Black Arch and Safariland make great holsters depending on what you’re looking for. But if you start to get into light mounts for CCW, appendix carry, sight cuts, etc it becomes a lot harder. The new PDP seems like it might get more support.
Praetorian Guard has been instituted in DC. Historically speaking, that means in one generation the soldiers will be executing would-be-rulers and selling the (frequently lethal) position at public auction.
Yeah, he missed the point completely. There’s nothing magical about DC. In fact, major cities would collapse without the hard working patriots living there, paying taxes, being neighborly, contributing to society, etc.
Patriots everywhere should abandon big cities and leave them to rot under their own liberal ideologies. Quit being a tool for them to exploit.
If we separate the country/rural areas from the cities - which will inevitably occur - the rural areas will not support anything like the numbers they do today, even locally.
Care to elaborate further on the famine and insanely high death rates? I understand what you’re getting at with the pesticides but it seems like a big stretch that every field would be unusable. And you also have to consider the large amounts of land that are currently not being farmed for lack of necessity.
Former DC resident here. There’s nothing sacred about DC. That town fucking sucks and always has. They should leave the monuments and historic structures and burn everything else to the ground.
This problem isnt fixed in one state only. Its urbanites vs rural areas, rich elites vs the common man, nationalist vs globalist, Americans vs segrigationist... we owe it to our children to won this fight on all fronts.
The election was stolen beyond any doubt (and they even bragged about their fraud before the election, https://streamable.com/671nup , and Trump warned everyone long before the election about mail-in ballot voting fraud). The fail-safes (such as the Supreme Court) failed, with few options left such as the ammunition box.
And, funnily enough, the Biden administration have done all kinds of things, but in particular reg. the 2nd amendment... with the 2nd amendment being the main barrier slowing down the enslavement and extermination of the people of the USA.
Given the utterly dire circumstances, I can definitely see the arguments and reasons for abandoning the current federal government and the like, and either secede or create something new or the like. For if elections can be stolen, anything goes, and the communists, deep state, leftists, etc., very much want enslavement and extermination. But secession, splitting up, even trying to reform or tear down and then create something new (reforming/tearing down and create anew if things go very wrong is as I recall something I have argued for some months ago, including at least not paying taxes and only pay taxes to systems and groups you have personally vetted and are actually represented genuinely in - paying taxes to those who seek your enslavement and complete extinction is... especially if they have fewer and fewer barriers and are trying to weaken and abolish the 2nd amendment... ), all have considerable dangers. For the world is global now, and many of the enemies of the USA will most likely be more than happy to prevent the USA or its people and members from becoming anywhere near a great power (or even existing in the first place, even remnants of it).
I don't see good options, though not doing anything for an extended period of time is as far as I can see a losing and very dangerous strategy - the leftist administration, the deep state, the leftists, communists, etc., are not at all resting. Though the 2nd amendment buys time, which is one reason they very much want to get rid of it and weaken it as much as possible.
The founders put that amendment 2nd for the very reasons we are seeing today.
Except for Kristi Noem, everyone in high office locked down free Americans - and many are still imprisoned in violation of the 1st Amendment protections of our God given freedoms .. over the fucking seasonal sniffles!
What does everyone think the 2nd Amendment was for, if not to push back against such tyranny?
Like the meme, but historically it's not really true.
The Eastern and Western factions of the Empire had existed since Diocletian divided it administratively in 285, nearly two centuries before the Western empire fell. There were some, but not many, good times even after this.
But here's where it gets even more like what we're seeing now.
From the third century onward, the Roman empire faced a series of challenges. Though the Eastern and Western Empires were really only divided administratively, the East was spared all the problems that faced the West. Namely, the waves of Gothic immigration. Not invasion, just immigration. This weakened them and made them more prone to invasion in turn. The armies were increasingly "Germanised", and as time went on there wasn't much that kept the Western Roman Empire 'Roman'. It fell apart due to factionalism and division, while the united East stayed strong and continued on for centuries.
Lesson being that we need to keep based states based so they can survive and form a new power when the cucked states fall.
We will be STRONGER without all the mopey suicidal self hating assholes who don't know how to do anything. Most manufacturing, energy production, farming, and water is in the red states. The blue state economy is entirely tertiary sector, entirely derivative. In what world would splitting make us weaker? We are the Eastern Roman Empire.
