and actually pursue it.
Unless your state is blue, purple, or has a large black population. Then your vote doesn't count, your judges are corrupt, and your only legal route is the last box.
The country is going to inevitably balkanize. Look at what happens with cities like Detroit, they become hell hole slums because the ideas and opinions running them are bad, bad ideas repulse sane and intelligent people. This is natural selection at work.
Interesting. Maybe Covid has an upside after all, since lefttards are all about lockdowns and masks. They'll stay with the governors that tell them what to do.
Voting trends over the past 10-15 years suggest otherwise. Texas is turning blue, Georgia did (allegedly, but still close enough for normies to not see the blatant fraud)
Look at every single law or bill that is passed anymore through the prism of “does this take away a citizen’s rights, even just a little bit” or “this is a bribe for crony corporations or to other countries”, and things start to make a disturbing amount of sense.
It’s a special interest dictatorship doing the bidding of its oligarchs
Look at the mean age of an oligarch and our politicians.
Look at the mortality rate of covid patients in that age range.
Look at the mortality rate for the overall population.
Look at the ridiculous requirements they want to enforce to combat covid in the overall population.
Now tell me they aren't more concerned about their own asses than the general well being of the population. They will literal have everyone living in a box only taken out when needed to save their own asses.
Good, I hope they do this. It would be a major piece of fuel for a constitutional convention called by the states to significantly downsize the federal government. And very VERY long over due.
The states have been nullifying the feds for years now. We need a lot more of that but also a constitutional convention to put down what is clearly a dangerous rabid hell hound. Look up the Tenth Amendment Center run by Micheal Bolden.
Our votes get flipped by dominion or thrown out by black supremacists with no punishment whatsoever and you think we can get a convention of states going?
If someone tries to take my guns they'll have to "block" 5.56mm and .45 acp rounds.
Not threatening a soul, except enemies of the state. And when you stomp on the constitution, you're no different than any other enemy we face that deserve nothing less than a bullet.
If a gun confiscation happens most of us will have 3 choices. Be slaves. Die resisting. Die for whatever reason the state wants you too.
They will never take your guns. They know they can’t do it. They will however, make it impossible to buy guns or ammo at some point. It will continue to creep.
People don't realize that printed guns are perfectly usable. A "gun" is really just an interior frame. The pieces and ammo can be bought without invasive vetting.
There is another bill that will be coming to prevent that as well. Yes I know people can still do it. But if that bill I speak off passes then it'll make it difficult to obtain the jigs and 80%s. They are eyeing 3d printers but I don't think there are any restrictions planned for them yet. I think they have already made the files illegal to have. HR 1477 & 1454
I think they have already made the files illegal to have
Nope, first amendment prevents that. They can ban whatever they like, and all they do is incentivize people learning to produce the precursor themselves.
California made ammo hard to get an tons of people started learning to (re)load.
There are people, right now, learning to make their own primers.
Rolling and shaping brass from a sheet into a case seems impossible, but casting a bullet or priming a case seem equally impossible until you learn that presses, molds, and block lead exist.
They are creating independence from centralized industry, and they'll no more succeed at this than they did at banning drugs.
That's good to hear! I was mistaken when I thought they banned the files. I remember there was something about it a while back with Defense Distributed but I just lost track of what the final outcome was.
You answered your own question. I've said it for YEARS. Peace was never an option when facing an enemy that just kills and/or demonizes all opposition, and is COMPLETELY devoid of honor.
One of the Greatest days in my life when I was 10 years old was when my Dad trained me on how to use a 12 Gauge shot gun! Lots of laughs that day, shoulder bruised and sore but it was all worth the memories I still have today. Love my Pop God rest his soul!
Ahh man, the backlash from this government is so big, and petrol prices have been going up all around the world. Prices are up 30 - 40 cents in Australia.
