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(1)
(A)It shall be unlawful for any person who is not a licensed importer, licensed manufacturer, or licensed dealer to transfer a firearm to any other person who is not so licensed, unless a licensed importer, licensed manufacturer, or licensed dealer has first taken possession of the firearm for the purpose of complying with subsection (t).
(B)Upon taking possession of a firearm under subparagraph (A), a licensee shall comply with all requirements of this chapter as if the licensee were transferring the firearm from the inventory of the licensee to the unlicensed transferee.
(C)If a transfer of a firearm described in subparagraph (A) will not be completed for any reason after a licensee takes possession of the firearm (including because the transfer of the firearm to, or receipt of the firearm by, the transferee would violate this chapter), the return of the firearm to the transferor by the licensee shall not constitute the transfer of a firearm for purposes of this chapter.
(2)Paragraph (1) shall not apply to—
(A)a law enforcement agency or any law enforcement officer, armed private security professional, or member of the armed forces, to the extent the officer, professional, or member is acting within the course and scope of employment and official duties;
(B)a transfer that is a loan or bona fide gift between spouses, between domestic partners, between parents and their children, including step-parents and their step-children, between siblings, between aunts or uncles and their nieces or nephews, or between grandparents and their grandchildren, if the transferor has no reason to believe that the transferee will use or intends to use the firearm in a crime or is prohibited from possessing firearms under State or Federal law;
(C)a transfer to an executor, administrator, trustee, or personal representative of an estate or a trust that occurs by operation of law upon the death of another person;
(D)a temporary transfer that is necessary to prevent imminent death or great bodily harm, including harm to self, family, household members, or others, if the possession by the transferee lasts only as long as immediately necessary to prevent the imminent death or great bodily harm, including the harm of domestic violence, dating partner violence, sexual assault, stalking, and domestic abuse;
(E)a transfer that is approved by the Attorney General under section 5812 of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986; or
(F)a temporary transfer if the transferor has no reason to believe that the transferee will use or intends to use the firearm in a crime or is prohibited from possessing firearms under State or Federal law, and the transfer takes place and the transferee’s possession of the firearm is exclusively—
(i)at a shooting range or in a shooting gallery or other area designated for the purpose of target shooting;
(ii)while reasonably necessary for the purposes of hunting, trapping, or fishing, if the transferor—
(I)has no reason to believe that the transferee intends to use the firearm in a place where it is illegal; and
(II)has reason to believe that the transferee will comply with all licensing and permit requirements for such hunting, trapping, or fishing; or
(iii)while in the presence of the transferor.
(3)It shall be unlawful for a licensed importer, licensed manufacturer, or licensed dealer to transfer possession of, or title to, a firearm to another person who is not so licensed unless the importer, manufacturer, or dealer has provided such other person with a notice of the prohibition under paragraph (1), and such other person has certified that such other person has been provided with this notice on a form prescribed by the Attorney General.
(c)Rules of interpretation
Nothing in this Act, or any amendment made by this Act, shall be construed to—
(1)authorize the establishment, directly or indirectly, of a national firearms registry; or
(2)interfere with the authority of a State, under section 927 of title 18, United States Code, to enact a law on the same subject matter as this Act
"..that men are disposed to suffer, while such evils are sufferable..."
Passions and expectations are high on our side. Inaction feels disappointing, nothing is fair or just, but 2020 was only a battle in an ongoing civilizational war. It should serve as a wake-up call to change the way you think about your cultural opposites and your political opponents. Identify those that are enemies and plan accordingly for the future. So far, the future is stupid. I don't see that trend changing soon.
This is exactly what lead to Lexington and Concord.
To the Military Intelligence officer reading this right now, just know that your failure will be documented in the pages of history. You are the reason The West was lost.
Well see my other posts. I see soldiers everyday. Talk to them off and on. Most seem to not care anymore. There will still be small groups/individuals that are patriots but the brass has been infiltrated and this runs out the good guys. Why is there a 60 day pause? Why have standards have been lowered? Guess you don't remember the "vetting" of NG troops around DC.
They have stood by idle while the communists have taken over the country. They are complicit in this coup, until they decide to do something to stop it.
If you can't follow that logic, then you should refrain from further debate.
Tell me about it. I had a discussion with a soldier several days back that was actually defending the government saying none of these dystopian policies will get passed and everything will return to normal and balance out. Brainwashing DOES exist. Probably a member of the 4th Psyop Group
While wearing his mask he kept fiddling with. The military is a joke. Only useful for bombing other countries or taking on third world nations.
Who the fuck are you kidding?! We have been sitting around for months in the face of obvious tyranny as the election was stolen WITH THE HELP OF THE COURTS.
Now all we do is sit around and MEME as an illegitimate government passes obviously UNCONSTITUTIONAL shit like this and HR-1.
The problem with our side is that, memes and patriotic platitudes are ALL WE HAVE. We have no resolve to do anything more than bitch about while the enemies of liberty continue their assault on everything we once held dear.
So go ahead and downvote the shit out of this comment! Like everything else we do here, it MEANS NOTHING!
We all sit around because we still have too much to lose. We own homes. We have families. Many still have jobs. People aren't willing to stand up because no one else stands up with them yet. Won't be like that forever though. Waiting for that straw to break.
You'll still be waiting for that leadership even as you're being loaded into the box car.
And if there's leadership before then you'll insist that you'll wait for something else. Sunny skies? Planetary alignment? The end of salmon spawning season?
By the time it does, it will likely be too late. What we needed was for Trump to lead us to the Capitol to do what's required. But instead, he walked away, even knowing that he was effectively handing the country over to an illegitimate government and that we would be in the grip of the very tyranny that our Founding Father's tried to prepare us for.
And 99% of the Founding Father's were rich guys. Very rich, wealth disparity was enormous back then, many of the FF's lived like royalty. They were a relatively small group and the crown knew who each of them were specifically, so they were sacrificing literally everything. None of us could even come close to sacrificing as much as they did, not counting the very few, the 0.2% that would make the ultimate sacrifice. Imo we are without excuse, except we are without leadership and organization. Both of which are poor excuses for the evil we are starring down.
Our forefathers were patient, too. They levied taxes, tariffs, and patrolled the streets with free standing armies. The parallels with today's events are scarily close. When the lobster-backs came for the guns, that broke the camels back.
Trump will hopefully return. And I hope he is being strategic already about it. Going to get rid of the RINO governors well ahead of time and then get states to fix their crappy mail-in voting laws and dominion usage.
He's already started on Georgia. Need to fix Georgia along with about 3 other states and he will win again in a landslide.
Help Trump fix 3 or 4 states. That is the most important thing. Not the royal family, not transgender issues, not superstraight. This gun shit obviously needs to be pushed back on though.
Honestly the MAGA movement has left Trump behind at this point. He was far too soft and "diplomatic" in all the instances that mattered, and now we have this. Trump's inaction and empty promises share a LARGE portion of the blame for the current state of our affairs.
The fucking problem is...America is not made up of The Greatest Generation anymore. We are full of faggots, soy bitches, effeminant males, feminist cunts, POC racists and communists. In the 50's we could have come out of this maybe. But with the current cucks and cunts we have at fighting age...we're most likely doomed. Some real men and their families will make it through. The rest will lay down to slaughter and climb into the boxcar as long as it has WiFi to update their social media.
49 guvners locked down free Americans because a US president elevated the seasonal sniffles to pandemic status.
This past year of tyranny has been one giant lesson in how to subvert the US Constitution .. and have most of the US beg for their own freedom to be revoked. And a whole LOT of elected assholes participated in this tyranny, whether for a couple of months or for the duration to the present.
Really your only option is just openly defying the diktats coming out of Washington at the state and local level. Keeping your head down. Practising OPSEC. Washington D.C is a long way away and they literally need thousands of soldiers and razor wire and barbed wire fences to protect them from the people at this point. There really isn't all that much value left in the US dollar to steal after 108 years of the federal reserve and when that is expended what power is the federal government going to have? They will get more aggressive with the IRS trying to ring money out of the population but the harder they squeeze the less revenue they are likely to collect.
I think you should focus on community level resistance and becoming more resilient locally and less reliant on the grid at this point. Why even bother to fight the feds in open combat - honestly if you keep your heads, make sure you have local networks, access to local produce and have the ability to grow some of your own food and have your own chickens you will have a decent chance at surviving what is coming. Food, water, heating, a tribe for protection. You will probably have to get used to bartering for what you need. Fuel will be scarce. Power cuts regular (see "load shedding" in South Africa) so you probably need to store or generate some of your own. Law & order will be borderline non existent in cities and it will be dicey in suburbs and rural areas.
How many people in America are reliant on the federal government for survival? How many people are employed wholly or in part by the feds? How many people (especially dipshit socialist millennial's) out there are on the AOC train thinking the government is going to dole out free stuff to them so they can have all the nice stuff the boomers have like a McMansion, a $70,000 truck, a boat and a cushy well paid job and a 20 year retirement? The feds are going to be eaten by their own and by each other as they scrap over the last few bits of wealth.
The smart warrior knows when to fight - patience really is the highest virtue. Believe me when the infrastructure starts to break down and people become more desperate you are going to have enough problems - you don't need to try and organise a civil war now. Not when your movement is infested with glowies.
Just wait until their salaries aren't being paid - can you imagine all the shit the feds have? From databases to firearms to electronic surveillance equipment, riot gear. Munitions. A lot of the glowies will probably sell it at firesale prices to keep their beltway lifestyles up as the system breaks down.
It's exactly what happened in Russia in the 1980's as the USSR collapsed and in the wake of its collapse.
The States that cannot abide by the Constitution have violated the pact/contract between the 50 States. The States in violation should be kicked out, or brought under military law, have their unconstitutional laws removed, have their politicians removed from power, and have fair elections performed.
The blue states, I'm sure, would say this is wrong, but it's exactly what they did to the South in the Civil War. The South wanted a peaceful divorce, the North said "Fuck you! Submit!", and the blue states see the Civil War as a good thing, omitting the terrible shit they did to the South from history books.
The time for this was Jan6. I've seen a LOT of talk over the years, but this one time, I thought it might actually happen. Nope! Just more talk, and then send everyone home. Now we're just sitting around waiting for them to take away the rest of our rights.
Firstly ever heard of spell check faggot? If that's your only argument delete your existence. Secondly, what happened on January 6th was a big lesson to a lot of people. I give those who went there with the honest intention to fight for their voting rights credit. They actually went and did it. The problem is they didn't go armed and they didn't trust other trumpers. Thirdly Trump had a chance to deputize everyone in that crowd. He stood in a spot in history that required tremendous courage and chose not to take the necessary steps to do what needed done. I don't know what I personally would have done but you can't tell someone ala Pence "you can either go down in history as a Patriot or a pussy." And then do the same thing yourself. For all the good that Trump did I feel that was his greatest failure. Right now Trump could amass an army overnight made up of millions of people who are ready to lay down their lives and do what needs done. People want a leader and for whatever reason he can't bring himself to do it. I honestly wish I could be in his shoes at that pivotal moment in history to understand why he didn't.
Hah, yes, the same guy that pardoned no one involved in the Jan 6th incident,
Which I disagreed with and felt like those who went should have been first on the list along with Snowden and Assange
who then goes to CPAC and cucks for the Republican party who gave him nothing but problems for 4 years
I'm not Trump but I think the endgame is he knows we can't win with a third-party only option. So the best thing is to primary the hell out of the career politicians and establish term limits. Too little too late but whatever.
And now has been doing nothing more than writing letters and grifting for dollars so he can become the Hillary Clinton of the Republican party?
I mean say what you want but no other candidate in modern history has the sway and reach to people that Trump currently has.
Anyone who would line up to die for Trump now should do just that. Please. For the sake of the genetic pool of America.
Most were willing to do this for Country not Trump. Trump just had the ability to get it done and mobilize but chose not to which is his biggest failure in my opinion. Refer to above comment.
But you also won’t be creating new gun owners. They just have to wait 10 years for the gun owning population to drop and eventually it’ll be easy to take them
What is commonly not known about the blue hole is that at the 80 foot bottom it basically opens up into an underwater cave, river system. Nobody knows how long it goes but divers bodies have shown up in lakes a long ways off after they drowned in the blue hole. The currents can suck you away and then your fucked. I came close to dying in the blue hole myself. I had to do an emergency accent from 60ft with NO AIR!