Worries about China? You're an idiot. China isn't stupid enough to invade a place where every blade of grass would have a sniper, and they won't pick a fight with a new nation that has confidence in itself and isn't worried about being "nice" in a war.
I'm halfway through "The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire"'s 8 volumes right now. Their decline took a few centuries and there were tons of reasons why.
But so far imo the largest reason for the decline was the emergence of christianity within the Empire. That led to a lot of christians wanting to spread the gospel or whatever one wants to call it. So they let in hoardes of Germanic barbarians from the north while having unreliable lines of communication to the west and east. This led to internal strife and power struggles over the course of a hundred fifty or so years. Overbloated government didn't help at all either. Then at some point most of their citizens had no allegiance to Rome and sorta just stopped paying taxes and the Legions had become spread thin so they didn't have a way to project power to ensure that farther regions of the empire paid their taxes. Decadence of the bureaucratic and middle class didn't help either.
Sooo many reasons but the US is following along many of those as we speak. Scary shit.
The fuck it was due to the Christians. Funny how Rome could be conquered by satanic Arians and have that blamed on the Christians. But these Arians started Catholicism, so I suppose to the winner goes the spoils.
This is what needs to happen. If we could get five good emperors, starting with Donald Trump, we would have a chance to change the culture in this nation. However, the cancer is terminal. Democrats look like us, but they're not like us. We need to get as far away from them and their bad ideas as possible. This would be the best thing that could ever happen to them, if we had the old Confederacy, because we would secure the southern border. It would buy them another hundred years before it was like Escape From New York.
In a straight line Rome to Constantinople (now Istanbul) is 855 miles. From Washington D.C. to Mar-A-Lago is 862 miles. That's a 7 mile difference. Just saying.....
Poor South Dakota never gets the credit they deserve. Only Constitutional State in the country that remembered American are Self Governed and our Representatives don't rule us, they represent us because we are busy building/maintaining the country.
You're likely referring to the attempted reconquest of rome by Justinian and the subsequent so called plague of Justinian.
It is possible the Eastern empire would have reconquered most of the now defunct Western empire. It's also interesting to me that the rise of islam can also be tied to the weakening of the Eastern empire due to this plague and other issues. Islam was quickly able to overrun large and very wealthy parts of the Eastern empire. Perhaps a stronger Eastern empire could have resisted that and islam would be largely forgotten to history.
All DC labor should be split up as much as possible and dispersed to the 50 states. Heck id even support a move for the capital to Des Moines or something central even.
Without secession, we are under the boot of the communists. They control the media, the academia, and all major online platforms. They won stole the House, Senate, and the Presidency. They will end the Electoral College, import tens of millions of low-IQ moochers (especially to Texas), add DC & PR statehood, and have total political control!
We need political migration to Republican-majority counties: ideally in solid-red states, and ideally not landlocked. Buy up all the land, vote out all the commies, and do Gandhi-style non-violent resistance until we are free!
Once the dam cracks, secession will take off all over the world (especially Russia, China, etc). Down with globalism, down with all empires, all power to Individual Rights and local communities between which people can vote with their feet!
When governments compete, brains and capital flow towards greatest economic freedom, socialism runs out of other people's money, and LIBERTY SHALL PREVAIL!
This is where I'm at too. I think our power lies within our states. It's easier to gather in numbers and protest at your state capitol. It's easier to find ways to get ourselves into positions of power to help secure our elections. It's easier to get regular people who are true Patriots elected in state elections.
We must increase our influence and power in local and state govts before we can ever try to take on the feds.
Actually I’m hardcore anti-China. Every chance I get to say “Fuck the CCP” you know I’m gonna do it. I just believe that secession should be considered at the least. The federal government is too corrupt and half the country is insistent on ushering in this new corrupt order. Every year we lose more states to fraud. I also believe that secession should be legal as a matter of principle. America is itself a secessionist state and we can’t claim to support the ideals of freedom and self-determination while barring secession.
they arent going to do anything if they are led to believe that voting and donating to political puppets and controlled opposition groups will keep the Chinese boogeymen from invading.
Not always. I think a lot of the secession folk think it will stop a civil war. But were it to happen, how would USAs assets be divided: military, intelligence, etc
Using a system based on what was thought as the birth of Christ and merely pc-ing it's name is just anti-christian snowflakery.