I got stuck one day in an area near to the airport. And you know how if you fill up anywhere near the airport, you are talking about an extra 10 cents just for the privilege. Funny that really. Car was near the bottom of that magical 80km range where the car stops reading the actual level of petrol, and just literally counts the kilometres you travel. (I know this fact because it happened running LPG, car had plummeting range whilst not consuming petrol)
I know what will stop this. A peaceful protest. They absolutely listen to that. Maybe some 1/20/2020 Virginia LARP, but not too much. Read the Constitution. Have some guys dress in period costumes. Give some stern speeches. Just alelways, remember the optics. Would NOT want someone doing something that could cause them to take the 2A rights. Oh, and meme for sure. They totally fear memes. Hell, do all this and they may just abolish the NFA.
The sick part is that while the FBI manages the NICS database, they don't manage the entries, they are controlled by the individual States. So the "appeal" isn't really an appeal. The FBI doesn't check with the State to see if you were entered by mistake, they just double check that you are in the database.
PLO constantly makes demands and refuses to give concessions. Israel, in an effort to appease the PLO (and stop the bombings) and trying to seek peace will "compromise" and give the PLO as much as they want, only for the cycle to start all over.
now, substitute Dems for PLO and Republicans for Israel.
Once we clean house and get control and common sense back this needs to happen. Amendment to the second amendment. " Any attempt to infringe by either force or legislation of firearm or ammunition is an act of treason punishable by minimum 15 years or death".
Would definitely cause someone to hesitate to just start drawing up this asinine horseshit.
I mean, anything to make it difficult to buy a firearm
Is bullshit, but of course we’re already well past that.
My issue here is this seems to be dishonestly written. It states this is giving the FBI 10 days to process the background check. If they deny you have 10 days to appeal. The article claims this is a month? In my world a month is 30 days. So am I missing something or this bullshit.?
Not following this article. Firstly (and maybe things are different in the lefty-er states), I've never had to wait more than 5 minutes to purchase a gun. I'm sure there are places this takes longer, but I'd wager most places don't have a 3 day wait period.
Second, in what world does 10 plus 10 equal 30? There's a 10 day wait, followed by a 10 day appeal. That's not a month.
Now, don't get me wrong-every bill passed by Dems anymore SHOULD be cause for complete and total civil war, but this article is sketchy.
Edit:. Missed the "Business days" comment. I still hold that three day wait is unique at least in south west PA.
That may be. In which case, yeah it's garbage. But I didn't think government crap used"working days". I thought with silencer forms, when you sent in fingerprint cards it was "10 days" flat but I may be wrong.
Depending on the year, months typically have between 19 and 21 business days. If the ATF can spend 10 business days conducting the background check and then another 10 business days conducting an appeal, it is actually very possible that those 20 days will stretch out over a calendar month. If a purchaser wastes even one day in between his initial denial and the appeal, then you get to 21 and it is an entire calendar month.
The Background Check Form is only valid for 30 calendar days after it is submitted. Let's say you bought a gun on Dec 18 of last year, after business hours. It's Christmas week, you want to get a present for yourself. Your background check form will expire on January 17. There are 18 business days that separate the purchase date and the background check form expiration. That's because you have Christmas, New Years, Martin Luther King Day, and four weekends in between those dates. If you bought a gun Christmas week, the ATF would be able to technically run out the process so long that even if they approved you after a 20 business day process, you would have to start all over.
So let's say you go back to the gun store two days later on a Friday after work. You submit another Form 4473 and start the process over again. The FBI again uses all 10 days to give you an initial rejection. But when you get your rejection on Friday Feb 5, it comes in at the end of the day and you can't submit your appeal same-day. Well, the FBI doesn't start working appeals on weekends, so the earliest you'd be able to submit it would be the 8th. OOPS, President's day is a Federal Holiday, so even if the FBI begins processing your appeal the same day it is received, the 10 business days would bring you to Feb 22nd. Unfortunately, that is again one calendar day after your background check form expired.
It goes on and on and on and on...
