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TheUsurper 3 points ago +4 / -1

Saints are souls in the beatific vision. You cannot be a saint while you are still alive and not all Christians do and will go to heaven.

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OnlyCaleb 1 point ago +3 / -2

I assume you're a Catholic. As far as I know, there's no basis for the theology of beatific vision in the Bible outside of the apocrypha which Protestants don't consider scripture, or writings from church fathers and popes.

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TheUsurper 1 point ago +2 / -1

Matthew : 7 : 22-23 - Many will say to me in that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and perform many powerful deeds in your name?' And then will I disclose to them: 'I have never known you. Depart from me, you workers of iniquity.'

Not all Christians will go to heaven. Also the Trinity is not in the Bible but I do not know a single Protestant who does not believe it since it was defined by the Catholic Church because of the Arian heresy.

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OnlyCaleb 0 points ago +2 / -2
  1. Those aren't Christians. Being in a mcdonalds doesn't make you a hamburger and being in the church and even invoking the Lord's name doesn't make you a Christian.

  2. Look at how they try and justify themselves...."look what I did....I did this and that". And the things they talk about are the things that give honor from a wordly perspective. People gasp in wonder when people prophecy and cast out demons (even when they're false excercisions and prophecies). These are the people you see who are like the false prophets who get a lot of praise and glory for themselves here on earth. They're motivations aren't from God, but for their own glory. The bible talks about these pretenders.

  3. The word trinity is not in the Bible, but the concept is. Many concepts are not named, but the concept is there. Such as ominpotence, omnipresence, and many others. Those words aren't in the Bible, but we know they're true because their concepts are there.

The Catholic church merely itemized and named a concept that was throughout the New Testament and to varying degrees in the old testament.

The concept of beatific vision is not in the Bible in fact many parts of the Bible say things that are in direct opposition to that belief and no parts support it unless scripture is twisted beyond recognition.