I saw this video and discussion last night on PT News Channel on YT. There were alot of mixed comments. How is Abbott going to lift the mask mandate statewide, but if a business like a bank wants to enforce masks, then law enforcement must comply and enforce this? Seems ridiculous.
Apparently there is a clause in the Abbott edict where businesses can keep mandates and the mask off is only for public spaces. This officer should have taken the woman outside and informed her of the particulars instead of trying to arrest her inside the bank.
Another example of Clown World IMO.
Optics didn't look very good when officer somewhat aggressively trying to arrest an older woman over a stupid mask.
Went out yesterday to celebrate the lifting of mask mandates. I only saw one young girl without one. I’m in north central Texas. Everyone wears them and many wear gloves too. And about a thousand Karens on our neighborhood site shaming those who want to take off masks. Shaming, using Christianity as their weapon. I just want to know where are all the true Texans? It feels more like Commifornia here now.
Texan here, too. There is hope. Stopped into a Race Trac gas station in Terrell yesterday, and most people going in were not wearing masks. I’d say it was a 60/40 split.
You gotta get away from the cities. Thay are really fucked up. Terrell is just on the edge. I regularly drive across Texas and I would say mask wearing has been about 40/60 consistently across the state with mask wearing dropping only slightly since Abbot removed his mandate. None of the stores dont care but still put up signs due to corporate directives. I wore a mask the first few months of 2020 till I got a handle on what this virus was, but haven't worn one since and have never been challenged.
Texas is full of little bitches of BOTH genders. I'm a native Texan and I'm shocked at how cucked my neighbors are. Every Millennial and Boomer I know is a brainwashed faggot. It's better for Gen Xers.
Gen X here too. Boomers raped the world and destroyed our institutions. It's no coincidence that when millennials went to school and college they were taught mostly (not entirely) by boomers.
True Texan here. I escaped Commifornia about 12 years ago and got home as fast as I could. Moved to a rural area and there are no masks here. In Houston, though, where I work.... yeah. Good luck with that.
Because Abbott’s move to lift the mandate was counterfeit. He tried to make himself look like Desantis (after getting obliterated in that CPAC poll) but it doesn’t work if you don’t go all the way and make sure people can’t be FORCED to wear the mask or receive penalties for it.
Trespassing and resisting arrest. You faggots are all about it when it's some liberal or thug who isn't following orders. You're just as inconsistent and hypocritical as the left.
If you want to refuse service for any reason you must have locked doors and be appointment only, etc. the second you unlock your doors and let people freely waltz in uninvited then you can no longer refuse them service.
By opening the doors to the public the business has asked me to come in. By asking me to come in I now have a right to be there. Unless I’m breaking a law you cannot revoke the invitation because my right to be somewhere supersedes your business’s rights.
Remember this isn’t a home or residence. It’s a place of public gathering. Your individual rights to be somewhere prevent a corporation from revoking your invitation.
Imagine a business putting cameras in the bathrooms of their building. Clearly your right to privacy overrides their right to put security cameras wherever they please so this isn’t some weird or novel concept.
But that’s the thing about HIPAA, it’s a health information privacy act. She could have a medical condition that could prevent her from wearing the mask and she should not be asked nor forced to reveal it to gain access to a particular service.
She also should not have to present her vaccination records either. I wanna know if there are any HIPAA lawsuits getting started because I would totally sue on that basis.
She never said anything about having a medical issue preventing her from wearing a mask. If that is the case then all she had to do was say so. She would not have to reveal specifics and that would have changed the situation. That isn't what happened.
My comment was a hypothetical. IF she did, she shouldn’t be asked and she shouldn’t have to reveal. Therefore, the assumption of a pre-existing condition should always be there. These policies are violating people’s civil rights.
Not at all. She can be asked to wear a mask. Her response can be "I cannot wear a mask due to a medical condition" and at that point the business must leave her alone. She does not have to reveal what her medical condition is but she does have to inform the business that that is her reason for not wearing a mask.
The HIPAA Privacy Rule regulates the use and disclosure of protected health information (PHI) held by "covered entities" (generally, health care clearinghouses, employer-sponsored health plans, health insurers, and medical service providers that engage in certain transactions).
Covered entities may disclose protected health information to law enforcement officials for law enforcement purposes as required by law (including court orders, court-ordered warrants, subpoenas) and administrative requests; or to identify or locate a suspect, a fugitive, a material witness, or a missing person.
Not even law enforcement can request medical information without warrant or a LE related purpose. You thought a business not engaged in health care services could request medical information? Smh.