You either make or use another system with proper justification (French revolutionary calendar for example),
Or you use the current one and call a spade a spade.
The only realistic situation that will reform the country is conservatives, Independents & libertarians using the exact same mechanisms as the Democrats & left to "win" elections.
We need to realize we're in 4th and 5th generational warfare.
Even better as there was no such thing as Byzantine Man.
Florida Man will lead the new enlightenment away from commie faggottry.
I identify as a super straight Florida Man now. Just letting everyone know.
Welcome to the club. Grab a t-shirt ... and a PPQ.
No, but I have shot the Q4 as a rental ... it's like Rosy Palm ;)
Love my PPQ. The only complaint I can manage to come up with is the lack of holster options.
Gotta be a European site that offers holsters. Many German LEO's use this as standard carry.
Black Arch and Safariland make great holsters depending on what you’re looking for. But if you start to get into light mounts for CCW, appendix carry, sight cuts, etc it becomes a lot harder. The new PDP seems like it might get more support.
Who would have thought Florida Man was the way forward, after all the years of Propaganda pushing him down...beautiful.
Which Way, Florida Man?
America needs us. Who else will say "hold my beer" before shooting a hurricane or fighting an alligator?
On meth. Don’t forget the meth!
OUR BEST HOPE LIES IN THE PROLES
Refuse to accept ANY authority, and true authority will manifest
Praetorian Guard has been instituted in DC. Historically speaking, that means in one generation the soldiers will be executing would-be-rulers and selling the (frequently lethal) position at public auction.
Already happening - FBI/DOJ and Dominion
Fine point. Already being sold, they just don't have a public "open outcry" auction - yet.
So...be less white?
The solution was right in front of us dis ho time, joggah!
Article would have title like: "Florida man equipped with alligators saves country single-handedly from communism, fueled by drugs, naked."
Drunken alligators swallowing hand sanitizer bottles and face masks used as bikinis. It is the way!
You’re damn right we will
I'm sorry but we're taking DC, not leaving it in the hands of Communist.
Carpet bomb it with mandatory retail job application forms. That should clear it out.
I was thinking work boots, but I guess they fall a little faster
jogging boots?
Hey Justinian retook rome from ostrogothic italy the metaphor still stands.
nuke the site form orbit
It's the only way to be sure.
I’ll go get Rosie O’Donnell, no need to waste a perfectly good nuke. We’ll just drop her fat fucking ass on DC. I expect no survivors.
Are you insane? Thats at least a 500 megaton explosion you're talking about.
Who needs the east coast anyway? If you don’t want the center of the US, I can drop Lizzo. California May be the only state left tho after the blast.
Now imagine dropping Meghan McCain.
Bob "Super Dave Osborne" Einstein
I think you gotta rin the option there..maybe a screen play. You gonna run that tho you get on the Bus.
Yeah, he missed the point completely. There’s nothing magical about DC. In fact, major cities would collapse without the hard working patriots living there, paying taxes, being neighborly, contributing to society, etc.
Patriots everywhere should abandon big cities and leave them to rot under their own liberal ideologies. Quit being a tool for them to exploit.
Leftist enclaves already fell into massive debt, and they just used Covid as an excuse to use your money to bail them out.
I’m doing my part!
I got bad news for you.we make fuel out here in the middle of nowhere too.we really dont need your cities.
Do we really want them to, though?
Care to elaborate further on the famine and insanely high death rates? I understand what you’re getting at with the pesticides but it seems like a big stretch that every field would be unusable. And you also have to consider the large amounts of land that are currently not being farmed for lack of necessity.
They are all packed in so nice and tight!
We will not surrender one square inch of this sacred land to these scumbags.
We will fight and bleed and die to preserve One Nation, under God.
The military needs to choose a side. Inaction is a betrayal of their oath.
Former DC resident here. There’s nothing sacred about DC. That town fucking sucks and always has. They should leave the monuments and historic structures and burn everything else to the ground.
I said sacred LAND.
The satanic structures built upon it can be torn down and replaced. The meaningless paperwork within them can be incinerated.
So, the Neutron solution you say?
It's nice and clean and quick and gets things done.