I wouldn't do the, "let them know..." part. If they are willing to enforce illegal government edicts, then you have just give them cause to use Red Flag laws to target you RIGHT NOW.
Don't warn them. Thugs will not need your warnings and do the right thing, but they will take steps to make it more costly to stop them from taking guns.
Too much pearl-clutching from people who still care about optics.
They're coming for the guns. Stock up on ammo now, while you can. Be prepared to use them
Trump needs to understand that these people are absolutely evil and will not stop after a mere 4 years. In the end all of his supporters will be prosecuted according to the radical left, globalist rule.
He does understand. Look how abruptly he switched up on us. He got bested, or outmaneuvered, like with Covid but obviously a lot worse. This mustve been better than whatever they threatened after the steal. Maybe some time for us to actually prepare and organize
I like it. 5 months ago I would have been on board. Now I'm not sure we had allies in government at any level that wasn't Donald J Trump, and I don't think he had the power of the presidency. If you want them arrested you're going to have to do it yourself.
No-knock raids already end in a disproportionate amount of shoot-outs, even when they are at least related to criminal activity. Wonder how many of these defunded police forces that are permanently shit on by the media and their communities are going to be willing to openly execute a no-knock raid explicitly knowing they are going to be guns and massive opposition to unconstitutional edicts.
1/6 wasn't a protest, it was a pep rally that was supposed to be in support of Senators and Pence exercising their constitutional powers in accepting state electors.
That has no relationship with 4 cops knocking down an armed man's door in the middle of the night, just asking for a slug to the chest. Cops are already getting in gunfights over red flag laws. This isn't about people protesting or cops protesting, it's the reality of an armed populace that takes the defense of their homes seriously.
Call it a protest if you want but it was nothing but a pep rally. No different than any of the political rallies Trump threw throughout the campaign. MAGA grannies aren't overthrowing the capital and if that's what you thought was going to happen then you fell for the obvious honeypot.
Should've started with yourself taking one... see how it's easy to talk. Gee, it's almost like EVERYONE is a badass when they talk about these things. Jan 6th was a Trump rally and peaceful protest. It was never organized as anything but. Then we had fbi, antifa, and larpers like some of y'all on here go perform an idiotic exercise in futility by "storming" the Capitol with flagpoles and pepper spray. It was an embarrassment. If it were to ever happen for real I promise you it wouldn't be organized on fucking social media. And YOU would probably still not be there.
Oh don't worry though, January 6th will be taken out of its cage and paraded around like a model for everyone to see regardless of that fact.
So what if MAGA truly didn't want to rebel and take over D.C. when it can be painted that "people within the movement" wanted to anyways. And if one person wanted to, that means Trump wanted them to.
They needed a pet monkey to parade out, and they got all the video for it to chop up and direct however they wanted. It doesn't matter that Trump was still speaking for a half an hour after people got in. It's that they got in. Can't have that.
So now if a rebellion starts, look how easy it is to spin it that Trump was backchanneling to people for this rebellion? Evidence? Don't need that. January 6th. Riots and such. Now cough over the guns, citizen.
1/6 was nothing but a pre-emptive staged interference operation. It should be seen as a lesson on how not to conduct a protest, nothing more. It was their opportunity and their timing, the time and opportunity for patriots is yet to come. If it wasn't, the fences in DC would not be necessary.
Demoralization is one of their key strategies to suppress dissent, and calls for knee jerk radicalism is on the flip side for the ones for whom that doesn't work.
Yeah but I'm sure the left will conveniently forget the Breonna Taylor situation when they see the no-knock raids are being used against conservatives.
I've complained about police militarization for over a decade, but none of my leftist acquaintances never cared unless there was a presumed racial component. They'll cheer police brutality against conservatives without question.
absolutely 100% the proof is just showing how they reacted to the Jan 6th situation. They literally went full gestapo and the arm chair detectives trying to identify people.
There is no reason to be scared of conservatives. They are the most pathetic show-offs there are. Blacks kill your people and you do nothing. They steal your elections and you do nothing. At least the left knows how to protest.
It allows the FBI one month to process a form that expires in one month, it gives the FBI the ability to suspend gun purchases indefinitely for whoever they want for no stated reason.
It is yet another unenforceable law, that relinquish the freedoms of law abiding citizens. All the while doing nothing to stop the criminals or enforce the laws already on the books.
There's a whole lot of pushback at every level against these illegal edicts. Let's see how that pushback shakes out before we do exactly what they want us to do.
What I'm saying is that they are pushing us on every front, hoping a few people will get fed up and actually commit some violent insurrection. That'll give them the political cover to enact their desired police state.
I'd prefer to avoid that outcome and think there's a time and place for all things.
Suggesting strategic thinking is not necessarily defensive.
Strategic thinking shouldnt ignore timelines, or excuse inaction for patience. One questions what strategy is being employed when they continuously fail. And the definition of insanity is trying the same failed action over and over in ad finitum
I'm suggesting that rushing headlong into a trap isn't the wisest course of action.
There's a lot of people like me who share your anger and desire to un-f*ck this situation. Those who've stepped into leading this grass roots movement have dented this and chosen a course of action.
There will be some clear messaging on our course of action very soon. Can you hold off until then?
Couldn't you just as easily argue that if a police state is enacted, that more people will go against it? The way I see it, what you are suggesting is waiting. There will be no right time. There will be no final straw. It's starts when it starts, but if no one starts it that's never.
I'm just hoping as few of us as possible join them. To me, that means giving the peaceful solutions every chance we can before we channel that beautiful anger you express so well.
Not sure, I just know some have been conducted. I could look some up if you like, but the official story is probably "danger to others/and or self" but in reality just a regular citizen they wanted to make an example of.
Enforcement will be extremely easy. They won't be mass door to door confiscation of anything. What they will do is "cancel" you. No government job if you don't comply. No boarding any aircraft if you don't comply. No bank accounts as they create a cashless society via their "great reset". There will be "rewards" offered that your cucked nosey neighbor will turn you in for leading to a knock on your door at 3am as the FBI and local news cameras show up at your house. You will be made an example of. By the time they are done people will be begging to turn them in simply so their kids don't go hungry.
Jews! Literally, Zionist Biden, and the majority of his cabinet, aka, the shadow government is all Jews, the VPs husband is a jew, and Biden's Children married Jews. BLM founded and funded by Jews, Antifa is described by Jews as the Jewish militia. But please tell me again how it's not Jews. I'll literally begging for someone to explain it to me. Everywhere jews all the time … but it's not the Jews? OK!
But I guess it doesn't matter now. The USA is ruled by a literally zionist occupation government.
It really doesn't matter what they are … they are in control of our government and every single lever of control and power and the supposed "good jews" that are not "Baalists/Illuminists" say nothing and play along just as well. Is there a single Jew that is at all calling out the fact that a population that is far less than the touted 2% of our population has to much power and control and influence, with a Zionist Biden and all the powerful cabinet positions are held by jews? And if they aren't Jews, they're literally Jew worshipers and servants. It's simply not healthy no matter how any rational person looks at it. It would be the same if the dynamics were an other group. Muslims, Hindus, Aliens even. "Whites", aka, Europeans are literally being ethnically cleansed from the USA and totally disowned and disempowered because even if they are "white" in the government, they are essentially all cucks.
That may be possible and I am more than willing to accept that orthodox jews were subverted and am more than willing to accept them as allies in the fight against what is really a psychopath demigod class of globalists only led by the "Jews". If the dumb evangelicals weren't so utterly subjugated and brainrotted by the Jews and were instead leading all this stuff, I would be opposed to them just as vehemently. But that's just it, they are really just dumb goys that are being used to enable and facilitate the Jewish dominance and takeover of the whole world. At no time in human history has anyone ever come closer than the Jews at total global conquest and domination as they are looking poised to do now. That's not something against them … it's something against their ways and objectives and because I like humanity and actual diversity of differences and uniqueness. They HATE it.
How's that working out in the middle east over the last 20 years? The few they'll catch off guard. Or they won't. Either way we outnumber them 1000s to 1. Be the Lion.
Yes, the successful guerillas in other countries are a strong argument. My only counter to that would be, look at the resources and political power in those countries. In all cases, the state forces that are held at bay are limited in resources and power. Any foreign military force is constrained by the manpower and resources they bring with them. In internal conflicts, the country is usually poor and not one of the top political seats of power in the world. Both of these factors are completely different in the US. The state forces here are extremely well funded, extremely high-tech, and there is overwhelming political backing behind them. If FARC or the Taliban had been created in the US, they would have been WACO'd real fast.
The feds and Leos aren't soldiers. Once the door kicking starts getting those lazy donut eating bastards shot they won't want to continue. And even if they did the sheer difference in numbers between Us and law enforcement is insane. The same goes for the military even with the military weapons and training all those dudes ain't gonna be about bringing war to the American people. When this split starts at the military level we have us a genuine civil war. Yes, innocent people will die and they will tale Lots of guns and ammo but unless everyone is as big of coward and defeatist as you are it won't be like you and all the other doomers think. It'll be Much worse.
Everyone's situation is different. I live in an apartment with paper thin walls, surrounded by either liberal or non-gun owning neighbors. And I have a 9 month old. There is no way for me to fortify my apartment or survive a raid by a well equipped and organized force for any significant length of time. I'm clearly talking about people in a situation similar to mine. We will be picked off in our apartments at very little risk to the attackers.
Maybe you live in a veritable bunker filled with traps and mines, but I guarantee any government force wouldn't enter your little fortress unawares.
We're not organized, and besides, where do you see fights taking place that work out for us? You're limited to ambush tactics, and if you think we're at that point already, then all I can say is, "you first".
First of all. They won't knock. Second point. You are now a domestic terrorist with your dead face plastered across all of the fake stream media as an example to everyone else. Outnumbering them doesn't mean shit. You yourself are alone with your family. You where just killed live on TV as you opened fire on a "brave police officer". This is EXACTLY what the deep state wants. This is not us versus them. It's individuals trying to live their own life with their family versus them. They GREATLY outnumber each of us. They system is VASTLY more powerful than us as individuals. This is how the modern civil war will be fought. We don't stand a chance.
Maybe,but who will decide the price they will pay ? They think they will take our loved ones. We wait for them.We wait for them and will make sure that if they will try not only our orphans and widdows will cry. It is last warning. Not only in USA but worldwide for cabal members and servants of those monsters. Don't tread on us.
Statist fascist terrorists will not kill us like sheeps. We are not terrorists.We are civilians.None of us conservatives is terrorist. We want to live in peace. But if this will be impossible we will die standing,and will try to fight even if with our teeth and bare fists. But guns are more effective,so none American shall give them his/her gun without a fight.
Disarming civilians in USA is turning point without return for anyone,not only in America,because it means American freedom is lost. Guns are fangs of freedom.
If you care about what strangers think about you - after you're dead - more than you fear living life as a slave you should sell your guns to someone who isn't a coward.
No. I care about what people think of YOU after you are dead. I don't what dead Patriots. I don't want the Deep State to win. I don't want them to take their narrative and brain wash the world with it. And if you think I'm a coward you are deadly wrong. I'm in this to fight because I love my country. But the LAST thing we need is a bunch of dip shits shooting cops.
If they will come for guns there will be no other options,because if Deep State will take guns - then will win and they will be able to slaughter patriots like sheeps anyway.
"Don't fight them, just let them do whatever they want. Otherwise they'll win!"
If it comes to blood there will be blood on both sides. I don't want or seek it but I accept the reality of the matter. I'd love to avoid it and I'm welcome to any suggestions, but if confiscation happens a bunch of dipshits shooting cops is exactly what we need.
Is that why we're still in the middle east kicking in doors? Cause it's just that easy? Local Leo's aren't trying to be fucking hero's and their aren't that many feds. I guess if they bring to bear the full weight of our military against its citizens.
And if that's what they want. That's what they'll get. You can help your wife and kids into cattle car like a good boy. I'll take my chances. I seriously doubt I'm the only one with this mindset. Stay afraid sheep.
You're right, and I've posted this same thing before. I hope we haven't been giving them ideas, but this is exactly what they'll do. The "from my cold dead hands" folks will be boxing up their weapons and taking them to the local sheriff voluntarily. The pain will be too great otherwise. We've already let them wrap the ropes around us, all they need to do is start pulling them tight and most people will comply.