When you incorporate holidays like Thanksgiving and Christmas, two of the most popular holidays for gun purchasing, it is easy to see how millions of firearm purchases per year could fall into this kind of limbo. If the bill were to pass and the ATF were to use all 20 of it's business days to stall gun purchases, they could indefinitely block a lot of gun purchases.
That may be but my point was that 3 day background checks are being described as "standard". I purchased 6 guns in 2020 and the background check took less than a minute on each. This includes rifles, shotguns and pistols.
There's a 10 day wait, followed by a 10 day appeal. That's not a month. Now, don't get me wrong-every bill passed by Dems anymore SHOULD be cause for complete and total civil war, but this article is sketchy.
No, you just didn't read carefully. The article clearly says 10 BUSINESS days. 10 business days is two weeks. If you appeal, that is ANOTHER 10 business days, ie. two more weeks. That's 4 weeks altogether, which is approximately one month.
I want these commies out of my country.
Not gonna happen as long as we are too cucked to get loud.
We're the majority. They're the minority. Who's louder and who's getting their way?
Agreed 99% of conservatives have no stones.
The only kind of stones they'll ever have is kidney stones.
Cajones are drawers.
Cojones are balls.
Not a problem, my man. I’m fluent in Spanish and even for me, the ‘o’ comes out sounding like an ‘a’ sometimes.
Get cops and Feds to fuck off, and watch the magic happen.
"What makes the grass grow?"
-R. Lee Ermey, Full Metal Jacket
blood blood blood......
What do we do for a living, ladies?
Why would we need to get loud when all you have to do is nullify the law at the state level?
For that matter, why do people who complain about "us not getting loud" never seem to be the first ones willing to do it?
They're probably the same 3-letter agency employees that were telling everyone to bring a gun if they were going to D.C. on the 6th. The Mods should do a thorough examination of those accounts suggesting that.
Thank you! It's so obnoxious to hear someone say "Everybody here is cucked faggots" When most people here won't even refuse to wear a diaper on their face.
I'd bet most people here live in areas where mask rules either don't exist at all or aren't enforced.
What we're seeing here is just the usual "Somebody do something" crowd mentality. Demanding solutions, but utterly unwilling to be the first to stick their own neck out.
We need to go back to being a union of states instead of the united states. Pressure your governors to uphold the constitution and NOT FOLLOW unconstitutional federal laws.
Indeed.
And the two most powerful tools we have for that are State Nullification and a Convention of States.
I've been pushing back against the commies since they started fucking up everything. I've lost jobs because of it. I've walked out of work because of it. I lost my ability to have any social media accounts in my name because of it.
When you're fighting alone, it's easy to get shut down. They can't stop large groups of this.
Next time you see some fuckwad talking commie shit, get in their face and be loud about it. If you see someone else speaking up about it, support them.
This just in: Random stranger on the internet spins colorful yarn hoping people believe him.
Because the step after is to federally nulify states rights.
The States created the Fed Gov, not the other way around.
The great thing about Nullification is that it forces this issue to be decided once and for all. It's not just a matter of Constitutional Law, but also one of willpower.
Yes because the next step after violating the constitution and our founding documents is to suddenly start respecting them and not continuing to expand the powers
Have you thought through how they'd enforce that with 20+ sovereign states standing up to them?
DC does not have the power they pretend they do.
Seems inherantly obvious nobody will stand up to them. Which is the painful point i am making right now.
The states are run by the same dickheads that are stripping your freedoms away. Welcome. To. Real. Life.
And how do they plan on doing that? With words on paper that they won't enforce?
What do you think we should do? We need a strategy.
We have a strategy. Grass roots organizing and pushing back on all fronts.
From a post I made yesterday:
Winning local legislative seats means we write the voting laws (screw HR-1).
Getting based Sheriffs and elected Judges matters too. Do you want a gun-grabber Sheriff or a judge who lets BLM out without bail?
Getting elected to school boards gets CRT away from our kids.
And ignoring local elections is a big reason we are in this mess.
