The worship of the state is the worship of force. There is no more dangerous menace to civilization than a government of incompetent, corrupt, or vile men. The worst evils which mankind ever had to endure were inflicted by bad governments. The state can be and has often been in the course of history the main source of mischief and disaster.
The worst evils which mankind ever had to endure were inflicted by bad governments.
Is Islam somehow a government? Are the communists that infiltrated, subverted and took over governments and societies, somehow governments? And how does one defend against an external, foreign military force, whether that is organized by a government or not?
As I have written previously: Instead of completely giving up on the concept of government and letting only leftists control and use government for their purpose, would it not be much better for the people of the USA to take back their government, clean it up and reform it, and deal with the groups that infiltrated, subverted and took over the government of the USA? You, the shill, who have previously argued for no government (such as here https://patriots.win/p/12hRj4ORRX/x/c/4Dx5uPLB4Fg , https://archive.li/gyDmi ), while never once even attempted to meaningfully argue for it, including how a nation and country is supposed to defend itself effectively and with some hope of survival against foreign and external threats, both direct (like military force) and indirect threats (like mass immigration of people that are much less than the best of their origin and directly hostile to the given country and its ways and people). And who also compared the USA to Islam: https://patriots.win/p/12hkhqmyBu/x/c/4DyMGuz1z69 , https://archive.li/Lw6Iy , despite how extremely enslaving (completely overshadowing the slavery period of the USA) and genocidal (including in modern times, see for instance https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1971_Bangladesh_genocide ) Islam was and is. And you have also multiple times in the past promoted Murray N. Rothbard ( see for instance https://archive.li/8Pzqv ), despite you yourself acknowledging that Murray N. Rothbard promoted the trading and seeming enslavement of children (see for instance https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murray_Rothbard#Children's_rights_and_parental_obligations ). (was Murray N. Rothbard against government because some governments punish child rape and child slavery?).
Islam is a government. Pretending it is just a religion is a lie. It is a system designed to control every aspect of life. And it has world domination as a goal.
Communism is an economic system that requires government to implement. It also has world domination as a stated goal.
Government is evil, but a necessary evil. Anarchists live in fantasy.
Islam is a government. Pretending it is just a religion is a lie. It is a system designed to control every aspect of life. And it has world domination as a goal.
I would agree that it is markedly different fundamentally from a number of other religions, likely more than as such, but there have been and are different Islamic governments and states, so calling Islam itself a government... what then to call Islam beyond just a religion I do not know.
Islam is a system designed to control every aspect of life. That includes politics and government. That it has been implemented differently doesn't make this less true.
The daesh caliphate followed Islamic writings to a T. The previous caliphate lasted until WWI. Continued unbroken from the founding of Islam afaik. Almost 1300 years!
And so you, the shill, yet again lie, deceive, manipulate, distract, evade, etc. etc. etc. to the extreme. You come with quotations and meaningless rhetoric that you do not believe in yourself at all, and you are well aware of that.
The worst evils which mankind ever had to endure were inflicted by bad governments.
Is Islam somehow a government? Are the communists that infiltrated, subverted and took over governments and societies, somehow governments? And how does one defend against an external, foreign military force, whether that is organized by a government or not?
As I have written previously: Instead of completely giving up on the concept of government and letting only leftists control and use government for their purpose, would it not be much better for the people of the USA to take back their government, clean it up and reform it, and deal with the groups that infiltrated, subverted and took over the government of the USA? You, the shill, who have previously argued for no government (such as here https://patriots.win/p/12hRj4ORRX/x/c/4Dx5uPLB4Fg , https://archive.li/gyDmi ), while never once even attempted to meaningfully argue for it, including how a nation and country is supposed to defend itself effectively and with some hope of survival against foreign and external threats, both direct (like military force) and indirect threats (like mass immigration of people that are much less than the best of their origin and directly hostile to the given country and its ways and people). And who also compared the USA to Islam: https://patriots.win/p/12hkhqmyBu/x/c/4DyMGuz1z69 , https://archive.li/Lw6Iy , despite how extremely enslaving (completely overshadowing the slavery period of the USA) and genocidal (including in modern times, see for instance https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1971_Bangladesh_genocide ) Islam was and is. And you have also multiple times in the past promoted Murray N. Rothbard ( see for instance https://archive.li/8Pzqv ), despite you yourself acknowledging that Murray N. Rothbard promoted the trading and seeming enslavement of children (see for instance https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murray_Rothbard#Children's_rights_and_parental_obligations ). (was Murray N. Rothbard against government because some governments punish child rape and child slavery?).
Is Islam somehow a government? Are the communists that infiltrated, subverted and took over governments and societies, somehow governments? And how does one defend against an external, foreign military force, whether that is organized by a government or not?
