If he was just some random white dude I would agree with you. Dereck did everything by the book. This case has the potential to set a new precedent for police encounters.
just think if they say he's guilty no policeman can ever be safe doing his job again . IF hes innocent the communists will use this opportunity to cause a massive riot and blame the blacks they win ether way .
Minneapolis is gonna burn regardless. They should cordon off the city limits and declare it a "purge movie" type event. At least then the average citizen has a chance to defend themselves against ANTIFA scum.
An old high school friend of mine recently sold his pub there, and I know he worked his ass off to build that business and I'm sure he took a huge loss. I don't feel much sympathy for him though because he turned leftist and raised a whole family of leftist kids there. I have no doubt that he and his family voted for the Democrats allowing this shit to happen.
Fentafloyd died in the morning, before 9 o'clock (it was pronounced dead at the hospital around 9:30 AM).
The toxicology exam was taken about 12 hours after that.
Fentanyl's half-life is somewhere between 2 to 4 hours. Let's take 4 to be conservative.
At time of death the blood concentration was ~8x higher than the toxicology exam (3 half-lives).
At time of death, Fentafloyd had ~90 ng/mL of fentanyl in the blood.
That is about ~10 times the average amount to overdose and die. Of course Fentafloyd might have some resistance since that was not his first rodeo of swalling drugs when stopped by cops.
Edit: points 2-3 do not apply, as some of you pointed out. I'll keep it so people understand the context of the corrections.
One of the main issues is that we are allowing them to control the narrative. What if we insisted that the real narrative is actually that China has flooded the US with fentanyl to kills thousands of people like George Floyd and destroy our cities? The conversation would become very different. Why is it that we have a genuine public health crisis where people are actually dying in the streets yet we refuse to discuss it and our health departments ignore it?
This is what pisses me off the most. Sunday will mark 1 year since a lost a very close friend to fentanyl. Single mom working at a vet and going to school, left a 5 year old kid behind. She was an addict, but had been clean for a few years, made one decision to get fucked up and died over it.
The numbers are nothing short of jaw dropping and it is absolutely a serious public health crisis yet all we get are crickets. However, someone might catch a new flu and it is wall to wall mass hysteria. We live in very strange times. Sorry for your loss.
I've seen a lot of drug abuse over the years through family, friends, and through my industry. I struggled with alcohol for a few years after I left the millitary, if you need someone to talk to any time pm me and you can grab my number.
CDC blocked this narrative when they blamed the opioid epidemic on prescription narcotics vs illicit narcotics - double counting overdoses, adding any death as OD with opioids in system and not directing further testing protocols for morgues (Remind you of anything?). Yes, OxyContin was the tip of the spear, but it’s been 10-15 years since that was “the” issue. Diversion is one thing and pill mills are pretty much shut down, but those pale in comparison to the amount of synthetic analogs flooding dope markets since about 2010.
Looking at his tox tells me he got a few pressed fake Oxys (or bad Molly) from a cartel downstream which are basically drug cocktails at this point. There are usually a few in the bag of 1000 meant to kill, while the rest are pressed out with meth, fent, coke and a few other oddities like horse tranquilizers, for fill etc. Fun stuff.
Oh that's so cute, you still think the government cares. No, they want they dead. They won't be happy until you're in the ground. So of course they don't talk the real problems facing americans, because to them you're scum and they wish you'd hurry up and off yourself
Could not agree more. We’re letting tens of thousands of our neighbors die each year in absolute misery and solitude. We need to change the narrative. Floyd deserves our sympathy and prayers as a victim of a totally different systemic problem. The media is poison.
Doesn't the "half life" refer to the metabolic rate of consumption?
So once his metabolism stops at death the amount in his system stays the same (or at least none is metabolized by his body). I'm sure there's another pathway of decay that is slower and more based on tissue decomposition, but that's another story.
That is a genuine interesting thought. I guess I applied my physics sloppily. Considering the flow of blood stopped with the arrest of respiratory functions, it must have had an effect on the circulation and rates of depletion of those substances.
