I posted below about having a family member going through this. The parents are powerless. All psychiatrists and therapists affirm, teachers change the kid's name without telling them, Planned Parenthood will give them hormones without parental consent, all under the threat that their child will commit suicide without them.
Personally, if it were my kid, I'd move off-grid. Parental responsibility comes before this ball starts rolling by keeping their kid off ALL social media. I have 2 girls 11 and 13 and they know that's just not an option for them. But were we to have this come up, there would be no help from the medical community, only massive opposition against me. It is criminal.
No offense to your family members' parenting skills, but you have to be a good parent from the start, not decide to be one when shit starts going down. If you raise your kids to respect you, respect the family, and not be self-focused navel-gazing losers, you won't end up being in this situation at all, let alone being powerless.
The parents were good in many ways, but gave 100% free rein of the internet (iPhone, Snapchat, YouTube) to their child from the age of 12. This was a colossal mistake.
I'm not offended, I warned them.
That being said, you would think that psychiatrists and therapists would be there to help, they are not.
As far as your other comments, they lead me to believe you don't have kids. I know wonderful parents whose kids go off the rails. There are many issues (chemical, psychological) which are so far outside the parenting realm that it's laughable to think great parenting will automatically guarantee great, healthy adults.
You would be incorrect. I have kids. Oldest is 22. Youngest is 4. I didn't say that nothing could go wrong. I said THIS wouldn't happen if you raise kids properly. I stand by that. And just where do you think these psychological issues that are 'so far outside the parenting realm' come from? Do they just magically appear? Parents just trip, slip on the floor and whoops their kid is a tranny? In order for this to occur, it takes a rudderless child; a child no receiving guidance from parents. A child seeking approval and acceptance that they aren't finding in their homelife. For a child to push away parents in favor of psychologists and therapists indicates a mile high pile of parenting fail. And if they aren't a huge bag of fucking fail to begin with why the hell are their kids in therapy?
Yes, some psychological issues are COMPLETELY out of the parenting realm.
It's clear to me that we should agree to disagree. Mental health issues run in families, not everyone is born neurotypically. I have two children with LDs which are thankfully treatable with a good educational environment and they're very well adjusted. Because of my experience with their school I have met many kids with anxiety and other challenges which stem from their LDs. This is something they are BORN with, it is a neurological disorder.
I'm thrilled you have two kids and you've been able to see one easier side of the coin, but to think for an instant that just raising your kids right will avoid the challenges which come from physical or neurological predispositions is, frankly, naive.
some parents are powerless, relative to the vast groups around their child who are carrying a big flag for them and pushing them forward. Some parents are on board and doing the pushing for pathologies all of their own.
If your girls are in public school stay on top of them like a hawk. I've seen this shit go down over the course of a week. Know what's being taught in class, know their friends and provide lots of healthy opportunities for them to grow in a positive direction.
Also massive points for keeping them off social media.
If they have internet access look into https://www.opendns.com/ for free content blocking on your home network.
Thanks for the info, I'm really on top of it. We use Qustodio (in case this helps other parents) and block all SM and keep an eye on all online activity. They're in private school as they have mild learning differences, but if they didn't they'd be going to another private, or home school.
It's pretty funny watching my 13 year old have to text with an old flip phone, but if I did it so can she! LOL
I posted below about having a family member going through this. The parents are powerless. All psychiatrists and therapists affirm, teachers change the kid's name without telling them, Planned Parenthood will give them hormones without parental consent, all under the threat that their child will commit suicide without them.
Personally, if it were my kid, I'd move off-grid. Parental responsibility comes before this ball starts rolling by keeping their kid off ALL social media. I have 2 girls 11 and 13 and they know that's just not an option for them. But were we to have this come up, there would be no help from the medical community, only massive opposition against me. It is criminal.
No offense to your family members' parenting skills, but you have to be a good parent from the start, not decide to be one when shit starts going down. If you raise your kids to respect you, respect the family, and not be self-focused navel-gazing losers, you won't end up being in this situation at all, let alone being powerless.
The parents were good in many ways, but gave 100% free rein of the internet (iPhone, Snapchat, YouTube) to their child from the age of 12. This was a colossal mistake.
I'm not offended, I warned them.
That being said, you would think that psychiatrists and therapists would be there to help, they are not.
As far as your other comments, they lead me to believe you don't have kids. I know wonderful parents whose kids go off the rails. There are many issues (chemical, psychological) which are so far outside the parenting realm that it's laughable to think great parenting will automatically guarantee great, healthy adults.
You would be incorrect. I have kids. Oldest is 22. Youngest is 4. I didn't say that nothing could go wrong. I said THIS wouldn't happen if you raise kids properly. I stand by that. And just where do you think these psychological issues that are 'so far outside the parenting realm' come from? Do they just magically appear? Parents just trip, slip on the floor and whoops their kid is a tranny? In order for this to occur, it takes a rudderless child; a child no receiving guidance from parents. A child seeking approval and acceptance that they aren't finding in their homelife. For a child to push away parents in favor of psychologists and therapists indicates a mile high pile of parenting fail. And if they aren't a huge bag of fucking fail to begin with why the hell are their kids in therapy?
Yes, some psychological issues are COMPLETELY out of the parenting realm.
It's clear to me that we should agree to disagree. Mental health issues run in families, not everyone is born neurotypically. I have two children with LDs which are thankfully treatable with a good educational environment and they're very well adjusted. Because of my experience with their school I have met many kids with anxiety and other challenges which stem from their LDs. This is something they are BORN with, it is a neurological disorder.
I'm thrilled you have two kids and you've been able to see one easier side of the coin, but to think for an instant that just raising your kids right will avoid the challenges which come from physical or neurological predispositions is, frankly, naive.
some parents are powerless, relative to the vast groups around their child who are carrying a big flag for them and pushing them forward. Some parents are on board and doing the pushing for pathologies all of their own.
You're absolutely right about that.
If your girls are in public school stay on top of them like a hawk. I've seen this shit go down over the course of a week. Know what's being taught in class, know their friends and provide lots of healthy opportunities for them to grow in a positive direction.
Also massive points for keeping them off social media.
If they have internet access look into https://www.opendns.com/ for free content blocking on your home network.
Thanks for the info, I'm really on top of it. We use Qustodio (in case this helps other parents) and block all SM and keep an eye on all online activity. They're in private school as they have mild learning differences, but if they didn't they'd be going to another private, or home school.
It's pretty funny watching my 13 year old have to text with an old flip phone, but if I did it so can she! LOL