My wife is a healthcare worker and has reported to work every day during this plandemic. Everyday she faces pressure, ridicule and bullying about vaccine. I assume at some point in time she will be fired for refusing vaccine. Any legal tips? I am positive I read on .win about a law firm offering assistance for non-covaids vaxers. But, can't find link. Any thoughts would be appreciated.
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I am a Healthcare worker. I told them I have a history of adverse reactions to vaccines (which is the truth) and didn't want to risk it. They didn't care and kept pushing the point. I simply told them it was against my religious beliefs. They literally laughed at me like I was joking and asked me what my religion was. I told them they cannot ask me that and I don't have to tell them and that if they kept trying to force me I would contact my lawyer. They stopped bothering me and I never heard about it again.
It's not a lie if you believe it's true. You just have to claim a sincerely held religious belief, no matter how out there it is.
What Are “Sincerely Held Religious Beliefs?” Nobody Really Knows
Religious Objections To Mandated COVID-19 Vaccines: Considerations For Employers
Report them! Eeoc
Us Muslims can't receive the vaccine. Maybe you're a Muslim too?
Did I leave that part out?
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From what I've been reading; the plan of attack for legal recourse on this is that the "vaccine" is an experimental medical treatment as it didn't go through proper human trials.
It’s not FDA approved, totally an experiment. There are also proven alternative treatments available that are very effective.
Exactly this.
It's EUA, emergency use authorized, not fully approved. From what I read, the EUA cannot be forced because it's not fully approved.
also, insurance will not cover bad side effects, no one will... with maybe an exception of suing the specific doctor who administered it for malpractice
Yeah but that’s true of all vaccines and most healthcare workers can be fired for not getting the flu vax too
This is what I remind every libshit who brags about being "fully vaccinated."
No you're not. You didn't even take an FDA approved drug. You let them inject experimental medicine into your bloodstream you fucking idiot
^this/these
FDA is political like every agency. They will fully approved it soon.
There are 2 great reasons why your wife may not be required by law to take the vaccine, other than, "My body. My choice."
The vaccine is only available for use under emergency protocol and has not yet passed clinical trial.
The non-MRNA vaccine uses stem cells and you can object due to religious reasons.
If you see trouble coming, lawyer up BEFORE its at your door.
God bless.
It's not a lie if you believe it's true. You just have to claim a sincerely held religious belief, no matter how out there it is.
What Are “Sincerely Held Religious Beliefs?” Nobody Really Knows
Religious Objections To Mandated COVID-19 Vaccines: Considerations For Employers
Those links are scary. I’m not opening that any further.
Tell them you don't eat gmo food, why would you inject one directly into your bloodstream
Because a baby cannot say my body my choice its fine? A person in a comma can just be unplugged because he or she cannot voice choice?
Well hell if the women can just kill her baby in the womb because its her choice then why not oit of the womb? Lets give her the choice bigot.
While I'm against abortion, I agree with u/sethrich if for no other reason than I don't want the government any deeper down our throats.
Banning abortion won't get rid of them in the same way banning drugs has done nothing to remove them from society.
If anything, banning abortion will just create an abortion black market & cause more harm to those unborn babies (plus worsen the black market of unborn baby parts).
Banning any type of government funding for abortion, and banning government funded orgs like Planned Parenthood from making political contributions or endorsements... Now those are things I can get behind!
"A baby in a womb" is still a baby.... it's just in the womb... fuck tard
That's not really an opinion thing... It's a different life form the minute it's conceived. That's a baby lol
Do you know that by the time most women realize they are pregnant, there's already a heartbeat? The heart is beating by week 3. The vast majority of abortions kill babies they have beating hearts.
Omg the brain starts to form before you even know you’re pregnant. It’s life the first thing to form. It doesn’t just for when it pops out at 40 weeks!!!
The "My body. My choice." argument was brought up in order to use the "woke" left's words against them.
When it comes to abortion, as soon as the sperm impregnate the egg, a distinct human life is formed. Therefore, it's NOT a part of YOUR body that you are choosing to remove, but a human life that you are choosing to kill.
Libertarian, but killing babies doesn't violate the non agression principle?