As I have written previously: Instead of completely giving up on the concept of government and letting only leftists control and use government for their purpose, would it not be much better for the people of the USA to take back their government, clean it up and reform it, and deal with the groups that infiltrated, subverted and took over the government of the USA? You, the shill, who have previously argued for no government (such as here https://patriots.win/p/12hRj4ORRX/x/c/4Dx5uPLB4Fg , https://archive.li/gyDmi ), while never once even attempted to meaningfully argue for it, including how a nation and country is supposed to defend itself effectively and with some hope of survival against foreign and external threats, both direct (like military force) and indirect threats (like mass immigration of people that are much less than the best of their origin and directly hostile to the given country and its ways and people). And who also compared the USA to Islam: https://patriots.win/p/12hkhqmyBu/x/c/4DyMGuz1z69 , https://archive.li/Lw6Iy , despite how extremely enslaving (completely overshadowing the slavery period of the USA) and genocidal (including in modern times, see for instance https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1971_Bangladesh_genocide ) Islam was and is. And you have also multiple times in the past promoted Murray N. Rothbard ( see for instance https://archive.li/8Pzqv ), despite you yourself acknowledging that Murray N. Rothbard promoted the trading and seeming enslavement of children (see for instance https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murray_Rothbard#Children's_rights_and_parental_obligations ). (was Murray N. Rothbard against government because some governments punish child rape and child slavery?).
Islam is a government. Pretending it is just a religion is a lie. It is a system designed to control every aspect of life. And it has world domination as a goal.
Communism is an economic system that requires government to implement. It also has world domination as a stated goal.
Government is evil, but a necessary evil. Anarchists live in fantasy.
I would agree that it is markedly different fundamentally from a number of other religions, likely more than as such, but there have been and are different Islamic governments and states, so calling Islam itself a government... what then to call Islam beyond just a religion I do not know.
Islam is a system designed to control every aspect of life. That includes politics and government. That it has been implemented differently doesn't make this less true.
The daesh caliphate followed Islamic writings to a T. The previous caliphate lasted until WWI. Continued unbroken from the founding of Islam afaik. Almost 1300 years!
Don't take this lightly ...
Governments convince their agents that violence is acceptable to enforce the mandates of the government.
Islam convinces its followers that violence is acceptable to enforce the mandates of the religion.
Yes, and government is effectively a religion.
Yes any power over you is as a result of the legitimacy we assign to government aggression.
https://mises.org/library/myth-national-defense-essays-theory-and-history-security-production
What specific form and role of government do you find to be necessary and legitimate and why?
What moral authority do you have to use violence to coerce my behavior or direct others to do so?
And so you, the shill, yet again lie, deceive, manipulate, distract, evade, etc. etc. etc. to the extreme. You come with quotations and meaningless rhetoric that you do not believe in yourself at all, and you are well aware of that.
Again, given that you aren't even attempting to answering my comment meaningfully in any way (which you are fully aware of) (from https://communities.win/p/12hkmWIAZc/x/c/4DyMa7gJ9We ):
Is Islam somehow a government? Are the communists that infiltrated, subverted and took over governments and societies, somehow governments? And how does one defend against an external, foreign military force, whether that is organized by a government or not?
As I have written previously: Instead of completely giving up on the concept of government and letting only leftists control and use government for their purpose, would it not be much better for the people of the USA to take back their government, clean it up and reform it, and deal with the groups that infiltrated, subverted and took over the government of the USA? You, the shill, who have previously argued for no government (such as here https://patriots.win/p/12hRj4ORRX/x/c/4Dx5uPLB4Fg , https://archive.li/gyDmi ), while never once even attempted to meaningfully argue for it, including how a nation and country is supposed to defend itself effectively and with some hope of survival against foreign and external threats, both direct (like military force) and indirect threats (like mass immigration of people that are much less than the best of their origin and directly hostile to the given country and its ways and people). And who also compared the USA to Islam: https://patriots.win/p/12hkhqmyBu/x/c/4DyMGuz1z69 , https://archive.li/Lw6Iy , despite how extremely enslaving (completely overshadowing the slavery period of the USA) and genocidal (including in modern times, see for instance https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1971_Bangladesh_genocide ) Islam was and is. And you have also multiple times in the past promoted Murray N. Rothbard ( see for instance https://archive.li/8Pzqv ), despite you yourself acknowledging that Murray N. Rothbard promoted the trading and seeming enslavement of children (see for instance https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murray_Rothbard#Children's_rights_and_parental_obligations ). (was Murray N. Rothbard against government because some governments punish child rape and child slavery?).
They were quoting you, and then answering your questions. And you gnash back and immediately accuse them of being disingenuous.
You didn't even answer his questions in return.
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