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Staatssicherheit 1 point ago +1 / -0

What was the 2010 per capita mortality? How about 2011-2020? The fact that whatever source you remember did not provide or comment on the per capita mortality of 2011-2019 should be a big red flag.

Heart disease and cancer kills a lot more people than any infectious disease can. If there is a lot of variance in these two factors, then it skews the data tremendously. I would be interested to see if the per capita deaths were stable from 2010-2020 or did it vary wildly.

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john1234 3 points ago +3 / -0

Here's the per capita all-cause-mortality in Sweden 1850-2020:

https://i.ylilauta.org/b/3/q/b3qjr.jpg

Never mind the language, it's the 2nd most common one in Sweden

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Staatssicherheit -2 points ago +1 / -3

Nice. Thanks. Modern pregnancy care. Vaccines. And antibiotics. The drop is pretty incredible.

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john1234 1 point ago +1 / -0

Although fridges, clean water pipes, sewage pipes, larger apartments have had a larger effect.

No matter how good the health care is, kids are just gonna die of diarrhea without those ones.

And yes, some vaccines work, the ones developed for slowly-mutating viruses. Influenza vaccines have never worked in the long run, they don't reduce all-cause-mortality, or even ILI-incidence.

** "Long-Term Correlation between Influenza Vaccination Coverage and Incidence of Influenza-Like Illness in 14 European Countries"**

https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0163508

"Based on this ecological study it is not possible to provide evidence for a negative correlation between influenza vaccination coverage and ILI incidence"

"Repeated influenza vaccination of healthy children and adults: borrow now, pay later?"

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2870374/

""an apparent negative effect of prior-season vaccination on current season VE estimates, and no evidence that vaccination prevented household transmission" of flu."

https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2014/11/study-adds-more-data-effects-consecutive-year-flu-shots

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4462665/pdf/jiu650.pdf

"We observed no differences in VE between vaccination in both seasons and the current season only "

https://bmcmedicine.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12916-018-1239-8

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3404712/pdf/cis307.pdf

"We randomized 115 children to trivalent inactivated influ-enza vaccine (TIV) or placebo. Over the following 9 months,TIV recipients had an increased risk of virologically-confirmed non-influenza infections (relative risk: 4.40; 95%confidence interval: 1.31-14.8). Being protected against influenza, TIV recipients may lack temporary non-specificimmunity that protected against other respiratory viruses."

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7004370/