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NotAPuma 211 points ago +212 / -1

Glad to see Republicans fighting tooth and nail as usual!

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CommunismIsForLosers 120 points ago +121 / -1

Exactly why I am no longer one of them.

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Commiesarenotpeople 74 points ago +76 / -2

Seeing people talk about this person or that person running as a Republican drives me crazy. Not only is the party completely corrupt, the vote is rigged anyway.

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glow-operator-2-0 42 points ago +43 / -1

Yet GEOTUS still wants to salvage the corpse or the infrastructure of the GOP

IDK. Trumpism won't die off, but the current GOP establishment is dead to me.

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Keith 22 points ago +28 / -6

You can't cut the party in half or even 80/20 and expect to win. It is what it is. Long term it might work, do you got 25 years to see if Patriot/Lion party comes to fruition and thrives. Easier to evolve than to split

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JackLemon 12 points ago +16 / -4

You got 25 years to reform a throughly corrupt, globalist owned and controlled Republican party? A party that has proven for decades they will cheat and even collaborate with their Democrat colleagues in the uni-party to steal a national election. A party that for decades openly ignores and ridicules the will of its own voter base.

Much better and faster to destroy and create a new party than to try and reform an irreparably corrupt one.

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Ishaye 9 points ago +11 / -2

These morons think the republican establishment won't fight them. They won't fight democrats but they will damn sure fight their constituents tooth and nail.

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Hades440 0 points ago +2 / -2

And then what? Either we fail as a party, which isn't good, or we succeed which draws in the snakes who will pretend to be on our side to get power and then betray us, which also isn't good.

There is no win scenario here.

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ShitpostHunterD 1 point ago +1 / -0

Who said we need a party?

Minecraft needs a hard reset. Perhaps some new coding to establish set rules of the community as well as a system to permanently ban users from the world who break the rules.

Perhaps we all need to LEARN TO CODE. In minecraft.

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quell2 4 points ago +5 / -1

As long as Dominion and others control elections, any Republican/Patriot/Lion we choose is never going to win anyway. It's better to destroy the GOP and form our own party as a message at least, than to continue trying to sustain a corrupt, cancerous tumor that masquerades as "our" party.

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LatitudeofMind -1 points ago +11 / -12

The Republican Party is the vessel on which we either lose or win. Don’t fall for the psy op, and this doesn’t mean we shouldn’t take the vote fraud seriously.

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JackLemon 4 points ago +13 / -9

Lol. Republican shill alert. The Republican party is the enemy of the People and the America First agenda as much or more than the DemonRats.

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LatitudeofMind 4 points ago +6 / -2

Following trump is the guiding principal of this forum, and that’s what I’m doing. The republicucks are so glad people like you are taking their ball and going home. This is a generational fight. It’ll take years. We are taking over the Republican Party.

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Jimmyprawns 3 points ago +4 / -1

Let's Quit shill alert.

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JackLemon -2 points ago +3 / -5

What a stupid waste of time.

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BeijingJoeHastoGo 1 point ago +1 / -0

Fuck that and fuck you. The republictard party is the downfall of our country and so are its supporters.

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LatitudeofMind 1 point ago +1 / -0

You’ve been brainwashed. This is getting bad

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SteelBallRun1890 13 points ago +14 / -1

I feel the threats were really laid out the night of the 6th when he was cut off from media and went silent. He also just wasn't the same after. I do agree he could have done more to prevent the steal sadly.

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SleeperAg20 7 points ago +8 / -1

100% this. Trump had several plays but chose not to. Now, we're fucked.

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idea 22 points ago +22 / -0

How much more proof and how many more realizations is it going to take for everyone to admit that it's over and time to fight?

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Manofmanytrades 9 points ago +9 / -0

Which has more chance of success for Patriots, a hot war or working through the system? I’d say a hot war with patriots in masse, and I believe the establishment thinks that too..hence the national guard in DC. Will it happen? I don’t know. People tend to have an aversion to having their lives upset and sacrifice. If you could convince even 2-300,000 to be on the same page to do what needed to be done, the establishment would lose. If enough people come to the same conclusion and act on it, it could happen I guess.