Ok, buddy.
You a truly a piece of shit.
Keep acting like the victim while you advocate for murdering babies. You are so virtuous.
Hates humanity and doesn't believe in God. Never fails with the zealous libertarian crowd.
"Clump of cells" at 12 weeks. Totally not a baby though /s. https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fmother-top.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2015%2F05%2F12-week-fetus-picture.jpg&f=1&nofb=1
You really stirred the pot with the "my body my choice" abortion thing. I don't think that that is what you meant to do.
I was going to add more, but at this point it is just hijacking and sliding a very relevant and legitimate post.
I disagree with your statement. Now about those lawyers that can help his wife out.
I'm waiting for the same demand to be made in the refineries. I don't think the Unions would stand for it, but, you know unions.
Holy fuck, you are annoying.
You are fucking dumb and annoying. That was my impersonation of you being a faggot, moron. 🙄
No one here needs a lesson on libertarianism.
You are not special.
Acting like you're superior because you learned about libertarianism last week makes you seem like a special boy. Here is your gold star 🌟
Its not a vaccine. Its experimental gene therapy.
https://www.lewrockwell.com/2021/02/joseph-mercola/covid-19-mrna-shots-are-legally-not-vaccines/
replace "sexual" with let's say "medical" or something
https://www.icandecide.org
I came across another the other day but can't remember the name. I'll post back if I find it.
This is so unfortunate. Guess "My body, my right" doesn't extend to the right of refusing vaccines. If anyone needs to lie, just say you are allergic to polysorbate, a thickening/common preservative agent that's used in ice cream as well as in the Moderna and Pfizer vaccines. People with this allergy cannot get the vaccines and if they did, would likely go into anaphylactic shock.
The "vaccines" are not FDA approved. They have been granted temporary emergency use authorization. You're literally getting experimental drugs injected into your bloodstream. As a scientist, no thanks!!
oh, I'm definitely allergic to injecting ice cream into the arm
It violates the Nuremberg code.
have countries agreed to follow it?
https://www.exposelockdowns.com/
She is going to have to stand up and not bow, she will be pressured yeah. Legally she can sue after the fact, but why bother with that shiite, it won't go anywhere.
Each of us must stand in our own way and place, no legal cover is coming to save us.
They can easily find cause to let her go, late to work, attitude, whatever. Here in Texas I can fire a person for no cause other than I want to lay you off.
I'd suggest she look for better employment.
A good Friend of ours is a nurse with over 20 years in the same eye doctor's office, she's a surgical nurse who spent her days trying to help kids see better down at the Houston Medical Center. She was getting pressured hard to take the fake vaccine, and she resisted saying 'not a vaccine, not effective, dangerous, religious', which she is . Her doctor, a female, is her Friend and has tried to shield her as she can. But she was finally informed that if she continued to refuse the vaccines she would find her hours reduced, her job duties changed, no more surgery or contact with patients. This came down from the hospital her doctor associates with, their protocols forced down on doctors and staff.
Her doctor helped her arrange a separation package, she resigned and they gave her 'some' money. She took a lesser position with a home health care company, she does not like it near as much as she liked working with kids, helping kids, but she will not take the vaccine. God Bless her.
Good luck. Tell her she will have to stand tall and not be broken by the Evils assaulting her, and she will likely see no relief soon. I'd look for work.
Those are emergency use authorized (fake) vaccines, legally they cannot be forced on us. Yet they will be, I won't fire you for refusing I'll fire you for being late to work. Or for missing a training class or .... whatever. Or I'll establish protocols which limit non-vaccinated employees to drudge work, less hours, less pay...until you quit.
God Bless her but there won't be much help coming.
https://files.catbox.moe/e4h2uj.jpg
Very good advice.
"here, let me give you a shot"
"how about shot for shot?"
Religious objection
It's not a lie if you believe it's true. You just have to claim a sincerely held religious belief, no matter how out there it is.
What Are “Sincerely Held Religious Beliefs?” Nobody Really Knows
Religious Objections To Mandated COVID-19 Vaccines: Considerations For Employers
Unfortunately in the 1905 Jacobson v Massachusetts SCOTUS case compulsory vaccination was upheld as lawful. I assume that pertains to FDA approved vaccines not necessarily those under EUA.
