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Chuj 54 points ago +55 / -1

Our immigrant ancestors came over knowing they had to work to survive. Illegals now come expecting handouts

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Bluestorm83 25 points ago +26 / -1

Thank you. My earliest ancestors here were just four and five generations ago, but they came and immediately put their hands to their tasks. As bronze workers, as engineers, as carpenters. They didn't have much, but what they had they earned, and they in their labor and their wisdom laid up for my generation and provided goods and services to others. They cast off their old languages and spoke only English, they gave up the styles of government that had failed them in the past and took up American Civics.

I have NEVER seen an Italian, Irish, Polish, English, German, or any other flag that is my "heritage" in any old family photos, and yet flying proudly at the door of my Great Grandfather, who died at 98 years old, was ALWAYS the American Flag. He spoke enough English to barely get through the day, but damn it he LOVED this nation and always did his best to honor the gift it had given him.

So yes, everyone should be proud of their ancestors if they came here in the original settling. But if your ancestors came later on, and lived their lives to live up to the standard SET by those original founders, you should be just as proud. I am, and fuck ANYONE who would classify my true Immigrant ancestors from these fucking Welfare Carpetbaggers today.

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basedvirginian 7 points ago +8 / -1

Exactly. America is a place where you work hard for yourself and future generations. Not a place where you can come in and expect the world to be handed to you.

I hate what the Democrats have done to our nation. They turned us all against each other and made us hateful. Republicans are not blameless either, but at least the media doesn’t let them get away with inciting violence on a daily basis...

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philnmdg 3 points ago +4 / -1

My grandparents came over from Italy. My father was born in a house not a hospital and didn't speak English until he went to school. When his kids were born, he refused to let them learn Italian because they were Americans and he was damn proud of it. In hindsight, I wish we learned. The world got very small during my lifetime!

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BurgerChef90 1 point ago +2 / -1

What is it they say, 80% of Americans can trace their ancestry back to Ellis Island?

Who here can't say that?

I can't, all my direct ancestors were here by the turn of the 18th century. To compare them to those of today is disgusting. They came here to work their asses off for a better life, they didn't come here looking for handouts.

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Grady_Wilson 2 points ago +3 / -1

Well, since I have a roll number with the BIA, my ancestors didn't come by way of Ellis Island.

I get so tired of the 'We're all immigrants' bullshit. The US was built by fiercely independent and patriotic peoples that came here to be Americans. Not to be some hyphenated version from wherever they came from.

Plus, the Left wants to say 'We're all immigrants' while blathering on and on about how the poor black people were brought here against their will.

I guess that means that most blacks aren't immigrants, either.

As usual, more Leftist doublespeak.

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wow_a_conservative 7 points ago +8 / -1

^^This

I remember learning about Ellis Island and immigration in Junior High. We did a whole role-playing type day long exercise about who was allowed to immigrate into the United States.

Surprise! It wasn't just anyone who showed up. If you couldn't support yourself, or have family that could support you, you got refused entry and sent home.

This was a depressingly long time ago for me, but I remember the character I played was a 60-ish elderly man, that supposedly had family in the States. I think I was rejected and sent home.

The problem now is that "undocumented" immigration is leading to a MASSIVE surge in the Support state.

A Country should have social safety nets for its people that hit hard times. Sure! Fine! I agree!

A safety net =/= a hammock that you can stay in indefinitely!

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randomusers239874 7 points ago +8 / -1

Legal immigration is just as bad. Wages are a market like any other, and obey the laws of supply and demand. Increase the number of workers, and you decrease the average wage.

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BigIronBigIron 0 points ago +2 / -2

"Decreased average wages? Sounds great!" -Mr. The-Reason-We're-In-This-Mess

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wow_a_conservative -1 points ago +3 / -4

"unchecked" legal immigration.

There are reasons that some immigration can be a good thing. But it needs to be done with a mentality of supporting American citizens first. Not being the worlds fallback for free stuff.

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alucard13mmfmj 2 points ago +3 / -1

Now.. feelings dominate policy making. And i hate to use it.. but women seems to vote for things like open border and socialism.

Its hilarious. They vote for open border, which causes the area they live in to be unsafe. They dont blame their own decisions/vote because of stubborness or whatever. Then they vote for things blaming all men for making things unsafe.

