IMO the reason the election lawsuits failed wasn't the courts, but because Trump hired backstabbing lawyers who filed junk suits intended to placate Trump but ultimately fail.
Patrick Byrne describes this in great detail. He said that Sydney, Lin, Rudy, Jenna were all a bunch of grifters there to string Trump along and not deliver on anything. His accounts from meetings in the Oval was that these lawyers ruined perfectly winnable lawsuits.
Your question is justified and shines light on a completely corrupted judiciary. It wouldn't have mattered who brought the facts to the case. Labeling those that fight for freedom "grifters" is no different than being a sympathizer to the leftists, IMHO. The judges feared retaliation from the globalist cabal and their ever reaching evils that would have erased their entire families from this earth (JFK anyone)... We are dealing with a deep rooted evil that will do anything for power. We either exercise the true meaning of "E pluribus unum", or we no longer exist as a free nation.
No...I just hate what QTARD grifters Sydney and Lin have done.
I don't like Patrick Byrne either, but he was the only other one in the Oval Office for that meeting and offered a different explanation from a different perspective as to why the lawsuits went down as they did.
I'm just offering a different viewpoint that could explain things, that's all.
Because the courts are only going to consider lawsuits regarding election lawsuits from parties that have incurred direct damages from potential voter fraud, and not random individuals.
The only groups that can legally sue are Donald J. Trump for President Inc. and Donald J. Trump et. al., as long as the Trump campaign or Trump himself file the suit, and other parties can file an amicus curiae in support of the suit. That means only the official campaign lawyers (Rudy, Jenna, and Sydney) that were working with the campaign or that people like Lin filed and Trump himself signed on to could sue.
I remember there were two suits in PA not by Trump and that Trump had no part in that got shot down - one was from Sean Parnell and one was from Mike Kelly. Those lawsuits got shot down since those parties had not incurred direct damages and had no legal basis to sue. Trump himself was not affiliated with either of those two, and so they were rendered null.
With that being said: let's look at some of the official suits that Trump campaign did file: I read through the official Trump campaign lawsuits and they were downright embarrassing to anyone with even a little bit of rudimentary legal knowledge. The Trump lawyers filed lawsuits, but they intentionally filed such legally dubious and shitty lawsuits in an attempt at self-sabotaging their efforts. One of the lawsuits misspelled words like "District" and "Georgia" and were riddled with grammatical mistakes a middle schooler would laugh at. Most of them tried arguing some sort of foreign interference angle or voter fraud angle when they SHOULD have been arguing instead from a Constitutionality angle that the laws were changed w/o the state legislatures and thus the electors were unconstitutionally slated. Any lawyer worth their salt knows that the Constitutionality and state legislature angle has a much easier path to victory and a lower burden of proof than a voter fraud or foreign interference angle (even if both of those happened, it is much easier to prove Constitutionality).
The lawyers (Rudy & Sydney) knew this, but intentionally chose the path that had a MUCH higher burden of proof (god knows why, but given that they've been practicing law for decades, one would think it's an effort to purposely tank the suits). Aside from that, they made outlandish claims and claimed to have all the proof in the world, but presented absolutely none in the lawsuits they filed. Rudy even filed a voter fraud case and then in the oral arguments in a lower court said specifically that "this is not a voter fraud case". Huh??
Don't get me wrong, the courts are compromised to SOME degree. But not this hopelessly compromised. Read the lawsuits yourself and you'll see why Trump lost -- it wasn't because all the courts are traitors, it's because his own legal team consisted of grifters and con artists that backstabbed and undermined him every step of the way.
I'll leave you with an analogy: what happened with the lawsuits was if Gordon Ramsay was tasked with preparing a dinner for someone and "accidentally" used sugar instead of salt for all his recipes. With the level of experience his lawyers had: the level of incompetence they displayed wasn't on accident....it was deliberate.
You are comparing apples to oranges. Many states brought election related suits forward. All were denied before facts ever got to be presented. THAT is the only thing that matter, they were dismissed on procedural grounds rather than facts. Each and every judge abdicated their duty. It has NOTHING to do with WHO brought the lawsuits, period.
It absolutely has everything to do with who brought the lawsuits. It's a jurisdictional and standing concern. A suit cannot be heard if either the court [A] doesn't have the jurisdiction to hear it (remember: we don't have federal elections -- we have 50 state elections on the same date.) or [B.] if the party doesn't have any standing to sue.
