I can create a pot and thus, the pot is created as a pot. If it falls, it will break. Doesn't change that the pot was originally a pot. Just means it's broken now.
Mankind was created in the image of God. Sinless and without blemish, thus, able to walk in His presence. We fell and we're thusly broken. Doesn't mean we weren't originally in the image of God.
If we were created in his image, then we would have been impervious to sin, manipulation, temptation, or disobedience. If you created that pot, and you created the table, and gravity, and knew the pot would fall, then you are faulty.
Religion doesn't do shit other than make plebs complacent with their shitty ass lives. Just because leftists are amoral swine does not mean religion is the answer.
No, that's just you wanting to be God. It never said "God created gods" it said "God created man in His image." You are adding the misunderstanding that being created in an image is the same as creating a copy.
We were created sinless, just as God is sinless. We aren't all knowing, all powerful and existing outside the constraints of the physical world either. Never were even at the beginning. Bible never advocates that. Doesn't change that aspects of our humanity were created in God's image.
God made the pot and gave it the ability not to fall. It chose to fall. I suppose you would also advocate that those who make guns and bullets are responsible for the damage they can create as well.
Pots don't make any decisions about what they do. They are inanimate objects. If they fell, it's because of gravity and whatever forces knocked them down.
If humans were made in god's image and they still sinned anyways, then god is also a sinner.
The analogy to guns doesn't work unless you want to argue that god created sin for us to use responsibly.
Adam was cteated in Gods image, Eve was created by God from Adam, the serpent Satan tempted Even to disobey God, Eve convinced Adam to join her, Adam and Eve fell from the garden, man then fell into sin and became depraved.
That's how pretty much all "arguments" by atheists are. Every atheist acts like they came up with some brand new zinger that no one's ever been able to answer, not realizing that theologians wrote entire libraries of books answering the question sometime in the 500s.
"Why would you believe in sometimes as dum as the Trinity!?"
"Have you read Augustine's explanation?"
"Who Augustine?"
If you aren't going to do the slightest amount of research into the answers to your questions, don't go around acting like your questions are unanswerable.
Well theres a lot of misinformation and disinformation about the Bible due to either misinterpretations or just straight up lies to make God and His written word look bad, so I can understand to a certain extent. Then again, all you have to do is ask God for understanding and discernment and read it for yourself.
Well that's correct. That's why King James Version is the way to go. A near perfect translation and not an interpretation.
From what we have found in the dead sea scrolls and other ancient scrolls of old biblical books the KJV has been proven time and time again to be near identical.
Only in the last 100 years was the english bible multiple times been rewritten and deluded to such a degree that people have a hard time figuring out what to read and trusting the bible.
And who do you think would be behind that? God or Satan?
“27 So God created man in His own image, in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them. 28 God blessed them; and God said to them, “Be fruitful and multiply, and fill the earth, and subdue it; and rule over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the sky and over every living thing that moves on the earth.” 29 Then God said, “Behold, I have given you every plant yielding seed that is on the surface of all the earth, and every tree which has fruit yielding seed; it shall be food for you; 30 and to every animal of the earth and to every bird of the sky and to everything that moves on the earth which has life, I have given every green plant for food”; and it was so. 31 And God saw all that He had made, and behold, it was very good.” - Genesis 1:27-31
Fast forward to:
“3 Now the serpent was more cunning than any animal of the field which the Lord God had made. And he said to the woman, “Has God really said, ‘You shall not eat from any tree of the garden’?” 2 The woman said to the serpent, “From the fruit of the trees of the garden we may eat; 3 but from the fruit of the tree which is in the middle of the garden, God has said, ‘You shall not eat from it or touch it, or you will die.’” 4 The serpent said to the woman, “You certainly will not die! 5 For God knows that on the day you eat from it your eyes will be opened, and you will become like God, knowing good and evil.” 6 When the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was a delight to the eyes, and that the tree was desirable to make one wise, she took some of its fruit and ate; and she also gave some to her husband with her, and he ate. 7 Then the eyes of both of them were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together and made themselves waist coverings.“ - Genesis 3:1-7
“17 Therefore if anyone is in Christ, this person is a new creation; the old things passed away; behold, new things have come. 18 Now all these things are from God, who reconciled us to Himself through Christ and gave us the ministry of reconciliation, 19 namely, that God was in Christ reconciling the world to Himself, not counting their wrongdoings against them, and He has committed to us the word of reconciliation. - 2 Corinthians 5:17-19
Ive been studying the Bible probably more years than you've been alive. Ive been studying the Christian religion a lot longer than Ive actually had a relationship with God.
One thing I learned through my studies is that religion has placed God in a box. Each sect of christianity has pre packaged answers for tough questions that give the religious person comfort. Each person whole heartedly believes their answer is the only correct God-approved answer. Each person believes they have been given the correct answer by God. Yet each person's answer is different.
I only got answers when I looked past man's interpretations of tje Bible and listened to God.
If you want to really hear God, you must put religion aside and cozy up to the father who loves you like you love your children.
Do we have free will? We are products of our experiences. The choices you will make will be a result of who you are, and who you are is based on what you have experienced and your ability to retain and process information. You don't have free will, you just think you do because it's comforting.
If we are created in the image of God and we are depraved, does that mean God is depraved also?
See: The Fall
I can create a pot and thus, the pot is created as a pot. If it falls, it will break. Doesn't change that the pot was originally a pot. Just means it's broken now.
Mankind was created in the image of God. Sinless and without blemish, thus, able to walk in His presence. We fell and we're thusly broken. Doesn't mean we weren't originally in the image of God.