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polJosephWatson 10 points ago +10 / -0

I don't think it will though. You're right. People are too scared and too comfortable to disrupt their lives, too lazy because they think someone else will fix it, and/or too dumb to realize this is going to affect them too.

It's possible, sure. But no matter if there is a hot war or isn't, this country is over already.

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BarrysCellM8 10 points ago +11 / -1

People seem to think a 'hot war' is commies from Blue shitholes lining up in a field across from patriots and letting the lead fly. That is such a retarded grasp of what a hot war would look like today.

You have ~450 counties across the nation that voted Biden, that control and impose their will on their states. A hot war could be as easy as blockading them and starving them out. Imagine what would happen in places like Portland or Seattle that have their entire reliance on I5, if you just shut that down for a week. The commies would be killing themselves over supplies and we wouldn't need for fire a single round. An actual civil war could be ended in a week, we just don't have the nuts to get off our lazy asses and get it done.

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DickTick 2 points ago +6 / -4

There is not going to be any type of fucking hot war and anybody who thinks there is an idiot with no common sense.... of course there will be pockets of conflict every now and then like there was last summer, but that's all it's ever going to be....

We are already at war and have already been at War for quite some time. It's only just now becoming completely mainstream...

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idea 11 points ago +11 / -0

not going to be any...war

You're absolutely right. And that's why it's over.

There's no war going on right now at all. There is only one side, taking whatever they want, with no actual resistance whatsoever. Anyone opposed is merely providing commentary.

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SteelBallRun1890 2 points ago +2 / -0

Fuck I want off this wild ride. I can't be the only one that went nuts when the steal happened, and now have taken a step back but hear a little alarm go off in my head when I hear or see Biden did something because the whole thing is totally fake, right? Or just the notion that mentioning the steal or coup in average life scenarios would cause most people to think you're crazy or have the whole story backwards? Clown world has never been so applicable.

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idea 5 points ago +5 / -0

It's all fake but they dgaf

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Chairman_Jao_Bi_Den 9 points ago +9 / -0

Republican exist to LOSE.

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crazyjackel 5 points ago +5 / -0

They refuse to use tactics, except delay tactics. That is all they are good at.

They have much safer and reasonable ideas concerning a lot of issues, but they can’t win against the democrats who use Tactics to push through stuff that your average informed American hates.

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Chairman_Jao_Bi_Den 1 point ago +1 / -0

Bro, the RINOs (Manchurian agents) GUARANTEE the globalists get their way.

There is no peaceful way out. There is an old saying:

"You can peacefully accept Communism, but you'll have to shoot your way out of it."

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vote_for_MAGA_2020 6 points ago +6 / -0

Of course the Grahamnesty faggot voted for Garland and Scott (who is up for re-election) voted against him. Great optics you GOP fsggots.

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Monsterfan 2 points ago +2 / -0

Doesn't matter. Both must go.

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ImGumbyDammit 2 points ago +2 / -0

They’re all democrats, they just tricked everyone to get elected.

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bothloveocean 8 points ago +8 / -0

I didn’t leave the GOP, the GOP left me.

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christianknight 0 points ago +1 / -1

This is not the way. The R party is corrupt. Even if you got in they will stop you from rising.

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JackLemon 0 points ago +6 / -6

Lol. Republican shills trying to sell the ridiculous idea that becoming a lowly, pissant in a irreparably corrupt and globalist owned Republican party is going to be effective.

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Corona 0 points ago +1 / -1

o/

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MAGAsJustBegun 28 points ago +29 / -1

Our house republicans are good... It's the senate where all the major corruption is at.

Fuck both parties. I do want to keep the republican party, but gut it and make it our own

Marjorie Taylor Green should be the majority speaker one day, not these scumbag fucks.

BTW, if Trump decides to run in 2024, Don Jr should be his VP.

He knows he can trust him to do what's in his best interests, no matter what.

IDK the full reality behind Pence. I'm waiting for Trump to explain exactly what happened, and see if he's going to work with Pence or not in the future. Not sure yet.

But Don Jr might have kept Trump in office possibly.

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Madpoli 20 points ago +22 / -2

I think DeSantis as president would be a much better fighter and more aggressive. If Trump wants to run again though then sure that's great too but he never fought enough to stop the voter fraud before it happened.

