I meant your comment. "Omg he doesn't agree with either group of opinions that both originated near the far ends of their respective ideologies?! This is what he deserves for not getting into one camp or the other!!"
That's some mentally weak shit.
The Overton window did not get shifted by Burr, and trying to make it sound as if you knew better than he about his own opinions, and the tack he chose was incorrect for the reasons you've surmised is hubris.
Attacking the fence sitters is a wonderful way to push them into the arms of our political enemies wholesale.
It doesn't take you being conclusively on one political side or the other to see the problem cancel culture presents. Not everyone who speaks up against cancel culture is a far right activist. That right there is mentally weak shit actually, assuming the two are mutually exclusive. Putting words into my mouth when you have my actual quote is also mentally weak shit. Attacking me instead of my argument is also mentally weak shit. I'm cool to talk with you and address the points and there's a fair debate to be had (I'm not tied to my opinion and I'm perfectly willing to view your side of the debate, minus the bullshit ad homs).
Paying close enough attention to Hollywood, you can actually hear lots of anecdotal evidence of hollywood types who support conservatism or at the very least have criticism of the Hollywood culture or cancel culture, yet they refuse to speak up about it and prefer silence. That means that eventually, regardless of your actual politics, you can become a target of cancel culture for no other reason than being "edgy" about the wrong topic. There's a poem that goes, "First they came for the insert group and I said nothing because I wasn't an insert group..., then they came for me and there was no one to say anything." The point of that poem was to warn that inaction over an injustice can eventually lead to you suffering the same fate.
I don't need anyone to choose a political side per se, but staying silent (fence sitting) is part of the problem. If you say nothing, and go along with a crowd that takes pleasure in shafting the careers of people they disagree with, you know exactly what can happen when you eventually have your own argument with them and they disagree with you. Your choices are to either be a permanent sycophant or meet the risk of being cancelled head on and still probably get cancelled.
I'm not saying it's an easy choice or Burr hasn't been making the choice he believes offers him the most stability, but he is seeing the side effects of the decision he has made (for good or bad). That was my only point. Not saying he deserves it. Just saying this was a not-unforseeable experience for him.
I agree. I don't dislike Burr. I'm just pointing this out more as an example of what happens when cancel culture goes unchecked. It doesn't really matter who the cancelled person is at that point, the saying goes "first they came for Alex Jones and I said nothing because I don't agree with him" and so on.
I do hope this bullshit does wake Burr up. He would do well to use his stage as a stand up comic to go full bore on cancel culture.
This. I don't hate him as much as the thread OP here, but he's paying the price of being a fence sitter and not speaking up.
This is a purity spiral.
Good term for it.
I meant your comment. "Omg he doesn't agree with either group of opinions that both originated near the far ends of their respective ideologies?! This is what he deserves for not getting into one camp or the other!!"
That's some mentally weak shit.
The Overton window did not get shifted by Burr, and trying to make it sound as if you knew better than he about his own opinions, and the tack he chose was incorrect for the reasons you've surmised is hubris.
Attacking the fence sitters is a wonderful way to push them into the arms of our political enemies wholesale.
It doesn't take you being conclusively on one political side or the other to see the problem cancel culture presents. Not everyone who speaks up against cancel culture is a far right activist. That right there is mentally weak shit actually, assuming the two are mutually exclusive. Putting words into my mouth when you have my actual quote is also mentally weak shit. Attacking me instead of my argument is also mentally weak shit. I'm cool to talk with you and address the points and there's a fair debate to be had (I'm not tied to my opinion and I'm perfectly willing to view your side of the debate, minus the bullshit ad homs).
Paying close enough attention to Hollywood, you can actually hear lots of anecdotal evidence of hollywood types who support conservatism or at the very least have criticism of the Hollywood culture or cancel culture, yet they refuse to speak up about it and prefer silence. That means that eventually, regardless of your actual politics, you can become a target of cancel culture for no other reason than being "edgy" about the wrong topic. There's a poem that goes, "First they came for the insert group and I said nothing because I wasn't an insert group..., then they came for me and there was no one to say anything." The point of that poem was to warn that inaction over an injustice can eventually lead to you suffering the same fate.
I don't need anyone to choose a political side per se, but staying silent (fence sitting) is part of the problem. If you say nothing, and go along with a crowd that takes pleasure in shafting the careers of people they disagree with, you know exactly what can happen when you eventually have your own argument with them and they disagree with you. Your choices are to either be a permanent sycophant or meet the risk of being cancelled head on and still probably get cancelled.
I'm not saying it's an easy choice or Burr hasn't been making the choice he believes offers him the most stability, but he is seeing the side effects of the decision he has made (for good or bad). That was my only point. Not saying he deserves it. Just saying this was a not-unforseeable experience for him.
Meh, give the guy a break. He's always been pretty apolitical.
Even if he was a devout and outspoken conservative, this still would have happened to him.
Maybe this bullshit will wake him up though and maybe he will start speaking out against the left.
I agree. I don't dislike Burr. I'm just pointing this out more as an example of what happens when cancel culture goes unchecked. It doesn't really matter who the cancelled person is at that point, the saying goes "first they came for Alex Jones and I said nothing because I don't agree with him" and so on.
I do hope this bullshit does wake Burr up. He would do well to use his stage as a stand up comic to go full bore on cancel culture.