I'd wager you're correct, but I cannot tell what's the relation between those rates. I suppose the digestion goes on for hours, but maybe it is not absorbed into the bloodstream and the report gives a fairer idea of the amount in the bloodstream, maybe it underestimates the amount not absorbed in the intestines. Also there would likely be an excess of products of the reaction in other tissues.
I guess my math would only work if he hadn't died.
It's getting outside of my wheelhouse, as I'm not a doctor, but drugs don't have a 'half life", that I'm aware of - and if he was deceased, his body would have stopped processing it, in his bloodstream or his digestive system.
Having said that, 11 ng/ml is death for anyone. I recall reading an article that most fentanyl deaths occur between 11-14 ng/ml. And, Floyd was not in good health to begin with. He was a long time drug abuser with heart problems, who was also smoking cigarettes (or smoking pot via blunts.) (he tested positive for both).
Not necessarily. Chemicals can still be absorbed into the tissue and taken out of the blood stream. Look into succinylcholine. It's a popular way to kill people via OD, because it burns through the blood stream so fast, it can be hard to pick up during an autopsy.
Are you saying he was going to die that day no matter what?
Also, why would an experienced junkie like Floyd take such a lethal dose? Did he know he was taking that much or did someone slip him a Mickie. I'd like to know the answer to that one.
And if the court rules that way, as they should, then all of the people pushing the BLM narrative all look like even bigger idiots, which will trigger even more rage.
This doesn't appear that it'll be a long trial, so let's expect some serious unrest coming to a Blue city in 3.....2.....1.......
Most likely his 2 "friends" were people he was meeting to sell fent or meth too. Cops pulled up he swallowed teh stash like he did in 2019.
Who else rolls around with shit load of drugs on them and meets randos in front of a convivence store, then just sits around after passing a fake 20 waiting for the cops to come? Put 2 and 2 together and it has all the hallmarks of a drug deal gone bad where he had to swallow his stash or wind up back in the big house.
That day? No. He had fairly serious heart issues and was a regular drug abuser, so he was burning his wick out pretty efficiently. But once he swallowed the evidence, he was headed for death pretty efficiently.
He didn't take that dosage to get high. He ate his stash, or part of it, so the cops wouldn't find it.
That seems to be the consensus. I think this site and its predecessor was more on top of the story than the places I was last June. I hadn't made that connection.
In this case half life is in reference to a living human breaking down or excreting the substance in question. When you die your body stops breaking it down. This guy was a hardcore user and had a lot of resistance it seems.
Facts don't matter, bruh. Black criminal dies, regardless of how, and the black supremacist groups, along with their handlers, burn the country down "in protest." Just how deep into third-world lunacy is our country going to get?
Amphetamine, to which methamphetamine is metabolized after use to some extent, also happens to act upon opioid receptors in few areas and generally can, paradoxically, add to respiratory depression
Report also states that he smoked (cotinine is a metabolite of nicotine). Amphetamines make you crave that smoke BIGLY and he probably was chain smoking hard.
Combine it with temporarily (also, dose dependent) heightened lung capacity (due to adrenergic activity) all pumped with cigarette smoke, which then was afterwards taxed with huge opioid overdose
I was always a brainy kid but unfortunately life paths are complex. I sometimes kinda regret I didn't pursue more "scientific" paths but blue collar jobs are also nice. Machining in particular
"Overdose results in respiratory depression which is reversible with naloxone. Sudden death can also occur because of cardiac arrest or severe anaphylactic reaction. The estimated lethal dose of fentanyl in humans is 2 mg. The recommended serum concentration for analgesia is 1–2 ng/ml and for anaesthesia it is 10–20 ng/ml"
Not true at all. My mom was getting fentanyl when she was dying of cancer, I believe it was more than 1 ng/ml an hour via a patch. From what I dimly remember learning about fentanyl (to distract myself from watching my mom die in slow motion) is that the patches released the fentanyl to I think 3-4 ng/ml levels.
Floyd was fucking twisted as a motha. Meth Fentanyl Cigarettes Coffee and weed, all at once. That's like a fulltime job, condidering how high his baseline must be for him to not already be dead before he tried to buy cigs with fake money
Media, politicians, activist, celebrities all pushed this supposed idea that an innocent victim was killed by the police. Those who perpetrated this fraud should get prison.