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MAGAsJustBegun 29 points ago +29 / -0

What could Trump have truly done all on his own?

I don't think he could've done much. States have the right to dictate how their elections are ran, not the federal government.

Governors have more power of the state than the federal government does, which is why states can openly defy federal law so often.

Ron Desantis is great. Really great. But I don't think he's as radical as Trump, and by radical I mean taking major good steps.

I don't think someone like Ron would be calling out the Federal Reserve.

Trump had a little bit of Ron Paul inside him!

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mainsoda 4 points ago +4 / -0

It isn't that Trump was on his own, it was that Trump played by the rules and was fair. That was his main problem. You can't do that when the other side does whatever it wants, rules be damned. He should have done things he "wasn't supposed to do" or "went out of the bounds of his authority" because the enemy did that every day. He should have done what needed to be done, set objects in front of him for protection and let the fake news just unload on him.

Easy for me to say of course, I have no idea all the pieces moving on the board, but damn, I sure think I'm right on this.

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christianknight 1 point ago +1 / -0

States have the right to dictate how their elections are ran, not the federal government.

That was just changed.

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zooty 1 point ago +1 / -0

He wasn't so much on his own. Officials may not have been worth shit but he had a lot of the public behind him who could potentially have been energized more to guard against and record the fraud. Maybe encourage sympathetic police to help ensure observers were given access like the democrats did to make sure observers were unlawfully expelled. More could have been involved with the election boards too.

Thousands standing and cheering in stadiums and airports is all well and good but how about putting that energy to use protecting the election. Trump's silence on the issue made everyone think Trump had things in hand and allowed the Q-anon nonsense to flourish. .

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Barbs 7 points ago +7 / -0

The best President in modern history wasn’t “out of his league.” Lol.

Frankly I’m fucking impressed how much he was able to get done in the face of monumental opposition from even within his own party.

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JackLemon -1 points ago +2 / -3

Oh look another piece of Schiff Republican shill trying to undermine support for the greatest President in modern history. I wonder if McConnell and McCarthy outsource their trolls and shills from Soros? It wouldn't even be slightly surprising if they did.

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FaRmErX2000 1 point ago +2 / -1

Check my history I’m not a troll just a realist

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RonJoner 8 points ago +9 / -1

It's easy to sit here and second guess Trump.

It's not fair. If we thought of it, HE thought of it. He still had to get all his picks confirmed by the Senate.

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caKAG 7 points ago +7 / -0

I think Trump trusted some people that turned into letdowns and backstabbers. He won't make that mistake again. We now know who can be counted on, and who are on the bandwagon riding the Trump Wave and jumping off at the first sign of trouble, for more money, or when there was nothing more for them to gain.

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Monsterfan 2 points ago +2 / -0

But I understand he is still endorsing some of the usual suspects in the Senate for reelection. If that is so I have really begun to doubt his strategy. They all must go! If I can see that he can too.

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JackLemon 3 points ago +5 / -2

Bullshit. There was nothing he could do. The traitorous and never should be supported again Republican party did all they could to destroy his Presidency including collaborating with the Dimocrats to steal the election. Trump's own VP, AG and many in his cabinet betrayed him. Trump had no support. He even ran out of money during his campaign thanks to the Republicans.

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luche09 2 points ago +2 / -0

he isnt ready, his chrisma is subpar and he doesnt havea protege or national profile, i see him as great vice president though, he will keep trump on track and could build his national profile , also sets up a him and trump jr 2028 run easily

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HiddenDekuScrub 7 points ago +7 / -0

Conventionofstates.com

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MAGAsJustBegun 3 points ago +3 / -0

What's this? A movement to enact a constitutional convention?

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HiddenDekuScrub 4 points ago +4 / -0

A convention of states is not a constitutional convention. There's a difference.

But anyway, there's been a grassroots campaign for some time now to impose term limits on congress. And since you would never get congress to agree, this is the only way.

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Peart44 4 points ago +4 / -0

This!!

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henri_derelicte 2 points ago +2 / -0

Personally, I’d go with Jim Jordan as speaker.

