I never understood the worship some parents had for these assholes. Especially teacher gifts. I am in my 40s and saw all my friends trying to be the best parent giving shit. I told them they were idiots and most of their kids went nowhere and are still living at home smoking weed all day. Glad I waited to have a kid late in life. I'm homeschooling.
Parent's do this shit because most of them only had kids to fit in or cave to family/spouse pressure. Then they use them as social markers; so they all must be 'smart' and do well in school. Bribing and ass-kissing teachers makes them feel as though they are parenting. Interacting with them also helps them heal from the staggering realization that they themselves were not gifted, but they blamed the school and teachers when they were growing up.
The whole social pressure where parents are judged by the "success" of their kids generationally reinforces the neurosis of "climbing the social ladder". It's a feedback loop and it is reinforced from many angles in society.
Money, power, status, getting invited to the right parties......all part of the same sickness.
Oh, and it's important to note that not all successful people or students at the "right" schools are part of this sickness. Some people get there by merit and don't play the games, they're just hard to find because nobody dares speak out.
Now that gifted programs are getting removed (because certain races aren't smart enough to be "represented" in them) and anti-American, anti-White garbage is being openly taught, the public school system is a measure of last resort.
If your child is gifted, or if you just want to give them the best shot, you need to home school. It should be priority number 1.
I agree, but I was more referring to colleges. I guess, thinking about it, that the same status stuff applies to high school and in places like NYC to the private kindergartens.
If our public school systems and the teachers unions are still intact or recognizable in 3 years, we'll have failed.
I know some teachers are outstanding, but these moms at my kids school were collecting $20 a kid for teachers gifts, 20ish kids in the class...I’m like holy shit. Is this necessary?
Yep. I see this in my school district too. It's usually well-to-do stay at home moms that organize this shit because they can virtue signal on social media about how wonderful they are for helping the oh so brave teachers. None of this happened when I was growing up. Maybe you'd give the teacher a card or cheap homemade ornament at Christmas time. Now it's $25 a kid to help throw together a fancy lunch several times a year. It's nauseating.
I've seen teachers scoff at a Burberry umbrella because another teacher got a Gucci wallet (from the parent with the worst behaved mouthbreather). Too bad the TikTok nurses have stolen their thunder...
And the $25 is the bare minimum expectation. Then begins the "additional" gift one-up-manship to curry favor: "You can use our ski house over winter break!" "Here's 2 tickets to sit in the skybox at the Laker game...
Can confirm. My wife is a kinder teacher and usually gets a few hundred dollars of trinkets and gift cards every year. You can also tell it is a bunch of leftist virtue signaling white moms doing it too because at least half of the gift cards are starbucks.
Since it costs $14,840 per student per year, and there are, on average (K-12) 30 students per classroom, each classroom gets $445,200 per year.
With 95% of that money going to salaries (look it up) I do not think that the parents need to donate to teachers and or classrooms.
The reason teachers get paid 'low' is to perpetuate the "poor teacher" myth, so we agree to more taxes "for the children."
The teachers aren't paid that much, but given that the taxpayer is spending $445,200/yr/classroom, it is their unions and gubbermint who is screwing the teachers NOT the taxpayer
My wife is a kinder teacher so I can confirm this is true.
My wife gets excellent health benefits and an amazing pension too. Pay is around 60k/year but she only works like 200 days per year (I forget the exact number she tells me) with the whole summer off. The pension is amazing too. If you put something like 30 years in as a teacher then you get 100% of your final year's salary. This is why you see so many teachers in their final teachers before retirement trying to become principals an the such. They're literally gaming the system.
The whole idea that teachers are underpaid is a joke. That notion probably only realistically applies maybe to rural school districts or states with lower property values like maybe Oklahoma.
Teaching is an extremely well paid profession and I highly recommend others to become teachers, especially if you are a conservative.
Teachers work 187 days per year. We [normal people] work 260 days per year.
In their Union contract, they have periods dedicated to grading papers and prepping for lessons. They don't need to take work home as per their contract. The teachers who do put in more than 8/hrs a day are either new teachers or good teachers.
Without merit based pay or raises, the teacher quickly does the minimum. Most will realize this at about 5 years in, when they realize it doesn't matter how good they are, they will get the same raise as the crappy teachers.
The only "gifts" I have ever provided my kids' teachers was school supplies. I live in a rather poor rural area, in about December or so I email their teachers and ask if there is anything that is needed. Last December they didn't need anything smaller class sizes and most remote learning kids have 1 parent on welfare and wouldn't send supplies.
It's interesting to observe how things have changed since I went to school. Our school district here requires parents to buy extra school supplies to make up for others who don't buy them for their own kids. When I went to school parents were responsible for buying school supplies for their own kids, period.
When I went to school parents either had to pack a lunch for their kids or get the kids on the school lunch program. In our school district here, all of the kids get free meals even when school is closed. During the lockdowns the school district prepared and delivered multiple times a day to any student who wanted them.
My wife is a teacher. She doesn't drink coffee. All of my travel mugs say "World's best art teacher!" or something similar. Anyhow, she quit her union a few years ago. They suck dues from them, but don't really do crap.
Teachers at her school staged a protest to go back to work. They did a "blended schedule" at the beginning of the year, but are now 5 days per week. Parents have the option for virtual schooling if they want it.
My wife’s ISD NEVER caved to the bullshit. NO VIRTUAL SCHOOLING. Only homebound availability. The rival district over the tracks has been doing half/half and the teachers there are stretched and fucking miserable.