One state suing another in the context of election fraud makes no sense - Texas did not have any standing to sue Pennsylvania for how they slated their electors. It's a plenary power given to each state. They did not have standing to bring a suit period.
Only party that had standing to bring a suit against Pennsylvania was Donald J. Trump for President Inc. as he was the only one that had incurred damages.
There is legal precedent for this - Bush v. Gore. The two campaigns sued each other. The lawsuit in 2000 was not [Insert State Here] v. Florida, but rather Bush v. Gore as the individual campaigns had the standing to sue. The Texas v. PA lawsuit this time made zero sense.
And what I'm saying is that the lawsuits that were filed by the Trump campaign were severely lacking to the point of seeming like Trump's lawyers were trying to sabotage him.
The simple truth is that judges don't live in isolation and the establishment, both the left and the right, wanted Trump out.
The judges abdicated their responsibility and tore the country down because this country is ruled by a cabal of connected people (the swamp) and is not a government "of, by and for the people". In fact, it hasn't been for a long time and that's how they got away with it.
Yes. The courts were compromised too. I never said they weren’t.
I’m saying that on top of that, trumps own lawyers worked against him.
The lawsuits that Sydney and Rudy filed were an utter joke. Misspellings and grammatical mistakes up the wazoo.
Jenna Ellis was hopelessly compromised and/or naive. She talked Trump away from invoking the Insurrection Act, and when asked, didn’t even know the difference between IA and Martial Law.
Patrick Byrne is a nevertrumper faggot who didn't even vote for Trump. Why is he always shilled here? He was Sidney Powell's panic button to trash Trump when Trump rightfully told Powell to fuck off because she was offering false hope and false promises. Byrne is part of the same gang with Powell and Wood, aka grifters.
IMO the reason the election lawsuits failed wasn't the courts, but because Trump hired backstabbing lawyers who filed junk suits intended to placate Trump but ultimately fail.
Patrick Byrne describes this in great detail. He said that Sydney, Lin, Rudy, Jenna were all a bunch of grifters there to string Trump along and not deliver on anything. His accounts from meetings in the Oval was that these lawyers ruined perfectly winnable lawsuits.
What about the other 80 lawsuits rejected, that were not brought by RG or SP? I’ve asked this before on other posts, but you never answer.
Your question is justified and shines light on a completely corrupted judiciary. It wouldn't have mattered who brought the facts to the case. Labeling those that fight for freedom "grifters" is no different than being a sympathizer to the leftists, IMHO. The judges feared retaliation from the globalist cabal and their ever reaching evils that would have erased their entire families from this earth (JFK anyone)... We are dealing with a deep rooted evil that will do anything for power. We either exercise the true meaning of "E pluribus unum", or we no longer exist as a free nation.
u/giantrabbit1 is a faggot who shills for that Patrick Byrne liar who admitted that he DOES NOT LIKE TRUMP AND DID NOT VOTE FOR TRUMP
I’ve noticed
No...I just hate what QTARD grifters Sydney and Lin have done.
I don't like Patrick Byrne either, but he was the only other one in the Oval Office for that meeting and offered a different explanation from a different perspective as to why the lawsuits went down as they did.
I'm just offering a different viewpoint that could explain things, that's all.
SCROTUS rejected the Texas lawsuit. That had nothing to do with Linn or Sydney did it?
That you know of. Because Byrne told you.
I've yet to hear Trump confirm ANY of it.
Everything you accuse Powell and Wood of, Byrne is just as capable of being guilty of. He's a lawyer. He's a professional liar.
Now, I will admit I stopped paying attention to Wood early on. Something wasn't right with him.
Because the courts are only going to consider lawsuits regarding election lawsuits from parties that have incurred direct damages from potential voter fraud, and not random individuals.
The only groups that can legally sue are Donald J. Trump for President Inc. and Donald J. Trump et. al., as long as the Trump campaign or Trump himself file the suit, and other parties can file an amicus curiae in support of the suit. That means only the official campaign lawyers (Rudy, Jenna, and Sydney) that were working with the campaign or that people like Lin filed and Trump himself signed on to could sue.
I remember there were two suits in PA not by Trump and that Trump had no part in that got shot down - one was from Sean Parnell and one was from Mike Kelly. Those lawsuits got shot down since those parties had not incurred direct damages and had no legal basis to sue. Trump himself was not affiliated with either of those two, and so they were rendered null.