Good thing the court room looks like a nation at war's border checkpoint... I can't wait to see these idiots kill eachother over a man who has bettered the world by swallowing his collection of drugs.
No, he WOULD walk if he got a fair trial, but the jury selection shows one thing. The only people they are gonna get are those willing to lie about their biases, who will pretend they have never heard of Henry Floyd just so they can be on the jury and write a book.
Break out the marshmallows for the fires.
George Fent is the worst martyr in history. He killed himself.
i bet my mate that hes gonna be fucked and sentenced guilty for 3rd degree murder
If he was just some random white dude I would agree with you. Dereck did everything by the book. This case has the potential to set a new precedent for police encounters.
just think if they say he's guilty no policeman can ever be safe doing his job again . IF hes innocent the communists will use this opportunity to cause a massive riot and blame the blacks they win ether way .
anyone got a bookie taking bets on this case?
im sure some friendly Indians in SD would take the bets based as fuck most of them
I still would have prefered the police officer used a Jiu Jitsu arm lock instead. (Kimura)
See: Off-duty Swedish Police officers subdue a suspect.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izdfnHBMwSs
Imagine being such a white knight
Not being a white knight. Did you even watch the video? (My guess is a no)
In no way do I support George Floyd.
Don't accuse the left of avoiding facts if you do it yourself.
i did. joggers fighting is nothing new. why interrupt them>
I gave you an internet point
I would have preferred the drugs killed him before he pass the $20
Minneapolis is gonna burn regardless. They should cordon off the city limits and declare it a "purge movie" type event. At least then the average citizen has a chance to defend themselves against ANTIFA scum.
There is little left to burn...much of it was destroyed last summer
What’s the deal with that? I thought he was overcharged, but the judge is changing that? Is that typical?
Our justice system is so completely fucked that you have a good chance of winning that bet.
Black lies matter
The jogger, Jussie, and a few others seem like spaghetti fodder to see what sticks.
Only because he didn’t kill himself the same way in 2019.
I hope they burn the city to the ground.
Anyone still trying to run a business in that shithole is obviously fine with the way that city is run... so, let them reap.
An old high school friend of mine recently sold his pub there, and I know he worked his ass off to build that business and I'm sure he took a huge loss. I don't feel much sympathy for him though because he turned leftist and raised a whole family of leftist kids there. I have no doubt that he and his family voted for the Democrats allowing this shit to happen.
Yup
It's Chau time.
Fentafloyd died in the morning, before 9 o'clock (it was pronounced dead at the hospital around 9:30 AM).
The toxicology exam was taken about 12 hours after that.
Fentanyl's half-life is somewhere between 2 to 4 hours. Let's take 4 to be conservative.
At time of death the blood concentration was ~8x higher than the toxicology exam (3 half-lives).
At time of death, Fentafloyd had ~90 ng/mL of fentanyl in the blood.
That is about ~10 times the average amount to overdose and die. Of course Fentafloyd might have some resistance since that was not his first rodeo of swalling drugs when stopped by cops.
Edit: points 2-3 do not apply, as some of you pointed out. I'll keep it so people understand the context of the corrections.
One of the main issues is that we are allowing them to control the narrative. What if we insisted that the real narrative is actually that China has flooded the US with fentanyl to kills thousands of people like George Floyd and destroy our cities? The conversation would become very different. Why is it that we have a genuine public health crisis where people are actually dying in the streets yet we refuse to discuss it and our health departments ignore it?
This is what pisses me off the most. Sunday will mark 1 year since a lost a very close friend to fentanyl. Single mom working at a vet and going to school, left a 5 year old kid behind. She was an addict, but had been clean for a few years, made one decision to get fucked up and died over it.
The numbers are nothing short of jaw dropping and it is absolutely a serious public health crisis yet all we get are crickets. However, someone might catch a new flu and it is wall to wall mass hysteria. We live in very strange times. Sorry for your loss.