The blended crap was miserable. I'm a web marketing guy so I built my wife a website to host her lessons in video format. We would do one video per class per week for their 3 week blocks. So we were recording and editing 6 videos each weekend at around 3 hours per video.
On the upside, she wants to start a business selling her art lesson plans, videos, and songs. We just looked at all of this as startup costs for the business.
My wife is a kinder teacher and did 100% online school. If the teacher is tech savvy then they'll do fine and be able to do a decent job. If the teacher is not tech savvy then basically the education value drops to zero because the teacher refuses to use new technology and the kids suffer.
Our issue is internet access at home. Here in rural WV the fastest connection we can get at home is DSL at around 2 mbps. On the "blended" schedule she had them in class two days per week and then for one 15 minute block on Wednesday when she had both groups. They have an A, B, C schedule on a three week rotation. Altogether she has around 600 students between two schools.
Gifts? Or bribes? Maybe those parents think that they could buy a better treatment for their kids with those gifts? Maybe even better grades? Don't know whether it really works like that, though.
There are also some genuinely nice good teachers and some kind parents out there. We dont get our kids teachers presents every year, but we have sent in a small basket or a gift card to one or two of them over the years. If I see someone working much harder than they have to in order to help my kid, I'm going to show some gratitude. That may mean some kind words to them, that may mean they get some snacks or coffee/tea.
Here is why: Public education is a socialist economic system. All teachers are paid the same regardless of how good of a job they do.
We need to take money from the 80% of teachers who suck at their job and give it to the 20% who actually perform. Then watch how suddenly the teachers who suck start putting in the effort in to be good at teaching.
Their most important short-term economic function is babysitting. Without the kids having somewhere to go, parents can't go to work. If parents can't go to work, families starve.
The long-term function is education and fostering of social skills, and here we need teachers who do that well. But the babysitting is super important and if the teachers won't do it, then in the short-term, society is better off replacing them with anyone who will.
And as a kid, why are you told you have to go to school? To learn and be smart so you can get a good job so you can work, raise a family, and not starve lol. And have kids go to school. And the cycle repeats..
Shit like this is why I didn't take any of the yearly standardized testing seriously. I didn't take any of the education I got seriously because the teachers didn't care. They got their checks and moved on. Most of the teachers I had were out the door at the last bell before the kids were even on the buses. I started off a straight A student. Great behavior, no issues at all. That lasted through 1st grade. I learned quick that the results that I got didn't matter. I was going to be pushed through no matter what. I didn't take them seriously anymore and on a whim, my senior year of high school I took the standardized testing seriously and actually tried. I ranked in the 99th percentile for the entire state of Missouri in all subjects. Which raised eyebrows. Because my report cards read like a Helen Keller speech "FFFDABCFFFBDABCAAAAF". I took the results and showed them to my parents and said "See? I'm smart. I just don't care about their shit system. They don't care, why should I?" and I used that as leverage to get in to a program dedicated mainly for troubled kids. One where I could do all my classes at a computer lab, online, and do everything in my own time and speed. I zoomed through the courses and my grades for the classes were B's and A's. I can learn, I can do great in school, I just don't like most of the teachers. That's the problem.
Same scenario hated school and hated the teachers, It was always the push of if you don't intend on going to college you're wasting your life. The week before graduation they sat about 8 of us down (Class of 34 students) and summed it up to basically they were concerned for our futures, and didn't expect us to amount to anything in life. Well fast forward a few years and here I am working from home making 6 figures a year, and the "educator" that made these comments died last month from complications of diabetes due to her obesity.
I had one teacher who called community college the "MIT of St. Louis", the "Mom I Tried" school. Because to her, if you weren't smart enough to get in to a state school, you were stupid. Community college was for idiots not good enough to get in to the big campuses.
I had always heard similar things about our local community college. I got my AA from the local community college and then went on to graduate from college. I have a good job and am very fortunate in my life.
And do you know what? With a very few exceptions, the best teachers, the most memorable classes, the courses that stuck with me the most, all came from my two years at the community college.
Junior (community) college was all that I could afford without taking out loans, which I was determined not to do. I worked full time while attending, had almost no free time for a few years, but graduated debt free. I ended up retiring early from a highly lucrative IT career.
I learned early on that at least half my teachers were dumb as a sack of rocks and got by on repeating whatever garbage they were assigned to "teach" on any given semester. The few who were good were often not liked because they had actual expectations that the students LEARN how to think rather than regurgitate the curriculum.
The schools then proceeded to get rid of the good teachers and keep the garbage to the point that schools are unrecognizable to older adults.
I had teachers that hated that I questioned the way things were done. Like in math, having to do certain things. I could see a problem and do it in my head just fine, but then they'd want me to show work and I'd be fucked because breaking it down their way screwed me up. I had one teacher that HATED me because she wanted us to do a 2 page/6 paragraph essay each class on a topic of her choice. It was always "Do this and this and this in at least 2 pages or 6 paragraphs." I could usually sum up everything in one and the rest would be gibberish bullshit. She tried to fail me, and it went to the school board on appeals. Her guidelines simply stated I had to do the 2 pages or the 6 paragraphs and sum up. Which I did. She didn't say every paragraph had to pertain to the topic itself. I was the reason she had to get so overly specific in her syllabus for the future years.
The certification process is bullshit too. In my state, they weigh every section over 300 points instead of 100. So they can miss 1/3 of the questions on the cert test and still get certified. They don’t even hold teachers to the same standards as students. They have to pay the state to take the test and pay the state again to have the cert. documented... oh, and these carts are developed by PEARSON. It’s so fucking stupid.
100% this. If teachers aren't motivated to perform, they won't.