It was because she was technically trespassing but everyone knows that is bullshit. Once a businesses tells you to leave no matter how stupid the reason you have to once you don't it is trespassing. Same scenario happened in philly at a Starbucks with a black dude a few years ago blm came out and he got paid I think. He didn't get injured at all this 65 year old white lady has 3 broken bones in her foot I doubt she'll get a settlement because obvious reasons.
Am a cop this cop deserves at least 15 days possibly more depending on galvestons directives
At the end of the day it is a private business... the big problem I have is that BOA are the ones who decided to expel this woman from their business over a fucking face diaper. Pull your money out and never do business there again. That's how freedom works.
She is right to be angry but should have just walked out and raised hell with the business in writing.
After what BOA did to people during the recession / housing crisis, idk how they have any business left. You've gotta be a fucking idiot to put your money in their.
Yeah it's more badass and smarter to go kicking and screaming like a fucking lefty idiot on the lobby floor than to use brains to try to actually make the bank regret that policy.
At the end of the day it is a private business... the big problem I have is that BOA are the ones who decided to expel this woman from their business over a fucking face diaper. Pull your money out and never do business there again. That's how freedom works.
She is right to be angry but should have just walked out and raised hell with the business in writing.
Think for a moment though. Is a private business allowed to compel your dress. Like someone else said elsewhere, if Walmart compels you to wear a dildo on your head to enter - for public safety, of course - then I guess that's what freedom is and you don't have to shop there. That sum it up?
If I tell you that you have to wear a dildo on your head to enter my property, then that’s my right, or you are trespassing. You likely just won’t come to visit.
The bigger underlying problem is when you are effectively forced to go into an establishment like a bank or grocery store. Can they just establish any crazy rules they want? Could Walmart legally force everyone to wear head dildos after destroying all competition?
Oddly, my credit union has a sign out front that says, "No sunglasses, hoodies, or stocking caps allowed inside". Next to that is a "Mask Required" sign. They haven't asked me to wear one.
I am having a hard time accepting the "private business" angle when that private business had this woman's money and would not let her retrieve it unless she put on a mask. What they could have done is arranged for her to wait outside while they had an employee give her the proper forms to retrieve her money, then present that money to her after she signed it. They allowed her no other option then to wear a mask or have her money withheld.
Not sure if this is true. We saw a video posted here in which a fast food worker working the drive thru refused to hand over a woman her drink unless she had a mask. He offered to hand her a mask and after she put it on give her the drink. She pointed out the idiocy of this and he still wouldn't budge.
We really comparing bank tellers to fast food workers? I'm sorry, but fast food workers are a special level of retarded. Chick-fil-a being the exception.
Just so everyone understands, you can be trespassed off private property for any reason. If a business wants to trespass you over masks that's their right. When the police show up to enforce the trespassing laws you should comply or you will be arrested.
One of the important steps to knowing your rights is also knowing where they end.
You know there is a Ammunition company that has refused to do business with Biden voters, right? You guys do not understand the laws or private property. You also are failing to see the flip side of the coin
Well, they can't trespass you because of discrimination based on protected classifications. That's not now trespassing laws work. So they can't trespass you because you're white, but depending on the state they could over your political affiliation since that's not a federally protected classification. Not that any business owner that gives two shits about their business would that that in this political climate. Also, you won't be detained if you just leave when you're asked to leave, if not by the business then by the police.
Regardless, you shouldn't patronize businesses that would trespass you over stupid shit anyway. Why would you even care? Be more like they guy that canceled his $200 takeout order over mask bs, and less like people who scream I know my rights when they clearly don't.
If a business wants to enforce mask mandates and the customer refuses but declines to leave the business when asked then all the police can arrest her for is trespassing, not for failure to wear a mask since there is no law requiring mask wearing. Police can only arrest you for breaking a law such as trespass or resisting arrest (when the cop is trying to get you off the property you are trespassing) not for failure to comply with the whims of a business. If a business requires shoes and a shirt to serve you and you don't comply, the cops don't arrest you for not wearing shoes and a shirt. They arrest you for trespassing, assuming you wouldn't leave. That said...fuck the cops.
It isn’t about the mask after the woman is asked to leave by the business. The masks are fucking bullshit but I’m totally ok with allowing a business to enforce masks or not. It should be completely up to them. It should have NEVER been government mandated in all businesses. However when the woman refused to wear the mask inside the cucked business and she was asked to leave and refused, the main issue is trespassing/nuisance complaint. Had the lady just left when asked, especially by the cop she probably wouldn’t have gotten arrested. Again I think masks are bullshit but I’ve seen a few headlines saying she was arrested for not wearing a mask and that’s not really the case.
