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KYMAGApatriot1 [S] 3 points ago +4 / -1

I would have also cried if there had been video of Floyd holding a weapon on a pregnant woman. Can you imagine her fear?

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Choad 3 points ago +3 / -0

Absolutely. Can you now see the real problem at hand? Police strap on body armor daily not knowing what is ahead, they know men like this are dangerous as hell but they have a job to do and when they do it some dumb ass "APPOINTED" judge turns the Floyds of the community loose to offend again. The issue is judges. They don't even have to have any prior training they are either elected or appointed. Have you ever wondered why that is?

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KYMAGApatriot1 [S] 3 points ago +3 / -0

I totally agree. Releasing murderers early makes my blood boil. I don’t know how many times people like this reoffend when out. Whether it’s rape, murder or whatever, there are citizens who will be victims because of some stupid judge. If judges were held accountable and could be sued by these victim, the picture would change drastically.

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Choad 2 points ago +2 / -0

Chauvin was put in a shitty situation. Adrenaline was high self preservation instincts kick in and all that, but in the end he mad a bad decision the question is physiologically did he have ample time to come down off the rush and think clearly, no I think not but that can't be proven, Hopefully if he is found guilty of anything it will be involuntary manslaughter. It pisses me off to high heaven that our officers are ever put in these situations. The judge that let Floyd walk after so many priors should be sitting on trial right next to Chauvin on much heftier charges. Ultimately Floyd is really responsible for all of it. He was the one using counterfeit money and allegedly selling drugs after being a felon already he knew the consequences of his actions. You and I know we can't blame the criminals though that is not politically leftist correct.

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War_Hamster 3 points ago +3 / -0

Are you aware that the knee to the neck is part of many police departments' training, including Minneapolis?

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scrobin 2 points ago +2 / -0

Not after they stop breathing.

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War_Hamster 2 points ago +2 / -0

My understanding is that's not what happened.

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scrobin 2 points ago +2 / -0

I don't even think it's involuntary manslaughter, the autopsy was VERY clear as to how he died, and that he didn't suffer any injuries to his person as a result of his arrest. As for adrenaline, no, spikes of adrenaline occur when you're in danger, or something unexpected happens, he was surrounded by 3 police officers, and Floyd was handcuffed, what he experienced wouldn't have been adrenaline. His heart might have been pumping faster, but that's about it, similar to sex, or jogging. My point is adrenaline is something very specific. And not something that is going to be secreted for a full 8 minutes, and during those circumstances. As he was arresting him, when you don't know if he has a gun, certainly though.

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Choad 1 point ago +1 / -0

I was referring to Chauvins adrenaline level. Physiologically he would likely have been highly pumped up naturally and rightfully so, I don't think there is a human alive that can just turn that instinct completely off. I am saying it is a justified defense for Chauvin because a stupid ass judge let a dangerous criminal out on the street and Chauvin was put in a position to battle a man twice his size not by his own choice but by Floyd's. Manslaughter at the greatest, if that . Excessive force reprimand definitely, at least. I feel like shit that Chauvin was put in this position. I feel like shit that Floyd let his life's decisions get that bad but ultimately I blame the judges/ lawyers and the revenuer system the most for perpetuation of this system for profit. .Sadducees and pharisees.

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scrobin 2 points ago +2 / -0

Yeah, as I said, Adrenaline is not something that occurs when you have full autonomy and control over the situation. If your argument is, that is a good legal defense, I've just shattered it. Secondly, he's not twice his size or weight, not even close, he does weighh more, but when he's cuffed, and surrounded by 3 other officers, who didn't feel the need to help in restraining him at that point, really not that relevant...Goodluck saying that in court by the way, that he's twice his weight, the Judge would tell the jury to discount that, and it would be stricken. On another note, there are studies that show sociopath's and psychopath's show very sound judgment and don't panic when in dangerous situations.

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/the-pros-to-being-a-psychopath-96723962/