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JackLemon 1 point ago +3 / -2

The House Republicans are almost as bad as the Senate. These are the same scum who voted for John Boner, Paul Ryan and Ryan's cabin boy McCarthy as their leaders. Less than 10% of them are patriot America Firsters while more than that are openly hostile to that agenda.

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Bubbahax 18 points ago +18 / -0

I got a mailer from the RP yesterday asking for donations. I returned it with a note that they were dead to me. If they do nothing while our country was being stolen, what good are they?

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JustHereForTheSalmon 12 points ago +12 / -0

Don't worry, they'll be on Fox News soon complaining about how terrible this is and pretending they didn't just finish voting to confirm.

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TheInvaders 9 points ago +9 / -0

20 of them voted to confirm so not sure if that checks out

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Bilbobaggins 67 points ago +70 / -3

Yep. Seen those stories coming out about trump ‘intimidating’ GA election officials? They’re going to prosecute him and convict. Mark my words.

And the rinos will all disavow him and let it happen. Every single one.

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spezholio 27 points ago +27 / -0

I remember when armed thugs menaced voters at a Philadelphia polling site, and they were never charged with a crime.

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Amaroq64 1 point ago +1 / -0

Was that 2016 or 2020?

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NavySTG 7 points ago +19 / -12

And all these Rambos on here will let it happen, and they'll surrender their firearms too.

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pedoguy 27 points ago +27 / -0

Awful lotta projection

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YourOwnGreatGrandma 5 points ago +5 / -0

You sorta need evidence to convict

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TheNewRepublic 12 points ago +12 / -0

We have Soviet style FBI... show me the man and I’ll show you the crime.

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YourOwnGreatGrandma -3 points ago +2 / -5

Good thing we have the constitution and jury system.

This isn’t the Soviet Union, snowflake. Stop crying and fight back.

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christianknight 2 points ago +2 / -0

Bruh...

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DonJr24 2 points ago +4 / -2

That's cute. You think the Constitution still matters after the shit show that was the election?

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YourOwnGreatGrandma -4 points ago +1 / -5

Yeah and I think you’re an arrogant idiot who has no knowledge of politics or law at all

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DonJr24 1 point ago +2 / -1

Says the little bitch on the Internet.

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Bilbobaggins 8 points ago +8 / -0

Lol

Imagine believing the courts are legitimate

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YourOwnGreatGrandma 0 points ago +2 / -2

Imagine being a dumb conspiracy theorist who just dismissed everything you disagree with out of hand

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BeefyBelisarius 2 points ago +2 / -0

Out of hand? Nah, they're just dismissing it as moot and with no standing.

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pedoguy 4 points ago +5 / -1

Dream on neet.

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henri_derelicte 2 points ago +2 / -0

We need to make it abundantly clear that any criminal indictment of President Trump crosses a red line, whether it comes from Georgia, New York, California, or DC

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TRUMP_1776 65 points ago +66 / -1

I miss Trump more and more everyday

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basedvirginian 14 points ago +14 / -0

Let’s “circle back” to Trump as GEOTUS

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BoughtByBloomberg2 45 points ago +46 / -1

Oh boy Republicans sure got over them principles and values quickly!

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NukeChina 33 points ago +34 / -1

Next time you choose a leader make sure they do not mind the sight of blood.

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Monsterfan 8 points ago +9 / -1

I have begun to consider President Trump as the intermediate leader who was necessary to blow the lid on the total corruption that is modern American government at all levels. But someone else will be needed to come along and do what needs to be done.

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BeefyBelisarius 1 point ago +1 / -0

Yes, which is exactly why the oligarchs are cracking down on right wing communications.

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LacunaCognito 3 points ago +3 / -0

Trump came as the peacemaker, the dealman.

The next populist will be the Warlord.

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ThePatriot_2021 30 points ago +31 / -1

I don’t care how many republicans try to pass themselves off as MAGA. I’m not trusting a single fucking one of them.

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Bax101 18 points ago +18 / -0

We are all bending over to these fuckers destroying the US. It will be so ruined by the time we raise our weapons to them that they won't be around to take revenge upon them.