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BigIronBigIron 0 points ago +2 / -2

Unsafe? I think you mean new and exotic and full of bad boys who don't play by the rules.

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Psilocybik 1 point ago +2 / -1

Ding ding ding. It's a byproduct of every man here getting told to cut their dick off and submit to feminism, but the foreign D won't be so stupid. Female hypergamy is thus satisfied.

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Chuj 0 points ago +1 / -1

Agree fully. And the important necessary safety net should cover current citizens, not illegals

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Mary911 2 points ago +3 / -1

You've definitely got that right.

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CelesteD 1 point ago +2 / -1

They're not here to assimilate, they're here to take.

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OperationWetback 1 point ago +2 / -1

The weak shall perish. Vae Victus.

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Roadpower 43 points ago +45 / -2

And explorers and settlers. They came here when there was nothing and then made something out of it. And I'm not dismissing the scattered tribes who were here but the reality is that they were people who were literally thousands of years behind in development. They didn't even have the wheel which is one of the most rudimentary human inventions there is after hand tools.

Further and because this has long annoyed me. What took place between the Europeans that came to the Americas and the tribes would have happened if it was Asians who came. This was a predictable clash of civilizations who were separated by thousands of years of development.

It just turned out to be Europeans because Europeans had the greatest pressures and prescience to explore the world. Any people who can easily live off the land always fall far behind in development because there is little environmental pressure on them to harden themselves for difficult conditions.

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KernalMustard 4 points ago +5 / -1

In a way you are right. The majority of the North American Tribes had nothing to worry about. Their ansestors came to North America and South America when it was empty. It was wide open. Everyone was so spread out. They didn't have to fight as much to gain terroity. War breeds innovation sadly. When people moved into Europe it was the same but with few skrimeses here and there. Countries and Civilizations got established. The Greeks and Romans mostly spured innovations becuase they wanted to expand thier empires or civilizations. They had also neighboring people they warred with. This led to buildng of ships which allowed them to eventallly come to The Americas. The only outlier in America was in Mesoamerica. Alot of the tribes lived around the Lake where Mexico city is today. War for terrioty bred some tribes to be stronger than the others and eventually the Azteca became the leading tribe and we know what happened there. A example of isloation breeds stagnation is Ancient China. A culture that began at Round 4000 bc didnt change much till invading peoples and internal strife allow them to change. They had chariots but that waa about it. It wasnt till they invented the first rifles and guns did warfare change for the rest of the world. What I'm saying is adversity breeds innovation. Sit around and nothing changes and you get taken over by someone stronger than you are

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spez__ 3 points ago +4 / -1

There's evidence of lots of wars being fought between tribes.

Take simple language, for example.

"Sioux," wasn't what they called themselves. "Sioux," means snake in Ojibwe, which indicates that the two tribes were enemies.

Its hard to say exactly where and when wars occurred, because tribes in North America never developed writing, but the Mound Builders didn't get the land they had through peaceful means, and the Five Nations routinely engaged in revenge wars and Viking like raids.

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Roadpower 2 points ago +3 / -1

It's not just human contact adversity, it is more the geological and meteorological pressures that advanced humanity. Climate being generally predictable was a major factor that literally made the Europeans what they are.

People living around the bountiful equator of the planet totally stagnated because they had little in the way environment pressures. The funny part is that the storm seasons were apparently a write off to them. They lost lives and whatever but they didn't give a shit. They just went back to living off the land.

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alucard13mmfmj 1 point ago +2 / -1

Yep. War creates the next level in human advancement. The nazis were using rocketry against the brits and tried to develop aircraft that used jet engines.

Hmmm what war created the internet?? Gulf war?

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KernalMustard 0 points ago +1 / -1

Another example would be England it was fairly isolated, bronze age before the romans came. Iron age during and after. Australia also. At some point someone came from somewhere else. Civilazitions flourish and die. Nothing lasts forever. Some die by war, internal strife, and poor leadership. We happen to have all 3 right now. Majority of Americans just don't know that the water is boiling.

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Valvoline 0 points ago +1 / -1

Early computers were made for code breaking in WW2. The internet was born out of experiments and funding from DARPA, all military budget. The same for satellite GPS.

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alucard13mmfmj 0 points ago +1 / -1

Bio chem warfare probably provided a lot as well.

