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TakenusernameA 31 points ago +31 / -0

Technically a woman is someone without a y chromosome who can reproduce. A man is someone with a y chromosome who can reproduce. That removes the loophole of hermaphrodites, who cannot reproduce.

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mct1 6 points ago +6 / -0

The 'loophole' of the hermaphrodite is not a loophole at all. They simply have a birth defect. Their gender is still a matter of their chromosomes.

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TakenusernameA 1 point ago +2 / -1

Some are born looking identical to members of the opposite sex inside and out, but incapable of procreation. In that case I would argue their gender is determined by their organs and not their chromosomes.

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Stickybedel 5 points ago +5 / -0

Although minor (relatively), there is one caveat.

Sterile or very troubled conceptions and/or reproduction.

You can have the correct chromosomes, have the correct parts, and the lack of incorrect parts, but still not be considered a "woman" or "man". Maybe the desire to naturally reproduce could substitute for "can reproduce". This will allow inclusion of sterile mating pairs (where one - or both normally healthy individuals - have extreme difficulty in reproduction naturally, or NO ability.)

Thoughts?

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80960KA 15 points ago +15 / -0

Everyone overthinks all this bullshit and it's nonsensical.

Boys have a penis, girls have a vagina.

Natural edge cases are considered individually, but a mutilated natural man is still a man.

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Dieselslacker 3 points ago +3 / -0

I was looking at genetics and possible defects other than Downs syndrome, and there's a bunch of weird combinations, rare but possible. There's xxy, xxx, xyy and other mutations.

Interesting reading

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duckduck 5 points ago +5 / -0

None of them are capable of reproducing, meaning they are genetic disorders.

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MapleBaconWaffles 1 point ago +1 / -0

XYY can reproduce. Not sure about others.

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TakenusernameA 1 point ago +1 / -0

Theres also pure x chromosome and XY females and XX males. Those arent genders but are arguabley genderless due to their inability to procreate.