I also work a government job and I know it is true. If you work hard, it is pointless because there is no incentive other than to keep your job. So you eventually just realize this and start slacking.....then you start realizing there really isn't much punishments for slacking so you just make it the norm.
My wife is a teacher and this is true. She doesn't do any BLM brainwashing in her class and it neutral on everything she teaches. Just to show how bad it is gotten, most of the conservative teachers just keep quite because the BLM woke mob has infested public education. If you push back against their agenda then they start witch hunting you.
It is up to the parents to do something and to start looking into what their teachers are teaching them. Send the kids to school with a hidden camera and you will see. It is bad.
The teacher bashing that goes on in threads like this is unfair. There are a lot of good teachers out there - many of which have nothing to do with the union bullshit. My daughter's special education teacher is amazing - dude has been working non-stop from home trying to teach autistic four year olds over a god damn computer screen. He always has a positive attitude, always willing to talk any time. He's just a straight up good guy.
Thank you. My husband is a sped teacher and I have been humbled to learn through this year of both of us working from home that he works much harder than I do at my corporate job. There are loser teachers, too many of them, but good ones do exist. He also hates the union.
People that continue to propagate corruption for a paycheck are just a guilty.
Fuck every last lazy shitbag "teacher" that at the end of the day sucks it up and teaches white kids to hate themselves because that's what the school board approved.
All professions have their losers. The thing with teachers is the amount of hero worship they get combined with the amount of patting themselves on the back that some of them do. My wife is a teacher and she's a down to earth good woman as are many of her coworkers. But there are definitely some vocal ones who act like they're saving the world instead of holding a job. The same goes for nurses too. If you do well at these jobs then I do appreciate it but lets not forget that it's really just a job (and one that pays quite well in my state.)
I was in public schools from 1961-1973. The teachers I had for the most part were the kind people wish they were today. Stayed late to help a student with subjects they struggled with. Bought lunches for kids who couldn't afford them, and kept their political opinions to themselves. In 1972, I had a liberal literature teachers. Prior to the election, we asked him who he planned to vote for, (knowing it wasn't Nixon), and he said, "my political persuasions have little, if anything, to do with your passing this class!" Rest in Peace, Mr. Edmonson.
Mr - that's why you had a good experience. There are way too many females in the education system now. The only two teachers I had which were worth a damn were men who were not afraid to speak the truth. They taught you how to think critically and question everything. They hardly taught from the book. Every female teacher I had was only interested in the paycheck and summers off.
She was also your mother. My mother was a teacher as well so I have insider knowledge of what it's really like in our education system. I've also worked for Higher Ed my entire life. It's full of lazy slackers - holds true any time you put federal funding into something. You don't need to produce results since you'll get the money regardless.
Just look up khanacademy. There you go. If we pumped billions into Khanacademy then educational quality would skyrocket and kids would have thousands of high-quality courses to take but this never happens because we are beholden to teacher unions and the public education scam.
They still have home ec. at some schools. My daughter had home ec. a few years ago and it was one of the most useful classes she has ever taken. I was very pleased to see it was still offered.
I am sad to say that my respect for teachers has taken a massive nosedive, even before some refused to return to school. I was already wary after seeing some of my child's former teachers fear mongering and acting like utter fools on social media in response to the scandemic. That made me glad I'd already decided to home school my kiddo for at least the next three years. Now this kind of crap?
Plus they will be forcing their students to wear masks... even 1st graders. How is a child supposed to have normal social development when everyone's face is covered?
"Hey guys, remember not to post pictures of you partying it up maskless in Cancun over spring break, because that could really compromise our position that we're all too scared of getting the Coof to go back to work."
I don't understand the racism angle. As a former teacher, I can say that there is no doubt that minority students are suffering most from this lockdown. I would think that the minority population (especially those teachers) would support the reopening of schools! And liberals....who claim to be so concerned about those communities. I hate what these unions are doing and always have, that's why I never joined one.
I’ve seen teachers in my area who now all of a sudden say it’s too dangerous to be outside had posted pictures over the summer of them at the beach, at restaurants with your friends, etc.
I feel sorry for the good teachers who actually care. I know two personally. But I also know a few that are useless early 30 somethings who love SJW culture and are the ones bitching and moaning about going back. Mind you, I've run into them several times over the last year at the stores, wineries, breweries, and at friends' houses. I straight up told one of them last week - if you're so concerned about going back to teach in person, you shouldn't be out and about. There's literally no difference. Fell on deaf ears...something about "muh safety", which they can't define.
If we ever get control of the government again, these unions need to be broken up and done away with.
If kids are going to learn remotely, they should learn from the best in the world. No reason to settle just for who's nearby. Great teachers should be able to put their content online and parents pick from the classes to fill a minimum curriculum. I always wished the whole world could have had my fifth grade teacher. It's a shame he was limited to just 30-some kids per year. And then in high school I had a master teacher for trigonometry/imaginary numbers/statistics. If there were recordings of his classes I'd watch them over and over to keep everything fresh in my mind.
I volunteered at a local elementary school for a few years let me tell you teachers, at least in my area, have it bad. Underpaid, overworked having to be both teacher and parent.
District won't do anything to offend anyone, can't hold a student back even if he/she cannot read. District willingly throws teachers under the bus with no notice, teachers union is straight garbage. Teachers have it very rough but I blame the parents and the good and decent people who stood by for years while our education system was infiltrated.
Yeah my wife is a preschool teacher. She couldn't wait to get back with the kids in person. It's so hard keeping their attention spans up through Teams. It's just not the same either. But of course they're following wholly unnecessary covid protocols because our Governor is a tyrant and jackass.