And all of these things need to be done no matter the path forward on the National level.
I'd also add that State nullification is a big deal.
buy 80%'ers and build your own?
thats my plan
Find them at a gun store and pay cash if you can.
Not going to happen unless millions of us rise up and do something. No one is coming to save us and elections and the legal system are dead.
Someone needs to start MASSIVE conservative communities that ignore "Federal Law" (white genocide and globalism).
Become ungovernable
Or, just hear me out here. Or. We all get involved on the most local levels we can and push our people down their throats. You know what the left has been doing for years while conservatives just pay attention to major federal elections.
Normal people just want to be left alone.
Psychos want to CONTROL normal people. THAT is the problem. They won't leave us alone, no matter what we do.
You know the solution...
That's the problem though, while you're minding your own business the country is being burned down and new families are becoming sparse because of the commie shit.
Freedom isn't free, anyone wanting to enjoy freedoms without protecting them are not deserving of freedom
stop paying taxes
You won't get them out peacefully, as has been THOROUGHLY proven.
By force or death, if necessary.
This government doesn’t represent its people anymore, whatsoever.
It’s a special interest dictatorship doing the bidding of its oligarchs and for foreign nations.
We the people have lost a say. And the media gaslights half of the country into thinking everything is just peachy, while pushing wedge issues so that our ideologies just keep getting pushed further and further apart from each other so that the infighting between parties never stops.
Endless bickering between Americans while the wealthy elite class continues to steal from us and usurping right after right after right. These are grim times, and we need to come together and destroy the narratives that these media conglomerates are pushing.
We the people do have a say, go after your state government. That is the design given to us by our founders and it can and will work when enough of us stop keyboard complaining and actually pursue it.
Unless your state is blue, purple, or has a large black population. Then your vote doesn't count, your judges are corrupt, and your only legal route is the last box.
The country is going to inevitably balkanize. Look at what happens with cities like Detroit, they become hell hole slums because the ideas and opinions running them are bad, bad ideas repulse sane and intelligent people. This is natural selection at work.
That’s why you are seeing the populations of Texas, Florida, and Tennessee explode while California, New York, and Illinois shrink.
Unfortunately they aren't learning and we're also seeing those transplants continue their normal voting tendencies
Interesting. Maybe Covid has an upside after all, since lefttards are all about lockdowns and masks. They'll stay with the governors that tell them what to do.
Voting trends over the past 10-15 years suggest otherwise. Texas is turning blue, Georgia did (allegedly, but still close enough for normies to not see the blatant fraud)
But what happens when a small group of evil-incarnate individuals exterminate the smart people?
That's why you never give up your guns.
Ever.
There is nothing natural or organic about what's going on
Look at every single law or bill that is passed anymore through the prism of “does this take away a citizen’s rights, even just a little bit” or “this is a bribe for crony corporations or to other countries”, and things start to make a disturbing amount of sense.
Look at the mean age of an oligarch and our politicians.
Look at the mortality rate of covid patients in that age range.
Look at the mortality rate for the overall population.
Look at the ridiculous requirements they want to enforce to combat covid in the overall population.
Now tell me they aren't more concerned about their own asses than the general well being of the population. They will literal have everyone living in a box only taken out when needed to save their own asses.
They have forced our hand. Any means JUSTIFIED.
You are WIDE awake.
It's TIME.
The bright side is there will be a flash point.
Good, I hope they do this. It would be a major piece of fuel for a constitutional convention called by the states to significantly downsize the federal government. And very VERY long over due.
I think we need to start working on this. I think worst case scenario would be what you describe, plan for it to end there.
Maybe some smarter people can figure this out but maybe we start getting states to push towards rescinding federal power.
Small steps to get it started.
Gun control.
Marijuana.