This problem isnt fixed in one state only. Its urbanites vs rural areas, rich elites vs the common man, nationalist vs globalist, Americans vs segrigationist... we owe it to our children to won this fight on all fronts.
The election was stolen beyond any doubt (and they even bragged about their fraud before the election, https://streamable.com/671nup , and Trump warned everyone long before the election about mail-in ballot voting fraud). The fail-safes (such as the Supreme Court) failed, with few options left such as the ammunition box.
And, funnily enough, the Biden administration have done all kinds of things, but in particular reg. the 2nd amendment... with the 2nd amendment being the main barrier slowing down the enslavement and extermination of the people of the USA.
Given the utterly dire circumstances, I can definitely see the arguments and reasons for abandoning the current federal government and the like, and either secede or create something new or the like. For if elections can be stolen, anything goes, and the communists, deep state, leftists, etc., very much want enslavement and extermination. But secession, splitting up, even trying to reform or tear down and then create something new (reforming/tearing down and create anew if things go very wrong is as I recall something I have argued for some months ago, including at least not paying taxes and only pay taxes to systems and groups you have personally vetted and are actually represented genuinely in - paying taxes to those who seek your enslavement and complete extinction is... especially if they have fewer and fewer barriers and are trying to weaken and abolish the 2nd amendment... ), all have considerable dangers. For the world is global now, and many of the enemies of the USA will most likely be more than happy to prevent the USA or its people and members from becoming anywhere near a great power (or even existing in the first place, even remnants of it).
I don't see good options, though not doing anything for an extended period of time is as far as I can see a losing and very dangerous strategy - the leftist administration, the deep state, the leftists, communists, etc., are not at all resting. Though the 2nd amendment buys time, which is one reason they very much want to get rid of it and weaken it as much as possible.
That's where you are wrong.
The 2nd Amendment is the answer.
The founders put that amendment 2nd for the very reasons we are seeing today.
Except for Kristi Noem, everyone in high office locked down free Americans - and many are still imprisoned in violation of the 1st Amendment protections of our God given freedoms .. over the fucking seasonal sniffles!
What does everyone think the 2nd Amendment was for, if not to push back against such tyranny?
People are too much of pussies to do anything. If you want something done right, you’ve got to do it yourself.
In theory, couldn't it be both? :)
The military has already chosen a side, that’s why Biden was installed.
They chose a side, it wasn’t ours.
Like the meme, but historically it's not really true.
The Eastern and Western factions of the Empire had existed since Diocletian divided it administratively in 285, nearly two centuries before the Western empire fell. There were some, but not many, good times even after this.
But here's where it gets even more like what we're seeing now.
From the third century onward, the Roman empire faced a series of challenges. Though the Eastern and Western Empires were really only divided administratively, the East was spared all the problems that faced the West. Namely, the waves of Gothic immigration. Not invasion, just immigration. This weakened them and made them more prone to invasion in turn. The armies were increasingly "Germanised", and as time went on there wasn't much that kept the Western Roman Empire 'Roman'. It fell apart due to factionalism and division, while the united East stayed strong and continued on for centuries.
Lesson being that we need to keep based states based so they can survive and form a new power when the cucked states fall.
It’s actually pretty close. 872 miles Rome>Constantinople, 854 DC>Palm Beach. “As the crow flies” of course.
If anyone want to confirm, they can do so here:
https://www.gps-coordinates.net/distance
Just saying.... You can make any 2 points line up if you change the scaling.
18 mile difference. That’s just 2% difference.
You’re not wrong. You may have noticed the complete rotation of the coordinate system. That doesn’t negate the point that capitols can move.
Mark my words, in Europe the new capital after Brussels will be Budapest
Bruuuhhhhhhh
THIS IS WHAT I HAVE BEEN TELLING YOU PEOPLE.
We will be STRONGER without all the mopey suicidal self hating assholes who don't know how to do anything. Most manufacturing, energy production, farming, and water is in the red states. The blue state economy is entirely tertiary sector, entirely derivative. In what world would splitting make us weaker? We are the Eastern Roman Empire.
Worries about China? You're an idiot. China isn't stupid enough to invade a place where every blade of grass would have a sniper, and they won't pick a fight with a new nation that has confidence in itself and isn't worried about being "nice" in a war.
