The Irish have been treated just as badly but you don’t see them whining about history the way black people do. Indentured servitude was just slavery under a different name. Or the Slavs of Europe. The word slave comes from them. Or how about the Barbary corsairs, the Muslim slave traders who took Europeans as slaves and castrated them. Or the fact that Africans sold other Africans into slavery.
I have posted this story here before, but it's relevant, so I'll post it again. A northern man was visiting New Orleans, and at the port he saw men loading cargo into a ship. The black slaves were on the decks, tossing the cargo down to Irish dockworkers belowdecks. He asked the foreman why the slaves were not in the holds, since that was a much more dangerous position. If you caught parcels wrong it could break your back, and workplace injury and death were very common. The foreman told him, "The slaves have value. If we lose one of them, it's a big problem. If one of the Irish dies, though, we get another one, we lose nothing of value, and nobody cares."
There were massive numbers of Irish immigrants fighting on both sides, most of them for citizenship, some of them taking their guns and training back to Ireland to fight against the British. The Union used about 2.2 million troops, about 150k were Irish immigrants. The Confederacy used about 1 million troops, about 40k were Irish immigrants.
Why are you still trying to debate this shit? You think they care about any of that? They are just going to keep shaking you down for money until we tell them no. This squirming around and "w-well you know MY ancestors were oppressed too!" is such a sign of weakness.
You sound like a faggot with this tired "Irish were oppressed too ya know!" shit. No one cares, this is just a shake down of whitey for money, but first you need to build up white guilt in them first.
Here's where I think you're wrong on this; there is still public debate about these issues and the court of public opinion still matters. The insanity of these tyrants gets exposed more and more every day.
This just adds to our numbers as more wake up to Clown World. It's still important to change minds.
Where you're correct is that these arguments don't matter to us. We long ago concluded that pretty much everything they say is nonsense. So his argument isn't very useful here, but it would be elsewhere where there are people who aren't already awake to the madness.
The Irish have been treated just as badly but you don’t see them whining about history the way black people do. Indentured servitude was just slavery under a different name. Or the Slavs of Europe. The word slave comes from them. Or how about the Barbary corsairs, the Muslim slave traders who took Europeans as slaves and castrated them. Or the fact that Africans sold other Africans into slavery.
White people didn't invent slavery but they did invent abolishing slavery.
Yes. That is a very important fact lost on the left.
How Dare You! Using Facts and Logic!
Hate facts! Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!
Everybody knows that fact and logic usage is a sign of pure white privilege!
You could argue the Irish had it way worse. The average lifespan of the Irish was 19 years. The average black slave at that time was 36....
I have posted this story here before, but it's relevant, so I'll post it again. A northern man was visiting New Orleans, and at the port he saw men loading cargo into a ship. The black slaves were on the decks, tossing the cargo down to Irish dockworkers belowdecks. He asked the foreman why the slaves were not in the holds, since that was a much more dangerous position. If you caught parcels wrong it could break your back, and workplace injury and death were very common. The foreman told him, "The slaves have value. If we lose one of them, it's a big problem. If one of the Irish dies, though, we get another one, we lose nothing of value, and nobody cares."
The union fought largely with conscripted irish immigrants who very likely never saw a black person and were fighting for citizenship.
There were massive numbers of Irish immigrants fighting on both sides, most of them for citizenship, some of them taking their guns and training back to Ireland to fight against the British. The Union used about 2.2 million troops, about 150k were Irish immigrants. The Confederacy used about 1 million troops, about 40k were Irish immigrants.
Why are you still trying to debate this shit? You think they care about any of that? They are just going to keep shaking you down for money until we tell them no. This squirming around and "w-well you know MY ancestors were oppressed too!" is such a sign of weakness.
I am not debating anything. I am just stating some truths. Fuck you moron,
You sound like a faggot with this tired "Irish were oppressed too ya know!" shit. No one cares, this is just a shake down of whitey for money, but first you need to build up white guilt in them first.
Here's where I think you're wrong on this; there is still public debate about these issues and the court of public opinion still matters. The insanity of these tyrants gets exposed more and more every day.
This just adds to our numbers as more wake up to Clown World. It's still important to change minds.
Where you're correct is that these arguments don't matter to us. We long ago concluded that pretty much everything they say is nonsense. So his argument isn't very useful here, but it would be elsewhere where there are people who aren't already awake to the madness.
I am Irish and I am no faggot. I care about my history and many other people do as well. You can eat a shit sandwich.