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KingSweyn -1 points ago +1 / -2

This led to buildng of ships which allowed them to eventallly come to The Americas

You're spot on for most of it, but this is incorrect. Sailing was invented by the proto-Americans before the YD impact ~10,000 years ago. It was only after this catastrophe that the descendants of Pacific Islanders would populate the continent, later becoming "Native Americans". The oldest copper mine in the world was discovered in Michigan. The oldest industrial fishing operation was discovered in the Caribbean. The descendants (survivors) of the proto-Americans became the Phoenicians, bringing written language to Europe from their Mediterranean city, Rhodes.

The first cross-Atlantic economy happened during the bronze age: Northwest Europe had the tin, Michigan had the copper. This is the age of prehistoric cave paintings, which use the Paleo alphabet from which the Phoenician alphabet is descended. The same written language is used in both North American and European cave paintings, the same 32 characters.

The proto-Americans had the highest technology in the world at the time, even harnessing natural electricity. This destroyed civilization was the reality behind the myth of Atlantis. It was their technology that allowed the Egyptians to wield electricity during the time of the Pharaohs. It was their genetics that gave rise to the technological developments of Sicily, Greece, and Rome.

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crash7863 1 point ago +2 / -1

How did proto Americans get from Michigan to the Middle East where the Phoenicians lived?

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feraxil 11 points ago +12 / -1

They respond to this with "you're just being conquered back and you're bitching about it"

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randomusers239874 10 points ago +11 / -1

I would say that's true, but then that also means we get to defend ourselves, right?

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DeplorableSpic3 10 points ago +11 / -1

The original “white people” British descendants (mind you not Scots nor Scott-Irish) Protestants and puritans ... have been a minority in the US for more than a hundred years

Then they changed the definition of “white people”

And when that previous definition won’t do anymore ... they’re are already changing the definition of “white people” to include people from all races and creeds that act white ... ergo the current cultural climate

It’s a fungible term because the cruel reality is, that no government can control migration ... it can only make it better or worst ... but it’s coming

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randomusers239874 4 points ago +5 / -1

Except that "white" has a valid definition when looking at genetic distances between ethnicities (i.e. the British and Irish are very close genetically) but not when looking at just skin color or country of origin. The people who invented the notion of race were correct in their observations, but got the details a bit wrong because genetics hadn't been discovered yet.

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DeplorableSpic3 -8 points ago +1 / -9

That’s your definition and yours alone, you can call it whatever you want

But if you’re in an open forum everyone will scratch their heads because they don’t share your definitions

Getting red in the face accomplishes nothing

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LesboPregnancyScare 2 points ago +2 / -0

Remember in US history when Italians, Irish, Poles, and various other now considered "white people" were not considered "white people"?

Europeans spent their entire recorded history fighting each other, surely everyone has heard of WW1 & 2; white people and everyone else fighting everyone including against white people. Communist expansion: white people conquering white people. What about the war in Bosnia in the 90s; white people vs white people, which created 6 different countries out of formerly 1, which if pedes remember, a peace deal was brokered just last year between two groups. The so called white unification isnt real.

But for some reason now, "white people" are labeled as a unified group who provides privileges to each other by ignorant race bating retards.

You know who else hates their own "race"? All races. The Koreans hate the Japanese, Filipinos hate the Japanese, The Japanese hate the Chinese.

Cubans hate Venezuelans, Peruvians hate Hondurans, Mexicans hate Guatemalans. Argentinians hate everyone else in south and central america.

The above are all generalities of course.

There is no racial unity like these race baiters claim. Not for white people, not for any other race.

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DeplorableSpic3 0 points ago +1 / -1

You are enlightened in a forest of darkness ... surrounded by the blind

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ConfiscationCrenshaw 8 points ago +9 / -1

Modern Christians are fucking pussies. Our preachers are all jokes. Few stand up for America. Duck Dynasty has done more to bring glory to American and God than these feckless mega churches who stand on the cross of Christ to peddle books to their pulpit.

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LesboPregnancyScare 2 points ago +2 / -0

modern preachers are part of the globohomos now. inclusivity and all that bs, female priests, gays in the clergy.....

christianity doesnt mean shit anymore unless it is orthodox. And I am only making that claim about orthodox because I am assuming, it too may be cucked.