Agreed.. same here
I've seen a lot of drug abuse over the years through family, friends, and through my industry. I struggled with alcohol for a few years after I left the millitary, if you need someone to talk to any time pm me and you can grab my number.
Asymmetrical chemical warfare.
Damn. I’m sorry to hear that.
CDC blocked this narrative when they blamed the opioid epidemic on prescription narcotics vs illicit narcotics - double counting overdoses, adding any death as OD with opioids in system and not directing further testing protocols for morgues (Remind you of anything?). Yes, OxyContin was the tip of the spear, but it’s been 10-15 years since that was “the” issue. Diversion is one thing and pill mills are pretty much shut down, but those pale in comparison to the amount of synthetic analogs flooding dope markets since about 2010.
Looking at his tox tells me he got a few pressed fake Oxys (or bad Molly) from a cartel downstream which are basically drug cocktails at this point. There are usually a few in the bag of 1000 meant to kill, while the rest are pressed out with meth, fent, coke and a few other oddities like horse tranquilizers, for fill etc. Fun stuff.
Oh that's so cute, you still think the government cares. No, they want they dead. They won't be happy until you're in the ground. So of course they don't talk the real problems facing americans, because to them you're scum and they wish you'd hurry up and off yourself
Could not agree more. We’re letting tens of thousands of our neighbors die each year in absolute misery and solitude. We need to change the narrative. Floyd deserves our sympathy and prayers as a victim of a totally different systemic problem. The media is poison.
Doesn't the "half life" refer to the metabolic rate of consumption?
So once his metabolism stops at death the amount in his system stays the same (or at least none is metabolized by his body). I'm sure there's another pathway of decay that is slower and more based on tissue decomposition, but that's another story.
That is a genuine interesting thought. I guess I applied my physics sloppily. Considering the flow of blood stopped with the arrest of respiratory functions, it must have had an effect on the circulation and rates of depletion of those substances.
I'd wager you're correct, but I cannot tell what's the relation between those rates. I suppose the digestion goes on for hours, but maybe it is not absorbed into the bloodstream and the report gives a fairer idea of the amount in the bloodstream, maybe it underestimates the amount not absorbed in the intestines. Also there would likely be an excess of products of the reaction in other tissues.
I guess my math would only work if he hadn't died.
It's getting outside of my wheelhouse, as I'm not a doctor, but drugs don't have a 'half life", that I'm aware of - and if he was deceased, his body would have stopped processing it, in his bloodstream or his digestive system.
Having said that, 11 ng/ml is death for anyone. I recall reading an article that most fentanyl deaths occur between 11-14 ng/ml. And, Floyd was not in good health to begin with. He was a long time drug abuser with heart problems, who was also smoking cigarettes (or smoking pot via blunts.) (he tested positive for both).
Not necessarily. Chemicals can still be absorbed into the tissue and taken out of the blood stream. Look into succinylcholine. It's a popular way to kill people via OD, because it burns through the blood stream so fast, it can be hard to pick up during an autopsy.
Source : I watch too much forensic files. Lol
I've seen that episode at least twice! Excellent reference on decay.
There's multiple episodes where it's used, or they at least talk about it. See previous source. Lol
Are you saying he was going to die that day no matter what?
Also, why would an experienced junkie like Floyd take such a lethal dose? Did he know he was taking that much or did someone slip him a Mickie. I'd like to know the answer to that one.
There's been some previous (one at least) interaction between Floyd and the police where he swallowed the drugs so that the cops wouldn't find it.
If the seal is good you shit it out later no problem. My guess is this time the seal wasn't good and he drug got absorbed into his system.
I didn't know about the previous incident. That's a very plausible guess.
He was hoping for a repeat of his OD arrest from 2017.
After he was hospitalized for eating all his drugs, they declined to press charges.
It's a crime to have these drugs, but totally legal to get so high the cops have to rush you too the hospital instead of jail.
I can buy that one. Didn't know that history.
Floyd was an A1 piece of shit, but he didn't deserve to be killed by police.
However, since he took enough drugs to kill a horse in order to avoid prosecution, the police didn't kill him.