They declared war on 11/4 when they stole the election. They have been living on borrowed time ever since, and they know it (hence all the fortifications in DC)
You and me both, friend.
I have a small group of like minded individuals in my area to band up with if SHTF or word gets around there is a high value target in our midst.
If you're going to complain and whine and blame your on inaction on others, if you plan on failing, go join the 41%ers and spare us dealing with your pathetic cowering and retardation. You are not the average, you are the bottom of the barrel.
they never did anything, the feds did a strategic retreat to prevent the shot heard round the world. They are still in power and working behind the scenes to make sure the next stand off ends with dead pedophi..I mean Americans.
USA is becoming a shit hole.
And because of that, it's high time we think of the safety and best interests of the illegals and stop them from coming here as here is going to be worse than there.
“I'll ignore their unconstitutional gun control the same way I ignored their unconstitutional mask mandates and the same way they ignored the unconstitutional election results.”
It's really not, it's just more whinging from someone who probably lives in a Blue city in a Blue state, mad that Trump voters he/she knows wears their mask in public and to events.
News flash: red areas in EVERY state and red states, in general, don't give a shit about mask laws. Save your propaganda and whining about what you saw on DA TEEVEE and TWITTER for someone who cares
The ‘10 days’ is a trick they tried before that traps buyers into a Byzantine endless loop:
“Under the proposed legislation, the 3-day safety valve would be eliminated and replaced with a procedure that provides gun buyers with no protection. If an FFL initiates a check and does not receive a response from NICS after 10 business days, the prospective purchaser may petition the FBI to permit the transfer to proceed. The FFL may not proceed with the transaction until an additional 10 business days have elapsed from the date of the petition.
Existing federal law limits the validity of a NICS background check to 30 calendar days from the date it is initiated. Because H.R. 1112 uses business days and the NICS validity provision is in calendar days, in practice, H.R. 1112 would have no default proceed available.
For example, if H.R. 1112 were to become law, gun buyers who are delayed on the busiest gun buying day of the year, Black Friday, would not be able to clear their delay under H.R. 1112’s provisions before their NICS check expired. Black Friday 2019 falls on November 29th, so the first day that the prospective purchaser could file a petition would be December 14th.
The additional 10-business day wait after the petition would make December 31st the first day that the FFL could transfer the firearm, but that would be prohibited because the NICS check expired on December 29th. The purchaser would have to begin the process again with another NICS check, with the likely result being another delay and the process beginning all over again.”
Now that we know the establishment DS chooses who wins elections it's easier to understand why rinos switch sides on major issues. It's the carrot and the big stick.
Have you seen the cucks infesting the GOP? I’m surprised that there weren’t more, but they only needed enough to pass it so the rest can still pretend to represent their constituents.
This is the point where if you don't already have guns, you're basically screwed. You should have at least a handgun, shotgun, and rifle.
Keep buying ammo until the elites shut that industry down.
The time window is rapidly closing to buy guns that aren't traced to a central registry. This is one of my top priorities right now (acquisition of firearms and bulk ammo). Firstly, you can resell them at a premium to people who are trying to avoid new unconstitutional bans on gun and ammo sales. Secondly, you'll have plenty for you, your friends, and family to use should the need arise.
Whatever. I live in a faggot blue state and I don't abide by 99% of the gun laws here. Why should I be stripped of my rights just because I moved to state run by morons? The time for non-compliance is NOW.
It also does not matter because they don't need any Republicans. The cheated enough to get a bare majority in both houses (Senate with Kommie). The POTATUS will sign anything put before him.
Why? Since when has 'Republican' been a badge of honor? I've been voting for these feckless losers since I was 18, so trust me, it's a badge of shame that most of them deserve carved on their nameless gravestones.
Republicans are supposed to be the party of freedom and of the republican form of government. If they don't meet those two criteria, I consider them rinos instead.
Thank you! Reactionaries oppose social and political reform. Everything's so upside down and ass backwards now that we desperately need reactionaries to create an American Renaissance.
Oh, there will be multiple methods. The vaccines will likely shorten average life expectancy by a huge margin. The future slave class of humans will get roughly half of the current amount of years on this Earth, while elites live longer and longer, indoctrinating generations from birth (possibly transferring their consciousness to new vessels, so they can rule our bloodlines forever).
Yes, if we do nothing, the future will be THAT horrific.
I'm not sure how they're going to be able to enforce background checks on ALL sales
Do you really think the fella selling them out of the back of his van is going to run a background check on his buyers? Hell no, cause he wont' make money cause all the buyers will fail a background check.
Right now, no. You buy a gun from a retail store, they record serial in 4473 which stays in custody of the retailer until the retailer goes out of business, at which point they turn over their 4473's to ATF. But this just indicates who was the first retail sale of the gun. You could sell, trade, lose, destroy, etc the firearm and no one would know.
If LEO recovers a gun from a crime, they can look up the serial number to see what distributor had it and which retailer sold it. They can get the 4473 and see who it was sold to, and then go to that person and investigate what happened to the gun. But unless there is a provable connection between you and the criminal suspect, you can say "I sold it to some guy" and that's all there is.
The primary purpose of a gun registry is to be able to confiscate all guns in the future. The way that works is the government says turn in this gun which we know you own. You can't claim you no longer have the gun, because if you do, you are guilty of not having the gun which is registered to you in your possession, in which case you go to jail anyway.
This bill is the first step to having a full gun registry.
Gun stores keep form 4473 for years and give them to the FBI upon request so there pretty much is already a registry. I also don't believe NICS deletes their records like they claim so that is another registry.
As far as I know the feds can't look up your name and see which guns you own. The firearms dealer maintains a record of the transaction for some period of time, after which it's destroyed. Also the NICS background check system is not tied to your physical address.
"Criminals don't obey laws, so we need more laws" - every gun control law ever.
This is just to discourage responsible people from arming themselves, and to give them better records for when the confiscation comes. I encourage everyone to give guns to unarmed friends, off the record. A well and anonymously armed populace is our best bet.
They know full we'll it isn't, but an armed populace is the only thing stopping then from full on communism. They're going to follow what NYC to install full gun control.
No, they don't believe that. They also don't really believe that a guy selling guns out of his van is going to run background checks on his buyers cause they'll all fail. They know black market dealers won't run background checks, no way they can trace those guns anyways as the serial numbers are always scratched off.
Gun control laws aren't about punishing the criminals, it's about punishing the law abiding citizens.
Don't worry. Everyone on the right will be very upset. They will bitch and moan while waiting in line for their box car and will make sure they talk to someone in charge when they get to the camp.
This. My fiance asks me why i need another gun when i already have more than i can carry myself. This is the way, i hope i come across a friendly pede that will help cover a sector of fire.
You should go out and find them now so you dont have to hope to run into them when shit hits the fan. The most important thing any of us can do right now is EVERYONE should be finding local pedes.
Still has to pass the senate, but if this passes, this is the line. We all know what type of authoritarian nightmare comes next and what'll happen to 80 million people. It's not even a question of if, but when, and the accelerationists aren't fucking around so expect as soon as possible not 20 years from now. This'll be phase one of a multi-phase process through legislation and whatever else to make people get rid of their guns or to lock them up. Then that's that. Game over. I think everyone here knows that already. If this passes people might want to start blocking off their free time to dedicate to this problem.
Essentially all sales have to pass a federal background check which generally takes a fair amount of time. However this has only passed the house and must pass the senate before being put into Law.
I don't know the future and since I know that you yourself do not possess any faculties I do not possess I can be sure that you do not know the future either.
Don’t get me wrong, I hope I’m wrong. But putting faith in GOP senators to do the right thing and support the constitution doesn’t have the best track history
Police, sheriffs, law enforcement, are you willing to give up your lives for Biden and Democrats, people that hate and want to defund you, people that celebrate and encourage BLM and AntiFA attacks against you? No, than entirely ignore any gun grabbing orders from a false administration.
"...establish background check requirements for gun sales between private parties, prohibiting transfers unless a licensed gun dealer, manufacturer or importer first takes possession of the firearm to conduct a background check. The legislation would not apply to certain transfers, such as a gift between spouses."
Why only license gun dealer, manufacturer or importer? Why not police or other law enforcement?
Hell, most private gun sales around here, take place in front of the police station, with a police officer there. I mean, the ones where neither is a felon, since we don't have many people, the police pretty much know who is and isn't a felon.
Also, it says as a gift between spouses, what about siblings or between a mother/father and son/daughter?
I kind of already thought that was a thing.
I thought when you bought one, it "registered" it in the system or something.
I thought that's why when you bought a gun from an individual, you had to re-register it at a police station or something, that way, if you report it stolen or lost, and they find it, they can check the serial number to see if it's the one that matches your record.
No. Gun stores are required to keep records but in theory, they are not accessible by government agencies (though we know theory and practice often don't agree).
If you fill out a 4473, they'll know about it. The difference will be is you won't have plausible deniability for not having it by saying "I sold it at a gun show for cash to a stranger" if you filled out a 4473 for that gun after the UBC law goes into effect.
Right but the 4473 does not register your gun into a central database (which is ultimately what they want). Gun dealers keep records of sales, but good luck figuring out where I got mine from
Yet. I'm sure they're gonna start putting copies of every 4473 into a database if they haven't already started doing so. Part of the reason (I think) that they haven't been doing so on a large scale is because up until now there have been so many ways to legally acquire a firearm without filling out a 4473 that any central database would have more holes in it than Swiss cheese. I think they're focusing first on making sure there's no way to legally acquire a firearm without filling out a 4473 ( which would explain them prioritizing UBCs and "Ghost guns" over stuff like an AWB).
Once they've made it illegal to buy, make, or receive a gun without filling out a 4473, I think then they will start entering 4473s into a centralized database in earnest. I'd also expect them to make it mandatory to report any "lost" or stolen firearms within xx hours of losing them, in order to patch that "hole" in the 4473 registry. Obviously this wouldn't effectively register all the 500 million firearms in circulation now, but many of them would become registered inadvertently by "law abiding gun owners" who would insist on selling their guns "legally."
Do not give up. Now call you senators, even if they are Dem and put pressure on them. if you are not sure how to do this effectively, check out : https://nationalgunrights.org/
The Republican party is no good, its a moldy edible toxic to you if you still eat what they give. It's beyond saving. This talk of 2024, by the time you get there, you'll be de-balled and have no voice with your vote. So what now...thats the hard part.
Oh I know that. its Patriots vs Communist now. There is no two party system. Its been a culture war supersede by a power vacuum. The problem is we have no formal hierarchy, no organization.
These laws are designed by the elites to strip the means of the people to check and balance the government in order to stop them from ever getting too uppity.
Yes. HR8 is the UBC registry. It will effectively register every gun bought on a 4473 (new or used) after it goes into effect. Guns on a 4473 filled out before it goes into effect will still have plausible deniability, since you could have legally sold them privately.
HR1446 has to do with NICS delays, and changes the burden of proof from the government to the buyer.
Unless you live in a state that forces you to register your firearms, theoretically nothing is tied to your name. The dealer maintains records of the serial numbers of firearms sold to purchasers, but it doesn't end up in a central database. So, nobody's gonna come looking for something they don't know is there.
Agreed. Remember five months ago, how we all thought that the Supreme Court would finally be on the side of the constitution? It wasn't for the election. It won't be for the second amendment. We need to plan for the worst at this point.
Here it is.
WHAT WILL YOU DO NOW?
They took our freedoms.
They took our votes.
Now they come for our guns and our lives?
WHAT WILL YOU DO?
We are on the last box. Use it or lose it
This post is misleading. Find out why safety officials consider genocide safe for most people.