Her union seems to be at least reasonable, it's not apparently affiliated, at least not directly with the NJEA. Those assholes have this "Teachers' Convention" every November in AC (dunno if they tried to this past year) and really all they do is the ones who actually go down there might go to one short workshop and the rest of the time they're shopping and dicking around. There was a video Veritas did a few years back where they had someone undercover posing as a teacher and getting video of them in bars badmouthing the kids they have to teach and mocking the parents. The rest of the teachers stay home and treat it like a long weekend.
I live in NJ as well. My wife told me that many of them use the convention time to go to Disney World instead. Also, don’t forget the nation’s highest property taxes to pay for them. My wife has a teaching degree and politics kept her from getting a job as a teacher.
Saw this on Tucker last night. Just proves that they know that at this point the covid stuff is all bullshit. It just about the money....and fuck the kids
I have a few teachers in my life who made a real positive impact. Most did not. I have personally reached out to them to thank them for their impact on my life.
There is no need to constantly thank them for doing their job.
It doesnt need to be during spring break. I know teachers that have been on "vacation" during covid because of distance learning; they can work from anywhere they have an internet connection.
A while ago some teacher guy on twitter was complaining to his fellow teachers that parents might look over their kids' backs while being schooled at home and see the "delicate conversations" that they used to be able to have in school without parents knowing about it, like about sexuality.
I had a roommate in her late 30’s before I got married, she was a kindergarten teacher and dumber than a pile of rocks. When I first met her I thought some of what she said was a joke but no she was dumber than Biden’s pinky toe. Scared me into realizing that teachers really are just babysitters.
I belong to one of the facebook groups of parents advocating for LAUSD to re-open. The screenshot made the rounds a few days ago and parents were blowing up news outlets to cover the story. Our local Fox affiliate finally picked it up - so glad to see this getting national attention now. The hypocrisy is maddening.
The fastest way to re-open schools is to home school your kids. School funds are tied to average daily attendance. Schools dont care about you or your family, they already control your children's minds and they want more control. Get control of your local government, get school vouchers, and get rid of public schools.
Im just saying . Canada schools have been open for a while and NO death , no problems nothing. Everything is fine! Teachers unions in the us are GARBAGE . They just want more money and less work . Get back to work you lazy bastards. There is no reason why kids are not back to schools .
Never said it was. I'm just finding it interesting this post was posted only 2 minutes ago, and already got stickied.
I assume they actually check the source before they sticky, so I don't think there was enough time to do so. So, I'm merely remarking on how that's weird.
Lots of people accuse them of colluding with other users or stickying the posts of their own alts, so I just made the assumption that you were as well.
My bad.
But no, there doesn't seem to be much effort in vetting stickies. More of just like a timer goes off and they stop whatever they were doing to scroll through new.
I don't blame them for not wanting to go back and "teach" all those loser joggers that think being smart is a system of whiteness!!! .... Racist teachers is what they are!! Lol
I'm going on vacation to the Bahamas in a few weeks and maybe rent a Cessna for a couple days and fly us down to Puerto Rico for a private dinner by the beach followed by 1/4 of one night of sex and one cigarette and maybe a generic non-coca-cola soda.
teachers are the most overpaid self-important lazy cunts on the planet
I never understood the worship some parents had for these assholes. Especially teacher gifts. I am in my 40s and saw all my friends trying to be the best parent giving shit. I told them they were idiots and most of their kids went nowhere and are still living at home smoking weed all day. Glad I waited to have a kid late in life. I'm homeschooling.
Parent's do this shit because most of them only had kids to fit in or cave to family/spouse pressure. Then they use them as social markers; so they all must be 'smart' and do well in school. Bribing and ass-kissing teachers makes them feel as though they are parenting. Interacting with them also helps them heal from the staggering realization that they themselves were not gifted, but they blamed the school and teachers when they were growing up.
There's a ton of truth packed into this comment.
The whole social pressure where parents are judged by the "success" of their kids generationally reinforces the neurosis of "climbing the social ladder". It's a feedback loop and it is reinforced from many angles in society.
Money, power, status, getting invited to the right parties......all part of the same sickness.
Oh, and it's important to note that not all successful people or students at the "right" schools are part of this sickness. Some people get there by merit and don't play the games, they're just hard to find because nobody dares speak out.
Now that gifted programs are getting removed (because certain races aren't smart enough to be "represented" in them) and anti-American, anti-White garbage is being openly taught, the public school system is a measure of last resort.
If your child is gifted, or if you just want to give them the best shot, you need to home school. It should be priority number 1.
I agree, but I was more referring to colleges. I guess, thinking about it, that the same status stuff applies to high school and in places like NYC to the private kindergartens.
If our public school systems and the teachers unions are still intact or recognizable in 3 years, we'll have failed.
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I know some teachers are outstanding, but these moms at my kids school were collecting $20 a kid for teachers gifts, 20ish kids in the class...I’m like holy shit. Is this necessary?
Yep. I see this in my school district too. It's usually well-to-do stay at home moms that organize this shit because they can virtue signal on social media about how wonderful they are for helping the oh so brave teachers. None of this happened when I was growing up. Maybe you'd give the teacher a card or cheap homemade ornament at Christmas time. Now it's $25 a kid to help throw together a fancy lunch several times a year. It's nauseating.
I've seen teachers scoff at a Burberry umbrella because another teacher got a Gucci wallet (from the parent with the worst behaved mouthbreather). Too bad the TikTok nurses have stolen their thunder...