Careful with that logic and reason in here. Lots of faggy "patriots" that might fit in better with antifa based on the ignorance and child like emotion displayed.
Agreed. I keep seeing people saying this and headlines repeating the same when it’s simply not true. People don’t understand laws or law enforcement very well.
Law enforcement is not the enemy the politicians who make these laws are. Police officers don't get to follow there own ideas and mandates and have little discretion in these situations. The woman by taking her money out was doing what she believes is right but went about it the wrong way and abbott needs to go he is no MAGA following politician. He takes and acts out of both sides of his mouth.
Careful using logic in here with this subject. I only hope we've been infiltrated by faggot commies who are trying to stoke division with police (hello Obama M.O.) and pretending to be patriotic frens.
I saw this video and discussion last night on PT News Channel on YT. There were alot of mixed comments. How is Abbott going to lift the mask mandate statewide, but if a business like a bank wants to enforce masks, then law enforcement must comply and enforce this? Seems ridiculous.
Apparently there is a clause in the Abbott edict where businesses can keep mandates and the mask off is only for public spaces. This officer should have taken the woman outside and informed her of the particulars instead of trying to arrest her inside the bank.
Another example of Clown World IMO.
Optics didn't look very good when officer somewhat aggressively trying to arrest an older woman over a stupid mask.
Went out yesterday to celebrate the lifting of mask mandates. I only saw one young girl without one. I’m in north central Texas. Everyone wears them and many wear gloves too. And about a thousand Karens on our neighborhood site shaming those who want to take off masks. Shaming, using Christianity as their weapon. I just want to know where are all the true Texans? It feels more like Commifornia here now.
Texan here, too. There is hope. Stopped into a Race Trac gas station in Terrell yesterday, and most people going in were not wearing masks. I’d say it was a 60/40 split.
Sounds about right, trends take a while to get going.
You gotta get away from the cities. Thay are really fucked up. Terrell is just on the edge. I regularly drive across Texas and I would say mask wearing has been about 40/60 consistently across the state with mask wearing dropping only slightly since Abbot removed his mandate. None of the stores dont care but still put up signs due to corporate directives. I wore a mask the first few months of 2020 till I got a handle on what this virus was, but haven't worn one since and have never been challenged.
Texas is full of little bitches of BOTH genders. I'm a native Texan and I'm shocked at how cucked my neighbors are. Every Millennial and Boomer I know is a brainwashed faggot. It's better for Gen Xers.
Generation x, aka the forgotten generation. I feel you bud.
Gen X here. Being "forgotten" is a blessing, honestly. Boomer and millennials are sheep.
Gen X here too. Boomers raped the world and destroyed our institutions. It's no coincidence that when millennials went to school and college they were taught mostly (not entirely) by boomers.
Same here
True Texan here. I escaped Commifornia about 12 years ago and got home as fast as I could. Moved to a rural area and there are no masks here. In Houston, though, where I work.... yeah. Good luck with that.
Memorial Hospital has signs up all around the city telling people not to stop wearing masks and to get the vaccine... what a bunch of assholes.
just tell the morons you are vaccinated
Because Abbott’s move to lift the mandate was counterfeit. He tried to make himself look like Desantis (after getting obliterated in that CPAC poll) but it doesn’t work if you don’t go all the way and make sure people can’t be FORCED to wear the mask or receive penalties for it.
Private companies can refuse service for any reason outside of race religion or sex. They SHOULD be able to refuse service for ANY reason.
Then we all need to pass laws banning the mandatory use of face masks in all places.
Hopefully that’s what North Dakota is doing!
What part of refusing service includes being tackled by police?
Trespassing and resisting arrest. You faggots are all about it when it's some liberal or thug who isn't following orders. You're just as inconsistent and hypocritical as the left.
Not if you’re open to the public.
If you want to refuse service for any reason you must have locked doors and be appointment only, etc. the second you unlock your doors and let people freely waltz in uninvited then you can no longer refuse them service.
Finally someone who understands what public space is doesn’t confuse it with property rights.
This simply isn't true. You're wrong. 🤷🏻♂️
Of course I’m not wrong.
By opening the doors to the public the business has asked me to come in. By asking me to come in I now have a right to be there. Unless I’m breaking a law you cannot revoke the invitation because my right to be somewhere supersedes your business’s rights.