(aa) (1) (A)It shall be unlawful for any person who is not a licensed importer, licensed manufacturer, or licensed dealer to transfer a firearm to any other person who is not so licensed, unless a licensed importer, licensed manufacturer, or licensed dealer has first taken possession of the firearm for the purpose of complying with subsection (t). (B)Upon taking possession of a firearm under subparagraph (A), a licensee shall comply with all requirements of this chapter as if the licensee were transferring the firearm from the inventory of the licensee to the unlicensed transferee. (C)If a transfer of a firearm described in subparagraph (A) will not be completed for any reason after a licensee takes possession of the firearm (including because the transfer of the firearm to, or receipt of the firearm by, the transferee would violate this chapter), the return of the firearm to the transferor by the licensee shall not constitute the transfer of a firearm for purposes of this chapter. (2)Paragraph (1) shall not apply to— (A)a law enforcement agency or any law enforcement officer, armed private security professional, or member of the armed forces, to the extent the officer, professional, or member is acting within the course and scope of employment and official duties; (B)a transfer that is a loan or bona fide gift between spouses, between domestic partners, between parents and their children, including step-parents and their step-children, between siblings, between aunts or uncles and their nieces or nephews, or between grandparents and their grandchildren, if the transferor has no reason to believe that the transferee will use or intends to use the firearm in a crime or is prohibited from possessing firearms under State or Federal law; (C)a transfer to an executor, administrator, trustee, or personal representative of an estate or a trust that occurs by operation of law upon the death of another person; (D)a temporary transfer that is necessary to prevent imminent death or great bodily harm, including harm to self, family, household members, or others, if the possession by the transferee lasts only as long as immediately necessary to prevent the imminent death or great bodily harm, including the harm of domestic violence, dating partner violence, sexual assault, stalking, and domestic abuse; (E)a transfer that is approved by the Attorney General under section 5812 of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986; or (F)a temporary transfer if the transferor has no reason to believe that the transferee will use or intends to use the firearm in a crime or is prohibited from possessing firearms under State or Federal law, and the transfer takes place and the transferee’s possession of the firearm is exclusively— (i)at a shooting range or in a shooting gallery or other area designated for the purpose of target shooting; (ii)while reasonably necessary for the purposes of hunting, trapping, or fishing, if the transferor— (I)has no reason to believe that the transferee intends to use the firearm in a place where it is illegal; and (II)has reason to believe that the transferee will comply with all licensing and permit requirements for such hunting, trapping, or fishing; or (iii)while in the presence of the transferor. (3)It shall be unlawful for a licensed importer, licensed manufacturer, or licensed dealer to transfer possession of, or title to, a firearm to another person who is not so licensed unless the importer, manufacturer, or dealer has provided such other person with a notice of the prohibition under paragraph (1), and such other person has certified that such other person has been provided with this notice on a form prescribed by the Attorney General.
(c)Rules of interpretation Nothing in this Act, or any amendment made by this Act, shall be construed to—
(1)authorize the establishment, directly or indirectly, of a national firearms registry; or (2)interfere with the authority of a State, under section 927 of title 18, United States Code, to enact a law on the same subject matter as this Act
That’s a hell of a lot longer than the 2nd amendment.
2nd what?
2nd white supremacist clause
Part of the Bill of Rights, rights granted to us by you know, the Thing!
Thanks! Is that the whole thing?
There might be a lot of “domestic partners” I exchange gifts with. My gift, coincidentally, is always cash. Don’t know what they’ll give me.
Booty. I bet its booty.
"...when a long train...", etc...
Please consult your government-approved media guidebook for a full quote.
Shhh, we don't say that anymore.
Right-o, sorry, edited...
"..that men are disposed to suffer, while such evils are sufferable..."
Passions and expectations are high on our side. Inaction feels disappointing, nothing is fair or just, but 2020 was only a battle in an ongoing civilizational war. It should serve as a wake-up call to change the way you think about your cultural opposites and your political opponents. Identify those that are enemies and plan accordingly for the future. So far, the future is stupid. I don't see that trend changing soon.
I used to think that was the wrong course, now I see its the only one.
The Patriot Streetfighter intro monologue
Really doesn't matter what the law says when that's who we're fighting anyway
TL:DR?
You need to read it.
We're here because every elected official is so compromised they don't care about reading anything.
You think they care?
"Does this grant the government and it's agents (i.e. me) more power?"
"Yes sir."
"We'll vote for it."
Background checks for everyone, all private sales go through a dealer. It's a page, go read it.
If we need to protect our lives from scumbags or from gummint, breaking this law won't even enter our minds.
Take it to a jury of your peers. Let them decide if your family's life was worth breaking this bullshit law in order to protect yourselves.
iow: Live Free or Die
I hate our gummint.
Haha.
Mostly peaceful genocide!
Mostly peaceful genocide!
Mostly peaceful genocide!
Warning: It may hurt and be very bloody. Individual cases may vary.
**MOSTLY...mostly... ** lmao
**MOSTLY...mostly... ** lmao
Mostly peaceful genocide!
This is exactly what lead to Lexington and Concord.
To the Military Intelligence officer reading this right now, just know that your failure will be documented in the pages of history. You are the reason The West was lost.
This is why they left the fence up.
true
It won't stop a bomb or rodsofgod! GO SPACE FORCE!!!!
Military is run by fags now. They won't do shit but take a knee and lick boots.
I don't believe you.
What have they done to stop any of this?
Well see my other posts. I see soldiers everyday. Talk to them off and on. Most seem to not care anymore. There will still be small groups/individuals that are patriots but the brass has been infiltrated and this runs out the good guys. Why is there a 60 day pause? Why have standards have been lowered? Guess you don't remember the "vetting" of NG troops around DC.
Oh there’s much worse “common sense” legislation coming down the pipeline. That’s really what the fence is for
Military Intelligence? They are the PART of whole US Constitution shredding process. LOL
They have stood by idle while the communists have taken over the country. They are complicit in this coup, until they decide to do something to stop it.
If you can't follow that logic, then you should refrain from further debate.
I'm the one here calling them out, you simpleton. Go work on your reading comprehension.
Tell me about it. I had a discussion with a soldier several days back that was actually defending the government saying none of these dystopian policies will get passed and everything will return to normal and balance out. Brainwashing DOES exist. Probably a member of the 4th Psyop Group
While wearing his mask he kept fiddling with. The military is a joke. Only useful for bombing other countries or taking on third world nations.
Military Intelligence = Men in uniform in dresses
Ain't lost yet....
Took the words right out of my mouth!
to piggyback -
Your cowardice will be etched in history forever.
Repent.
Who the fuck are you kidding?! We have been sitting around for months in the face of obvious tyranny as the election was stolen WITH THE HELP OF THE COURTS.
Now all we do is sit around and MEME as an illegitimate government passes obviously UNCONSTITUTIONAL shit like this and HR-1.
The problem with our side is that, memes and patriotic platitudes are ALL WE HAVE. We have no resolve to do anything more than bitch about while the enemies of liberty continue their assault on everything we once held dear.
So go ahead and downvote the shit out of this comment! Like everything else we do here, it MEANS NOTHING!
We all sit around because we still have too much to lose. We own homes. We have families. Many still have jobs. People aren't willing to stand up because no one else stands up with them yet. Won't be like that forever though. Waiting for that straw to break.
Need leadership. Every fight in history required leadership. Right now there is a gigantic leadership vacuum on our side.
I absolutely agree. And as much as I love President Trump, walking away was fatal mistake.
You'll still be waiting for that leadership even as you're being loaded into the box car.
And if there's leadership before then you'll insist that you'll wait for something else. Sunny skies? Planetary alignment? The end of salmon spawning season?
Stop waiting. Get off your ass!
You you you you
Replace with "I I I I "
By the time it does, it will likely be too late. What we needed was for Trump to lead us to the Capitol to do what's required. But instead, he walked away, even knowing that he was effectively handing the country over to an illegitimate government and that we would be in the grip of the very tyranny that our Founding Father's tried to prepare us for.
Yep, that was the biggest "WTF" moment in my life.
What the fuck just happened???? January 6th will live in infamy.
Do nothing and you will still lose all those things. It’s now or never
Unfortunately, while our Founding Father's understood this, people today are of much weaker stock.
And 99% of the Founding Father's were rich guys. Very rich, wealth disparity was enormous back then, many of the FF's lived like royalty. They were a relatively small group and the crown knew who each of them were specifically, so they were sacrificing literally everything. None of us could even come close to sacrificing as much as they did, not counting the very few, the 0.2% that would make the ultimate sacrifice. Imo we are without excuse, except we are without leadership and organization. Both of which are poor excuses for the evil we are starring down.
The FF were aligned with France. France and the UK were enemies.
The FF had a very powerful backstop.
I'm absolutely certain that Americans bought record numbers of firearms just so they can hand them all over once big daddy government comes for em.
These wimps might as well have bought teddy bears and safety blankets.
Our forefathers were patient, too. They levied taxes, tariffs, and patrolled the streets with free standing armies. The parallels with today's events are scarily close. When the lobster-backs came for the guns, that broke the camels back.
Trump will hopefully return. And I hope he is being strategic already about it. Going to get rid of the RINO governors well ahead of time and then get states to fix their crappy mail-in voting laws and dominion usage.
He's already started on Georgia. Need to fix Georgia along with about 3 other states and he will win again in a landslide.
Help Trump fix 3 or 4 states. That is the most important thing. Not the royal family, not transgender issues, not superstraight. This gun shit obviously needs to be pushed back on though.
Honestly the MAGA movement has left Trump behind at this point. He was far too soft and "diplomatic" in all the instances that mattered, and now we have this. Trump's inaction and empty promises share a LARGE portion of the blame for the current state of our affairs.
10000000000000000000000%
He had against him:
In his corner were a bunch of private citizens like us. And next to nothing else. Power (and Chinese blackmail) evidently corrupts 99% of people.
How long you gonna wait for that straw to break? You'll still be waiting for something even as they're loading you into the boxcar.
We can't wait any longer. We're already too late. This shit should have been sorted out months ago.
If we do nothing we'll lose everything anyway.
The fucking problem is...America is not made up of The Greatest Generation anymore. We are full of faggots, soy bitches, effeminant males, feminist cunts, POC racists and communists. In the 50's we could have come out of this maybe. But with the current cucks and cunts we have at fighting age...we're most likely doomed. Some real men and their families will make it through. The rest will lay down to slaughter and climb into the boxcar as long as it has WiFi to update their social media.
I wish I could disagree with you.
If that is true, it only takes a small group of tough men to wipe out all those weak opponents.
It started loooong before the election.
49 guvners locked down free Americans because a US president elevated the seasonal sniffles to pandemic status.
This past year of tyranny has been one giant lesson in how to subvert the US Constitution .. and have most of the US beg for their own freedom to be revoked. And a whole LOT of elected assholes participated in this tyranny, whether for a couple of months or for the duration to the present.
Really your only option is just openly defying the diktats coming out of Washington at the state and local level. Keeping your head down. Practising OPSEC. Washington D.C is a long way away and they literally need thousands of soldiers and razor wire and barbed wire fences to protect them from the people at this point. There really isn't all that much value left in the US dollar to steal after 108 years of the federal reserve and when that is expended what power is the federal government going to have? They will get more aggressive with the IRS trying to ring money out of the population but the harder they squeeze the less revenue they are likely to collect.
I think you should focus on community level resistance and becoming more resilient locally and less reliant on the grid at this point. Why even bother to fight the feds in open combat - honestly if you keep your heads, make sure you have local networks, access to local produce and have the ability to grow some of your own food and have your own chickens you will have a decent chance at surviving what is coming. Food, water, heating, a tribe for protection. You will probably have to get used to bartering for what you need. Fuel will be scarce. Power cuts regular (see "load shedding" in South Africa) so you probably need to store or generate some of your own. Law & order will be borderline non existent in cities and it will be dicey in suburbs and rural areas.
How many people in America are reliant on the federal government for survival? How many people are employed wholly or in part by the feds? How many people (especially dipshit socialist millennial's) out there are on the AOC train thinking the government is going to dole out free stuff to them so they can have all the nice stuff the boomers have like a McMansion, a $70,000 truck, a boat and a cushy well paid job and a 20 year retirement? The feds are going to be eaten by their own and by each other as they scrap over the last few bits of wealth.
The smart warrior knows when to fight - patience really is the highest virtue. Believe me when the infrastructure starts to break down and people become more desperate you are going to have enough problems - you don't need to try and organise a civil war now. Not when your movement is infested with glowies.
Just wait until their salaries aren't being paid - can you imagine all the shit the feds have? From databases to firearms to electronic surveillance equipment, riot gear. Munitions. A lot of the glowies will probably sell it at firesale prices to keep their beltway lifestyles up as the system breaks down.
