Since the pharmaceutical industry is immune from liability I asked my doctor if he gives me the vaccine can I sue him under his medical malpractice insurance for $1 million if anything goes wrong.
He advised me it’s best I not take the vaccine
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We've found our loophole. Now watch them close it!
In fact, man/woman can write an affidavit of status and have it notarized and sent to any doctor (man or woman). In that affidavit, you can hold them liable for any trespass against your body. You aren't kidding. It's not a loophole. It's common law.
SPEZ: https://iamhassentmetoyou.com/
Another "loophole" is employers requiring it or compelling it or creating a hostile environment to demand it, let alone airlines or other companies demanding it. It's not even approved, by the FDA for anything but emergency use and there is no emergency. Anyone with half a brain is goin to STFU about the vaccine unless they want to be sued. I GUARANTEE there are mountains of lawsuits being put together RIGHT NOW.
I just heard of an attorney in NY asking people to go to the homes where their loved ones died of the covid and gather all relevant medical records and file a wrongful death complaint with the police office so that he can work with people and identify lawsuits because HIPPA prevents him from finding people.
This is happening to me, I was called out at a staff meeting, in front of my colleagues, and questioned regarding why I hadn't made an appointment to get it.
Excellent example of HIPAA violation in the workplace!
That sounds like the military, but if not, 1) why would they know and 2) how did you respond.
You clearly had to deal with it already, but for anyone else, I would simply state that you make it a point not to discuss matters of personal health with others and that it is highly inappropriate and very much illegal to further ask an even remotely related question about your health.
It's a private tech company. The way it played out is they sent a list to employees of the small towns within an hour's drive which have an excess of vaccines. They urged us to make an appointment. Then they started asking "have you made an appointment?" once or twice a week (to me, I haven't heard them saying it to anyone else).
I was caught off guard at the staff meeting and said I wasn't cutting in line, I'm 48 and healthy, not fat, I don't have diabetes and I'll get around to it maybe by the summer. I said I don't really have a problem with the viral vector vaccines (I don't) and will wait until those have been around for a year or so. They challenged me and said it's not as effective, I should get the mRNA one. I said I'll think about it, I wanted it to end. I'm actually going to memorize your last sentence, it's well worded and I'll use it if it happens again.
I'm working very hard to build an off-ramp so I can leave this place. I loved working there for a time but around summer of last year my boss began broadcasting his TDS loud and proud and it has become untenable to stay.
Edit to add: I had surgery on 2/1 and due to the nature of it (lady parts) I was advised by my surgeon not to get it until my post op next week. If I get mild symptoms and cough, it could be problematic for me. Obviously I was mortified about having to explain to my colleagues about this, none of this is any of their business.
Sue the shit out of them. You'll win.
On a side note; I would start keeping a paper journal or some digital service that creates immutable (unchangeable) date stamps/files about the events with dates, times, and people involved. But don't just write direct things down like when they asked you personally things, also include related things like their general mention of health matters in staff meetings, etc. in order to add credibility by having a rolling journal in which the specific offending events happen if that were ever necessary. Worst case is that you will not need it if you keep it. Worst case if you don't keep the journal is that you will be left exposed with no proof of what is likely a hostile environment .
That's good advice, thanks. I'm also recording our zoom calls with quicktime so it's not obvious I'm doing it.
Double check that the audio is being recorded. I thought it does not without additional software
Sue and unionize.
I'm going to leave. I wear about 8 hats, they'll need to hire at least 3 people to plug the hole I make when I go.
Unionize for there sake.
Sue and unionize
https://www.pdf-archive.com/2021/03/08/copy-of-reports-of-injury-after-v/copy-of-reports-of-injury-after-v.pdf
How many were not reported on top of all these
Did he say that to SPITE you?
or does he actually think it's a risk?
Doctor don't like fucking around with people threatening to sue them or talk about conspiracy theories.
If he thought it was a risk why would he give it to anybody?
Did you bullshit this story you faking this you make this up for karma cool guy?
Yeah, your average doctor doesn't care what you chose to do as long they did their due diligence. Only the doctors that are associated with the government in some way seem keen on forcing it on people.
I hope you get a response, I am very interested in the answer.
