Reason Magazine is one of the reasons why People hate Libertarianism.
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Yeah, and you notice leftists go from hating capitalism to being "libertarian, free market" types when it suits them.
When facebook and youtube, and everywhere else censors conservatives, then "It's a private business, they can do what they want". Yeah unless a private business wants to not bake a cake because it goes against their religious beliefs.
All this is to say, when I was a libertarian in my early 20s (I'm 28 now) it wasn't nearly this cucked. I really think the libertarian movement has been hugely infiltrated by leftists.
I also think so. I left libertarianism in 2019.I noticed that It didn't offer any defense or push back against leftism and had so many grey areas to exploit.
I immediately start ripping on them for becoming radical libertarians
I heavily lean libertarian but I do not associate myself with the beltway libertarians who I consider to be frauds or useful idiots at best. That said the tech giants do not represent a free market and because of that I don't defend them. They have capitalized politically on government protections that they were never meant to have. The government has failed to correct this and so free market function is not in effect.
So here is the big reason why I consider beltway libertarians to be frauds. They vehemently demand open borders. This idea in a rainbow unicorn pony universe might sound good but it betrays the very idea of property rights and freedom to assert association.
And further (this is the most important part in my view) is that it actually wrecks the Libertarian Party. But before I explain that I have to explain this. DO NOT CONFUSE LIBERTY WITH LIBERTINE. If you don't don't understand the distinction you will fail to understand libertarian arguments in general. Go look up the word libertine. I'm not libertine, most libertarians I know are not libertine and are actually disgusted by libertines.
Just because some (if not most) libertarians oppose the war on drugs does not mean that they advocate drug use or think it is a good idea. If you think that is what they stand for, you don't understand the argument against the war on drugs. The people or libertarians who advocate for drug use are either piggyback riders or libertines.
Back to the point. What completely wrecks The Libertarian Party (proper) is the advocacy for open borders. I can guarantee you that if they dropped that retarded shit that they would almost overnight wreck the neocon republicans because on almost every other issue the libertarians are dead on target and have been for a very long time.
They beat everyone else to the punch bowl on economics, currency, Federal Reserve, wars, interventionism, you name it, a very long time ago. They have a long history of getting economic predictions completely correct.
So yeah the libertarians have a bit of an image problem but that was largely cultivated by the neocons who if you don't know by now, are actually the left. If you don't know that it is because you don't know actual political history from about the 1950's forward.
I can explain that if I have to but this is already too long.
I know the Neocons are Left. They are Trotskyites who focus on the idea of Permanent revolutions worldwide. The first Neocons like Bill Kristol's Dad and Goldberg were former Dems who were disillusioned with the Democrat party.
The Neocons also destroyed "conservatism" much further than expected. Conservatism by Buckley Largely killed "America First" and It became controlled opposition because it didn't allow any right-wing points more radical than what the establishment wanted. Libertarian Party and Libertarians are great on economic issues and it largely works in a stable environment but Liberitanism has little or no resistance against the current wave of Leftism which exploits the grey areas of Liberitanism. the current wave of Conservatises and MAGA influencers have become subverted by the Leftist Larpers pretending to be Libertarians.
Conservatives of the America First, White Nationalists, and Traditionalist mold and Libertarians would need to merge together to stop the Left. Right now, we need the strongest form of Nationalism/conservatism and Liberitanism to win against the Left.
We largely agree but I've done a shift on nationalism. To understand this you have to wrap your head around the arguments put forth by Brion McClanahan. I think most of us could appreciate his arguments and even side with them but it doesn't happen easily because we have been so fiercely burned by the Internationalists.
Here is a hint; Think locally, act locally.
I believe you're right that the Libertarian Party is mostly frauds, with some useful idiots mixed in.
Libertarian ideals are still solid though.
Implementing them in practice is hard, and it makes most "libertarian" movements so vulnerable to infiltration.
The good news is that sword cuts both ways: Leftist movements suffer from the same exact issues.
The bad news is that when Libertarian movements are coopted, they generally become anarchistic and / or ineffectual sideshows. When Leftist movements become coopted, they become brutal authoritarian regimes that loot the nation & starve its people!
On open borders- the issue is they get opened one way.
I seem to remember sometime around 2015 BT, that was more or less where the hard schism had started to form around the LP. The mainline "leadership" was full on open borders but a lot of the rank and file didn't seem to be on board. I may be remembering this wrong, but generally I think it started getting bad when leadership more or less started pushing for anti-open borders members to accept forced right of way because someone might want to hire them type of crap. Basically party leadership at the time was pushing for landowners at the southern border to just accept trespassing as a normal thing based on the possibility things will somehow magically work out to rainbows and unicorn farts.
Gary Johnson and his running mate didn't help things and the presidential candidate last year started off with some great arguments and then all of a sudden adopted SJW language. Not long after that point, a lot of us just stopped listening.
It really is amazing because the LP is such a natural fit in so many ways but somehow they keep getting sabotaged. Which considering the Republicans, shouldn't be much of a surprise I suppose.
Absolutely, and the mainstream media pumped him up in a way that I haven't quite figured out the reason, but after the 2016 election, I remember seeing a vijeo of him where he lost his shit about the legal term "Illegal Aliens" and thinking to myself, if I had seen that interview before the election I would have just said fuck this clown, I am voting for Trump. At the time I lived in upstate NY, and just figured voting LP made strategic sense at the time to try to get automatic ballot access. I wasn't thrilled with Johnson as the candidate, I thought McAfee would have been more fun, but why bother voting R back then?
This is the problem with libertarianism. It's all pie in the sky utopian dreams that would otherwise be great if humans weren't a bunch of self-interested fuckups.
C.J. Ciaramella is the Political Desk Editor at Reason Magazine, the Whistleblower's Brother.
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This post is retarded. We don't have "free markets." Lol.
If libertarians cant see the flaw in their ideology they are religious, not political, about their beliefs
I don’t care if Twitter bans viewpoints they don’t agree with. If they do then they aren’t a public service they are a publisher and should be liable for EVERYTHING that is PUBLISHED on their site.
The problem is that Twitter is a very large platform that receives some government money. They also control information that can easily be spread to people across the world; the big tech giants have gone beyond the management or regulation that the free market will handle.
I agree to an extent. If they were held liable and stripped of section 230 they become no different than Washington Post.
The problem is that they are flat out breaking rules and crooked politicians are covering for them.
If they were liable for what they are obviously publishing Twitter would fundamentally change overnight or be sued into the dirt. As it stands now they can’t be held liable when some jack ass calls Crowder a Nazi or Becky calls Suzy a slut.
I would say they are currently playing outside of the rules of the market and that is the reason it isn’t working.
I’m not saying they don’t need to be stopped I just don’t think it’s a market problem. It’s an enforcement problem.
There's a reason Libtard applies to Libertarians too.
Constitution protects our rights. The only power/authority the Government was meant to have was to protect those rights. I can't infringe on your rights and you can't infringe on mine.
Libertarians are just morons than don't understand the human condition and think everyone should be able to do everything they want... Including infringe on the rights of others...
What is it that they're labelling "attacking the free market"? Is it because of boycotts because that is the free market in action, in a commie society you don't have the luxury of choosing what goods you need to survive nevermind choosing to boycott as a form of protest.
They are corporate botlickers.
I fight for a free society, but we must also acknowledge that we don't live in a free society.