It's exactly what happened in Russia in the 1980's as the USSR collapsed and in the wake of its collapse.
My man!
I meme here, then I do work in the real world.
Gotta have a little fun
True story. Haven't seen an FBI agent yet, if they're smart they'll come wearing suits.
I've been saying this for months, but nobody here has the courage to act. We post gun pictures on Sunday, but we stay at our keyboards like bitches.
Complain and write strongly written letters
Just a few months ago I couldn't wait for 2A issues to finally make it to SCOTUS. After recent rulings I am not so sure anymore.
ah, letter box... the one between jury box and ammo box
bEcOmE a CoMmItEe MaN!
iD yOu SeCeDe ChYyYyYnA WiLl iNvAdE
They wont leave us alone. There is no peaceful option.
This.
We did everything to avoid this, what happens next is on their heads.
those 2 tend to go together. There has to be a redline. Are you planning to charge DC or something?
Your average libtard is not behind the Bolshevic insurgency.
And when do their bosses get cleansed?
Maybe we should start thinking of this as them seceeding from us , we are the ones who have no problem with the original constitution..
I agree.
We just want to restore the Constitution.
The States that cannot abide by the Constitution have violated the pact/contract between the 50 States. The States in violation should be kicked out, or brought under military law, have their unconstitutional laws removed, have their politicians removed from power, and have fair elections performed.
The blue states, I'm sure, would say this is wrong, but it's exactly what they did to the South in the Civil War. The South wanted a peaceful divorce, the North said "Fuck you! Submit!", and the blue states see the Civil War as a good thing, omitting the terrible shit they did to the South from history books.
We didn't cross any lines, they moved them past us.
Schedule a day nationally where we all March to the Capitol and tell the guardsmen to step aside and fufill their oaths.
April 1st - National Fine I'll Do It Myself Day
It would be hilarious if april first became the new independence day.
That last rally in DC was certainly a "fools" day in the end
The time for this was Jan6. I've seen a LOT of talk over the years, but this one time, I thought it might actually happen. Nope! Just more talk, and then send everyone home. Now we're just sitting around waiting for them to take away the rest of our rights.
I think this is one of Trump's greatest failures honestly.
Passing any reasonable pro gun legislation is definitely a failure of his.
What did you think would happen? Take over one building and then what? People can ruin the country over zoom. They dont care where you are.
Better - schedule a week for a complete general strike. We have the power, if we will use it.
No one's gonna do that man. Let's be real. Until people have absolutely nothing to lose they won't do anything.
Lol and then it's too late. Be prepared folks.
Damned if you do damned if you don't.
Better for them if Q isn't bullshit,and storm in this week, or they will have to desert or be traitors.
Firstly ever heard of spell check faggot? If that's your only argument delete your existence. Secondly, what happened on January 6th was a big lesson to a lot of people. I give those who went there with the honest intention to fight for their voting rights credit. They actually went and did it. The problem is they didn't go armed and they didn't trust other trumpers. Thirdly Trump had a chance to deputize everyone in that crowd. He stood in a spot in history that required tremendous courage and chose not to take the necessary steps to do what needed done. I don't know what I personally would have done but you can't tell someone ala Pence "you can either go down in history as a Patriot or a pussy." And then do the same thing yourself. For all the good that Trump did I feel that was his greatest failure. Right now Trump could amass an army overnight made up of millions of people who are ready to lay down their lives and do what needs done. People want a leader and for whatever reason he can't bring himself to do it. I honestly wish I could be in his shoes at that pivotal moment in history to understand why he didn't.
But but but he pardoned anyone kim kardashian asked him to as long as she showed up in a skirt
Hah, yes, the same guy that pardoned no one involved in the Jan 6th incident,
Which I disagreed with and felt like those who went should have been first on the list along with Snowden and Assange
who then goes to CPAC and cucks for the Republican party who gave him nothing but problems for 4 years
I'm not Trump but I think the endgame is he knows we can't win with a third-party only option. So the best thing is to primary the hell out of the career politicians and establish term limits. Too little too late but whatever.
And now has been doing nothing more than writing letters and grifting for dollars so he can become the Hillary Clinton of the Republican party?
I mean say what you want but no other candidate in modern history has the sway and reach to people that Trump currently has.
Anyone who would line up to die for Trump now should do just that. Please. For the sake of the genetic pool of America.
Most were willing to do this for Country not Trump. Trump just had the ability to get it done and mobilize but chose not to which is his biggest failure in my opinion. Refer to above comment.
Have lots of boating accidents here in New Mexico
If you bury them they will remained buried because when you need it most it'll be out of reach.
Ideally you have enough that you can bury some and still have some.
But you also won’t be creating new gun owners. They just have to wait 10 years for the gun owning population to drop and eventually it’ll be easy to take them
They'd have to secure the border to stop new guns from coming in.
3D printers are a thing too. You can still manufacture your own personal guns as long as you dont sell them.
I haven't had chance to read the full text, but this is how it works if they haven't updated this part.
https://www.thebusseylawfirm.com/crime-blog/criminal-defense/the-increase-in-diy-ghost-guns-and-what-it-means-for-you/#:~:text=According%20to%20the%20Gun%20Control,that%20you%20intend%20to%20sell.&text=In%20Colorado%2C%20there%20are%20no,are%20violating%20any%20state%20laws.
Some would say it's now a moral imperative to sell them.
Or give them away.
Depends on what you think the pronoun "they" refers to here.
Translation: surrender
If your in New Mexico, THE BLUE HOLE, is a great place to lose your weapon.
Hahaha
Did you ever see the bomb the guy dumped In There? I’ve SCUBA dived there and I will find your shit in 5 minutes with a circle search :)
"According to statements made to the fedboys there should be 100s of guns in this cenote! How come I can only find aluminum cans and carkeys? "
What is commonly not known about the blue hole is that at the 80 foot bottom it basically opens up into an underwater cave, river system. Nobody knows how long it goes but divers bodies have shown up in lakes a long ways off after they drowned in the blue hole. The currents can suck you away and then your fucked. I came close to dying in the blue hole myself. I had to do an emergency accent from 60ft with NO AIR!
THIS is why there are still troops guarding the capital.
Unfortunately, I agree. Dark times...
When you rig the game, you can plan ahead months in advance.
DING DING DING!!!
Our military is now serving foreign insurgents.
I wish those troops would start guarding the constitutional rights and God given rights instead.
We can wish all we want, but its not happening. No one is coming to save us, its up to us
I wonder why the founders were strongly against a standing army. I think we're about to find out.
Exactly!
Register as a Democrat and start donating to Democratic Party nominees, and attending Democratic Party functions.
Infiltration requires donation? No thanks
If you want to actually get somewhere, yeah. Just give it to the freaks.
Sure, but it depends on how committed to treachery one might be.
You'll survive, most here won't
It's denial. Hopefully it's not too too late when enough of them come around. Gonna lose about 90% though, will be like day z
More likely secession first.
Yes, please.
I wouldn't do the, "let them know..." part. If they are willing to enforce illegal government edicts, then you have just give them cause to use Red Flag laws to target you RIGHT NOW.
Don't warn them. Thugs will not need your warnings and do the right thing, but they will take steps to make it more costly to stop them from taking guns.
I think the 2nd Amendment Sanctuary states should expand their laws to arrest any politician that voted for this under civil rights statutes.
fuck arrest - that's a bullet in the head offense
Don't break their windows tho because you're not a real American if you do so. Me and Trump will disavow you and declare you as not a real MAGA
Too much pearl-clutching from people who still care about optics.
They're coming for the guns. Stock up on ammo now, while you can. Be prepared to use them
Half the people here will throw you under the bus as "antifa" "false flag!" if you break a window.
We're good boys on the right. We sit and take it. "Never fight back, and always stay quiet." That's my motto.
half the people here are pinkos in denial
Trump needs to understand that these people are absolutely evil and will not stop after a mere 4 years. In the end all of his supporters will be prosecuted according to the radical left, globalist rule.
He does understand. Look how abruptly he switched up on us. He got bested, or outmaneuvered, like with Covid but obviously a lot worse. This mustve been better than whatever they threatened after the steal. Maybe some time for us to actually prepare and organize
Seriously, put out arrest warrants for these traitors in your states, confine them to DC
This seems like something that's possible but the people who could do it won't.
why don't YOU do it?
How does that make any sense. I'm going to put out arrest warrants? Come on bro. I get what you're saying, but that doesn't apply to the conversation.
either you understand or you don't.
Do what? Put out arrest warrants as non-law enforcement officers? Huh??
yes. exactly that.
enjoy your rape cage, may the children of the future look back on men like you scornfully for your cowardice.
LOL ok bud.
I like it. 5 months ago I would have been on board. Now I'm not sure we had allies in government at any level that wasn't Donald J Trump, and I don't think he had the power of the presidency. If you want them arrested you're going to have to do it yourself.
So now we wait for the knock raids or no-knock raids.
Have a speeding ticket? Drunk and disorderly? Stole a pack of gum 10 years ago? No gun for you.
No-knock raids already end in a disproportionate amount of shoot-outs, even when they are at least related to criminal activity. Wonder how many of these defunded police forces that are permanently shit on by the media and their communities are going to be willing to openly execute a no-knock raid explicitly knowing they are going to be guns and massive opposition to unconstitutional edicts.
All of them. Those pensions are sweet and worth killing conservatives for.
Also let’s be honest, anyone here gonna shoot back? We had our chance to show we had balls on 1/6 and did nothing.
1/6 wasn't a protest, it was a pep rally that was supposed to be in support of Senators and Pence exercising their constitutional powers in accepting state electors.
That has no relationship with 4 cops knocking down an armed man's door in the middle of the night, just asking for a slug to the chest. Cops are already getting in gunfights over red flag laws. This isn't about people protesting or cops protesting, it's the reality of an armed populace that takes the defense of their homes seriously.
It was a protest Trump even said it was. Stop pretending we aren’t as weak as we are.
We need to get strong, get active and 1776 all over again.
Call it a protest if you want but it was nothing but a pep rally. No different than any of the political rallies Trump threw throughout the campaign. MAGA grannies aren't overthrowing the capital and if that's what you thought was going to happen then you fell for the obvious honeypot.
Maybe it was a protest but TRUMP PUSSED OUT.
HE is 100% to blame for that, he got SUCKERED.
Set up all this bullshit and then someone was like "hey you ever seen our JFK footage before?"
Trump is a good guy, and was a good president, but he's no general and he's no war chief.
Agreed.
Pepper spray and flagpoles weren't going to get it done my guy
Should’ve brought rifles.
Gee, see how that is connected to the conversation we are having right now?
Should've started with yourself taking one... see how it's easy to talk. Gee, it's almost like EVERYONE is a badass when they talk about these things. Jan 6th was a Trump rally and peaceful protest. It was never organized as anything but. Then we had fbi, antifa, and larpers like some of y'all on here go perform an idiotic exercise in futility by "storming" the Capitol with flagpoles and pepper spray. It was an embarrassment. If it were to ever happen for real I promise you it wouldn't be organized on fucking social media. And YOU would probably still not be there.
Oh don't worry though, January 6th will be taken out of its cage and paraded around like a model for everyone to see regardless of that fact.
So what if MAGA truly didn't want to rebel and take over D.C. when it can be painted that "people within the movement" wanted to anyways. And if one person wanted to, that means Trump wanted them to.
They needed a pet monkey to parade out, and they got all the video for it to chop up and direct however they wanted. It doesn't matter that Trump was still speaking for a half an hour after people got in. It's that they got in. Can't have that.
So now if a rebellion starts, look how easy it is to spin it that Trump was backchanneling to people for this rebellion? Evidence? Don't need that. January 6th. Riots and such. Now cough over the guns, citizen.
Was still waiting on my gun card. Government delayed me.
By the grace of God I am finally ready in the nick of time.
Hahahaha...
The guy advocating armed insurrection had to wait on his government permission slip.
Masterful troll, sir.
DC has no reciprocity anyway.
Yes
1/6 was nothing but a pre-emptive staged interference operation. It should be seen as a lesson on how not to conduct a protest, nothing more. It was their opportunity and their timing, the time and opportunity for patriots is yet to come. If it wasn't, the fences in DC would not be necessary.