Who’s Joan?
Joan Rivers got clinton'd in a botched cosmetic surgery shortly after she said to the news that michael obama was a tranny.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GjWEJdK4y9s
I miss Joan, she has some last balls on her calling out big Mike. So sad they are so full of hate to kill her for it.
How do you die from a cosmetic surgery?
The Clinton's and the fbi help.
Who later turned up outside a restaurant without her wig and make up and tried to avoid the camera the moment she saw it. I believe it was with her manager? Been a hot minute.
Wait, what happened?
Joan Rivers I'm assuming. Murdered for calling Micheal a tranny.
Oh yes! I bet you are right. RIP JOAN
Joan was always good for a laugh.
How are you going to ask what he thought was going on the doctor's head? It is easily best to assume that the doctor doesn't want to deal with a difficult person rather than thinking this doctor was acting in accordance to morality. Smh, really, expecting someone to be psychic?
typical moron
There’s no reason to take a vaccine that changes your genetic structure with an unknown outcome of side effects for a treatable virus. Anyone who gets this vaccine is stupid and will probably die. We don’t even know if this vaccine will change the way our bodies respond to viruses we already cured. I’ll take my risk of possibly catching it and being treated, over taking a shot that may kill me in the next 28 days.
28 days later: 28 Days Later
Apparently we're supposed to believe that it genetically modifies your cells to present COVID protein spikes on the surface, and do it only once. But even then that's a problem, because the COVID protein spikes themselves are physically harmful to epithelial cells and damage the blood brain barrier. These protein spikes are what effectively allows COVID to pass the blood brain barrier, and the "vaccine" is a gene mod that literally makes your cells produce those harmful protein spikes. So these protein spikes are not just harmless identification markers for the immune system, they're actually part of the harmful element of COVID.
What this means is there can be a wide range of long term illness effects brought about by the "vaccine". From auto immune issues to a compromised blood brain barrier that allows things through that shouldn't be, which can lead to a plethora of neurological issues.
5, 10, 20 years from now people may have a name for these illnesses: Fauci Syndrome.
In fact, this may actually be the true biological warfare intent of the virus. Create a virus where the thing you use to identify it, is the thing that will cause the most long lasting harm, so that when your enemy tries to vaccinate against it, they are effectively trojan horsing themselves. The long term side effects could effectively cripple the populace.
Just curious, where did you get that the spikes encoded by RNA vaccines become integrated into the external membrane of host cells? I've just read that they encode the spike, but not where they go (such that some are excreted and detected in plasma and then detected everywhere, I assumed).
Also never heard that this was related to passing the blood brain barrier. If true, whether the artificial spikes get attached to something else in the blood and allow improper BBB penetration is important. But going on the past comment that you said they will be on the extracellular surface of cells, it does not seem likely that entire cells would migrate into the brain. My understanding is the spike allows binding to cellular membranes and entry by endocytosis. In general, that is something we should study more before allowing in a vaccine. Might be many things that could go wrong if it gets mixed up with the wrong proteins at the wrong place, but I'm unsure what about the BBB is a particular risk.
That's kind of the problem, we don't know exactly how these spike proteins are being presented. From what I've read, it's immune system cells that are made to present the spike protein, and obviously these cells are able to move throughout the body. Either way, the spike protein itself is a problem, whether it's regular cells excreting it or immune cells presenting it. Especially since epithelial tissue is found all over, not just at the blood brain barrier.
Just a few random articles on the spike protein and BBB connection.
https://www.templehealth.org/about/news/sars-cov-2-spike-proteins-disrupt-the-blood-brain-barrier-potentially-raising-risk-of-neurological-damage-in-covid-19-patients
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41593-020-00771-8 https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/10/201029141941.htm
And I think a lot of the side effects we've seen with the "vaccine" make a lot of sense when you consider the spike protein and epithelial tissue interaction. We've also had cases where people were given more doses than prescribed, and they immediately had severe reactions just from the extra dose, so clearly, the extra dose causes extra spike protein generation, which then becomes enough for the spike protein problem to be seen in full force.
Thanks for the info.
