Should be noted: Audi is discontinuing development of their ICEs.
Basically this means the V10 that goes into the R8 and the twin-turbo V8 in the RS6. Most of their remaining lineup uses VW engines (VW is their parent company).
And the primary reason for doing this is due to extremely strict EU regs on the horizon that basically makes any "fun" ICE untenable. So, once again, blame the politicians.
VW cheated on emissions tests for their diesel engines and got caught and promptly fucked. It actually caused them to axe parts of their Audi and Porsche racing programs and cut a whole bunch of budget for vehicle development across all brands.
Wait until you find out everyone making over $150k a year will pay an EV tax if they don’t have an EV car. Precedent is set with Obamacare. You didn’t really think Obamacare was about healthcare for all did you?
Totally. "You work hard, let's take your money and give it to people who don't!" At what point do we just say fuck it? I can also take handouts, relax for once, and go angrily protest "not enough gibs".
Yep that’s why when I finish my degree and double my hourly wage, I plan on reducing my overall hours worked per week. Same money, half the effort. Why pay into this shit system? I’d rather enjoy a modest life.
Yep, the precedent of mandating that you purchase a certain product annually was never going to go to waste. You have to buy a new EV every 5 years to save the planet (healthcare for the planet), donate to leftist groups annually as a salve for your conscience (it's healthcare too!), and let the US turn into a Marxist nation (healthy for socialists). SCOTUS has no problem with it, it's just a tax, not an illegal mandate. Supremely Useless Court.
I really don't get the appeal of a car you can't go 1k miles in a day with... Why would anyone want that? Plus you can't leave super charger land without waiting overnight for your laptop car to charge.
Top Gear had a funny segment where the 3 of them went to some village in Italy to test drive 3 super cars. Jezza and May had petrol cars and Hammond had an electric car. I don’t remember the model but the only place to charge it was at the hotel so he kept planning all of the events to be near the hotel and the other two wanted to go to the country side or the mountains. When he did find a charger, they had to hang out at a gas station for 3 hours to charge it.
Literally nobody who advocates for electric vehicles lives outside a concrete jungle and it's pure ivory tower bullshit. These people can hardly take care of themselves and they think they're fit to run humanity like it's some kind of sim game.
At an average speed of 50mph you'd be sitting behind the wheel of that car for 22 hours to go 1000 miles.
That's being generous, with gas fill-ups, bathroom and food stops when you're going 0mph it's nearly impossible to go 50mph on average for that long.
But I agree in principle, road trips would suck in an EV. However, for a daily driver that I don't have to take to the gas station and just charge at home it would be pretty neat.
Basically if I had an EV I'd need a second car for road trips.
Well drivers can switch off, I've gone on many mid way cross the nation road trips in a single day, averaging as high as 70mph once stops are accounted for, it's not that unusual.
Even in a Cannonball Run in 2006 where they try to go as fast as possible have the shortest refueling stops, pee in a diaper and reached speeds of 157mph. Their average speed was still 90mph. So that 70mph is quite doubtful unless you're reaching speeds in excess of 130mph at times.
They stop for catered lunches and track events on the old Cannonball Run rallies, and any clip of them going quick was accompanied by huge spans of time staying at the speed limit because of the fact they are a parade of super cars. In a little eco shit box I can go faster than a Ferrari, there are no eyes on that eco shit box so I can probably beat most super cars on a long trip through many cities.
The fastest car on the road is one no one notices, one police stop and all that speeding is for naught.
Those aren't the ones I'm talking about. I'm talking about the more recent runs where they do try to set a record. I picked the 2006 because that car wasn't modified with a 70 gallon gas tank. That was just a BMW with some radar detectors, laser jammers and spotters and they did it all in secret. They were going all out.
If they did it in secret then I don't really care and it was not a Cannonball Run. Why would I trust someone who did something without publishing it? I used to watch the real ones on Mischief.tv until the police started cracking down on the actual racers using the reposted videos people posted where they shouldn't have.
Wow what a skilled driver you are slamming the the gas pedal and going to 60 real fast. Trying taking the Tesla, that weighs as much as an F-150, into some S-Turns.
Apparently you’ve forgotten everything if you think a Tesla is going to beat a high compression 419 In a nova. My car runs 1/4 high 9s. You don’t know shit about shit, fuck outta here.
