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QueensOwn 8 points ago +8 / -0

I worked in Banking for 30 years as an Auditor. I supervised cash and security counts. Now take a look at the top picture. There are several things wrong with the picture.

1- Liquids (water) are not permitted. Spilled water or fluids can damage whatever you are working on. That’s clearly a straw so, what else can it be? Water breaks are given when needed outside the “secured” location.

2- I have no idea what the multiple green labeled cans are. Too much clutter. Work space should be clear so assigned “observers” can see exactly what the person is working on.

3- The work stations are also too close together. Again whatever you are “handling” must be observable whether it’s cash, securities or ballots.

4- The USPS mail trays should not be stacked in the work area. Again to assure clear observation and prevent mix-up or double count.

5- The one workers chair is turned sideways. Sounds petty but this is a work space counting completed ballots. Again get all the other crap off the desk. Eyes and chair forward so work can be observed.

Keep in mind these are problems from this picture we can see. I would have other questions.

1- I see no one strictly observing. Maybe we can’t see from this one picture but supervision, observation and finally verification are requirements.

2- In various other pictures I have seen people with pens/pencils. Persons counting have no need for pens and pencils. Anything that could be used to “mark” a ballot or “punch” a ballot should not be permitted. Counts should be performed of completed ballots by two people and confirmed by a third.

My point is the current ballot counting process appears to be an out of control mess. The process does not appear to address basic security concerns.

otistoole 3 points ago +3 / -0

Nigs. Nuff said

Heavy_Metal_Patriot 1 point ago +1 / -0

I worked in Banking for 30 years as an Auditor.

Excellent post. As an auditor, has there been any unique aspects of the various steal operations that you noticed, but wasn't talked about by most others here?

QueensOwn 2 points ago +2 / -0

I am not sure I can answer your question. One of the big problems is the counts are being performed by 50 states with 50 different sets of rules. So, when you say “unique” there are 50 uniques. We really have 50 elections at the same time. This was/is a recipe for disaster. Now throw in millions of manual ballots. These States clearly didn’t have a strong enough process to handle a “normal” mail in process. The real question is was this deliberate or just sheer incompetence?

The one thing most people did not talk about are the two ways to vote. Manual or in person. I have heard about “forensic” Audits of the electronic systems. Have these been performed? If not, why not? If so where are the results. A forensic IT Audit most certainly can be performed. Yet, I haven’t seen or heard of an independent third party review? Are they afraid of the results? We’ve seen people make statements but I haven’t seen an actual independent review.

Now as for manual ballots, no one ever answers the question what are the controls around getting the count from the “counters” to the tally. Robust controls must be in place to confirm that this batch of votes was x and y. At the end of the day, those counts get “recorded” somewhere. If you look at that picture, do you have confidence that the totals are being accurately counted and recorded?

Heavy_Metal_Patriot 2 points ago +2 / -0

If you look at that picture, do you have confidence that the totals are being accurately counted and recorded?