Yep, died of COVID. He was too beautiful for the world.
George got killed twice by China
And if the court rules that way, as they should, then all of the people pushing the BLM narrative all look like even bigger idiots, which will trigger even more rage.
This doesn't appear that it'll be a long trial, so let's expect some serious unrest coming to a Blue city in 3.....2.....1.......
This is why you don't appease extortionists.
Looks like he swallowed his stash.
Most likely his 2 "friends" were people he was meeting to sell fent or meth too. Cops pulled up he swallowed teh stash like he did in 2019.
Who else rolls around with shit load of drugs on them and meets randos in front of a convivence store, then just sits around after passing a fake 20 waiting for the cops to come? Put 2 and 2 together and it has all the hallmarks of a drug deal gone bad where he had to swallow his stash or wind up back in the big house.
That day? No. He had fairly serious heart issues and was a regular drug abuser, so he was burning his wick out pretty efficiently. But once he swallowed the evidence, he was headed for death pretty efficiently.
He didn't take that dosage to get high. He ate his stash, or part of it, so the cops wouldn't find it.
That seems to be the consensus. I think this site and its predecessor was more on top of the story than the places I was last June. I hadn't made that connection.
In this case half life is in reference to a living human breaking down or excreting the substance in question. When you die your body stops breaking it down. This guy was a hardcore user and had a lot of resistance it seems.
it takes only 1 ng of fentanyl to kill someone
norfentanyl is what you get when your body has already processed fentanyl
he had 16 times the lethal dosage of fentanyl in his body and was already 5.6 times dead when he expired
that's BEFORE the other shit he had in him as well :P
dude the human body is incredible when it comes to substance tolerances.
it works until it doesn't work
It keeps on multiplying receptors (part of a cell that substance acts on to spark an action)
Brain constantly works to discourage use by making the thing stop working in current dose
Yet at the same time reward system makes human crave it relentlessly
Substance abuse is a vicious, hellish cycle
Facts don't matter, bruh. Black criminal dies, regardless of how, and the black supremacist groups, along with their handlers, burn the country down "in protest." Just how deep into third-world lunacy is our country going to get?
Well yes and no
Amphetamine, to which methamphetamine is metabolized after use to some extent, also happens to act upon opioid receptors in few areas and generally can, paradoxically, add to respiratory depression
Report also states that he smoked (cotinine is a metabolite of nicotine). Amphetamines make you crave that smoke BIGLY and he probably was chain smoking hard.
Combine it with temporarily (also, dose dependent) heightened lung capacity (due to adrenergic activity) all pumped with cigarette smoke, which then was afterwards taxed with huge opioid overdose
It all was a fucking perfect storm honestly
That was a great synopsis. Without doxxing yourself would mind telling me what you do for a living?
Blue collar, I did many, many various things.
Chemistry and pharmacology was always my hobby.
I was always a brainy kid but unfortunately life paths are complex. I sometimes kinda regret I didn't pursue more "scientific" paths but blue collar jobs are also nice. Machining in particular
Love me some engineering also
"Overdose results in respiratory depression which is reversible with naloxone. Sudden death can also occur because of cardiac arrest or severe anaphylactic reaction. The estimated lethal dose of fentanyl in humans is 2 mg. The recommended serum concentration for analgesia is 1–2 ng/ml and for anaesthesia it is 10–20 ng/ml"
https://www.emcdda.europa.eu/publications/drug-profiles/fentanyl_en
he was analgeezing out of his fucking mind
Not true at all. My mom was getting fentanyl when she was dying of cancer, I believe it was more than 1 ng/ml an hour via a patch. From what I dimly remember learning about fentanyl (to distract myself from watching my mom die in slow motion) is that the patches released the fentanyl to I think 3-4 ng/ml levels.
His blood test indicated 11 ng/ml.
yes, very true
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6609322/
what, you thought i didn't have sources :P
Floyd's COUNTERFEIT MONEY is part of what is being hidden here.
We are at war and destroying the enemy's currency (destroying cash) in every way possible is key.
Needlessly print more money, real and counterfeit... destroy a country twice as quickly.