I’m not talking about preventive maintenance. I’m talking about the ease and price of repairs. Proprietary softwares and parts are used forcing a trip to the dealer. Battery and electric motor replacement can be very expensive.
Like the ones involving the pollution created to make the batteries? The disposal problems involved with old batteries? What about the fact that most of the energy used to charge them comes from fossil fuels?
Find one for a reasonable price for that can go the same places my old as pickup can. Say under $30,000 and can get me to my hunting spots and haul my quad there like my old ass pickup can.
exactly. I have my truck, I'll buy electric for my daily driver if the cost is $10,000 or less, can do the 50+ miles daily with only needing a fill up every 3 or 4 days.
Its a woke virtue signal move Audi is vw and well vw is broke rn. They really just need to save money with less motors between the 2 lines and bring over electric engines . its just a woke maybe we can stop being broke ? Move lol
Translation: Audi's engines weren't competitive and they'll now be buying combustion engines from another manufacturer.
Hans, get the Volkswagen
Or, we ceasing development, not manufactur.
Should be noted: Audi is discontinuing development of their ICEs.
Basically this means the V10 that goes into the R8 and the twin-turbo V8 in the RS6. Most of their remaining lineup uses VW engines (VW is their parent company).
And the primary reason for doing this is due to extremely strict EU regs on the horizon that basically makes any "fun" ICE untenable. So, once again, blame the politicians.
Didn’t they (vw) just cheat that test anyways? The rules don’t apply to them
VW cheated on emissions tests for their diesel engines and got caught and promptly fucked. It actually caused them to axe parts of their Audi and Porsche racing programs and cut a whole bunch of budget for vehicle development across all brands.
Speaking as a long time mechanic Audi’s are trash anyway!
isn't it pretty much a VW with a nicer interior?
Seems kind of like a roll of the dice. The electric technology is not great.
Wait until you find out everyone making over $150k a year will pay an EV tax if they don’t have an EV car. Precedent is set with Obamacare. You didn’t really think Obamacare was about healthcare for all did you?
And you know what I'll do? I'll go part time and make $75k, or whatever. I'd rather live like that than let people mooch off of me.
Totally. "You work hard, let's take your money and give it to people who don't!" At what point do we just say fuck it? I can also take handouts, relax for once, and go angrily protest "not enough gibs".
Yep that’s why when I finish my degree and double my hourly wage, I plan on reducing my overall hours worked per week. Same money, half the effort. Why pay into this shit system? I’d rather enjoy a modest life.
Yep, the precedent of mandating that you purchase a certain product annually was never going to go to waste. You have to buy a new EV every 5 years to save the planet (healthcare for the planet), donate to leftist groups annually as a salve for your conscience (it's healthcare too!), and let the US turn into a Marxist nation (healthy for socialists). SCOTUS has no problem with it, it's just a tax, not an illegal mandate. Supremely Useless Court.
I really don't get the appeal of a car you can't go 1k miles in a day with... Why would anyone want that? Plus you can't leave super charger land without waiting overnight for your laptop car to charge.
Top Gear had a funny segment where the 3 of them went to some village in Italy to test drive 3 super cars. Jezza and May had petrol cars and Hammond had an electric car. I don’t remember the model but the only place to charge it was at the hotel so he kept planning all of the events to be near the hotel and the other two wanted to go to the country side or the mountains. When he did find a charger, they had to hang out at a gas station for 3 hours to charge it.
Literally nobody who advocates for electric vehicles lives outside a concrete jungle and it's pure ivory tower bullshit. These people can hardly take care of themselves and they think they're fit to run humanity like it's some kind of sim game.
Yeah and that was when the Nissan Leaf only had a 100 mile range, it was comically inconvenient, may as well have a scooter.
At an average speed of 50mph you'd be sitting behind the wheel of that car for 22 hours to go 1000 miles.
That's being generous, with gas fill-ups, bathroom and food stops when you're going 0mph it's nearly impossible to go 50mph on average for that long.
But I agree in principle, road trips would suck in an EV. However, for a daily driver that I don't have to take to the gas station and just charge at home it would be pretty neat.
Basically if I had an EV I'd need a second car for road trips.
Well drivers can switch off, I've gone on many mid way cross the nation road trips in a single day, averaging as high as 70mph once stops are accounted for, it's not that unusual.
