Well - as a person who grew up with the cold war from the weapons side - what was practiced in the 50s was done primarily before 3 megaton thermonukes were widespread.
Collapsing buildings and glass flying outside the hypocenter were the biggest risk in Japan - and those who did get under tables did fare well (not counting wind patterns and fallout).
The same rule applies to bigger bombs too - but the zone where it's effective (outside the hypocenter) is obviously much further.
Ask me sometime about other factors that affect blast dynamics, like topography, weather, airburst vs groundburst, mitigating radiation exposure on your body (iodine is your friend), time to impact and more.
(source : my father worked on 3 nuclear missile programs Atlas, Titan II, and Nike-Zeus (defensive, but nuclear armed) - oh the places you'll glow (if a nukewar breaks out)
Actually, hiding under your desk works better for the bigger thermonuclear bombs. Yes, the radius where the heat and blast kill you is larger... but also the radius of the zone where the blast doesn’t kill you but it does damage structures goes up as well. Since area is a function of radius squared, there are actually many more kids in the zone where getting under the desk to protect from flying glass and falling fixtures makes sense as you increase the bomb yield.
Well - as a person who grew up with the Covid war from the weaklings side - what was practiced in the 2020's was done primarily before 3 Pandemic Covid Variants were widespread. Family gatherings and people having fun outside were the biggest risk in America - and those who did get inside their face diapers did fare well (not counting actual deaths and sickness).
The same rules applies to masks too - but the zone where they were effective (outside the social distancing) is obviously much further. Ask me sometime about other factors that mitigate infection dynamics, like race riots, political ideology, minimum wage, singing in a church vs shouting in a crowd, mitigating covid exposure on your body (hydroxychloroquine is not your friend), time to slow the spread and more.
(source : my wife's son worked on 3 CDC programs: Covid-19, Trumpovirus II, and Orange Man Virus - oh the nursing homes you'll go to (if the Coof War breaks out again)
Sorry - loved your comments, couldn't help myself spoofing them from a leftist "science" based perspective.
I'm sorry -I meant to delete that after I wrote it. Being in a foul mood is no excuse to dump or buzz-bomb on someone making (what I thought too) was a good joke.
I will say this - the anniversary of it happening this week has probably impacted me more than I'd like to admit. Ty for the kind words - you're a good-un.
(it does feel good to purge on the screen tho - just don't hit enter or have the delete key handy)
I just had a talk about this with my 9yo daughter. She had just done Active Shooter drills, and I asked, how would you stop an active shooter? She immediately said, armed guards at the entrances. She then realized, the drills must be for some other reason.
We also discussed that there is one first world nation that has armed guards at their doors, and they have not experienced a shooting since.
Being under the desk wasn't supposed to protect you from the bomb. It was supposed to protect you from flying debris and possible building collapse from the shockwave. They are nothing alike.
Well - as a person who grew up with the cold war from the weapons side - what was practiced in the 50s was done primarily before 3 megaton thermonukes were widespread.
Collapsing buildings and glass flying outside the hypocenter were the biggest risk in Japan - and those who did get under tables did fare well (not counting wind patterns and fallout).
The same rule applies to bigger bombs too - but the zone where it's effective (outside the hypocenter) is obviously much further.
Ask me sometime about other factors that affect blast dynamics, like topography, weather, airburst vs groundburst, mitigating radiation exposure on your body (iodine is your friend), time to impact and more.
(source : my father worked on 3 nuclear missile programs Atlas, Titan II, and Nike-Zeus (defensive, but nuclear armed) - oh the places you'll glow (if a nukewar breaks out)
Actually, hiding under your desk works better for the bigger thermonuclear bombs. Yes, the radius where the heat and blast kill you is larger... but also the radius of the zone where the blast doesn’t kill you but it does damage structures goes up as well. Since area is a function of radius squared, there are actually many more kids in the zone where getting under the desk to protect from flying glass and falling fixtures makes sense as you increase the bomb yield.
Well - as a person who grew up with the Covid war from the weaklings side - what was practiced in the 2020's was done primarily before 3 Pandemic Covid Variants were widespread. Family gatherings and people having fun outside were the biggest risk in America - and those who did get inside their face diapers did fare well (not counting actual deaths and sickness).
The same rules applies to masks too - but the zone where they were effective (outside the social distancing) is obviously much further. Ask me sometime about other factors that mitigate infection dynamics, like race riots, political ideology, minimum wage, singing in a church vs shouting in a crowd, mitigating covid exposure on your body (hydroxychloroquine is not your friend), time to slow the spread and more.
(source : my wife's son worked on 3 CDC programs: Covid-19, Trumpovirus II, and Orange Man Virus - oh the nursing homes you'll go to (if the Coof War breaks out again)
Sorry - loved your comments, couldn't help myself spoofing them from a leftist "science" based perspective.
Is your wife's son dead too? My father died last year.
You have my sympathies. A large part of who we are is due to good parents.
I'm sorry -I meant to delete that after I wrote it. Being in a foul mood is no excuse to dump or buzz-bomb on someone making (what I thought too) was a good joke.
I will say this - the anniversary of it happening this week has probably impacted me more than I'd like to admit. Ty for the kind words - you're a good-un.
(it does feel good to purge on the screen tho - just don't hit enter or have the delete key handy)
You are a cretin. Nukes are not magic, leveling everything for miles around.
The damage from a nuke depends greatly upon the size of the blast, the height of detonation, and your distance from ground zero.
Oh, and the construction of the building you're in.
Hiding under desks helps protect against shattered glass and other debris.
I agree. I know this is being used to show how stupid people are but depending on how far away you are from the detonation, this could save your life.
Yup, experiencing shattered glass and debris from the shockwave is more likely than being in the immediate blast radius.
It was a fear project for public awareness then, it’s the same now.
Spot on.
I just had a talk about this with my 9yo daughter. She had just done Active Shooter drills, and I asked, how would you stop an active shooter? She immediately said, armed guards at the entrances. She then realized, the drills must be for some other reason.
We also discussed that there is one first world nation that has armed guards at their doors, and they have not experienced a shooting since.
Which third world country was the bottom photo taken in?
I can't stop focusing on the angle at the top
To be fair you ever messed with them desk? They made stuff to last not like today.
Or it wasn't nuclear bombs... just school shooters.
the more things change....
Does it work for earthquakes?
Being under the desk wasn't supposed to protect you from the bomb. It was supposed to protect you from flying debris and possible building collapse from the shockwave. They are nothing alike.
Except... Desks do protect you from flying shrapnel?
If you are in the epicenter, it doesn't matter, but there's a huge blast area where flying debris is the main danger.