Yeah, as I said, Adrenaline is not something that occurs when you have full autonomy and control over the situation. If your argument is, that is a good legal defense, I've just shattered it. Secondly, he's not twice his size or weight, not even close, he does weighh more, but when he's cuffed, and surrounded by 3 other officers, who didn't feel the need to help in restraining him at that point, really not that relevant...Goodluck saying that in court by the way, that he's twice his weight, the Judge would tell the jury to discount that, and it would be stricken. On another note, there are studies that show sociopath's and psychopath's show very sound judgment and don't panic when in dangerous situations.
I think we are seeing the same thing in two different lights and describing the same thing in two separate ways. I firmly do believe that anyone in that situation , both sides, offense and defense would have experienced as surge of adrenaline and the only point I am making in regards to the adrenaline is different people come down off different highs in different ways. I simply stand firm that Chauvin could have had a surge of adrenaline put him on a high that took him a while to come down off. I have been in physical altercations on several occasions hand to hand full on combat(not war time) I have been jumped by multiple people. I have had police tackle me. I have been a bouncer in a bar for nearly 7 years in the past and still no matter how experienced you are in combat adrenaline does it's own thing it is involuntary and no science paper is going to tell me their study trumps my life experience. I am not going to debate what was in his mind and what he was thinking I am just stating the obvious. Some people get pushed to a point through no fault of their own with adrenaline that they have blackouts and beat the crap out of people and don't even remember what happened. With Chauvin trying to do his job and look over his shoulder the whole time due to outside forces gathering , you never know where the next attack could be coming from he could have had that level of adrenaline rush.
Adrenaline is a defense mechanism, it's something that occurs when you're in danger, or when you experience something really quite unexpected. it's also something that changes with the amount of danger present. The more danger possible, the more adrenaline will be released. People that have PTSD, have a lower threshold as to the release of Adrenaline, so it can be trained to have conscious control over it, to an extent, possibly to a large extent. The point of Adrenaline, is to basically increase your reflexes, making your reactionary time faster, kind of like slowing time down, and also to increase your pain threshold. There was no threat to this officer at this time, the Adrenaline he most likely would have experienced when making the arrest, when there was a danger posed, would have depleted by the time he was on his neck, at least 10 minutes after the fact. And again, he was handcuffed, leaning on his neck and back, so you saying you don't know where the next attack is going to come from, is really quite nonsense. That being said, this event was PRE FLOYD, if this happened today, with black bystanders, I would agree that there would be an increased danger posed to the officers... I'm curious, if you take Adrenaline out of your defense, what is your argument exactly, besides blaming the system?
You really believe there was not threat at that point? You honestly really truly believe that or you just saying that to keep this conversation alive? I don't you or your real world experiences but I can tell you first hand when the crowd started to gather like that and the verbal confrontations escalate there is definitely a threat and even if not it can still be perceived as a threat. He could have possibly still been hopped up on adrenaline and coming down after leaving he scene even.
Just so we're clear, your argument is now, that he felt Adrenaline because of the crowd and not Floyd? I'll have to look again, but I don't remember there being that many people there. I won't go in to detail about my relevant with Adrenaline, because it's not relevant, but it's considerably more extensive than what you have stated.
Yeah, as I said, Adrenaline is not something that occurs when you have full autonomy and control over the situation. If your argument is, that is a good legal defense, I've just shattered it. Secondly, he's not twice his size or weight, not even close, he does weighh more, but when he's cuffed, and surrounded by 3 other officers, who didn't feel the need to help in restraining him at that point, really not that relevant...Goodluck saying that in court by the way, that he's twice his weight, the Judge would tell the jury to discount that, and it would be stricken. On another note, there are studies that show sociopath's and psychopath's show very sound judgment and don't panic when in dangerous situations.
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/the-pros-to-being-a-psychopath-96723962/
I think we are seeing the same thing in two different lights and describing the same thing in two separate ways. I firmly do believe that anyone in that situation , both sides, offense and defense would have experienced as surge of adrenaline and the only point I am making in regards to the adrenaline is different people come down off different highs in different ways. I simply stand firm that Chauvin could have had a surge of adrenaline put him on a high that took him a while to come down off. I have been in physical altercations on several occasions hand to hand full on combat(not war time) I have been jumped by multiple people. I have had police tackle me. I have been a bouncer in a bar for nearly 7 years in the past and still no matter how experienced you are in combat adrenaline does it's own thing it is involuntary and no science paper is going to tell me their study trumps my life experience. I am not going to debate what was in his mind and what he was thinking I am just stating the obvious. Some people get pushed to a point through no fault of their own with adrenaline that they have blackouts and beat the crap out of people and don't even remember what happened. With Chauvin trying to do his job and look over his shoulder the whole time due to outside forces gathering , you never know where the next attack could be coming from he could have had that level of adrenaline rush.
Adrenaline is a defense mechanism, it's something that occurs when you're in danger, or when you experience something really quite unexpected. it's also something that changes with the amount of danger present. The more danger possible, the more adrenaline will be released. People that have PTSD, have a lower threshold as to the release of Adrenaline, so it can be trained to have conscious control over it, to an extent, possibly to a large extent. The point of Adrenaline, is to basically increase your reflexes, making your reactionary time faster, kind of like slowing time down, and also to increase your pain threshold. There was no threat to this officer at this time, the Adrenaline he most likely would have experienced when making the arrest, when there was a danger posed, would have depleted by the time he was on his neck, at least 10 minutes after the fact. And again, he was handcuffed, leaning on his neck and back, so you saying you don't know where the next attack is going to come from, is really quite nonsense. That being said, this event was PRE FLOYD, if this happened today, with black bystanders, I would agree that there would be an increased danger posed to the officers... I'm curious, if you take Adrenaline out of your defense, what is your argument exactly, besides blaming the system?
You really believe there was not threat at that point? You honestly really truly believe that or you just saying that to keep this conversation alive? I don't you or your real world experiences but I can tell you first hand when the crowd started to gather like that and the verbal confrontations escalate there is definitely a threat and even if not it can still be perceived as a threat. He could have possibly still been hopped up on adrenaline and coming down after leaving he scene even.
Just so we're clear, your argument is now, that he felt Adrenaline because of the crowd and not Floyd? I'll have to look again, but I don't remember there being that many people there. I won't go in to detail about my relevant with Adrenaline, because it's not relevant, but it's considerably more extensive than what you have stated.
Answer me this, have you honestly ever been in a combat situation? Have you been in a situation where even the perceived threat is life or death?
Yes...