Even in a Cannonball Run in 2006 where they try to go as fast as possible have the shortest refueling stops, pee in a diaper and reached speeds of 157mph. Their average speed was still 90mph. So that 70mph is quite doubtful unless you're reaching speeds in excess of 130mph at times.
They stop for catered lunches and track events on the old Cannonball Run rallies, and any clip of them going quick was accompanied by huge spans of time staying at the speed limit because of the fact they are a parade of super cars. In a little eco shit box I can go faster than a Ferrari, there are no eyes on that eco shit box so I can probably beat most super cars on a long trip through many cities.
The fastest car on the road is one no one notices, one police stop and all that speeding is for naught.
Those aren't the ones I'm talking about. I'm talking about the more recent runs where they do try to set a record. I picked the 2006 because that car wasn't modified with a 70 gallon gas tank. That was just a BMW with some radar detectors, laser jammers and spotters and they did it all in secret. They were going all out.
If they did it in secret then I don't really care and it was not a Cannonball Run. Why would I trust someone who did something without publishing it? I used to watch the real ones on Mischief.tv until the police started cracking down on the actual racers using the reposted videos people posted where they shouldn't have.
They did publish it, with GPS confirmation and everything. They waited until the statute of limitations passed. You can read about it on Wikipedia.
Get woke...
Try a Tesla and you'll never go back to shitty ass gasoline cars.
Some of the fastest 0-60 times around.
Just don't go more than 80 miles from home. 60 if you are using the A/C
More like 300 miles.
Wow what a skilled driver you are slamming the the gas pedal and going to 60 real fast. Trying taking the Tesla, that weighs as much as an F-150, into some S-Turns.
My nova runs on race fuel. Wanna race? Let’s see how fast your shit electric car goes lmaoo
Based off of that comment I can declare with 100% accuracy that you know absolutely nothing about cars. Congratulations.
Apparently you’ve forgotten everything if you think a Tesla is going to beat a high compression 419 In a nova. My car runs 1/4 high 9s. You don’t know shit about shit, fuck outta here.
Except cost. Except travel distance. Except maintainability. Except pussy factor.
Maintainability? All you need to do on electric cars is change the tires and brake pads for the most part.
No oil changes, no radiator, no timing belt, no leaky fluids, no nothing.
Guaranteed my 2019 Honda Ridgeline will be cheaper per mile lifetime than whatever EV you have.
I’m not talking about preventive maintenance. I’m talking about the ease and price of repairs. Proprietary softwares and parts are used forcing a trip to the dealer. Battery and electric motor replacement can be very expensive.
Like the ones involving the pollution created to make the batteries? The disposal problems involved with old batteries? What about the fact that most of the energy used to charge them comes from fossil fuels?
Have another beer.
Find one for a reasonable price for that can go the same places my old as pickup can. Say under $30,000 and can get me to my hunting spots and haul my quad there like my old ass pickup can.
Lol doesn’t even need to be old. I got a Honda Ridgeline in 20 for $36k out the door. Thing will last me 10-15 years I am convinced.
exactly. I have my truck, I'll buy electric for my daily driver if the cost is $10,000 or less, can do the 50+ miles daily with only needing a fill up every 3 or 4 days.
You really can’t just say what I asked wasn’t possible? lol. Did you wait 6 days to avoid the mass amounts of down votes you got too? Jesus.
Name calling now? Really proving your point buddy.
Now running on a soy turbine hybrid.
Audi: We still haven't figured out how to make a plastic radiator with a MTBF of more than 60,000 miles, so we give up!
JUST IN- Audi CEO says he's ready to be done, just needs a couple months to pay off a couple pregnant hookers
Its a woke virtue signal move Audi is vw and well vw is broke rn. They really just need to save money with less motors between the 2 lines and bring over electric engines . its just a woke maybe we can stop being broke ? Move lol
Ebike is the new automobile.
If you live in a city like a plebe.
I'm pretty sure they're owned by Volkswagen which owns the largest fast charging ports or the technology for it.
My brother works for Porsche and was telling me about it a few years ago when Porsche was debuting their electric car.
Audi had so much trouble.. they had to imitate Tesla!
IIRC audi doesn't make any engines so this is bullshit.
That's a fucking shame. I LOVED the Audi R8's. Audi has some of the nicest looking sleek designs in cars.
God damn shame.