And the $25 is the bare minimum expectation. Then begins the "additional" gift one-up-manship to curry favor: "You can use our ski house over winter break!" "Here's 2 tickets to sit in the skybox at the Laker game...
Can confirm. My wife is a kinder teacher and usually gets a few hundred dollars of trinkets and gift cards every year. You can also tell it is a bunch of leftist virtue signaling white moms doing it too because at least half of the gift cards are starbucks.
Since it costs $14,840 per student per year, and there are, on average (K-12) 30 students per classroom, each classroom gets $445,200 per year.
With 95% of that money going to salaries (look it up) I do not think that the parents need to donate to teachers and or classrooms.
The reason teachers get paid 'low' is to perpetuate the "poor teacher" myth, so we agree to more taxes "for the children."
The teachers aren't paid that much, but given that the taxpayer is spending $445,200/yr/classroom, it is their unions and gubbermint who is screwing the teachers NOT the taxpayer
My wife is a kinder teacher so I can confirm this is true.
My wife gets excellent health benefits and an amazing pension too. Pay is around 60k/year but she only works like 200 days per year (I forget the exact number she tells me) with the whole summer off. The pension is amazing too. If you put something like 30 years in as a teacher then you get 100% of your final year's salary. This is why you see so many teachers in their final teachers before retirement trying to become principals an the such. They're literally gaming the system.
The whole idea that teachers are underpaid is a joke. That notion probably only realistically applies maybe to rural school districts or states with lower property values like maybe Oklahoma.
Teaching is an extremely well paid profession and I highly recommend others to become teachers, especially if you are a conservative.
Plus 3 months vacation per year. Our hero’s deserve nothing less /s.
And now there is a news story every month of a 30yo female teacher having sex with the kids. Honk Honk.
Teachers work 187 days per year. We [normal people] work 260 days per year.
In their Union contract, they have periods dedicated to grading papers and prepping for lessons. They don't need to take work home as per their contract. The teachers who do put in more than 8/hrs a day are either new teachers or good teachers.
Without merit based pay or raises, the teacher quickly does the minimum. Most will realize this at about 5 years in, when they realize it doesn't matter how good they are, they will get the same raise as the crappy teachers.
No. That’s ridiculous.
The only "gifts" I have ever provided my kids' teachers was school supplies. I live in a rather poor rural area, in about December or so I email their teachers and ask if there is anything that is needed. Last December they didn't need anything smaller class sizes and most remote learning kids have 1 parent on welfare and wouldn't send supplies.
why did you put gift in quotation? a lot of times they literally have to buy their own supplies. that's a gift, period. also, good job :)
It's interesting to observe how things have changed since I went to school. Our school district here requires parents to buy extra school supplies to make up for others who don't buy them for their own kids. When I went to school parents were responsible for buying school supplies for their own kids, period.
When I went to school parents either had to pack a lunch for their kids or get the kids on the school lunch program. In our school district here, all of the kids get free meals even when school is closed. During the lockdowns the school district prepared and delivered multiple times a day to any student who wanted them.
My wife is a teacher. She doesn't drink coffee. All of my travel mugs say "World's best art teacher!" or something similar. Anyhow, she quit her union a few years ago. They suck dues from them, but don't really do crap.
Teachers at her school staged a protest to go back to work. They did a "blended schedule" at the beginning of the year, but are now 5 days per week. Parents have the option for virtual schooling if they want it.
My wife’s ISD NEVER caved to the bullshit. NO VIRTUAL SCHOOLING. Only homebound availability. The rival district over the tracks has been doing half/half and the teachers there are stretched and fucking miserable.
The blended crap was miserable. I'm a web marketing guy so I built my wife a website to host her lessons in video format. We would do one video per class per week for their 3 week blocks. So we were recording and editing 6 videos each weekend at around 3 hours per video.
On the upside, she wants to start a business selling her art lesson plans, videos, and songs. We just looked at all of this as startup costs for the business.
The latter sounds way more palatable than the former. Y’all go get it!
Lemons to lemonade. ... Hopefully, I can retire early too.
My wife is a kinder teacher and did 100% online school. If the teacher is tech savvy then they'll do fine and be able to do a decent job. If the teacher is not tech savvy then basically the education value drops to zero because the teacher refuses to use new technology and the kids suffer.
Our issue is internet access at home. Here in rural WV the fastest connection we can get at home is DSL at around 2 mbps. On the "blended" schedule she had them in class two days per week and then for one 15 minute block on Wednesday when she had both groups. They have an A, B, C schedule on a three week rotation. Altogether she has around 600 students between two schools.
Gifts? Or bribes? Maybe those parents think that they could buy a better treatment for their kids with those gifts? Maybe even better grades? Don't know whether it really works like that, though.
There are also some genuinely nice good teachers and some kind parents out there. We dont get our kids teachers presents every year, but we have sent in a small basket or a gift card to one or two of them over the years. If I see someone working much harder than they have to in order to help my kid, I'm going to show some gratitude. That may mean some kind words to them, that may mean they get some snacks or coffee/tea.
Here is why: Public education is a socialist economic system. All teachers are paid the same regardless of how good of a job they do.
We need to take money from the 80% of teachers who suck at their job and give it to the 20% who actually perform. Then watch how suddenly the teachers who suck start putting in the effort in to be good at teaching.
They are more like babysitters. One of them admitted it in a leaked zoom meeting.
Glorified babysitters.
Their most important short-term economic function is babysitting. Without the kids having somewhere to go, parents can't go to work. If parents can't go to work, families starve.
The long-term function is education and fostering of social skills, and here we need teachers who do that well. But the babysitting is super important and if the teachers won't do it, then in the short-term, society is better off replacing them with anyone who will.