Immigration/refugees/illegal immigration
Little bits at a time, we've been too quiet for too long to have the leverage to ask for anything major right away
The states have been nullifying the feds for years now. We need a lot more of that but also a constitutional convention to put down what is clearly a dangerous rabid hell hound. Look up the Tenth Amendment Center run by Micheal Bolden.
https://conventionofstates.com/
Item 1: Repeal the 17th
Item 2: Repeal the 16th
Item 3: Term limits
Item 4: End the Fed
Item 5: Commies get helicopter rides
Item 6: Balanced budget
State legislatures haven’t done this before so maybe they could dust off their powers
https://conventionofstates.com/
when dems don't get their way they create events to get bills passed
The banker puppet masters will start a civil war before they allow this. 100% certain
Our votes get flipped by dominion or thrown out by black supremacists with no punishment whatsoever and you think we can get a convention of states going?
Delusion.
Fuck the democrats and fuck the fbi, that is all carry on
Do you do mounted archery?
These fucking republicans "well if we give in this one time maybe they won't take all the guns" fucking pathetic spineless losers.
Theyre all COMPLICIT, theyre not spineless theyre a part of the scheme. NEVER get them confused again
If someone tries to take my guns they'll have to "block" 5.56mm and .45 acp rounds.
Not threatening a soul, except enemies of the state. And when you stomp on the constitution, you're no different than any other enemy we face that deserve nothing less than a bullet.
If a gun confiscation happens most of us will have 3 choices. Be slaves. Die resisting. Die for whatever reason the state wants you too.
They will never take your guns. They know they can’t do it. They will however, make it impossible to buy guns or ammo at some point. It will continue to creep.
The Fabians plan. Slow Creep.
HR127 will restrict .50 cal and up. They will use that bill to expand ammo types as they see fit when/if they get it passed.
No doubt. They're smarter than we give them credit for. They're also patient and will take their time in essentially getting rid of the 2a.
Future generations are truly fucked.
Like with California, this will only serve to teach a generation to build their own guns.
And the next generation will have 3-d printers and desktop mills
People don't realize that printed guns are perfectly usable. A "gun" is really just an interior frame. The pieces and ammo can be bought without invasive vetting.
for now
Not to mention that there is Mexico, where I bet that guns are getting smuggled into our nation by the truckload.
If there is a need for guns and other weapons, I bet the smugglers would be more than happy to supply
There is another bill that will be coming to prevent that as well. Yes I know people can still do it. But if that bill I speak off passes then it'll make it difficult to obtain the jigs and 80%s. They are eyeing 3d printers but I don't think there are any restrictions planned for them yet. I think they have already made the files illegal to have. HR 1477 & 1454
Nope, first amendment prevents that. They can ban whatever they like, and all they do is incentivize people learning to produce the precursor themselves.
California made ammo hard to get an tons of people started learning to (re)load.
There are people, right now, learning to make their own primers.
Rolling and shaping brass from a sheet into a case seems impossible, but casting a bullet or priming a case seem equally impossible until you learn that presses, molds, and block lead exist.
They are creating independence from centralized industry, and they'll no more succeed at this than they did at banning drugs.
That's good to hear! I was mistaken when I thought they banned the files. I remember there was something about it a while back with Defense Distributed but I just lost track of what the final outcome was.
If an administration is illegal, does it make every bill the write, illegal?
Not in Clown World apparently
Won't stop people from getting them.
Most crimes involving guns are done with illegally obtained guns. Usually felons too. They never want to talk about it.
Yes, but those pesky criminals only threaten other minorities, where as those pesky law abiding white people threaten them when pushed too far.
Yep! More specifically stolen guns. But they try to shift the blame on people who build them.
Ok. Now what do we do aside from completely breaking the laws or calling on the deaf ears of our tyrants?
The opposite of what we've been doing.... we need to get LOUD.
We're the majority, we're quiet.
They're the minority, they're loud.
Who's getting what they want?
You answered your own question. I've said it for YEARS. Peace was never an option when facing an enemy that just kills and/or demonizes all opposition, and is COMPLETELY devoid of honor.
See JFK, Hitler, Saddam, Gaddafi, etc...