Here's the secret: "protest" doesn't change anything. It's how the establishment manufactures consent.
I hope you are right sir. I have a feeling you are, but I hope demoralization isn’t as much of an issue I worry it might be.
Demoralization is one of their key strategies to suppress dissent, and calls for knee jerk radicalism is on the flip side for the ones for whom that doesn't work.
Well put
Me.
Great answer!
Yeah but I'm sure the left will conveniently forget the Breonna Taylor situation when they see the no-knock raids are being used against conservatives.
I've complained about police militarization for over a decade, but none of my leftist acquaintances never cared unless there was a presumed racial component. They'll cheer police brutality against conservatives without question.
absolutely 100% the proof is just showing how they reacted to the Jan 6th situation. They literally went full gestapo and the arm chair detectives trying to identify people.
There is no reason to be scared of conservatives. They are the most pathetic show-offs there are. Blacks kill your people and you do nothing. They steal your elections and you do nothing. At least the left knows how to protest.
Well, you're overlooking the fact that the leftist protesters don't have any consequences for their actions.
The left is protected by the government, and they know it.
They dont know the first thing about actual protesting.
They didn't used to be. They changed that themselves.
Giving plenty of credence to the anarchist dream, that's for sure.
ItS oK, I bAcK tHe bLuE, tHeY'LL nEVeR EnFoRcE ThIS
Otherwise known as the first domino
Technically the first domino was the NFA, but your point is still valid.
Which was wholeheartedly supported by the NRA, along with the Gun Control Act in '68. They're as swampy as an organization can get.
End the NFA!
It allows the FBI one month to process a form that expires in one month, it gives the FBI the ability to suspend gun purchases indefinitely for whoever they want for no stated reason.
You post on the donald....purchase denied
It is yet another unenforceable law, that relinquish the freedoms of law abiding citizens. All the while doing nothing to stop the criminals or enforce the laws already on the books.
Yeah, not yet. Those are drafted and yet to be heard. They are testing the waters, and so far the water for them is fine.
This can't be allowed.
This is THE PURGE.
They have activated it. Do what must be done before we become Venezuala.
They haven't activated it...yet.
There's a whole lot of pushback at every level against these illegal edicts. Let's see how that pushback shakes out before we do exactly what they want us to do.
it's funny, you think they want you to make war against them, even though everything they do points to the exact opposite action.
they want you scrambling, on the defensive.
never attack. always defend.
What I'm saying is that they are pushing us on every front, hoping a few people will get fed up and actually commit some violent insurrection. That'll give them the political cover to enact their desired police state.
I'd prefer to avoid that outcome and think there's a time and place for all things.
Suggesting strategic thinking is not necessarily defensive.
Strategic thinking shouldnt ignore timelines, or excuse inaction for patience. One questions what strategy is being employed when they continuously fail. And the definition of insanity is trying the same failed action over and over in ad finitum
And I suggest we're trying different things and they are succeeding.
Lol delusional too, well good thing its not always brains that are needed, you'll still be useful
The only way we lose is if we don't get fed up. Ultimately, they'll push until they die or we die. You're saying I should let them kill me
If we fire the first shot we lose everything.
Moot point, even if it was accurate. They already fired the first shot.
Yes, that's what he's saying.
I'm suggesting that rushing headlong into a trap isn't the wisest course of action.
There's a lot of people like me who share your anger and desire to un-f*ck this situation. Those who've stepped into leading this grass roots movement have dented this and chosen a course of action.
There will be some clear messaging on our course of action very soon. Can you hold off until then?
Couldn't you just as easily argue that if a police state is enacted, that more people will go against it? The way I see it, what you are suggesting is waiting. There will be no right time. There will be no final straw. It's starts when it starts, but if no one starts it that's never.
And the glowies on here want you to act. Don't give them participation trophies.
As if we're stupid enough to plan an armed insurrection online.....in Minecraft.
"Your honor, I've got 1724 posts stating that we need to try every legal option prior to asserting our freedom more forcefully"
They WILL die for this, one way or another...
And hopefully rot in hell for all eternity.
I'm just hoping as few of us as possible join them. To me, that means giving the peaceful solutions every chance we can before we channel that beautiful anger you express so well.
Fair enough?
No knock raids are already happening, and have been. At least in my state.
Here too.
Deets? For ownership or??
Not sure, I just know some have been conducted. I could look some up if you like, but the official story is probably "danger to others/and or self" but in reality just a regular citizen they wanted to make an example of.
Unless you vote democrat.
Name the rinos here please. Expose those fuckers!
Vern Buchanan (FL)
Brian Fitzpatrick (PA)
Maria Salazar (FL)
Andrew Garbarino (NY)
Chris Smith (NJ)
Fred Upton (MI)
Carlos Gimenez (FL)
Adam Kinzinger (IL)
Ofc Adam is fucking here.
Dude’s a fucking Democrat.
Sorry about our FL commies.
Used to live in PA, Fitzpatrick voting for it doesn't surprise me in the slightest.
Not at all. He's a lefty cunt.
Fitzpatrick is a former Special Assistant United States Attorney and Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) supervisory special agent in California.
That explains it. Thank you.
Trust me, Adam Kinzinger is OUT next election.
Trust Dominion, he isn't.
I trust Dominion. They'll sue me if I don't.
What the hell Florida.
We're a big state, bound to have pockets of retards that vote for their own kind.
Guessing by their names, they're dumb hispanics trying to implement south america socialism here.
all of them
And if Biden signs it into law, let’s seem them enforce it. Sorry to you pedes blue states, try to move to red states.
Enforcement will be extremely easy. They won't be mass door to door confiscation of anything. What they will do is "cancel" you. No government job if you don't comply. No boarding any aircraft if you don't comply. No bank accounts as they create a cashless society via their "great reset". There will be "rewards" offered that your cucked nosey neighbor will turn you in for leading to a knock on your door at 3am as the FBI and local news cameras show up at your house. You will be made an example of. By the time they are done people will be begging to turn them in simply so their kids don't go hungry.
The Mark of the Beast.
True that, but then, you know the MVP comes through in the end.
After insane carnage. Although, the armies of God survive to the end. Enlist in militias!
Based carpenter
yeah, every communist revolution is biblical.
sounds like a coping mechanism. Jesus didn't come when people were being starved out by the Bolsheviks, why should he come now?
it's not time for that yet.
Jews! Literally, Zionist Biden, and the majority of his cabinet, aka, the shadow government is all Jews, the VPs husband is a jew, and Biden's Children married Jews. BLM founded and funded by Jews, Antifa is described by Jews as the Jewish militia. But please tell me again how it's not Jews. I'll literally begging for someone to explain it to me. Everywhere jews all the time … but it's not the Jews? OK!
But I guess it doesn't matter now. The USA is ruled by a literally zionist occupation government.
Zionist Jews = Baalists/Illuminists (child-murdering, numerology-obsessed, cultists).
It really doesn't matter what they are … they are in control of our government and every single lever of control and power and the supposed "good jews" that are not "Baalists/Illuminists" say nothing and play along just as well. Is there a single Jew that is at all calling out the fact that a population that is far less than the touted 2% of our population has to much power and control and influence, with a Zionist Biden and all the powerful cabinet positions are held by jews? And if they aren't Jews, they're literally Jew worshipers and servants. It's simply not healthy no matter how any rational person looks at it. It would be the same if the dynamics were an other group. Muslims, Hindus, Aliens even. "Whites", aka, Europeans are literally being ethnically cleansed from the USA and totally disowned and disempowered because even if they are "white" in the government, they are essentially all cucks.
I'm just saying, the Holobunga made Jews a protected class. Call them EXACTLY what they are now.
Besides, Orthodox Jews were subverted even before us.
That may be possible and I am more than willing to accept that orthodox jews were subverted and am more than willing to accept them as allies in the fight against what is really a psychopath demigod class of globalists only led by the "Jews". If the dumb evangelicals weren't so utterly subjugated and brainrotted by the Jews and were instead leading all this stuff, I would be opposed to them just as vehemently. But that's just it, they are really just dumb goys that are being used to enable and facilitate the Jewish dominance and takeover of the whole world. At no time in human history has anyone ever come closer than the Jews at total global conquest and domination as they are looking poised to do now. That's not something against them … it's something against their ways and objectives and because I like humanity and actual diversity of differences and uniqueness. They HATE it.
See, when they knock at 3am you open fire. We VASTLY outnumber them. If we make it a test of who has more blood to spend we will win.
They won't take casualties as they pick us off one by one in raids where they control the engagement.
How's that working out in the middle east over the last 20 years? The few they'll catch off guard. Or they won't. Either way we outnumber them 1000s to 1. Be the Lion.
Yes, the successful guerillas in other countries are a strong argument. My only counter to that would be, look at the resources and political power in those countries. In all cases, the state forces that are held at bay are limited in resources and power. Any foreign military force is constrained by the manpower and resources they bring with them. In internal conflicts, the country is usually poor and not one of the top political seats of power in the world. Both of these factors are completely different in the US. The state forces here are extremely well funded, extremely high-tech, and there is overwhelming political backing behind them. If FARC or the Taliban had been created in the US, they would have been WACO'd real fast.
The feds and Leos aren't soldiers. Once the door kicking starts getting those lazy donut eating bastards shot they won't want to continue. And even if they did the sheer difference in numbers between Us and law enforcement is insane. The same goes for the military even with the military weapons and training all those dudes ain't gonna be about bringing war to the American people. When this split starts at the military level we have us a genuine civil war. Yes, innocent people will die and they will tale Lots of guns and ammo but unless everyone is as big of coward and defeatist as you are it won't be like you and all the other doomers think. It'll be Much worse.
Everyone's situation is different. I live in an apartment with paper thin walls, surrounded by either liberal or non-gun owning neighbors. And I have a 9 month old. There is no way for me to fortify my apartment or survive a raid by a well equipped and organized force for any significant length of time. I'm clearly talking about people in a situation similar to mine. We will be picked off in our apartments at very little risk to the attackers.
Maybe you live in a veritable bunker filled with traps and mines, but I guarantee any government force wouldn't enter your little fortress unawares.
We're not organized, and besides, where do you see fights taking place that work out for us? You're limited to ambush tactics, and if you think we're at that point already, then all I can say is, "you first".
First of all. They won't knock. Second point. You are now a domestic terrorist with your dead face plastered across all of the fake stream media as an example to everyone else. Outnumbering them doesn't mean shit. You yourself are alone with your family. You where just killed live on TV as you opened fire on a "brave police officer". This is EXACTLY what the deep state wants. This is not us versus them. It's individuals trying to live their own life with their family versus them. They GREATLY outnumber each of us. They system is VASTLY more powerful than us as individuals. This is how the modern civil war will be fought. We don't stand a chance.
Who cares. Better die with honor that be slaughtered like an animal in butchery. Shiroyama & Banzai if necessary.
Either way. The Deep State gets what they want.
Maybe,but who will decide the price they will pay ? They think they will take our loved ones. We wait for them.We wait for them and will make sure that if they will try not only our orphans and widdows will cry. It is last warning. Not only in USA but worldwide for cabal members and servants of those monsters. Don't tread on us.
Statist fascist terrorists will not kill us like sheeps. We are not terrorists.We are civilians.None of us conservatives is terrorist. We want to live in peace. But if this will be impossible we will die standing,and will try to fight even if with our teeth and bare fists. But guns are more effective,so none American shall give them his/her gun without a fight.
Disarming civilians in USA is turning point without return for anyone,not only in America,because it means American freedom is lost. Guns are fangs of freedom.
If you care about what strangers think about you - after you're dead - more than you fear living life as a slave you should sell your guns to someone who isn't a coward.
No. I care about what people think of YOU after you are dead. I don't what dead Patriots. I don't want the Deep State to win. I don't want them to take their narrative and brain wash the world with it. And if you think I'm a coward you are deadly wrong. I'm in this to fight because I love my country. But the LAST thing we need is a bunch of dip shits shooting cops.
If they will come for guns there will be no other options,because if Deep State will take guns - then will win and they will be able to slaughter patriots like sheeps anyway.
You're correct and it's been happening in China for a long time now. They're trying to turn America into China.
"Don't fight them, just let them do whatever they want. Otherwise they'll win!"