And as a kid, why are you told you have to go to school? To learn and be smart so you can get a good job so you can work, raise a family, and not starve lol. And have kids go to school. And the cycle repeats..
Shit like this is why I didn't take any of the yearly standardized testing seriously. I didn't take any of the education I got seriously because the teachers didn't care. They got their checks and moved on. Most of the teachers I had were out the door at the last bell before the kids were even on the buses. I started off a straight A student. Great behavior, no issues at all. That lasted through 1st grade. I learned quick that the results that I got didn't matter. I was going to be pushed through no matter what. I didn't take them seriously anymore and on a whim, my senior year of high school I took the standardized testing seriously and actually tried. I ranked in the 99th percentile for the entire state of Missouri in all subjects. Which raised eyebrows. Because my report cards read like a Helen Keller speech "FFFDABCFFFBDABCAAAAF". I took the results and showed them to my parents and said "See? I'm smart. I just don't care about their shit system. They don't care, why should I?" and I used that as leverage to get in to a program dedicated mainly for troubled kids. One where I could do all my classes at a computer lab, online, and do everything in my own time and speed. I zoomed through the courses and my grades for the classes were B's and A's. I can learn, I can do great in school, I just don't like most of the teachers. That's the problem.
Same scenario hated school and hated the teachers, It was always the push of if you don't intend on going to college you're wasting your life. The week before graduation they sat about 8 of us down (Class of 34 students) and summed it up to basically they were concerned for our futures, and didn't expect us to amount to anything in life. Well fast forward a few years and here I am working from home making 6 figures a year, and the "educator" that made these comments died last month from complications of diabetes due to her obesity.
I had one teacher who called community college the "MIT of St. Louis", the "Mom I Tried" school. Because to her, if you weren't smart enough to get in to a state school, you were stupid. Community college was for idiots not good enough to get in to the big campuses.
I had always heard similar things about our local community college. I got my AA from the local community college and then went on to graduate from college. I have a good job and am very fortunate in my life.
And do you know what? With a very few exceptions, the best teachers, the most memorable classes, the courses that stuck with me the most, all came from my two years at the community college.
Junior (community) college was all that I could afford without taking out loans, which I was determined not to do. I worked full time while attending, had almost no free time for a few years, but graduated debt free. I ended up retiring early from a highly lucrative IT career.
I learned early on that at least half my teachers were dumb as a sack of rocks and got by on repeating whatever garbage they were assigned to "teach" on any given semester. The few who were good were often not liked because they had actual expectations that the students LEARN how to think rather than regurgitate the curriculum.
The schools then proceeded to get rid of the good teachers and keep the garbage to the point that schools are unrecognizable to older adults.
I had teachers that hated that I questioned the way things were done. Like in math, having to do certain things. I could see a problem and do it in my head just fine, but then they'd want me to show work and I'd be fucked because breaking it down their way screwed me up. I had one teacher that HATED me because she wanted us to do a 2 page/6 paragraph essay each class on a topic of her choice. It was always "Do this and this and this in at least 2 pages or 6 paragraphs." I could usually sum up everything in one and the rest would be gibberish bullshit. She tried to fail me, and it went to the school board on appeals. Her guidelines simply stated I had to do the 2 pages or the 6 paragraphs and sum up. Which I did. She didn't say every paragraph had to pertain to the topic itself. I was the reason she had to get so overly specific in her syllabus for the future years.
You taught them!
I laugh at some of my old report cards. My ADHD was readily apparent in the comments but I am a girl!
The certification process is bullshit too. In my state, they weigh every section over 300 points instead of 100. So they can miss 1/3 of the questions on the cert test and still get certified. They don’t even hold teachers to the same standards as students. They have to pay the state to take the test and pay the state again to have the cert. documented... oh, and these carts are developed by PEARSON. It’s so fucking stupid.
100% this. If teachers aren't motivated to perform, they won't.
I also work a government job and I know it is true. If you work hard, it is pointless because there is no incentive other than to keep your job. So you eventually just realize this and start slacking.....then you start realizing there really isn't much punishments for slacking so you just make it the norm.
What's with these crazy meritocratic ideas here?
Blasphemer!
And the worst tippers and drunks ... bartender here...
Especially since American Union Workers are just Communist.
Been saying this for a decade
Every day there’s something new that makes me ashamed to admit I’m a teacher
Still plenty of good ones out there. You sound like you're one of them.
My wife is a teacher and this is true. She doesn't do any BLM brainwashing in her class and it neutral on everything she teaches. Just to show how bad it is gotten, most of the conservative teachers just keep quite because the BLM woke mob has infested public education. If you push back against their agenda then they start witch hunting you.
It is up to the parents to do something and to start looking into what their teachers are teaching them. Send the kids to school with a hidden camera and you will see. It is bad.
The teacher bashing that goes on in threads like this is unfair. There are a lot of good teachers out there - many of which have nothing to do with the union bullshit. My daughter's special education teacher is amazing - dude has been working non-stop from home trying to teach autistic four year olds over a god damn computer screen. He always has a positive attitude, always willing to talk any time. He's just a straight up good guy.
I agree. My children have had many amazing teachers.
Thank you. My husband is a sped teacher and I have been humbled to learn through this year of both of us working from home that he works much harder than I do at my corporate job. There are loser teachers, too many of them, but good ones do exist. He also hates the union.
Well said, many MAGA teachers out there. Shaking my damn head at these moran posts
People that continue to propagate corruption for a paycheck are just a guilty.
Fuck every last lazy shitbag "teacher" that at the end of the day sucks it up and teaches white kids to hate themselves because that's what the school board approved.