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CovfefeAnon 14 points ago +14 / -0

Robert Conquest's Three Laws of Politics: 1-Everyone is conservative about what he knows best. 2-Any organization not explicitly right-wing sooner or later becomes left-wing. 3-The simplest way to explain the behavior of any bureaucratic organization is to assume that it is controlled by a cabal of its enemies.

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Nowsthetime 13 points ago +13 / -0

Blunt? Didn’t Trump just praise him?

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Erikabodereka 12 points ago +12 / -0

Blunt is retiring. He takes the hit so that Cruz, Scott, Paul or any other Republican gets to save face.

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Independenceforever 12 points ago +12 / -0

The executive, legislative, and judicial branches ...

...have all sold out the citizens of the United States of America to FOREIGN countries and FOREIGN entities...

that are hostile toward the life, liberty, and property of the United States of America and her citizens.

Our military serves a power structure. They don't serve the actual people of the nation.

WHAT THE HELL IS THIS?

WAKE UP. WE'RE AT WAR.

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Kendoextendo 1 point ago +1 / -0

If only we had the balls to fight back. We’re just letting them peg us at this point.

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CMDRConanAAnderson 12 points ago +12 / -0

The average life expectancy of the gene pool is something to consider here, just an interesting thought. As usual, we are reminded weekly that if we aren't prepared to do what we need to against people who fraudulently steal elections, the window will gradually get smaller and smaller until we wonder how it's even possible anymore. The clock is ticking.

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RiverFenix 2 points ago +2 / -0

I think many are committed but it's going to be an opportunistic sort of thing. We'll each do our part as we watch this bullshit crumble around us.

Not sure exactly what the catalyst will be but it could simply be mass unemployment and a general 'fuck it all' attitude by enough people to choke out the streets and bring everything to a grinding halt.

I think there are enough 'responsible' people out there to ensure critical infrastructure like electricity remains on, but on a town by town basis it isn't guaranteed anyone is coming to 'save you' anymore. If the lines go down because a drunk hit the pole, it's down until someone local fixes it and taps back into the main lines producing something. Same for Radio, gas supply etc..

Enough Patriots, or bad guys, will seize control of critical infrastructure and we'll become highly balkanized for a while. I think 10-15 years from now there will be a semblance of 'sides' again and we'll know full and well who the communists are and who the Americans are. They'll re-unite and fight back.. and its going to be a Long fight.

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infojunkie07 10 points ago +10 / -0

now watch this AG actually act on lefty agenda unlike the beta SOY republicans.

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Drinkup4 10 points ago +10 / -0

I wonder if there was a single cabinet pick by Trump that received 20 Dem votes.

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amilbarge21 10 points ago +10 / -0

Mattis got 30.

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RiverFenix 7 points ago +7 / -0

face palm

we didn't know back then how tight the margins were and had we known then what we know now we would have called MATTIS out for being a traitor much earlier.

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amilbarge21 4 points ago +4 / -0

Sad but true.

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MAGA777Logistics 2 points ago +2 / -0

Oy vey!

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Nationalist2020 10 points ago +10 / -0

This is why 2024 and every election hence is fucking useless.

The deep state is about to fully assimilate the Republic.

Secession or war (very unlikely).

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BadManOrange 9 points ago +9 / -0

Their goal is to make sure Trump doesn't run in 2024. After the disaster that the next 3.5 years are going to be, the last thing they need is for Trump to reappear. They'll have to make 2020's steal look like child's play.

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phandaal 3 points ago +3 / -0

President Kamala gets 100 million votes after having literally no one show up to listen to her whine-screech.

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BillDBlasiosBlackSon 1 point ago +2 / -1

not far from what actually happened tho

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Magastreammedia 8 points ago +9 / -1

Funny how dems always vote one way and it's republicans that we have to worry about.

This time many repubs just voted left. Great

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yurimodin 7 points ago +7 / -0

fuck all the bullshit I still stand by my statement.

#GOP IS ASSHOE

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conservativefrank 6 points ago +6 / -0

"First, as to Garland: A perfect encapsulation of the Republican votes to confirm showcase a who’s who list of TWENTY DeceptiCons: Blunt, Burr, Capito, Cassidy, Collins, Cornyn, Ernst, Graham, Grassley, Inhofe, Johnson, Lankford, McConnell, Moran, Murkowski, Portman, Romney, Rounds, Thune and Tillis. "

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MAGA_MEME 6 points ago +6 / -0

Uniparty - that's why they hate Trump on both sides of the isle.