I'm halfway through "The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire"'s 8 volumes right now. Their decline took a few centuries and there were tons of reasons why.
But so far imo the largest reason for the decline was the emergence of christianity within the Empire. That led to a lot of christians wanting to spread the gospel or whatever one wants to call it. So they let in hoardes of Germanic barbarians from the north while having unreliable lines of communication to the west and east. This led to internal strife and power struggles over the course of a hundred fifty or so years. Overbloated government didn't help at all either. Then at some point most of their citizens had no allegiance to Rome and sorta just stopped paying taxes and the Legions had become spread thin so they didn't have a way to project power to ensure that farther regions of the empire paid their taxes. Decadence of the bureaucratic and middle class didn't help either.
Sooo many reasons but the US is following along many of those as we speak. Scary shit.
Their generals were phucking enuchs. Rome burns. Theend
The fuck it was due to the Christians. Funny how Rome could be conquered by satanic Arians and have that blamed on the Christians. But these Arians started Catholicism, so I suppose to the winner goes the spoils.
as of jan 2021 Americans have what is called Taxation Without Representation.
I like to call it "No subjugation without representation"
OK, I like where youre going with that.
Very orthodox interpretation
slow clap
Can we start having elections and send representatives to Mar A Lago? I would be for that.
I'm not interested in a peaceful secession, I want communist blood.
This is what needs to happen. If we could get five good emperors, starting with Donald Trump, we would have a chance to change the culture in this nation. However, the cancer is terminal. Democrats look like us, but they're not like us. We need to get as far away from them and their bad ideas as possible. This would be the best thing that could ever happen to them, if we had the old Confederacy, because we would secure the southern border. It would buy them another hundred years before it was like Escape From New York.
The Confederacy WAS DEMOCRATS. FFS.
Most of the Confederate States are red now.
Oh wow it matches up when you twist and turn it a bunch of different ways. That means 4 more years for sure.
lol ok. What’s your point?
Most ceilings are made from ceiling.
In a straight line Rome to Constantinople (now Istanbul) is 855 miles. From Washington D.C. to Mar-A-Lago is 862 miles. That's a 7 mile difference. Just saying.....
Poor South Dakota never gets the credit they deserve. Only Constitutional State in the country that remembered American are Self Governed and our Representatives don't rule us, they represent us because we are busy building/maintaining the country.
You're likely referring to the attempted reconquest of rome by Justinian and the subsequent so called plague of Justinian.
It is possible the Eastern empire would have reconquered most of the now defunct Western empire. It's also interesting to me that the rise of islam can also be tied to the weakening of the Eastern empire due to this plague and other issues. Islam was quickly able to overrun large and very wealthy parts of the Eastern empire. Perhaps a stronger Eastern empire could have resisted that and islam would be largely forgotten to history.
Cut the rot to save the body
... but keep our land in the process.
All DC labor should be split up as much as possible and dispersed to the 50 states. Heck id even support a move for the capital to Des Moines or something central even.
We have a golden dome for a state Capitol we could use another one
Florida-Texas alliance. All others who are worthy and for the Republic can join. All others can perish under communism.
Gonna need strong borders to keep my and cali from immigrating with there cancer.
If we can't drain the swamp, we must all move out of it!
Trump was USA's very last chance!
After that... the only way to MAGA is:
SECESSION!
SECESSION!
SECESSION!
DEMAND #REXIT - RED
STATECOUNTY INDEPENDENCE!25% ALREADY SUPPORT IT!
Without secession, we are under the boot of the communists. They control the media, the academia, and all major online platforms. They
wonstole the House, Senate, and the Presidency. They will end the Electoral College, import tens of millions of low-IQ moochers (especially to Texas), add DC & PR statehood, and have total political control!We need political migration to Republican-majority counties: ideally in solid-red states, and ideally not landlocked. Buy up all the land, vote out all the commies, and do Gandhi-style non-violent resistance until we are free!
UPVOTE ALL POSTS ABOUT SECESSION!
HELP SPREAD THE WORD!
Once the dam cracks, secession will take off all over the world (especially Russia, China, etc). Down with globalism, down with all empires, all power to Individual Rights and local communities between which people can vote with their feet! When governments compete, brains and capital flow towards greatest economic freedom, socialism runs out of other people's money, and LIBERTY SHALL PREVAIL!