Remember this isn’t a home or residence. It’s a place of public gathering. Your individual rights to be somewhere prevent a corporation from revoking your invitation.
Imagine a business putting cameras in the bathrooms of their building. Clearly your right to privacy overrides their right to put security cameras wherever they please so this isn’t some weird or novel concept.
Of course you are wrong. Please educate yourself and promptly piss off.
https://www.mydoorsign.com/blog/right-to-refuse-service-to-anyone/
But that’s the thing about HIPAA, it’s a health information privacy act. She could have a medical condition that could prevent her from wearing the mask and she should not be asked nor forced to reveal it to gain access to a particular service.
She also should not have to present her vaccination records either. I wanna know if there are any HIPAA lawsuits getting started because I would totally sue on that basis.
She never said anything about having a medical issue preventing her from wearing a mask. If that is the case then all she had to do was say so. She would not have to reveal specifics and that would have changed the situation. That isn't what happened.
My comment was a hypothetical. IF she did, she shouldn’t be asked and she shouldn’t have to reveal. Therefore, the assumption of a pre-existing condition should always be there. These policies are violating people’s civil rights.
Not at all. She can be asked to wear a mask. Her response can be "I cannot wear a mask due to a medical condition" and at that point the business must leave her alone. She does not have to reveal what her medical condition is but she does have to inform the business that that is her reason for not wearing a mask.
Not even law enforcement can request medical information without warrant or a LE related purpose. You thought a business not engaged in health care services could request medical information? Smh.
Your place of business is a public space the second you open it to the public.
It was because she was technically trespassing but everyone knows that is bullshit. Once a businesses tells you to leave no matter how stupid the reason you have to once you don't it is trespassing. Same scenario happened in philly at a Starbucks with a black dude a few years ago blm came out and he got paid I think. He didn't get injured at all this 65 year old white lady has 3 broken bones in her foot I doubt she'll get a settlement because obvious reasons.
Am a cop this cop deserves at least 15 days possibly more depending on galvestons directives
He asked her multiple to go outside. He did not arrest her over a mask. She was trespassing. Are you fucking tarded?
At the end of the day it is a private business... the big problem I have is that BOA are the ones who decided to expel this woman from their business over a fucking face diaper. Pull your money out and never do business there again. That's how freedom works.
She is right to be angry but should have just walked out and raised hell with the business in writing.
They should be giving fining the businesses just like the Dems did.
After what BOA did to people during the recession / housing crisis, idk how they have any business left. You've gotta be a fucking idiot to put your money in their.
Fuck this pussy mentality
Yeah it's more badass and smarter to go kicking and screaming like a fucking lefty idiot on the lobby floor than to use brains to try to actually make the bank regret that policy.
We could use a little more kicking and screaming.
Sure thing, bud. I just think its better done at the right places, where it is effective.
Ahh, you're a "strongly worded message" kind of person. Thank God we have all of human history to show that doesn't work.
Think for a moment though. Is a private business allowed to compel your dress. Like someone else said elsewhere, if Walmart compels you to wear a dildo on your head to enter - for public safety, of course - then I guess that's what freedom is and you don't have to shop there. That sum it up?
Let Bank of America know how you feel:
https://www.bankofamerica.com/customer-service/contact-us/feedback-form/
BOA website down entirely lol guess too many hits on your link. that, and people hauling their money out by the truck load
If I tell you that you have to wear a dildo on your head to enter my property, then that’s my right, or you are trespassing. You likely just won’t come to visit.
The bigger underlying problem is when you are effectively forced to go into an establishment like a bank or grocery store. Can they just establish any crazy rules they want? Could Walmart legally force everyone to wear head dildos after destroying all competition?
Yes. Yes they could.
"where is your massk?, i am six feet away. " "well i was six feet away" OMGFG
Oddly, my credit union has a sign out front that says, "No sunglasses, hoodies, or stocking caps allowed inside". Next to that is a "Mask Required" sign. They haven't asked me to wear one.
LE enforcement aren't dumb. They know how to make it to their retirement and pension. Just stay away from the gang no go zones and attack old women.
Wish I would have been there with her
2021: Where you can be arrested for NOT wearing a mask in a bank
Fuck Bank of America. And fuck that cop too. Easy way or the hard way? GTFO..No tact whatsoever.
Yep.
So, we still doing blue lives matter? We still supporting the thin blue line?
We still doing hero worship of soldiers?
This is why is was always folly to think that cops were the protectors of society.
"White privilege" on display here.
If she were a young black male the cops would have said - fuk dis, we're outta here.