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POTUS_DonnieJ 6 points ago +6 / -0

If 20 Rs voted to confirm this faggot, we should all be worried that they’ll find 10 Rs to pass their gun grabbing agenda through the senate. Dark times ahead folks. By more ammo. Might be able to pick up a round or two of 9mm with my paycheck this weekend.

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CensoredByMarxists 4 points ago +4 / -0

Was anybody ever confirmed for any important position in Trump administration by that large of a margin? At least 60% of republican politicians are no different than Democrats.

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mainsoda 4 points ago +4 / -0

I hate the republicans so much.

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jsphere256 4 points ago +4 / -0

Antitrust actions against tech monopolies: dismissed

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iIndianaJones 3 points ago +3 / -0

We are fucked.

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maga9999 3 points ago +3 / -0

No better choice for Attorney General than the guy who openly admitted he hadn't thought about any major challenge facing this country.

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RonJoner 3 points ago +3 / -0

CTH might be right, but as RBG proved, you can't force a justice off the bench just because it's politically convenient. Say what you want about Trump's picks, other than Gorsuch, he had to go through hell to get them confirmed.

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RiverFenix 1 point ago +1 / -0

and they stabbed him in the back, except sometimes gorsuch.

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JackLemon 2 points ago +4 / -2

What's this praise for Gorsuch bullshit? The properly described Gorsucks betrayed us and Trump many times. Try to pay attention. Everyone of Trump's SCOTUS picks recommended by the globalist controlled Federalist Society have been utter disasters.

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Hardcouer 3 points ago +3 / -0

These 20 would serve as a great primary list.

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NotoriousCIC 2 points ago +2 / -0

Republicans are absolutely worthless. Dems will create hoaxes, psyops, and make rape accusations against you. They are organized and do whatever they want. Republicans are just absolutely worthless.

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Light_HIV_Effect 2 points ago +2 / -0

As usual the GOP has a case of the feel bads for rejecting his supreme court nomination. McConnel already got his globalist judges in there, so this is just paying off the deepstate and letting Garland get some petty revenge on conservatives.

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winsome 2 points ago +2 / -0

Hope he tries to fire/stop Durham.

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Airvehicle2 2 points ago +2 / -0

Both of my Senators voted against.

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elvisbird 2 points ago +2 / -0

weaponizing the DOJ where former AG Eric Holder left-off.

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XDingoX83 2 points ago +2 / -0

A man who was nominated to be a Supreme Court Justice is the AG now. Shows how dems think. Every Conservative Justice was a judge for most of their careers. Dems just want to abuse the justice system.

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henri_derelicte 2 points ago +2 / -0

What the hell is wrong with the GOP? Are party line votes only a thing for Republican presidents? What is to be gained by collaborating with the Biden regime?

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henri_derelicte 1 point ago +1 / -0

When do we turn our words against the Biden regime into actions?

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Truglow 1 point ago +1 / -0

The war on Americas traditional citizens now has a general. The old man was more of a disaster at his hearings than Biden.

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BeijingJoeHastoGo 1 point ago +1 / -0

Who the fuck were the RINO's who voted for that moron masquerading as a judge?

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Equality72521 1 point ago +1 / -0

Once again giving Obama way too much credit. The man is a high-level used car salesman married to a tranny.

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Seenev 1 point ago +1 / -0

Unbelievable.

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Diotima 1 point ago +1 / -0

i've given up on America. Fallen country.

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stillbringingitback 1 point ago +1 / -0

Does anyone know what his ethnic background is?

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UsurperJoe -2 points ago +3 / -5

Garland is a Jew

This is a fact, not espousing hatred here.

Wikipedia doesn't hid it either. Go look at Biden's apointees. Mostly Jews.

The worst Democrats, go look for yourself.

Big banker types

ADL SPLC

Media controllers

Big tech

Don't take my word for it, look them up.

Wikipedia is proud to acknowledge jews