Justinian and Belisarius....
If our Istanbul becomes Constantinople, we're fucked.
God Bless Florida
Glad I’m fairly close to The Real President’s House
Exact same distance, roughly 850 miles.
Damn.
Hopefully maralago dont turn into istanbul
I would love it if we ditched the swamp. All hail Donald, the first of his name.
In case anyone cares, you can get any two points to overlap if you scale them, but I checked this out and yeah it’s within a small margin of error.
Yeah, from Rome to Constantinople is 855 miles, from D.C. to Mar-A-Lago is 862.....a 7 mile difference.
Technically we would split into three. Since the coasts would have a giant red wall between them.
I’d die to defend New Constantinople.
I always wondered why the south chose to place their capital in the backyard of their enemy's capital.
Probably didnt think lincoln would keep attacking them when they left peacefully
Only this time, we're not letting any Damn Muslim Turks take over
Not really. I don't see another realistic way out. We just won a landslide election and it didn't fucking matter.
This is where I'm at too. I think our power lies within our states. It's easier to gather in numbers and protest at your state capitol. It's easier to find ways to get ourselves into positions of power to help secure our elections. It's easier to get regular people who are true Patriots elected in state elections.
We must increase our influence and power in local and state govts before we can ever try to take on the feds.
Actually I’m hardcore anti-China. Every chance I get to say “Fuck the CCP” you know I’m gonna do it. I just believe that secession should be considered at the least. The federal government is too corrupt and half the country is insistent on ushering in this new corrupt order. Every year we lose more states to fraud. I also believe that secession should be legal as a matter of principle. America is itself a secessionist state and we can’t claim to support the ideals of freedom and self-determination while barring secession.
Anyone who understands how humans work throughout history should be able to see its inevitable
These rifts happen all the time - it’s in our cellular dna to divide.
How do you think nations and cities have been founded thru millennia?
We form, come together, get too big and break apart, repeat
No, I get the feeling China shills post denying the one true solution that would make the true America even stronger
Yeah, I immediately suspect China shill when I see people here calling for civil war or the balkanization of America.
In those situations, the only real winner is China.
and if we stick together we can become communist just like China!
-Communists and Hopium fiends thinking we will ever reconcile this shit
most people think this and it is why I dont think we will win this
We have FAR more people willing to kill and die on our side. You gotta believe
they arent going to do anything if they are led to believe that voting and donating to political puppets and controlled opposition groups will keep the Chinese boogeymen from invading.
Not always. I think a lot of the secession folk think it will stop a civil war. But were it to happen, how would USAs assets be divided: military, intelligence, etc
No, the winner is the rest of America that doesn’t succumb to leftist rot.
When surgery is done on cancer the goal is to save the rest of the body from the tumor
"If you saw off your foot to escape a bear trap, the only real winner is the bear trap."
Good point I want decades of chinese control and government murder while we fake elections to fight the chinese that run our country .
Until Muslims overtook Constantinople, thanks to the inaction of Rome.
Make Istanbul Constantinople Again
Don't you have a map using a legit dating system? CE/BCE is anti-christian bs
Using a system based on what was thought as the birth of Christ and merely pc-ing it's name is just anti-christian snowflakery.
You either make or use another system with proper justification (French revolutionary calendar for example), Or you use the current one and call a spade a spade.
My how the turntables
Then the Vandals overrun their borders and burn Rome. But our borders are already being overrun.
Plenty of people will get there by ocean though.
The Caribbean Islands aren't that much better than South America and Mexico. I'll give you Cuba, but you'd have a lot of Haitians and Dominicans, etc.
guess which side of this split has all the guns, construction equipment and diesel...
I would comply with most suggestions made by Donald Trump. I will do nothing that Slow Joe commands without the use of a tank.
The only realistic situation that will reform the country is conservatives, Independents & libertarians using the exact same mechanisms as the Democrats & left to "win" elections.
We need to realize we're in 4th and 5th generational warfare.
You do know that the Roman empire was divided into eastern and western before the collapse right?
This is both silly and awesome
partially true, most of the artisans govt officials, military's élite went to Constantinople.
WOW!
Instead of splitting America, may I propose Alberta and Saskatchewan join the union and tip the scales back to the right?
They can join free America
...what the fuck?