Nothing to be ashamed of, as long as you're a teacher of real knowledge, not a preacher of godless commie religion.
All professions have their losers. The thing with teachers is the amount of hero worship they get combined with the amount of patting themselves on the back that some of them do. My wife is a teacher and she's a down to earth good woman as are many of her coworkers. But there are definitely some vocal ones who act like they're saving the world instead of holding a job. The same goes for nurses too. If you do well at these jobs then I do appreciate it but lets not forget that it's really just a job (and one that pays quite well in my state.)
I was in public schools from 1961-1973. The teachers I had for the most part were the kind people wish they were today. Stayed late to help a student with subjects they struggled with. Bought lunches for kids who couldn't afford them, and kept their political opinions to themselves. In 1972, I had a liberal literature teachers. Prior to the election, we asked him who he planned to vote for, (knowing it wasn't Nixon), and he said, "my political persuasions have little, if anything, to do with your passing this class!" Rest in Peace, Mr. Edmonson.
Mr - that's why you had a good experience. There are way too many females in the education system now. The only two teachers I had which were worth a damn were men who were not afraid to speak the truth. They taught you how to think critically and question everything. They hardly taught from the book. Every female teacher I had was only interested in the paycheck and summers off.
The teacher who taught me to think critically, was my mom. Just sayin.
She was also your mother. My mother was a teacher as well so I have insider knowledge of what it's really like in our education system. I've also worked for Higher Ed my entire life. It's full of lazy slackers - holds true any time you put federal funding into something. You don't need to produce results since you'll get the money regardless.
Any institution that becomes dominated by females tends to go to complete shit
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That's where you're wrong, commie…
Just look up khanacademy. There you go. If we pumped billions into Khanacademy then educational quality would skyrocket and kids would have thousands of high-quality courses to take but this never happens because we are beholden to teacher unions and the public education scam.
Seriously tired of worthless teachers. That’s not all teachers but many
almost all of them. the few gems that stay in it get jaded very quickly and either join the parasitic ranks or leave entirely.
Yup, should never have gotten rid of ag,home economics and shop class.
Those were the first to go because they teach actual usable life skills, cant have that must look to the State.
Yup. Must rely on fast food, premade food, don’t fix anything yourself call someone or throw it away.
They still have home ec. at some schools. My daughter had home ec. a few years ago and it was one of the most useful classes she has ever taken. I was very pleased to see it was still offered.
There is no good reason for teachers to be unionized.
ZERO
I am sad to say that my respect for teachers has taken a massive nosedive, even before some refused to return to school. I was already wary after seeing some of my child's former teachers fear mongering and acting like utter fools on social media in response to the scandemic. That made me glad I'd already decided to home school my kiddo for at least the next three years. Now this kind of crap?
Plus they will be forcing their students to wear masks... even 1st graders. How is a child supposed to have normal social development when everyone's face is covered?
It’s child abuse.
They’re such hypocrites that want to hide their dirty secrets. Pathetic
teachers unions arent just stealing from taxpayers
they are stealing education from kids
I guess if there is one silver lining to all of this social media crap, it is to help identify the slackers...
Homeschool & raise Patriots! 👍
"Hey guys, remember not to post pictures of you partying it up maskless in Cancun over spring break, because that could really compromise our position that we're all too scared of getting the Coof to go back to work."
I don't understand the racism angle. As a former teacher, I can say that there is no doubt that minority students are suffering most from this lockdown. I would think that the minority population (especially those teachers) would support the reopening of schools! And liberals....who claim to be so concerned about those communities. I hate what these unions are doing and always have, that's why I never joined one.
Yes
This "pandemic" is basically just lazy people being lazy
We know
Too late now!
Chicago Teachers Union leader partied in Puerto Rico as teachers were herded back into schools
I’ve seen teachers in my area who now all of a sudden say it’s too dangerous to be outside had posted pictures over the summer of them at the beach, at restaurants with your friends, etc.
I feel sorry for the good teachers who actually care. I know two personally. But I also know a few that are useless early 30 somethings who love SJW culture and are the ones bitching and moaning about going back. Mind you, I've run into them several times over the last year at the stores, wineries, breweries, and at friends' houses. I straight up told one of them last week - if you're so concerned about going back to teach in person, you shouldn't be out and about. There's literally no difference. Fell on deaf ears...something about "muh safety", which they can't define.
If we ever get control of the government again, these unions need to be broken up and done away with.
If kids are going to learn remotely, they should learn from the best in the world. No reason to settle just for who's nearby. Great teachers should be able to put their content online and parents pick from the classes to fill a minimum curriculum. I always wished the whole world could have had my fifth grade teacher. It's a shame he was limited to just 30-some kids per year. And then in high school I had a master teacher for trigonometry/imaginary numbers/statistics. If there were recordings of his classes I'd watch them over and over to keep everything fresh in my mind.
I volunteered at a local elementary school for a few years let me tell you teachers, at least in my area, have it bad. Underpaid, overworked having to be both teacher and parent.
District won't do anything to offend anyone, can't hold a student back even if he/she cannot read. District willingly throws teachers under the bus with no notice, teachers union is straight garbage. Teachers have it very rough but I blame the parents and the good and decent people who stood by for years while our education system was infiltrated.
My experience as well, over worked, underpaid and chucked under the bus like side of beef if any pampered brat or parent pulls some BS
How many teachers do you know that can afford international travel?
Most of them, gubmint paychecks are pretty solid.
https://youtu.be/nBPx95R1Dcs
"We deserve to be paid hamdsomely, even though we only work 180 days a the year" - CA teachers
To quote my mother, a lifelong teacher "If the teachers unionize, the children and education will suffer."