About the immune cells presenting it, I think naturally they are involved and respond to it, but did not see anything indicating they'll be the ones infected with the vaccine to produce the spike. I haven't been able to dig up actual studies or data that indicates what cells will take the vaccine and make the antigen. Which is a stunning thing. I would expect this to have been studied. I can't even find information about the carrier for the antigenic encoding sequence after searching. One link said it was taken up by the cells at the injection site, indicating it is random and non-specific. https://medicalxpress.com/news/2021-01-covid-vaccine-critical.html
This is the only place I've found something that indicates how the gene mod works:
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/different-vaccines/mrna.html
"COVID-19 mRNA vaccines are given in the upper arm muscle. Once the instructions (mRNA) are inside the immune cells, the cells use them to make the protein piece".
The question is....is it only immune cells that are affected....and they say it triggers an immune response, but they try to dance around what an immune response entails: The immune cells attacking whatever cells they're targeting. So how much internal damage is this doing? If it's passing the blood brain barrier and potentially getting into brain cells....that could potentially trigger an immune response against brain cells. Depending on where in the body the spike protein presents itself, it could potentially lead to things like nerve damage, brain damage, etc. And that would explain the bells palsy side effect, if enough damage was done to specific areas, even if randomly.
"To keep the mRNA from disintegrating when it enters the body, the COVID-19 vaccines use fat bubbles to shuttle the mRNA to certain cells."
I'm not sure how it would be discriminate enough to only affect immune cells, especially since it is just fat bubbles. Seems to me that as soon as these "fat bubbles" come into contact with any cells lipid layer, it would effectively be absorbed into the cell where the mRNA can do its work. So unless there's another component to the "vaccine" like nano robots, I don't see how it would be able to target only immune cells.
And none of this gets around the problem with the spike protein itself. They say it's harmless, yet as we've seen in those links about the BBB issue with COVID, it's not really harmless since it's on record as compromising the BBB, which means it can also compromise the same processes that take place in other cells such as organs, nerves, etc.
On top of that, it's not like one cell will be given just one piece of code. So what happens when a single cell, even if just an immune cell, is given many copies of the code to make the spike protein? It seems like eventually it would have to shed/flake off that protein, which effectively means you would end up with spike protein free floating through the body, that can end up anywhere, on any cell....cells that the immune system will then target.
Nov 27 2020: mRna, “Will an RNA Vaccine Permanently Alter My DNA?” https://sciencewithdrdoug.com/2020/11/27/will-an-rna-vaccine-permanently-alter-my-dna/
I think a lot of things can potentially go wrong, though to me some of the ideas in the blog seem less likely than most speculation.
The idea that vaccine RNA can be integrated by endogenous retroviruses is very unlikely, I think. If I remember right, only one family has activity in humans. HERV-K appears to be the only active one. Usually in cancer, or as the link suggested, stem cells (though to what degree in stem cells I'm not sure). Mainly, RNA induced expression systems are used in induced-pluripotent stem cells very often. The expression invariably remains transient, even when researchers don't like it to. Researchers likely would have noticed this, even by accident, at this point, and the experiments have been done to trillions of cells for different experiments over years.
Actually, one reason why this may not happen relates to one of the things I consider a cause to worry about side effects. When your cells is infected with RNA, part of the immune response is the destruction of that cell. It's not all just an antibody-based immunity. Presumably, a cell permanently expressing the spike antigen will be eventually destroyed. The bad thing about that idea is the random cell destruction that occurs could be harmful in a variety of ways.
The other idea about splicing into another virus that was infecting the same cell is beyond my expertise, but I haven't heard of viruses co-opting other elements that are not a stable part of the genome. It could be a freak accident occurrence, but IMO far less likely than the other things that go wrong.
Everyone dies. You will too. But your point still stands. Why would anyone want to be forced to take an experimental biological agent that they don't know the long term effects of that still lets you catch and spread the virus you're trying to get rid of is beyond me when you can treat it with readily available, cheap, and deemed safe medicines that have been studied for decades if you are worried about being one of the 0.03% of people who aren't able to get over this virus without any treatment at all.