If we were created in his image, then we would have been impervious to sin, manipulation, temptation, or disobedience. If you created that pot, and you created the table, and gravity, and knew the pot would fall, then you are faulty.
Religion doesn't do shit other than make plebs complacent with their shitty ass lives. Just because leftists are amoral swine does not mean religion is the answer.
No, that's just you wanting to be God. It never said "God created gods" it said "God created man in His image." You are adding the misunderstanding that being created in an image is the same as creating a copy.
We were created sinless, just as God is sinless. We aren't all knowing, all powerful and existing outside the constraints of the physical world either. Never were even at the beginning. Bible never advocates that. Doesn't change that aspects of our humanity were created in God's image.
God made the pot and gave it the ability not to fall. It chose to fall. I suppose you would also advocate that those who make guns and bullets are responsible for the damage they can create as well.
Pots don't make any decisions about what they do. They are inanimate objects. If they fell, it's because of gravity and whatever forces knocked them down.
If humans were made in god's image and they still sinned anyways, then god is also a sinner.
The analogy to guns doesn't work unless you want to argue that god created sin for us to use responsibly.
And no, I don't want to be god. Stop projecting.
Adam was cteated in Gods image, Eve was created by God from Adam, the serpent Satan tempted Even to disobey God, Eve convinced Adam to join her, Adam and Eve fell from the garden, man then fell into sin and became depraved.
It's kinda sad that people continue to ask this when it's literally in the first couple chapters of the most popular book in history.
That's how pretty much all "arguments" by atheists are. Every atheist acts like they came up with some brand new zinger that no one's ever been able to answer, not realizing that theologians wrote entire libraries of books answering the question sometime in the 500s.
"Why would you believe in sometimes as dum as the Trinity!?"
"Have you read Augustine's explanation?"
"Who Augustine?"
If you aren't going to do the slightest amount of research into the answers to your questions, don't go around acting like your questions are unanswerable.
Kinds like how the left always has an "expert" or "scientists" that has confirmed whatever narrative they're trying to push as an established fact.
Nah, I don't need your experts to tell me that some magical man in the sky is totally real.
Well theres a lot of misinformation and disinformation about the Bible due to either misinterpretations or just straight up lies to make God and His written word look bad, so I can understand to a certain extent. Then again, all you have to do is ask God for understanding and discernment and read it for yourself.
Well that's correct. That's why King James Version is the way to go. A near perfect translation and not an interpretation.
From what we have found in the dead sea scrolls and other ancient scrolls of old biblical books the KJV has been proven time and time again to be near identical.
Only in the last 100 years was the english bible multiple times been rewritten and deluded to such a degree that people have a hard time figuring out what to read and trusting the bible.
And who do you think would be behind that? God or Satan?
“27 So God created man in His own image, in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them. 28 God blessed them; and God said to them, “Be fruitful and multiply, and fill the earth, and subdue it; and rule over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the sky and over every living thing that moves on the earth.” 29 Then God said, “Behold, I have given you every plant yielding seed that is on the surface of all the earth, and every tree which has fruit yielding seed; it shall be food for you; 30 and to every animal of the earth and to every bird of the sky and to everything that moves on the earth which has life, I have given every green plant for food”; and it was so. 31 And God saw all that He had made, and behold, it was very good.” - Genesis 1:27-31
Fast forward to:
“3 Now the serpent was more cunning than any animal of the field which the Lord God had made. And he said to the woman, “Has God really said, ‘You shall not eat from any tree of the garden’?” 2 The woman said to the serpent, “From the fruit of the trees of the garden we may eat; 3 but from the fruit of the tree which is in the middle of the garden, God has said, ‘You shall not eat from it or touch it, or you will die.’” 4 The serpent said to the woman, “You certainly will not die! 5 For God knows that on the day you eat from it your eyes will be opened, and you will become like God, knowing good and evil.” 6 When the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was a delight to the eyes, and that the tree was desirable to make one wise, she took some of its fruit and ate; and she also gave some to her husband with her, and he ate. 7 Then the eyes of both of them were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together and made themselves waist coverings.“ - Genesis 3:1-7
The “serpent” is a fallen spiritual rebel.
https://youtu.be/CamYtVpoTNk
A word study by Dr Michael Heiser explains the context.
https://youtu.be/xWvGVCPldkI
“17 Therefore if anyone is in Christ, this person is a new creation; the old things passed away; behold, new things have come. 18 Now all these things are from God, who reconciled us to Himself through Christ and gave us the ministry of reconciliation, 19 namely, that God was in Christ reconciling the world to Himself, not counting their wrongdoings against them, and He has committed to us the word of reconciliation. - 2 Corinthians 5:17-19
No. Read the Bible.
The Bible says we are created in Gods image.
wrong.. read more about the fail and the "we"
Ive been studying the Bible probably more years than you've been alive. Ive been studying the Christian religion a lot longer than Ive actually had a relationship with God.
One thing I learned through my studies is that religion has placed God in a box. Each sect of christianity has pre packaged answers for tough questions that give the religious person comfort. Each person whole heartedly believes their answer is the only correct God-approved answer. Each person believes they have been given the correct answer by God. Yet each person's answer is different.
I only got answers when I looked past man's interpretations of tje Bible and listened to God.
If you want to really hear God, you must put religion aside and cozy up to the father who loves you like you love your children.
God’s image is mind, will and emotion. We’re not robots, we have free will.
Do we have free will? We are products of our experiences. The choices you will make will be a result of who you are, and who you are is based on what you have experienced and your ability to retain and process information. You don't have free will, you just think you do because it's comforting.