With that being said: let's look at some of the official suits that Trump campaign did file: I read through the official Trump campaign lawsuits and they were downright embarrassing to anyone with even a little bit of rudimentary legal knowledge. The Trump lawyers filed lawsuits, but they intentionally filed such legally dubious and shitty lawsuits in an attempt at self-sabotaging their efforts. One of the lawsuits misspelled words like "District" and "Georgia" and were riddled with grammatical mistakes a middle schooler would laugh at. Most of them tried arguing some sort of foreign interference angle or voter fraud angle when they SHOULD have been arguing instead from a Constitutionality angle that the laws were changed w/o the state legislatures and thus the electors were unconstitutionally slated. Any lawyer worth their salt knows that the Constitutionality and state legislature angle has a much easier path to victory and a lower burden of proof than a voter fraud or foreign interference angle (even if both of those happened, it is much easier to prove Constitutionality).
The lawyers (Rudy & Sydney) knew this, but intentionally chose the path that had a MUCH higher burden of proof (god knows why, but given that they've been practicing law for decades, one would think it's an effort to purposely tank the suits). Aside from that, they made outlandish claims and claimed to have all the proof in the world, but presented absolutely none in the lawsuits they filed. Rudy even filed a voter fraud case and then in the oral arguments in a lower court said specifically that "this is not a voter fraud case". Huh??
Don't get me wrong, the courts are compromised to SOME degree. But not this hopelessly compromised. Read the lawsuits yourself and you'll see why Trump lost -- it wasn't because all the courts are traitors, it's because his own legal team consisted of grifters and con artists that backstabbed and undermined him every step of the way.
I'll leave you with an analogy: what happened with the lawsuits was if Gordon Ramsay was tasked with preparing a dinner for someone and "accidentally" used sugar instead of salt for all his recipes. With the level of experience his lawyers had: the level of incompetence they displayed wasn't on accident....it was deliberate.
You are comparing apples to oranges. Many states brought election related suits forward. All were denied before facts ever got to be presented. THAT is the only thing that matter, they were dismissed on procedural grounds rather than facts. Each and every judge abdicated their duty. It has NOTHING to do with WHO brought the lawsuits, period.
You stated the main reason.
It absolutely has everything to do with who brought the lawsuits. It's a jurisdictional and standing concern. A suit cannot be heard if either the court [A] doesn't have the jurisdiction to hear it (remember: we don't have federal elections -- we have 50 state elections on the same date.) or [B.] if the party doesn't have any standing to sue.
One state suing another in the context of election fraud makes no sense - Texas did not have any standing to sue Pennsylvania for how they slated their electors. It's a plenary power given to each state. They did not have standing to bring a suit period.
Only party that had standing to bring a suit against Pennsylvania was Donald J. Trump for President Inc. as he was the only one that had incurred damages.
There is legal precedent for this - Bush v. Gore. The two campaigns sued each other. The lawsuit in 2000 was not [Insert State Here] v. Florida, but rather Bush v. Gore as the individual campaigns had the standing to sue. The Texas v. PA lawsuit this time made zero sense.
And what I'm saying is that the lawsuits that were filed by the Trump campaign were severely lacking to the point of seeming like Trump's lawyers were trying to sabotage him.
There's more wrong in this than right, but it's clear you're gonna dig a bunker on this hill, so I won't bother trying to refute any of it.
The simple truth is that judges don't live in isolation and the establishment, both the left and the right, wanted Trump out.
The judges abdicated their responsibility and tore the country down because this country is ruled by a cabal of connected people (the swamp) and is not a government "of, by and for the people". In fact, it hasn't been for a long time and that's how they got away with it.
Yes. The courts were compromised too. I never said they weren’t.
I’m saying that on top of that, trumps own lawyers worked against him.
The lawsuits that Sydney and Rudy filed were an utter joke. Misspellings and grammatical mistakes up the wazoo.
Jenna Ellis was hopelessly compromised and/or naive. She talked Trump away from invoking the Insurrection Act, and when asked, didn’t even know the difference between IA and Martial Law.
Patrick Byrne is a nevertrumper faggot who didn't even vote for Trump. Why is he always shilled here? He was Sidney Powell's panic button to trash Trump when Trump rightfully told Powell to fuck off because she was offering false hope and false promises. Byrne is part of the same gang with Powell and Wood, aka grifters.
I don't like him either, but he's the only one that was in the Oval for that meeting and offered a different perspective which seems to make sense.
Tried looking this up on YT but it's not readily apparent.
Wouldn't mind checking it out if you still have a link.
Patrick Byrne is a lying shill.