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Science Disagrees 100% (media.patriots.win)
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Block_Helen 1 point ago +1 / -0

No it wasn't. It absolutely wasn't until relatively recently. People used "sex" in those instances. Then "gender" began to creep in.

How old are you? I'm 52. I remember this change very clearly.

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SellTheSun 1 point ago +1 / -0

Look we agree on almost everything, but your argument makes no sense and it's incredibly easy to prove that you're wrong about this. Gender always meant biological sex and Dr. John Money came up with the idea of giving it a new meaning and subverting the word. Judith Butler furthered the idea. Before this all started, Gender was ALWAYS a synonym for biological sex and it's only been very recent that the new idea of 'gender' has entered the public consciousness.

Here is the Modern Dictionary of the English Language published in 1911, gender is in the furthest right column near the top:

https://archive.org/details/moderndictionary00londuoft/page/222/mode/2up?view=theater

You can look up many different dictionaries from the past decades and you'll find the same thing.

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Block_Helen 1 point ago +1 / -0

Sorry, but regardless of what the dictionaries say, actual real people did not use the two terms interchangeably. That is a fact. Forms and applications also did not use "gender," they used "sex." I know this because I was alive back then and witnessed the change.

Otherwise, yes, we agree.

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SellTheSun 1 point ago +1 / -0

I said that gender is a synonym for biological sex, and you strangely claimed that it wasn't. I showed you proof that it is, that's really all there is to it.

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Block_Helen 1 point ago +1 / -0

As it is currently used, "gender" is decidedly not a synonym for biological sex. We agreed on this.

Then you made a number of statements about how the two terms were used interchangeably until "gender" was hijacked. Those statements are simply not accurate.

If I had to guess, I'd say you're too young to know better, but that isn't stopping you from making assertions about how things used to be.