Follow the law. The founding documents are quite clear about tyrants and our responsibilities
One of the Greatest days in my life when I was 10 years old was when my Dad trained me on how to use a 12 Gauge shot gun! Lots of laughs that day, shoulder bruised and sore but it was all worth the memories I still have today. Love my Pop God rest his soul!
Block deez nuts muthafuckas
This article has been plagiarized. I know because I wrote the original that they copied.
https://conservative-daily.com/2021/03/09/this-week-dems-voting-on-bill-to-block-legal-gun-purchases/
The way SCOTUS has behaved I can see them steam rolling this through if ever it gets to them.
The Individual States Must Refuse To Cooperate Any Longer With This Hostile Enemy Faction Illegitimately Occupying The White House.
Ahh man, the backlash from this government is so big, and petrol prices have been going up all around the world. Prices are up 30 - 40 cents in Australia.
They're going up ten cents a week where I am in the States
I bought gas on Tuesday and it jumped 30 cents overnight.
We could hit $10 gas this year
I got stuck one day in an area near to the airport. And you know how if you fill up anywhere near the airport, you are talking about an extra 10 cents just for the privilege. Funny that really. Car was near the bottom of that magical 80km range where the car stops reading the actual level of petrol, and just literally counts the kilometres you travel. (I know this fact because it happened running LPG, car had plummeting range whilst not consuming petrol)
I know what will stop this. A peaceful protest. They absolutely listen to that. Maybe some 1/20/2020 Virginia LARP, but not too much. Read the Constitution. Have some guys dress in period costumes. Give some stern speeches. Just alelways, remember the optics. Would NOT want someone doing something that could cause them to take the 2A rights. Oh, and meme for sure. They totally fear memes. Hell, do all this and they may just abolish the NFA.
“Hey democrats.....slow down,....we don’t wanna be too hasty”
,Ineffective republicrats 2021
I wish they would ban cars too. I'm tired of reading about drunk driving causing deaths.
Motorcycles should be fitted with seatbelts and airbags. They're way too dangerous as is.
Me thinks a representative democracy is not so representative considering the number of dems who purchased guns in the previous year.
Well, law abiding conservatives, who "follow the law" where do you stand now?
Last box...
No. Next to last box.
Last box is pine
The sick part is that while the FBI manages the NICS database, they don't manage the entries, they are controlled by the individual States. So the "appeal" isn't really an appeal. The FBI doesn't check with the State to see if you were entered by mistake, they just double check that you are in the database.
Translation: "Let the extermination begin."
They want our weapons so China can walk right in!
And the UN (both are literal armies of Satan).
I’m about to my limit
If you haven't reached it by now, it's too late.
PLO constantly makes demands and refuses to give concessions. Israel, in an effort to appease the PLO (and stop the bombings) and trying to seek peace will "compromise" and give the PLO as much as they want, only for the cycle to start all over.
now, substitute Dems for PLO and Republicans for Israel.
Too late faggots
Once we clean house and get control and common sense back this needs to happen. Amendment to the second amendment. " Any attempt to infringe by either force or legislation of firearm or ammunition is an act of treason punishable by minimum 15 years or death".
Would definitely cause someone to hesitate to just start drawing up this asinine horseshit.
Soon the only law enforcement will be vigilante law. All I want to know is there going to be a limit on democrats?
I'm tired.
I mean, anything to make it difficult to buy a firearm Is bullshit, but of course we’re already well past that.
My issue here is this seems to be dishonestly written. It states this is giving the FBI 10 days to process the background check. If they deny you have 10 days to appeal. The article claims this is a month? In my world a month is 30 days. So am I missing something or this bullshit.?
"Republicans are actually considering this bill, calling it a compromise."
We have to FLUSH the system....FULLY
Fuck.
Them.
We need Ammo. Not more guns. I will take more guns though. But I need Ammo. I guess we can replenish our stocks from the dead.
in Ohio, i think after 10 days and no response from the Fed the ffl is allowed to proceed with the sale at their discretion.
