Correct, the mask shit is not a law. That's not the issue. Like it or not (I wouldn't bank with them) that bank enforced a company policy (yes, it's a private business, we're not into full on socialism yet) and she chose to ignore it and cause a disturbance and they wanted her to leave the property. THAT'S what was being enforced. Again, play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
Also, are you the ignorant type that watches a police shooting and says, "Why didn't that cop just shoot that axe wielding maniac in the toe." in a lethal force situation? He didn't tackle her like described in the click bait title. He gave her verbal commands that she chose to ignore. He then simply escalated his force to stay just above her escalating force to stay in control of the situation as safely for him AND HER as possible. Fucking damned if you do or don't apparently.
All you are doing is analyzing the situation with your emotions. Use logic and reason instead. Don't be a liberal.
She simply should have abided momentarily, got her money and quit doing business there, and aimed that passion and effort in the right direction to obtain true satisfaction.
“The restaurants have a right to refuse service to blacks. They told those blacks about a dozen times they weren’t welcome there. So they totally deserved to have those dogs let loose on them while the cops beat them like pinatas”
Lmao, that's a nice logical fallacy you got there. Reading comprehension helps here. I'm not for the bank. Fuck them. Simply, if you're going to use your energy to do some form of protest, be smart and the most effective with it. That lady knew, or should have known, the outcome of her chosen course of action. She looked like an idiot and did zero damage to the bank. That's not winning with your brain. That's throwing a fucking temper tantrum like the lefties we often make fun of and are disgusted by.
“Those blacks didnt do any damage to the restaurant, they just looked like idiots getting beat up in the streets, covered in milkshakes and steak fries”
“Just throwing a temper tantrum, they knew what the outcome would be when they decided to do that terrible, despicable, unspeakable offense”
Devils advocate is a useful tool to get people to provide nuance to their argument, and make sure that minority opinions can get an answer to the questions they raise.
But the issue is that if the logical response to someone not following a law/rule is to throw them to the floor and beat them, we should make sure the law/rule is important enough to warrant that.
Not wearing a useless mask when its not flu season, while not inside of a nursing home for 100 year old diabetic aids patients, is not a good reason to throw a 65 year old woman to the floor.
By your logic, do people beheaded for drawing Mohammed deserve it? We all know the muslims will enforce that rule with deadly force. Should we not condemn them just because they made it clear what the punishment was beforehand? Its not like its difficult not to draw Mohammad, you can’t exactly draw him by accident.
Technically correct on the trespass but it's a low level misdemeanor that'll get laughed out of pretty much any court. Excessive force means anything more than necessary to effect the arrest. 65 year old senior don't see why a young dude would need to manhandle her a break 3 bones.
Am a cop have had to fight with actual criminals this could have been handled pretty easily with no force used. He went to force pretty quickly. Sometimes taking a second to explain the law to someone makes a difference.
Correct, the mask shit is not a law. That's not the issue. Like it or not (I wouldn't bank with them) that bank enforced a company policy (yes, it's a private business, we're not into full on socialism yet) and she chose to ignore it and cause a disturbance and they wanted her to leave the property. THAT'S what was being enforced. Again, play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
Also, are you the ignorant type that watches a police shooting and says, "Why didn't that cop just shoot that axe wielding maniac in the toe." in a lethal force situation? He didn't tackle her like described in the click bait title. He gave her verbal commands that she chose to ignore. He then simply escalated his force to stay just above her escalating force to stay in control of the situation as safely for him AND HER as possible. Fucking damned if you do or don't apparently.
All you are doing is analyzing the situation with your emotions. Use logic and reason instead. Don't be a liberal.
She simply should have abided momentarily, got her money and quit doing business there, and aimed that passion and effort in the right direction to obtain true satisfaction.
She stood there quietly wanting to get her money out. There was no scene until the bank teller called the gestapo on her
“The restaurants have a right to refuse service to blacks. They told those blacks about a dozen times they weren’t welcome there. So they totally deserved to have those dogs let loose on them while the cops beat them like pinatas”
Lmao, that's a nice logical fallacy you got there. Reading comprehension helps here. I'm not for the bank. Fuck them. Simply, if you're going to use your energy to do some form of protest, be smart and the most effective with it. That lady knew, or should have known, the outcome of her chosen course of action. She looked like an idiot and did zero damage to the bank. That's not winning with your brain. That's throwing a fucking temper tantrum like the lefties we often make fun of and are disgusted by.
“Those blacks didnt do any damage to the restaurant, they just looked like idiots getting beat up in the streets, covered in milkshakes and steak fries”
“Just throwing a temper tantrum, they knew what the outcome would be when they decided to do that terrible, despicable, unspeakable offense”
Devils advocate is a useful tool to get people to provide nuance to their argument, and make sure that minority opinions can get an answer to the questions they raise.
But the issue is that if the logical response to someone not following a law/rule is to throw them to the floor and beat them, we should make sure the law/rule is important enough to warrant that.
Not wearing a useless mask when its not flu season, while not inside of a nursing home for 100 year old diabetic aids patients, is not a good reason to throw a 65 year old woman to the floor.
By your logic, do people beheaded for drawing Mohammed deserve it? We all know the muslims will enforce that rule with deadly force. Should we not condemn them just because they made it clear what the punishment was beforehand? Its not like its difficult not to draw Mohammad, you can’t exactly draw him by accident.
Technically correct on the trespass but it's a low level misdemeanor that'll get laughed out of pretty much any court. Excessive force means anything more than necessary to effect the arrest. 65 year old senior don't see why a young dude would need to manhandle her a break 3 bones.
Am a cop have had to fight with actual criminals this could have been handled pretty easily with no force used. He went to force pretty quickly. Sometimes taking a second to explain the law to someone makes a difference.