Not to mention that all this mass vaccination is forcing this active virus to latch onto new mutations that will allow it to spread easier and be more dangerous than it would have been if we went about our daily lives without all this mass hysteria
I have a friend , Healthy, skinny, 48, with Bell’s palsy now a week after second dose.
Some people can't be persuaded into avoiding the vaccine until they or someone close to them dies.
“Some people can't be persuaded into avoiding the vaccine until they or someone close to them dies.”. They are the same people who can’t be talked out of voting Democrap, too.
Most published reports have family still supporting the vaccine despite a close family member dying after receiving the experimental vaccine . 🤡 🌎
Good line of inquiry. Nothing cuts through the bullshit like a massive monetary risk.
Well done!
We're living in a full Honk world.
My neighbour who, one would think, is intelligent (he's a paleontologist who isn't unemployed) stole from me. I literally had to yell at a man twice my age and explain to him that if you come onto my property and take something without me knowing, it's theft. (a furnace)
He tried to argue that he thought I was throwing it out. He actually argued that "He thought I thought it was worthless garbage.. and so..." Basically because he thought it still had value and he surmised that I didn't want it.. he would liberate it and give it a new home.
After explaining the basics of the law and what constitutes trespassing and theft.. and explaining the general rule of thumb that you ASK for something in exchange for something else (typically) at least giving me the opportunity to say "No, it's ok you can have it for free"... without giving me that opportunity it's theft... he still wouldn't agree he 'stole' anything and offered to bring it back.
I don't know how we're going to get through this if actual 'intellectuals' can't understand that if you rob a bank and bring the money back later and say sorry its still a crime committed. Even if you break into my house and take milk from the fridge because you thought I wasn't going to drink it.
The intellectuals are rarely
I would definitely press charges. Maybe he'll become a little more educated about how things work. I'm sure he'll use his same logic with the police. We'll see how that works out for him.
He owns the farm around the corner from me, and I need to use his tractor this summer... to haul some massive trees out of a ravine
SO...
I'm gonna let it slide this time. I just had to assert male dominance and now it's all good. He showed up yelling and by the end he was offering me money and apologies..
There is being neighborly and there is theft. A visit from the police should help him better understand the difference.
Normally I'd agree but Intend to use his tractor this summer and don't want to quite burn that bridge yet.
Was it on the curb? Dont kno bout the rest of the country but here in Florida,, thats the way. Garbage on the curb is considered public & It is common for people go around scrapping for metal or picking up a table someone has set out.
No it was beside the house, behind my dump trailer, on top of my scrap metal pile... (I bought the property and have slowly been throwing anything metal into a big pile.. Furnace from inside the house included).. (we're talking ~80-100metres from the road)
Only reason he knew it was there was because he came over to chat while I was hauling it out of the house... said at the time it could be re-used to heat someone's garage... I didn't deny that as a fact but certainly never said he could take it.
We were getting a ton of snow one night and he made an executive decision to go 'save it' from snow damage... but forgot to make the executive decision to text me he was doing it.
Sounds like a pretty clear case of trespassing
Oh yeah, for sure.
It's the middle of bumfucknowhere and typically people in the country understand exactly what they're doing - regardless of the excuses they have
Is he a foriegner?
You can't sue the company that made the vaccine if you have an adverse effect.
Which was the immediate red flag to me. As soon as I saw that the manufacturers and the government can't be held liable for side effects of the vaccine, I knew it was bullshit.
You can still sue, it's just in the form of a claim made to the National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program instead of a lawsuit against the manufacturer.
Vaccines are low profit-margin, the 1980s had a wave of anti-vaccine hysteria (the one for whooping cough, I think), and the lawsuits inundating manufacturers and their insurers created a financial incentive to just stop producing it, and there were huge shortages of a perfectly safe vaccine.
Shielding manufacturers from idiot parents so that the rest of society could access the vaccines it needed seemed like the simplest solution.
I'm not pro-vaccine at all, but the normal process protects the people making the drug from liability with extensive testing that they couldn't do to rush this to the market. The drug companies would be fools to accept all of the liability without charging much, much more. That said, knowing that I'm amazed at how many people who aren't at all at risk want to be guinea pigs.