If it was a young black male and the cop responded this way you'd be cheering on the cop. 🙄
Fuck the police unironically
Excellent use of law enforcement resources...
I am having a hard time accepting the "private business" angle when that private business had this woman's money and would not let her retrieve it unless she put on a mask. What they could have done is arranged for her to wait outside while they had an employee give her the proper forms to retrieve her money, then present that money to her after she signed it. They allowed her no other option then to wear a mask or have her money withheld.
Or she could have used the drive thru. Problem solved.
Not sure if this is true. We saw a video posted here in which a fast food worker working the drive thru refused to hand over a woman her drink unless she had a mask. He offered to hand her a mask and after she put it on give her the drink. She pointed out the idiocy of this and he still wouldn't budge.
We really comparing bank tellers to fast food workers? I'm sorry, but fast food workers are a special level of retarded. Chick-fil-a being the exception.
Just so everyone understands, you can be trespassed off private property for any reason. If a business wants to trespass you over masks that's their right. When the police show up to enforce the trespassing laws you should comply or you will be arrested.
One of the important steps to knowing your rights is also knowing where they end.
So when businesses start calling police to detain white people or trump voters, you’re just going to bend over and take it like the fag you are
You know there is a Ammunition company that has refused to do business with Biden voters, right? You guys do not understand the laws or private property. You also are failing to see the flip side of the coin
Well, they can't trespass you because of discrimination based on protected classifications. That's not now trespassing laws work. So they can't trespass you because you're white, but depending on the state they could over your political affiliation since that's not a federally protected classification. Not that any business owner that gives two shits about their business would that that in this political climate. Also, you won't be detained if you just leave when you're asked to leave, if not by the business then by the police.
Regardless, you shouldn't patronize businesses that would trespass you over stupid shit anyway. Why would you even care? Be more like they guy that canceled his $200 takeout order over mask bs, and less like people who scream I know my rights when they clearly don't.
Logical fallacy. Be better than that.
Oh God, a retard who still thinks slippery slope is a logical fallacy.
We really are fucked.
Was this the best response you could come up with? Another fallacy? Sad.
Sure. You can't discriminate based on protected classifications, but beyond that it's private property and they can ask you to leave for any reason.
She never said shit about a medical condition
Logical fallacy. Do better.
State the logical fallacy. Do better. Medical disabilities are no different than protected classes.
Not my job, chump. Research yourself. Shit argument doesn't equate.
Cop is a fucking bitch lol. What a pussy
How's that thin blue line working for you guys.
If a business wants to enforce mask mandates and the customer refuses but declines to leave the business when asked then all the police can arrest her for is trespassing, not for failure to wear a mask since there is no law requiring mask wearing. Police can only arrest you for breaking a law such as trespass or resisting arrest (when the cop is trying to get you off the property you are trespassing) not for failure to comply with the whims of a business. If a business requires shoes and a shirt to serve you and you don't comply, the cops don't arrest you for not wearing shoes and a shirt. They arrest you for trespassing, assuming you wouldn't leave. That said...fuck the cops.
You were doing good until your lefty blanket statement of "fuck the cops". Not All Cops Are Bastards
It isn’t about the mask after the woman is asked to leave by the business. The masks are fucking bullshit but I’m totally ok with allowing a business to enforce masks or not. It should be completely up to them. It should have NEVER been government mandated in all businesses. However when the woman refused to wear the mask inside the cucked business and she was asked to leave and refused, the main issue is trespassing/nuisance complaint. Had the lady just left when asked, especially by the cop she probably wouldn’t have gotten arrested. Again I think masks are bullshit but I’ve seen a few headlines saying she was arrested for not wearing a mask and that’s not really the case.
Careful with that logic and reason in here. Lots of faggy "patriots" that might fit in better with antifa based on the ignorance and child like emotion displayed.
This woman is not being arrested for refusing to wear a mask. She's trespassing and resisting arrest. You guys are being faggots
Good goy.
Agreed. I keep seeing people saying this and headlines repeating the same when it’s simply not true. People don’t understand laws or law enforcement very well.
Law enforcement is not the enemy the politicians who make these laws are. Police officers don't get to follow there own ideas and mandates and have little discretion in these situations. The woman by taking her money out was doing what she believes is right but went about it the wrong way and abbott needs to go he is no MAGA following politician. He takes and acts out of both sides of his mouth.
Careful using logic in here with this subject. I only hope we've been infiltrated by faggot commies who are trying to stoke division with police (hello Obama M.O.) and pretending to be patriotic frens.