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TrumpJudo 6 points ago +9 / -3

Read the jewish onslaught by Dr. Tony Martin. It will blow your mind.

People just can't handle the truth. Brainwashed since birth. They will watch their own get slaughtered and not make a peep but say something mean about jews and they snap into defensive anger.

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TexasVet [S] -1 points ago +3 / -4

The Goyim know.

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BigBadBrutus 1 point ago +3 / -2

The ones that know mostly won't even say it they're so scared.

Just go on Twitter and find out how often they shift from white to Jewish and back when it helps their narrative.

Thousands and thousands of "white supremacy must be stopped blablabla".

A week later, same person. Says they're Jewish, the best at everything, and not to be confused with the white supremacists.

Barbara Lerner Specter is not even close to the tip of the iceberg, no pun intended.

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2024x 5 points ago +6 / -1

2+2=5???smh

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philnmdg 5 points ago +6 / -1

Don't forget the whites in South Africa too

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Kmicanakreku 5 points ago +6 / -1

Western European countries for sure. French and German cities are shitholes only small towns and rural areas are still European.

Eastern Europe is still Europe and you can actually walk the streets at night.

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My2Cents 4 points ago +5 / -1

Watch the movie Gangs of New York to see what a multicultural utopia the US was in the past the left so romanticizes.

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BigIronBigIron 1 point ago +2 / -1

Then read about how Tammany Hall functioned and see if you notice a pattern

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My2Cents 1 point ago +2 / -1

Tammany Hall still functions in NY

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BigIronBigIron 0 points ago +2 / -2

Our immigration system is still designed for machine politics

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TheWestYearZero -1 points ago +1 / -2

That was just a movie...a mentally disturbed movie.

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My2Cents 2 points ago +3 / -1
  • historically accurate movie
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Jericho-Trompete 1 point ago +2 / -1

Agree 100%, some people watch movies like reading a history book, and even books lie, it depends who wrote it. Sadly, most people believe that movies are historically accurate. A kid who watch the new movie about Anne Boleyn, will think she was black! https://deadline.com/2021/02/jodie-turner-smith-anne-boleyn-first-look-1234692108/

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KingSweyn 4 points ago +7 / -3

Makes you a white supremacist and an anti-semite. If your objection to this genocide is persistent and intelligent, it's only a matter of time before you agree that Hitler failed us by being too nice. The history of his communist-deprogramming labor camps was rewritten by his enemies, all of our enemies really, and it became their ultimate aegis against all criticism and the new foundation for our intersocial morality.

So if our postwar society is founded on anti-Hitlerism, and you're sick of this gay and black and trans bullshit being shoved down your throat around every corner, and Hitler was sick of the gay and trans bullshit being pushed down his people's throats around every corner, well... you do the fucking math.

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TexasVet [S] 1 point ago +3 / -2

Maybe he was right.

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NoNewFrens 1 point ago +3 / -2

Fact check: he was 100% right

Study what Germany was prior to his rise. Its 100% just like what's going on here.

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Psilocybik 1 point ago +2 / -1

Then one day for no reason at all...

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BigIronBigIron 4 points ago +4 / -0

#1 on the list are the reason for this

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Crappydatum 3 points ago +3 / -0

Actually, Jews will be a minority in Israel. Birth rates

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Patriot11Retiree 3 points ago +3 / -0

More importantly, there was no government assistance at the time. Many struggled and many died. There were no open arms welcoming them with freebies.

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Durdurdurkistan 3 points ago +4 / -1

Soros' revenge on Hitler is ruining white nations.

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MAGACountryResident 3 points ago +3 / -0

And majority of immigrants were white Europeans. Shocking how white European is the most populace groups in America.

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Former_Libtard 3 points ago +3 / -0

RESIST ✊🏻

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G_regulator 2 points ago +2 / -0

Western society's are the only multicultural society's. Everyother society is essentially and ethno state, but it's the western society's that are lable white supremacists.....

No muslim supremacy ? No asian supremacy? No african supremacy? Just white supremacy.

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Hangemh1gh 2 points ago +2 / -0

And citizen scientists/ inventors.

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OldsmobileRocket 2 points ago +2 / -0

SHUT IT DOWN!

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PNWgirl 2 points ago +2 / -0

Tell them we are a nation built on lots of things, it started with rebellion. 🙂

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StoicSnowPlow 2 points ago +2 / -0

Here's a tough pill for most people here to swallow.