Does that still apply or did the Anti Vaccine movements after 1918 move the needle any?
HIPPA is a thing
maybe she has severe allergies or a history of anaphylaxis
get a lawyer, and bring that lawyer into work to discuss the vaccine
My experience with lawyers throughout my career is that you may prefer someone licensed in your state, and someone in driving distance. Depending on if your state is still under semi-lockdown, an in-person hearing might be needed in the futtre, and laws are often state by state. I’d start making calls locally. Employment Lawyers are in every major city. You could have the name of those checking in here, but you might need one in the flesh there.
The vaccines have emergency authorization, they have not passed clinical trials. If her employer tries to force her to take it, that is how you sue and win.
If you're thinking a court will help you, the 2020 election has something to say about that . . .
if emergency is based on pandemic, can one argue that numbers does not support pandemic or better yet epidemic?
HIPPA/privacy laws?Like anything else I think vaccination status would be confidential and don’t believe you’d be obliged to disclose it (unless it is a condition of employment.) in any case discussion of it among co-workers would be a violation and health care employees really ought to know better when it comes to HIPPA law. Even if you actually catch covid and you’re out sick, know for a fact you’re reason for taking sick time is confidential and you’re disclosing it is strictly voluntary.
Go to Children’s Health Defense. RFK, Jr. has been defending kids against harmful vaccines. Also they can’t mandate the vaccines until they are FDA approved.
She has to ask - in writing - if her taking the vaccine is “a condition of my employment”, and demand the answer also be in writing. This will help and also make your lawyer (whoever you finally get) very happy.
Also, my understanding in the past, certain healthcare workers who didn’t get the flu vaccine were offered the option of wearing a mask during the flu months. Still sucks, but why are they enforcing mandatory mask now?
https://youtu.be/pgAD4jeEn2g Their plan is to cripple the working and take control of our lives!!
Get her a hand written vaccine letter, liberals are stupid and won't know the difference.
If/when my shithole country (NZ) tries this I plan on agreeing, going in, sitting down, refusing the vaccine and walking out. As far as my employer knows, I went in for it, the nurse/dr who was meant to give me the shot will be unable to say I refused it as that would violate patient confidentiality. And all I would need to do is buy a little time for it to go through the courts and be declared illegal anyway since it would set a precedent that would open up to way too many fucked up things.
Imagine a company deciding that in order for a woman to be promoted to a management position, they require her to get a birth control shot and provide proof that she had it. That will be totally fine if this shit is allowed to go through.
They cant ask about private medical data under HIPA laws, right?
Depending on your State, research organizations that support & advocate medical freedom. I follow OAMF ( Ohio Advocates for Medical Freedom). You may find handy resources in a similar group at the State level.
Heslthcare is clown world adjacent. She might get bullied for not taking it, but a lot of us arent taking it. I dont think she will be fired for it.
Hospitals are law suit oinatas, they wont expose themselves to this.
If she has to take it, forge it.
Also go to Frontline doctors website. There’s a petition to sign to hopefully prevent mandates.
If your wife works for a hospital, maybe reach out to JACO and drop a employee harrasment alegation against the hospital. Want to scare a hospital, let them know your going to file a complaint with JACO. My uncle was in the hospital and getting subpar attention and my dad started raising hell and told the nurse he was going to call JACO. Within a half hour all was very, very different and a hospital administrator came to talk to him to make sure he was satisfied with treatment.
It's not a lie if you believe it's true. You just have to claim a sincerely held religious belief, no matter how out there it is.
What Are “Sincerely Held Religious Beliefs?” Nobody Really Knows
Religious Objections To Mandated COVID-19 Vaccines: Considerations For Employers
The post. Read it.
Time for her to find a new job, she will be forced or fired. Private businesses can do what they want.
So private businesses can own slaves then, and the government can't do anything about it? Stop using "Muh private business" as an excuse for tyranny moron.
They can also tell black people to gtfo. Oh wait, no they can't.
Thank you. I’m so fing tired of this excuse
We're not using it as an excuse, THEY are . . .