If it comes to blood there will be blood on both sides. I don't want or seek it but I accept the reality of the matter. I'd love to avoid it and I'm welcome to any suggestions, but if confiscation happens a bunch of dipshits shooting cops is exactly what we need.
They aren't cops at that point, genius, they're communists with a badge. Learn the difference.
Is that why we're still in the middle east kicking in doors? Cause it's just that easy? Local Leo's aren't trying to be fucking hero's and their aren't that many feds. I guess if they bring to bear the full weight of our military against its citizens.
And if that's what they want. That's what they'll get. You can help your wife and kids into cattle car like a good boy. I'll take my chances. I seriously doubt I'm the only one with this mindset. Stay afraid sheep.
You're right, and I've posted this same thing before. I hope we haven't been giving them ideas, but this is exactly what they'll do. The "from my cold dead hands" folks will be boxing up their weapons and taking them to the local sheriff voluntarily. The pain will be too great otherwise. We've already let them wrap the ropes around us, all they need to do is start pulling them tight and most people will comply.
That takes enforcement across the board. Soft power because it’s only perceived.
Either that or states ignore it the way other states ignore immigration law.
No retreat, no surrender.
3 letters have jurisdiction in red states
We're at war with the deep state. They can eat bullets.
Americans are pussies, nobody will do anything.
Time will tell.
They have just declared war. Their lives are forfeit.
They declared war on 11/4 when they stole the election. They have been living on borrowed time ever since, and they know it (hence all the fortifications in DC)
We need to start thinking our way out of this disaster.
Organize!
Organize!
Organize!
Do NOT allow them to turn us into Venezuala. I want to see the scrotum RIPPED off George Soros's crinkled face when this is over!
You and me both, friend.
I have a small group of like minded individuals in my area to band up with if SHTF or word gets around there is a high value target in our midst.
sounds like a cuck who has no back-up
Nope. I just realize the truth. Americans wont do anything until they are being led to camps and at that point it will be far too late.
Gotta get the guns first. Anyone that actually surrenders them deserves to be on that train, they killed themselves
Yuri Benzemov was right
and so, pray tell, you are armed in what country again?
Britbong
True enough. Already mass degeneracy and corruption and what? We are just waiting for them to take the fire sticks? Common
"christian knight"
FEDS ARE CUCKS THEY WON'T DO ANYTHING
If you're going to complain and whine and blame your on inaction on others, if you plan on failing, go join the 41%ers and spare us dealing with your pathetic cowering and retardation. You are not the average, you are the bottom of the barrel.
We’ll see about that.
Duncan Lemp, and the people in Waco saw about it.
Clive Buddy and friends disagree.
they never did anything, the feds did a strategic retreat to prevent the shot heard round the world. They are still in power and working behind the scenes to make sure the next stand off ends with dead pedophi..I mean Americans.
Didn't Waco inspire OKC?
Doesn't seem like a Win in the feds column to me.
People in OKC also saw about that.
Ruby Ridge and Waco would like a word.
Clive Buddy and friends disagree.
I have a three letter agency for them...
Alpha
Mike
Foxtrot
Time for some real sanctuary states.
Enforce it
This will be enforced by the Feds.
I sense many Feds will die in the near future...
This is not the type of rhetoric we need her.
Be smart.
Just the opposite. That is warning for them,to stop them from big,big mistake...
Snake his before you tread, dog will bark, and even cat which is usually silent when you tread on his tail wouldn't be pussy.
And you think local/state watch them roll in?
Yup, I'll be moving very soon, myself. Thank GOD!
USA is becoming a shit hole. And because of that, it's high time we think of the safety and best interests of the illegals and stop them from coming here as here is going to be worse than there.
Fuck everyone in Govt.
The government is a hostile criminal Mafia.
Treat it accordingly.
Anyone enforcing unconstitutional gun laws is also no better than a garden-variety armed criminal.
PREACH!
Live local. Like another poster said, call your sheriff, organize with your neighbors, they can't occupy all of the counties.
“I'll ignore their unconstitutional gun control the same way I ignored their unconstitutional mask mandates and the same way they ignored the unconstitutional election results.”
This is honestly the heart, of the best comments here so far. You should be at the top.
It's really not, it's just more whinging from someone who probably lives in a Blue city in a Blue state, mad that Trump voters he/she knows wears their mask in public and to events.
News flash: red areas in EVERY state and red states, in general, don't give a shit about mask laws. Save your propaganda and whining about what you saw on DA TEEVEE and TWITTER for someone who cares
HAHHAAAA loads another magazine
And so I started blasting
The ‘10 days’ is a trick they tried before that traps buyers into a Byzantine endless loop:
“Under the proposed legislation, the 3-day safety valve would be eliminated and replaced with a procedure that provides gun buyers with no protection. If an FFL initiates a check and does not receive a response from NICS after 10 business days, the prospective purchaser may petition the FBI to permit the transfer to proceed. The FFL may not proceed with the transaction until an additional 10 business days have elapsed from the date of the petition.
Existing federal law limits the validity of a NICS background check to 30 calendar days from the date it is initiated. Because H.R. 1112 uses business days and the NICS validity provision is in calendar days, in practice, H.R. 1112 would have no default proceed available.
For example, if H.R. 1112 were to become law, gun buyers who are delayed on the busiest gun buying day of the year, Black Friday, would not be able to clear their delay under H.R. 1112’s provisions before their NICS check expired. Black Friday 2019 falls on November 29th, so the first day that the prospective purchaser could file a petition would be December 14th.
The additional 10-business day wait after the petition would make December 31st the first day that the FFL could transfer the firearm, but that would be prohibited because the NICS check expired on December 29th. The purchaser would have to begin the process again with another NICS check, with the likely result being another delay and the process beginning all over again.”
https://www.nraila.org/articles/20190215/turning-a-right-into-a-privilege-hr-1112-gives-feds-unfettered-power-to-block-gun-sales
Even 7 Republicunts?
WSJ said it was 8
Dominion has infiltrated WSJ
Now that we know the establishment DS chooses who wins elections it's easier to understand why rinos switch sides on major issues. It's the carrot and the big stick.
ick!
Have you seen the cucks infesting the GOP? I’m surprised that there weren’t more, but they only needed enough to pass it so the rest can still pretend to represent their constituents.
if by complete miracle HR 1 is killed in Senate, I'm hoping ALL the RINOs are primaried with NONE LEFT
Infesting? The GOP has been infested for decades
Republicans are worthless
Always have been.
Agree. Traitors get the guillotine first.
They get the guillotine first.
Worse. Worthless would be to not vote. Instead they vote with their enemy.
Politicians are worthless
R.I.P. America 1776-2020/2021
Henceforth this land shall be called Clown Land
It’s not clown land it’s communism. Stop softening what it is.
It’s this. Prepare accordingly.
https://metallicman.com/laoban4site/what-the-progressive-liberals-have-in-store-for-conservatives/
peoples republic of the united states
the globalists want you to blame communism and the jews
now tell us what you know about the aliens
What does this bill do?
It gives the fbi no time limit to do the background checks. Think weed tax stamp from the 30s
And its only the beginning. Theyll pass more
This is the point where if you don't already have guns, you're basically screwed. You should have at least a handgun, shotgun, and rifle.
Keep buying ammo until the elites shut that industry down.
Oh I got a few can always use more though
The time window is rapidly closing to buy guns that aren't traced to a central registry. This is one of my top priorities right now (acquisition of firearms and bulk ammo). Firstly, you can resell them at a premium to people who are trying to avoid new unconstitutional bans on gun and ammo sales. Secondly, you'll have plenty for you, your friends, and family to use should the need arise.
Yep working on ammo right now
It’s 20 days, still complete bullshit though
Makes private gun sales illegal.
So instead of a private sale, do a private trade...
“Jump through another hoop for your freedom.”
Whatever. I live in a faggot blue state and I don't abide by 99% of the gun laws here. Why should I be stripped of my rights just because I moved to state run by morons? The time for non-compliance is NOW.
Youll go to jail all the same if they find out.
Uh oh
Whole government is illegal who gives a fuck lol
Who gives a flying fuck about these utterly imaginary "laws"?
Destroys 2A.
Ok well looks like im going to the gun store asap haha
Which 7 Republicans?
It does not matter, all Republicans are corrupt. You should know this by now. We are run by a uniparty oligarchy.
They all have to go, even if there are good ones, it doesn't matter anymore.
not Ron Paul.
him too.
wtf? who do you want...
It also does not matter because they don't need any Republicans. The cheated enough to get a bare majority in both houses (Senate with Kommie). The POTATUS will sign anything put before him.
The 2A is toast, folks.
They aren't republicans, but I still want to know who they are.
stop calling them that
Why? Since when has 'Republican' been a badge of honor? I've been voting for these feckless losers since I was 18, so trust me, it's a badge of shame that most of them deserve carved on their nameless gravestones.
Since I got involved.
humble yourself.
KYS l0zer
pride cometh before the fall.
https://youtu.be/GctTzHyX4O0?t=29
Manchurian spies*
They are republicans and conservatives.
We are reactionaries. We do not want to conserve the status quo.
Republicans are supposed to be the party of freedom and of the republican form of government. If they don't meet those two criteria, I consider them rinos instead.
You’ll vote for your local rino in 2022 I guarantee it.
Same 4 npc's who voted for Romney in 12 and for 43 twice because they were "the lesser of two evils" just downvoted this pede for telling facts.
Thank you! Reactionaries oppose social and political reform. Everything's so upside down and ass backwards now that we desperately need reactionaries to create an American Renaissance.
Do we want to conserve degeneracy, socialism and totalitarianism?
No! We want a Christian country, with a government existing for the sole purpose of protecting the natural rights given to us BY GOD!
This is fucking insane.
This is communism. Mass civilian purges IMMINENT.
I thought the vaccine was for that.
Oh, there will be multiple methods. The vaccines will likely shorten average life expectancy by a huge margin. The future slave class of humans will get roughly half of the current amount of years on this Earth, while elites live longer and longer, indoctrinating generations from birth (possibly transferring their consciousness to new vessels, so they can rule our bloodlines forever).
Yes, if we do nothing, the future will be THAT horrific.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/03/11/house-passes-democrat-bill-criminalizing-private-gun-sales/
HR8 - All sales, even personal, require background checks.
Still has to pass the senate, but likely will.
I'm not sure how they're going to be able to enforce background checks on ALL sales
Do you really think the fella selling them out of the back of his van is going to run a background check on his buyers? Hell no, cause he wont' make money cause all the buyers will fail a background check.
That’s where a gun registry comes in handy.
This is the gun registry.
Forcing a background check on every sale, traces the history and possession of every gun.
Isn't there already kind of a gun registry?
Buy a gun, they tie the serial number to your name. Is that not how it works?
Right now, no. You buy a gun from a retail store, they record serial in 4473 which stays in custody of the retailer until the retailer goes out of business, at which point they turn over their 4473's to ATF. But this just indicates who was the first retail sale of the gun. You could sell, trade, lose, destroy, etc the firearm and no one would know.
If LEO recovers a gun from a crime, they can look up the serial number to see what distributor had it and which retailer sold it. They can get the 4473 and see who it was sold to, and then go to that person and investigate what happened to the gun. But unless there is a provable connection between you and the criminal suspect, you can say "I sold it to some guy" and that's all there is.
The primary purpose of a gun registry is to be able to confiscate all guns in the future. The way that works is the government says turn in this gun which we know you own. You can't claim you no longer have the gun, because if you do, you are guilty of not having the gun which is registered to you in your possession, in which case you go to jail anyway.
This bill is the first step to having a full gun registry.
Gun stores keep form 4473 for years and give them to the FBI upon request so there pretty much is already a registry. I also don't believe NICS deletes their records like they claim so that is another registry.
As far as I know the feds can't look up your name and see which guns you own. The firearms dealer maintains a record of the transaction for some period of time, after which it's destroyed. Also the NICS background check system is not tied to your physical address.
the goal isnt 100% enforcement. The goal is to make more criminals out of otherwise law abiding people. Why do you think weed is still illegal?
"Criminals don't obey laws, so we need more laws" - every gun control law ever.
This is just to discourage responsible people from arming themselves, and to give them better records for when the confiscation comes. I encourage everyone to give guns to unarmed friends, off the record. A well and anonymously armed populace is our best bet.