We lost WW2.

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Illinois4Trump 2 points ago +2 / -0

WE WUZ KANGZ

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fthecoup 1 point ago +1 / -0

this^^

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BoughtByBloomberg2 1 point ago +1 / -0

How many immigrants sold themselves in bondage to US companies to come work here for citizenship and a plot of farmland after 7 years? 0? Then they have nothing in common with any American pioneer.

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covfefe_energy 1 point ago +1 / -0

Truth

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patriotvetPA 0 points ago +2 / -2

The left want Jews to be a minority in Israel, too. Will give Iran support to push/bomb them into the Mediterranean.

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newuser999 1 point ago +2 / -1

Why?

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mateus 0 points ago +2 / -2

No, I won't tell them that. What I'll do is explain for the umpteenth time the difference between immigrants and invaders illegal aliens.

BTW, immigrants were a big part of this country's history, and they were NOT all pioneers and conquerors.

The difference lies in immigration law, which has been bastardized to put the needs of aliens before those of Americans. It used to be that, in addition to proving that they wouldn't become a public charge, immigrants had to be of value to the U. S.

Now, they come here with their hands out (waving the flags of their native countries), which is why we're turning into a third-world banana boat republic.

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Mememagic4all -5 points ago +1 / -6

Worry about the ideals not the skin color more biracial and multiracial are become more prominent.

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CJBarnacle 2 points ago +3 / -1

Ideals are genetic.

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samjacksonmad -7 points ago +1 / -8

No mention of the Native Americas???? Revisionist much???

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BigIronBigIron 1 point ago +3 / -2

Everything south of the Grand River belongs to them

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trauncher -8 points ago +1 / -9

America is a nation of LEGAL immigrants.

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randomusers239874 6 points ago +7 / -1

White immigrants. Legal immigration is just as bad as illegal immigration.

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CJBarnacle 5 points ago +6 / -1

"We will be ethnically replaced...but LEGALLY." - cuckservatives

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Take_it_back -15 points ago +2 / -17

The ethnic makeup of this country isn’t important. It’s the culture and ideals that make up the fabric of our nation. And our broken immigration policies are putting that in jeopardy. Our universities are arguably doing more damage by undermining that same cultural substrate amongst white liberals. I’ll take a hard working Mexican American over a retarded white anarchist.

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randomusers239874 5 points ago +9 / -4

There is no such thing as magic dirt. Civic nationalism is for scientifically illiterate cucks; genes are the primary factor in group behavior, not culture.

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Take_it_back -3 points ago +2 / -5

And you prefer what, ethnic nationalism?

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randomusers239874 3 points ago +6 / -3

AngryNordYes.jpg

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Take_it_back -1 points ago +4 / -5

So I guess that’s a yes. I don’t think trump is a fan of that ideology. In fact I’m pretty sure he’s strongly opposed. So why are you at the Donald instead of the hitler?

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randomusers239874 2 points ago +6 / -4

Every non-white country and ethnicity gets to be ethno-nationalist, but as soon as a white person wants to be it's "Oy vey, you're hitler!"

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Take_it_back -4 points ago +2 / -6

I’m not a fan of any of them. I think it’s a big problem in China with the Han majority. The rest of the world does innumerable stupid things that we don’t want to emulate.

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randomusers239874 -1 points ago +3 / -4

And yet, they're beating us, wouldn't you agree?

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Mememagic4all -5 points ago +4 / -9

Let leave the strong focus on race to the racist democrats. It’s the culture and ideals that make up the fabric of our nation. And our broken immigration policies are putting that in jeopardy. Exactly my thought

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Take_it_back -2 points ago +4 / -6

These guys aren’t maga. They are just grifting racists trying to parasitize trumps maga energy while riding his coattails. They aren’t about winning, they just want converts to their twisted and losing ideology. If this place is for trump supporters then people who espouse things that are so antithetical to trumps values should go make their own movement and stop poisoning ours.

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Psilocybik -2 points ago +1 / -3

Trump pandered to minorities. Look where that got him.

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Take_it_back 1 point ago +2 / -1

His strategy was sound. His message was solid and it spoke to people of all backgrounds. And it got him a landslide victory hat was only overcome by historic cheating. If you don’t like trump why are you here?