Their narrative is CRUMBLING.
Burn the rubble.
"Masks are disposable"
We know; there's over a billion of them in our landfills and oceans.
We should do what Reagan did with the flight controllers. Order them back to work, fire those that don't. Problem solved.
Teachers unions and public education led the charge into this hellhole.
Yeah my wife is a preschool teacher. She couldn't wait to get back with the kids in person. It's so hard keeping their attention spans up through Teams. It's just not the same either. But of course they're following wholly unnecessary covid protocols because our Governor is a tyrant and jackass.
Her union seems to be at least reasonable, it's not apparently affiliated, at least not directly with the NJEA. Those assholes have this "Teachers' Convention" every November in AC (dunno if they tried to this past year) and really all they do is the ones who actually go down there might go to one short workshop and the rest of the time they're shopping and dicking around. There was a video Veritas did a few years back where they had someone undercover posing as a teacher and getting video of them in bars badmouthing the kids they have to teach and mocking the parents. The rest of the teachers stay home and treat it like a long weekend.
I live in NJ as well. My wife told me that many of them use the convention time to go to Disney World instead. Also, don’t forget the nation’s highest property taxes to pay for them. My wife has a teaching degree and politics kept her from getting a job as a teacher.
Saw this on Tucker last night. Just proves that they know that at this point the covid stuff is all bullshit. It just about the money....and fuck the kids
We don't watch Faux around here....FAUX IS ASSHOE
This scamdemic has really exposed american teachers and their unions as really, really REALLY fucking retarded.
I have a few teachers in my life who made a real positive impact. Most did not. I have personally reached out to them to thank them for their impact on my life.
There is no need to constantly thank them for doing their job.
Unpopular Opinion: some teachers are overworked and underpaid; while others are looking for a free ride.
Your spring break photo assignment is to photograph teachers in the wild. :-)
It doesnt need to be during spring break. I know teachers that have been on "vacation" during covid because of distance learning; they can work from anywhere they have an internet connection.
stop paying your property tax till they get back to work....fuck em
Wow. Yes, keep those lazy bastards in line. Don't want them making the TU look bad!
(Picture of muppet looking nervously at the camera)
Nurses making Tik-Tok videos
Week for Christmas, Thanksgiving, and Spring Break. All summer off. Lots of vacation pics. Gonna be hard....
A while ago some teacher guy on twitter was complaining to his fellow teachers that parents might look over their kids' backs while being schooled at home and see the "delicate conversations" that they used to be able to have in school without parents knowing about it, like about sexuality.
I had a roommate in her late 30’s before I got married, she was a kindergarten teacher and dumber than a pile of rocks. When I first met her I thought some of what she said was a joke but no she was dumber than Biden’s pinky toe. Scared me into realizing that teachers really are just babysitters.
I belong to one of the facebook groups of parents advocating for LAUSD to re-open. The screenshot made the rounds a few days ago and parents were blowing up news outlets to cover the story. Our local Fox affiliate finally picked it up - so glad to see this getting national attention now. The hypocrisy is maddening.
The fastest way to re-open schools is to home school your kids. School funds are tied to average daily attendance. Schools dont care about you or your family, they already control your children's minds and they want more control. Get control of your local government, get school vouchers, and get rid of public schools.
The very first picture is a car that's a literal moving violation. These people are idiots.
No surprise there then fucking wankers most of them and I can say that with actual facts good post keep going pedes spread the word 👍
Im just saying . Canada schools have been open for a while and NO death , no problems nothing. Everything is fine! Teachers unions in the us are GARBAGE . They just want more money and less work . Get back to work you lazy bastards. There is no reason why kids are not back to schools .
Well... 🤔
All the teachers I know who aren’t working are all seemingly on a constant vacation to Mexico. It’s crazy
Like they would ever get half the shit cruz got for going to cancun.
Something about unions just makes people not want to work. Weird.
I hope those “teachers” enjoyed it because the red wave is coming to wipe them out
Former ex-pat English teacher. Used to work in a commie shit hole that barely looks corrupt compared to the US education system.
Huh, weird. Pinned within 2 Minutes of posting.
It's almost like the mods go to new to find things to sticky.
Shhh
You'll give away their secrets.
So they just sit in New 24/7? Constantly refreshing the screen, and then vet a Source on a Post before pinning It? All in 2 minutes?
No they let stickies stay up for about an hour or so and then the mod on duty goes to new to find something new to sticky.
It's not a conspiracy.
Never said it was. I'm just finding it interesting this post was posted only 2 minutes ago, and already got stickied.
I assume they actually check the source before they sticky, so I don't think there was enough time to do so. So, I'm merely remarking on how that's weird.
Fair enough.
Lots of people accuse them of colluding with other users or stickying the posts of their own alts, so I just made the assumption that you were as well.
My bad.
But no, there doesn't seem to be much effort in vetting stickies. More of just like a timer goes off and they stop whatever they were doing to scroll through new.
Indeed. Half the time the Sticky contradicts itself inside the Article.
They should be required to actually read the article before they Sticky it.
Interesting...
I don't blame them for not wanting to go back and "teach" all those loser joggers that think being smart is a system of whiteness!!! .... Racist teachers is what they are!! Lol
I'm going on vacation to the Bahamas in a few weeks and maybe rent a Cessna for a couple days and fly us down to Puerto Rico for a private dinner by the beach followed by 1/4 of one night of sex and one cigarette and maybe a generic non-coca-cola soda.
Will be sending this bitch the pictures.