Which I get, completely. Usually there are multiple levels of testing and waiting for results. I don't want to take this because of how rushed it is. Also, there's no one to hold liable for issues. It's just "Take it and accept it" instead of "This has been properly tested and verified to not be harmful".
You and u/Olds77 have pretty much nailed this line of discussion. A vax company would be utterly stupid to accept liability, and if it was compelled to, the vaccines would be out of reach price-wise (the war chest to defend against the inevitable lawsuits needs to be built from somewhere and it sure as shit wouldn't come out of past profits). If the government forced price restrictions, the vax companies simply wouldn't produce a vaccine. There is simply too much risk. So I get the no liability thing. Still, that's not my problem, my problem is with my risk, and the risk my family takes on with this vaccine. My wife and I are in our 40's. We have a twenty-something and a teenager. My wife and I are extremely fit and healthy. I already had and beat Covid. She never got it. There's no reason for us to take it even if it did work (which is doubtful). My kids are another story entirely. I don't want either of them sitting on the couch in 30 years when an infomercial comes on and asks "Did you or a loved take the Moderna Covid-19 vaccine and have been diagnosed with or died from [whatever]? Please call our law offices immediately, you may be entitled to financial compensation."
1986 was the turning-point year:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Childhood_Vaccine_Injury_Act
Because, at the time, Pharma was threatening to stop producing all vaccines due to injury claims and awards going through the roof. Remember the millions awarded for the hot coffee I spilled on myself?
Or more recently, suing the power company for fires when every move they made to reduce the problem was refused by the 'regulators' and the tree huggers?
I don't even think it will be 30 years. I'm thinking it will be more like 10.
With the rate things are going, I suspect that your estimate will be much closer to the truth. Hell, it might even be generously long.
Honestly, I'm surprised people who have had adverse effects from this shit haven't already sued the shit out of the doctors/nurses who injected them. If I was forced to get an injection, I'd be video recording the whole thing, then taking photos of the doctors/nurses badges and names of everyone involved. I wouldn't sign shit and would basically say "Just so you know, if anything bad happens from this, like bells palsy, swollen lymph nodes, stroke, heart attack, serious illness, etc, I'll be holding you and your staff personally and financially responsible.
Because its been "set up" that way. Just as it has been "set up" it can be dismantled the same way. I vote we do just that.
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My son is a pharmacy tech at Walgreens and I asked him if he will be liable if someone dies if he gives them the vaccine? Then I asked how does he feel about killing ppl with the vaccine? He rolled his eyes at me.
See how logic becomes distorted when there is massive $$ on the line? In this I mean to Mr. Gates and Mr. Fauci with Modernas investment in vaccine development. Just look at the patents on these and you will soon see who benefits every time a vaccination is administered. Its certainly not your son receiving financial benefit but he is administering without disclosure which passes penalty to all those involved in the deception which could (and has) already been associated with death. Ignorance is no excuse when harm is caused.
Neither the vaccine maker not the administrator (doctor/clinic/nurse) can be hed liable for any vaccine given in the US, period, whether it's flu, covid, polio, etc. This has been the case for decades. Your only recourse is through a government fund, and good luck to you with that. You'll spend years fighting to get a pittance. It shocks me how few people know this. It used to be called the national vaccine act, name has changed but you can still search under the old one.
Have you seen this one? “Dr. James Lyons-Weiler at PA Medical Freedom Press Conference 10/20/20” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OoeCB0MudgA&feature=youtu. be Summary: Shame on those who politicize health just to attach Trump. The wild virus pathogenic priming. Dr predicted the physical results we see from Pathogenic Priming. He emailed the companies to take out the unsafe stuff but they refused (but the poison is Trumps fault? Nah) animal trials skipped on these vaccine thanks to FDA. Older mrna testing had been done with bad results. No new testing. 21% of people are having series side effects from this vaccine. Additionally: Chemicals being used to clean schools cause neural tube defects and 50% sterilization for two additional generations in mice. Dr admits they tried to bribe him on the vaccine injury court. You can’t win there. Government agency policing itself.
I just will not take it.
I will bring this up when my employer makes it mandatory
Its coming....better get your ducks lined up in anticipation.