And I hear of the fucking FBI again. I HATE HEARING ABOUT THEM FFS THEY ALL SUCK
Not yelling at you OP
Thank you :)
no prob :)
BIG protest April 15, should be wild...
This is an illegitimate administration and we're still allowing it to happen. What is wrong with us?
https://www.house.gov/representatives
I thought that have info on senators as well but it doesn't look like it. Sorry, don't have time to track down the senator info right now.
👻🔫
Republican heads are going to roll if they don't stand up to this. Why are these guys that are supposed to be on our side never actually on our side?
Time to find out how dishonest those Dems who say they support gun ownership really are. It's gonna be a make or break moment for Manchin too.
Not following this article. Firstly (and maybe things are different in the lefty-er states), I've never had to wait more than 5 minutes to purchase a gun. I'm sure there are places this takes longer, but I'd wager most places don't have a 3 day wait period.
Second, in what world does 10 plus 10 equal 30? There's a 10 day wait, followed by a 10 day appeal. That's not a month.
Now, don't get me wrong-every bill passed by Dems anymore SHOULD be cause for complete and total civil war, but this article is sketchy.
Edit:. Missed the "Business days" comment. I still hold that three day wait is unique at least in south west PA.
That may be. In which case, yeah it's garbage. But I didn't think government crap used"working days". I thought with silencer forms, when you sent in fingerprint cards it was "10 days" flat but I may be wrong.
This bill uses business days.
Depending on the year, months typically have between 19 and 21 business days. If the ATF can spend 10 business days conducting the background check and then another 10 business days conducting an appeal, it is actually very possible that those 20 days will stretch out over a calendar month. If a purchaser wastes even one day in between his initial denial and the appeal, then you get to 21 and it is an entire calendar month.
The Background Check Form is only valid for 30 calendar days after it is submitted. Let's say you bought a gun on Dec 18 of last year, after business hours. It's Christmas week, you want to get a present for yourself. Your background check form will expire on January 17. There are 18 business days that separate the purchase date and the background check form expiration. That's because you have Christmas, New Years, Martin Luther King Day, and four weekends in between those dates. If you bought a gun Christmas week, the ATF would be able to technically run out the process so long that even if they approved you after a 20 business day process, you would have to start all over.
So let's say you go back to the gun store two days later on a Friday after work. You submit another Form 4473 and start the process over again. The FBI again uses all 10 days to give you an initial rejection. But when you get your rejection on Friday Feb 5, it comes in at the end of the day and you can't submit your appeal same-day. Well, the FBI doesn't start working appeals on weekends, so the earliest you'd be able to submit it would be the 8th. OOPS, President's day is a Federal Holiday, so even if the FBI begins processing your appeal the same day it is received, the 10 business days would bring you to Feb 22nd. Unfortunately, that is again one calendar day after your background check form expired.
It goes on and on and on and on...
When you incorporate holidays like Thanksgiving and Christmas, two of the most popular holidays for gun purchasing, it is easy to see how millions of firearm purchases per year could fall into this kind of limbo. If the bill were to pass and the ATF were to use all 20 of it's business days to stall gun purchases, they could indefinitely block a lot of gun purchases.
My 3 day background check took a week.
That may be but my point was that 3 day background checks are being described as "standard". I purchased 6 guns in 2020 and the background check took less than a minute on each. This includes rifles, shotguns and pistols.
I know. My situation was different because I bought mine online and had to go through an FFL guy.
No, you just didn't read carefully. The article clearly says 10 BUSINESS days. 10 business days is two weeks. If you appeal, that is ANOTHER 10 business days, ie. two more weeks. That's 4 weeks altogether, which is approximately one month.
That seems to be the consensus now. Bad on me for skimming.
It's a good thing I live near a lake. I'll go find one of those lost guns.
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Civil holocaust here we come. Remember lefties this is all on u.
Bastards.