WIth the fillibuster still in place, it's unlikely. But we are in Clown World, so ... Honk Honk
You're counting on Republicans to do the right thing. That's where you're wrong.
Filibuster. They used up their reconciliation for this year.
Don't they need 60? I don't know that they have 60 senators.
HERE ARE THE TRAITORS THAT VOTED YES
Vern Buchanan (FL)
Brian Fitzpatrick (PA)
Maria Salazar (FL)
Andrew Garbarino (NY)
Chris Smith (NJ)
Fred Upton (MI)
Carlos Gimenez (FL)
Adam Kinzinger (IL)
Every one of them committed treason right then and there
Does treason really stack like that?
This is the list we need. Primary these mfers...
There is no political solution.
Voting someone out isn't a punishment.
Sadly it isn't, and sadly we need true patriots to be viable candidates. They'll go on to work for lobbying organizations and make more money anyway.
RATS!
This is so stupid. Do they really believe people who commit gun related crimes are getting their guns from places that do background checks?
It's not about criminals.
It's about creating new ones.
2020: I'm despise criminals
2021: I'm sort of a criminal myself
They are frustrated by the demos of criminals and so they want to make it illegal to be rural white.
Under-supply and over-demand. Sad!
They know full we'll it isn't, but an armed populace is the only thing stopping then from full on communism. They're going to follow what NYC to install full gun control.
No, they don't believe that. They also don't really believe that a guy selling guns out of his van is going to run background checks on his buyers cause they'll all fail. They know black market dealers won't run background checks, no way they can trace those guns anyways as the serial numbers are always scratched off.
Gun control laws aren't about punishing the criminals, it's about punishing the law abiding citizens.
They don't care about criminals... They care about people who love their country
It’s never been about the criminals
What part of "Shall not infringe" is so fucking hard to understand?
They dont care. Load another magazine
Only way they're going to get it is to suffer for passing this law. I'll let you work out the details.
"Every time my dog shits on the carpet I give him a treat"
"WHY WONT HE STOP SHITTING ON THE CARPET!!!???"
I wish I could hug your dog.
You could never get your arms around him.
Fat little shit...
Damn.
It's hard to understand when our side stands up for nothing. Of course they are going to push the envelope.
They understand it perfectly. That's why they're working so hard to infringe.
Got my rifle in the nick of time.
They literally fucked me out of a card by delaying delivery 🤬
Blue states must BURN!!!
Yup took me 9 months to get it. I am so lucky that it didn’t take longer.
Fellow IL?
Just a blue state 😉
Maybe just leave the blue states?
Wisconsin is turning blue, but gun sales here are pretty chill unless you are the FFL.
It's the illusion of blue, not actually blue. Thanks to dominion, this is happening in many states
Yes. Sorry. I meant to say that the Dems are literally taking over by force.
Wisconsin people are firmly Trump conservatives.
Oh, I'm moving soon. Thank FUCK!
Don't worry. Everyone on the right will be very upset. They will bitch and moan while waiting in line for their box car and will make sure they talk to someone in charge when they get to the camp.
Now you need to stockpile weapons for fellow pedes to borrow in the war.
This. My fiance asks me why i need another gun when i already have more than i can carry myself. This is the way, i hope i come across a friendly pede that will help cover a sector of fire.
I need to train
You should go out and find them now so you dont have to hope to run into them when shit hits the fan. The most important thing any of us can do right now is EVERYONE should be finding local pedes.
Still has to pass the senate, but if this passes, this is the line. We all know what type of authoritarian nightmare comes next and what'll happen to 80 million people. It's not even a question of if, but when, and the accelerationists aren't fucking around so expect as soon as possible not 20 years from now. This'll be phase one of a multi-phase process through legislation and whatever else to make people get rid of their guns or to lock them up. Then that's that. Game over. I think everyone here knows that already. If this passes people might want to start blocking off their free time to dedicate to this problem.
What are the details of this bill?
take off your pants
turn around and bend over
???
no profit for you, faggot
I hope #3 is an RJ
Essentially all sales have to pass a federal background check which generally takes a fair amount of time. However this has only passed the house and must pass the senate before being put into Law.
They found 7 GOP to vote to convict, 20 to confirm Gungrabber, you honeatly think they'll have a hard time getting 10 for this?
I don't know the future and since I know that you yourself do not possess any faculties I do not possess I can be sure that you do not know the future either.
Don’t get me wrong, I hope I’m wrong. But putting faith in GOP senators to do the right thing and support the constitution doesn’t have the best track history
Freedom or Death
too bad i had this boating accident where all my guns fell into the river. just too bad
What's the point of owning then
see amendment 2 for more information
You aren't going to use amendment 2 if you are grasping for boating accident
Great, now there will be no guns for the “domestic terrorists” to take to the next “insurrection”. Oh wait...
idgaf. You're not taking my guns and I'm not paying shit
Police, sheriffs, law enforcement, are you willing to give up your lives for Biden and Democrats, people that hate and want to defund you, people that celebrate and encourage BLM and AntiFA attacks against you? No, than entirely ignore any gun grabbing orders from a false administration.
Does anyone know which law this is and what provisions it has in it?
Federal registry of who owns what guns on new purchases.
3D printer goes BRRRRR
that cant be all
"...establish background check requirements for gun sales between private parties, prohibiting transfers unless a licensed gun dealer, manufacturer or importer first takes possession of the firearm to conduct a background check. The legislation would not apply to certain transfers, such as a gift between spouses."
I identify as married to everyone.
2022: marriage/divorce rates between straight dudes go up
Why only license gun dealer, manufacturer or importer? Why not police or other law enforcement?
Hell, most private gun sales around here, take place in front of the police station, with a police officer there. I mean, the ones where neither is a felon, since we don't have many people, the police pretty much know who is and isn't a felon.
Also, it says as a gift between spouses, what about siblings or between a mother/father and son/daughter?
Only in Alabama.
I kind of already thought that was a thing. I thought when you bought one, it "registered" it in the system or something.
I thought that's why when you bought a gun from an individual, you had to re-register it at a police station or something, that way, if you report it stolen or lost, and they find it, they can check the serial number to see if it's the one that matches your record.
No. Gun stores are required to keep records but in theory, they are not accessible by government agencies (though we know theory and practice often don't agree).
Private transfers were not tracked.
Basically, get whatever the fuck you can before this passes the Senate if you still want to have guns that the feds don't know about.
If you fill out a 4473, they'll know about it. The difference will be is you won't have plausible deniability for not having it by saying "I sold it at a gun show for cash to a stranger" if you filled out a 4473 for that gun after the UBC law goes into effect.
Right but the 4473 does not register your gun into a central database (which is ultimately what they want). Gun dealers keep records of sales, but good luck figuring out where I got mine from
Yet. I'm sure they're gonna start putting copies of every 4473 into a database if they haven't already started doing so. Part of the reason (I think) that they haven't been doing so on a large scale is because up until now there have been so many ways to legally acquire a firearm without filling out a 4473 that any central database would have more holes in it than Swiss cheese. I think they're focusing first on making sure there's no way to legally acquire a firearm without filling out a 4473 ( which would explain them prioritizing UBCs and "Ghost guns" over stuff like an AWB).
Once they've made it illegal to buy, make, or receive a gun without filling out a 4473, I think then they will start entering 4473s into a centralized database in earnest. I'd also expect them to make it mandatory to report any "lost" or stolen firearms within xx hours of losing them, in order to patch that "hole" in the 4473 registry. Obviously this wouldn't effectively register all the 500 million firearms in circulation now, but many of them would become registered inadvertently by "law abiding gun owners" who would insist on selling their guns "legally."
To require a background check for every firearm sale. https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/8/text
Do not give up. Now call you senators, even if they are Dem and put pressure on them. if you are not sure how to do this effectively, check out : https://nationalgunrights.org/
You act like we live in a democracy...
I think you mean Republic, but I get your meaning. I say, you act like you have surrendered the Republic... I have not surrendered.
I’m just ready to fight already
This ALLLL falls on police types. Just don’t do it.
Are they willing to die for Democrats who hate them?
Goddamn the torpedoes!!! GODDAMN FUCKING RINOS!!! I HOPE THEY ALL GO TO HELL!!!
They’re demons in disguise so they’ll go back to hell when Jesus comes back.
How long do we have before this is passed and signed? I have shit to buy.
Depending on what new treasons they commit, today or tommorrow. Or a few weeks. Or a few months. Or a year or two.
Don't wait. Decide to do nothing right now! Run -don't walk!- to obey.
If this passes, im already a heavy felon. Might as well become an uber felon.
The Republican party is no good, its a moldy edible toxic to you if you still eat what they give. It's beyond saving. This talk of 2024, by the time you get there, you'll be de-balled and have no voice with your vote. So what now...thats the hard part.
There is no two party system, they are one. R&D
Research (opposition) & Destroy (opposition)
We are their opposition.
Oh I know that. its Patriots vs Communist now. There is no two party system. Its been a culture war supersede by a power vacuum. The problem is we have no formal hierarchy, no organization.
They're going to vaccinate the obedience into us
Resist them however ways you can in the meantime. It looks dark now, but all hope is not lost.
What's the TL;DR of the bill?
The FBI is allowed to fully suspend gun purchases indefinitely on an individual or blanket basis. Plus a bunch of other anti-2A shit
Cool. Another fucking screenshot. Can we get an actual link to the Bill?
Just search HR 8 and HR 1446. Hr8 passed, 1446 is being voted on.
WHO ARE THE 7 RINOS ???
Is there ANYTHING Republicans can vote unitedly on?
Raising my taxes.
Approving a stolen election.
Selling out to Chyna while complaining that Chyna is taking over.
Does this bill include:
Universal Background check Gun registry (this is for new guns only?) Closing the Charleston loop?
Is that accurate?
Universal Background check probably. Which there is absolutely no way they can enforce this.
Do you really think the guy selling guns out of the back of his van is going to throw clients away by doing a background check?
This bill does NOTHING to stop the illegal sales, and does everything to stop law abiding citizens.
which means the law works as intended. Laws are not meant to stop criminals. They are meant to stop YOU.
These laws are designed by the elites to strip the means of the people to check and balance the government in order to stop them from ever getting too uppity.
The criminals are Democrat voters.
Yes. HR8 is the UBC registry. It will effectively register every gun bought on a 4473 (new or used) after it goes into effect. Guns on a 4473 filled out before it goes into effect will still have plausible deniability, since you could have legally sold them privately.
HR1446 has to do with NICS delays, and changes the burden of proof from the government to the buyer.
Question is, will they go into homes to try & confiscate them?
Red states, no. Blue states, maybe. Purple states, I hope not.
Unless you live in a state that forces you to register your firearms, theoretically nothing is tied to your name. The dealer maintains records of the serial numbers of firearms sold to purchasers, but it doesn't end up in a central database. So, nobody's gonna come looking for something they don't know is there.
thankfully looks like people have been making good use of the opportunity to buy up all the guns in 2020 & in past few months
Of course they will. Look at history
Scary, but it still has to get past the filibuster blockade in the Senate.
Lol, they'll find 10 votes. Just wait. Turtle boy will make it happen.
20 Senate RINOs voted just yesterday to confirm gun grabber Merrick Garland as AG. They'll find 10 for this bill easy-peasy.
What's the chance that this actually passes?
What did we think chance was of Biden getting in office and all the shit that has gone down in just two mths happening? Still all happened.
No one (not Trump and definitely not "q") is saving us but ourselves and our Heavenly Father.
Agreed. Remember five months ago, how we all thought that the Supreme Court would finally be on the side of the constitution? It wasn't for the election. It won't be for the second amendment. We need to plan for the worst at this point.
What are the chances of republican's pussying out of a fillibuster? Pretty decent.
The chances are...
If they need 60 votes, 0.
You realize 20 R Senators just voted to confirm Merrick Garland, right?
come and take it
Red states need to nullify
Who are the “SEVEN”?
Vern Buchanan (FL)
Brian Fitzpatrick (PA)
Maria Salazar (FL)
Andrew Garbarino (NY)
Chris Smith (NJ)
Fred Upton (MI)
Carlos Gimenez (FL)
Adam Kinzinger (IL)
Of course that useless RINO piece of crap Kitzinger voted for the Bill.