If you ask a doctor if THEY recommend getting the shot, how are they supposed to respond? You know they'll pull a "CDC/WHO" but if you ask them if as a health professional they personally recommend taking the vaccine, would they actually recommend it?
Well, that was the short conversation I had with my Doctor. I don't know why he advised not getting it. But the long conversation included my questions about, what specifically was in it? What impact do each of the ingredients have on my short and long term health? Has it been tested with animals as typical vaccines are? Once the shot is in me, how will it be expelled and can you guarantee my body will expel it? Why did the last flu shot I got give me a horrible fever with all the effects and why would this be different? Is it really a vaccine or gene therapy? If my immune system is good, why should I need it? Does it prevent getting COVID 19 or spreading it? Have you studied the side effects we have read about and are you comfortable with it?
He did not really want to talk about the detail. So.
what if its not throught your doctor? My work is making everyone get the vaccine, i absolutely do not want to. But this would be through like the state or something not my actual doctor.
Are they willing to accept the financial liability? It's still the same question. So far, they do not have immunity.
Smart man your MD.
In my business if someone even asks what my refund policy is in the event of a cancellation I never respond to them again. If someone is asking that question they are setting the stage for trouble. If I was a doctor I would say the same thing. This is a brilliant move.
I always thought honesty was the best policy, by both the customer and the provider.
I have a consent form I downloaded years ago to give to my sons physician, transferring liability to him should my child be injured by a vaccine. I need to find it. I did a quick search online and it’s so crowded with Covid info. If I can find it I’ll link it here. It’s amazing. No dr would ever sign it.
Please do. I was going to create one, but I'm not a lawyer, and it would only suffice for intimidation.
great question!
Honest answer.
TBF if you were not going to die from CCP, the vaccine isnt gonna kill you any faster. my problem with it is why bother when according to them, it wont stop the CCP virus if you take it
My father and mother both took the vaccine. Father has sudden onset debilitating pain in the arm he got injected in. So bad you can hear him screaming from pain when he tries to move out of his bed. He's currently thinking he needs to go to the doctor to see what is wrong.
The vaccine makes your cells produce COVID protein spikes for your immune system to identify as a marker. The problem is, those protein spikes naturally damage/interfere with the functions of epithelial tissue. Epithelial tissues are widespread throughout the body. They form the covering of all body surfaces, line body cavities and hollow organs, and are the major tissue in glands. They perform a variety of functions that include protection, secretion, absorption, excretion, filtration, diffusion, and sensory reception.
On top of that, since your body is literally turning cells into foreign invaders the immune system is meant to identify as a threat.....well obviously those cells will be attacked, effectively inducing an auto immune system illness.
Another problem is if those with weak immune systems don't actually see these cells as a threat, then they are effectively not immunized....and then those cells are freely making harmful COVID protein spikes that don't get dealt with and essentially become poison factories.
yeah it's a big leap of faith to assume it works as intended, but mrna altering injections have some pretty good uses if done right imo, like maybe we can get cells to make vitamin C.
It gives them a physical list of those who are compliant and willing to go with any bullshit they spout off with. They'll use those lists to sort out the haves and the have nots.
These people would disagree:
200mgb 124 pages social media post vaccine reactions and deaths, https://files.catbox.moe/vkazdp.pdf confirmation articles: “Once you’ve chosen hope, anything is possible.” https://archive.ph/7WbAs https://archive.ph/Spp67
This is my plan.
Kek
Genius!
I was told only pharmacies and clinics can give the vaccine, not doctors. I assumed it was so the doctors could have liability protection.
Is it just my state or is this true everywhere?
I would never go to a pharmacy or have anyone other than my doctor use a hypodermic needle on me. If it became mandatory, I would get my doctor to exempt me or have the pharmacy answer all my questions and assume financial responsibility for any ill effects. My lawyer can draft the assumption of liability papers for them to sign.
If police are to be held accountable for doing their jobs then so can the medical professionals.
Plunging a needle into a specific part of the body is a pretty simple task that doesn't require a lengthy medical degree to do properly.
Are you saying a nurse has never given you a shot before? I doubt that.
Biden allows dentist, veterinary and nurse in training to give vaccines: https://i.maga.host/Oc56r74.png