Floyd was fucking twisted as a motha. Meth Fentanyl Cigarettes Coffee and weed, all at once. That's like a fulltime job, condidering how high his baseline must be for him to not already be dead before he tried to buy cigs with fake money
Word is that Floyd admitted to "plugging" all of those things you list for a quicker/better high.
don't forget the morphine on the last line.....
Someone else said that's when you process the fentanyl it shows as morphine in the piss, but I'm not positive
he was dead that day- no matter what he did.
x2
Floyd didn't print those bills himself and street hustlers don't go out in a $25,000 gold coffin.
More is going on here than "being an idiot", I would look at Soros orchestrating it.
What does it mean to be covered in gold? Kobe was.
Youre not wrong.
Sir, this is Clown World.
https://www.hennepin.us/-/media/hennepinus/residents/public-safety/documents/floyd-autopsy-6-3-20.pdf
Thank you, I've been looking for this for a while.
sauce appreciated fren
https://www.hennepin.us/-/media/hennepinus/residents/public-safety/documents/floyd-autopsy-6-3-20.pdf
HAHAHA
FUCKING EPIC
it’s like none of these TV assholes have ever faced a dangerous criminal before and don’t understand how arrests actually go down.
FUCKBAG tried to swallow his drugs and OD’d - anyone who has dealt with druggies could tell that shot as soon as the video came out
Dude was more loaded up than a cargo van in Brownsville transporting illegals.
Or a SUV in Cali
Media, politicians, activist, celebrities all pushed this supposed idea that an innocent victim was killed by the police. Those who perpetrated this fraud should get prison.
I'm surprised they are not blaming Trump
They are not?
COVID 19 death.
Bring back natural selection
trust the science....
Exactly. Trust the science goy!
https://i.maga.host/1IGarWe.png
Where's the rest of the report? I don't want to get fake news'd on this.
https://www.hennepin.us/-/media/hennepinus/residents/public-safety/documents/floyd-autopsy-6-3-20.pdf
Wow. He was inches from a heart attack for a long time it looks like.
Sad that 95% of people will never know this.
never give up. keep pushing people here.
That Might be true if our judicial system wasn't corrupt.
They’ll convict....
According to this, he died of COVID.
I have doubts because the people on the Jury are scared for their lives because of Antifa and BLM. Fear is a motivator. I say it's 50/50 right now.
I'm just saying it looks like he died of COVID
Good thing the court room looks like a nation at war's border checkpoint... I can't wait to see these idiots kill eachother over a man who has bettered the world by swallowing his collection of drugs.
Need the comments referenced in the report for full information.
11 ng/Ml fentanyl is a death sentence for anyone. And there was more than that in his system. I don't even know if Narcan would have helped.
Not only that but he followed procedure to the letter. You cannot say that he acted with malice or without regard to his training.
Good thing there was no occult trauma.
I hope they all get very, very rich.
COMING THIS SUMMER! TO A DEMOCRATIC CITY NEAR YOU! THE SUMMER OF LOVE PART II
He's still going to get charged though.
Democrat and Muslim D.A. Keith Ellison withheld this information to make things worse.
My only worry is that they might get him on not calling the ambulance soon enough.
I'm not sure on that timeline...
What’s a lethal dose of fentanyl?
https://patriots.win/p/12hkmWHLQQ/x/c/4DyMa36S04P
so the blood collected antemortem, does that mean it was collected while he was still alive at 9PM on 05.25?
Isn’t that enough fentanyl to kill a cow?
doubt ful laws don’t matter
No, he WOULD walk if he got a fair trial, but the jury selection shows one thing. The only people they are gonna get are those willing to lie about their biases, who will pretend they have never heard of Henry Floyd just so they can be on the jury and write a book.
Didn't they say they wouldn't allow any autopsy report that didn't claim he died from a knee on the neck? 🤔
And notice the antemortem blood sample. He was alive when he got to the hospital. He did not die on the street.
5 funerals and a gold coffin for a drug addled black man.👌🏿
If I were an insurance company I would begin to drop all coverage in that area.