I said elsewhere that I am invoking my white guilt.
"Yes I too thank Trump every day for the vaccine. But as a white male, I must go last. Cannot risk getting the shot while anyone of any other race anywhere on the planet hasn't had it."
"Yes I too thank Trump every day for the vaccine. But as a white male, I must go last. Cannot risk getting the shot while anyone of any other race or gender (all ten of them) anywhere on the planet hasn't had it."
or gender (all sixty-three of them, with ample opportunity for endless overlap leading to trillions more, such as being an aliagendered feminine-of-center andropresenting transaporal dysmorphilic femmebutch demiboi nonconforming variant-questioning polyfluid intergray maverique neutrois pantrigendered two-spirit novibinary) anywhere on the planet, or theoretically possible in any form even those as of yet not discovered or invented, hasn't had it.
This is the attitude fren. The problem with fascism is that eventually people see you being a fascist. I don't want to be a martyr, but it may be the greatest use I can give this nation.
Dressed in Hugo Boss, a pinnacle of fitness, authoritative males leading the way... I don't see the problem.
When a country reaches this stage of communism, it can only be defeated by its natural enemy, fascism. 102 years ago, antifa was producing fascists in the same way they are today. "This violence has to be stopped, and the state is siding with criminals." When you choose to be the one to stop it, you're a fascist.
Q: “The leftists are calling us fascists, what should we do?”
A: “OK, I know this sounds retarded as fuck, but hear me out. We become fascists! By completely validating their false narrative, we will totally own them!”
You answered your own question, fren. They are totalitarian rivals. Totalitarians do not share power, and in case of two rival totalitarian ideologies, one of them has to go.
Because Communists are globalists and Fascists are nationalists.
I'm no expert on the subject, but I honestly believe that's basically it. I think that's also why leftists always equate nationalism with Fascism. In their mind, that was the danger of Fascism. Not the totalitarianism that rational people worry about.
if they have to kill us, they will have to admit that that is their overall goal.I don't want to be a martyr,But I don't want my kids to live with this shit either
And another chemical they used 6.66 mg of it. People will say "omg you're imagining shit that's not there". Really? They couldn't have used...6 mg of it? They needed precisely 6.66? C'mon. That's clearly there for a reason. It could be a LARP or it could be their "Warning". As in, "we told them it had 6.66 mg, so they deserve what they get". That's why Satanists wear blatant imagery. It reduces their guilt. "I told them, I'm wearing a fucking baphomet amulet. They're stupid, they've been warned, they are just dumb". They believe heavily in karma. But they believe if they warn you about it, they are absolved of the bad karma.
So it's random chance that in a vaccine that contains Luciferase, it required precisely 6.66 mg? You're telling me no other number would work?
I could see if it was a legitimate vaccine. It's not. It's some bullshit. It's not even for corona, but a strain of random protein. It's slopped together shit. So forgive me if I don't believe it had to have precisely 6.66 mg or whatever the fuck AND luciferase in a vaccine that people were scared was the mark of the devil. Sorry I think that's suspicious.
Convert 6.66mg to any imperial number if you wanna feel better about it boss. Luciferase is an enzyme related to bioluminescence. You ever get a cat-scan or MRI? got some news for you.
Since December, passengers have been using CommonPass for testing verification on select flights out of New York, Boston, London, and Hong Kong with United, JetBlue, Lufthansa, Swiss International and Virgin Atlantic. Those options are in addition to previous trial routes for United and Cathay Pacific Flights to London, New York, Hong Kong, and Singapore. IATA’s Health Pass, meanwhile, recently garnered trial use on several international air carriers, including Emirates, Copa, Malaysia Airlines and Singapore Airlines.
No shit. I know people have talked about it. But it amazes me that people who hate us spend time on TD. The last place I would want to go make comments is huffpo or CNN or deddit.
You realize that vaccines have helped stamp out several deadly infectious diseases right? Do you get a measles, mumps, chicken pox shot?
Sweet baby Jesus, should we go back to
Medieval medicine and eschew all of these vaccines too? I thought Jenny McCarthy already lost this debate.
Vaccines have always taken several years to test after production. The rona ones were fast tracked within months. The world is basically one huge phase 3 trial right now because politicians couldn't just quarantine the old and weak. Nonono they had to quarantine even the people that aren't at risk of getting sick and shut down society for everybody.
Yes. Some vaccines are good, therefore anything they call a vaccine and want to inject you with must be good. If you like some vaccines you MUST like all, no grey area exists.
The polio vaccine is great. But tell me again why we inject newborns with hepatitus vaccines? It must be for all the drugs and unprotected sex they're going to have once they leave the hospital?
Jenny McCarthy recovered her son from autism at a time when most doctors said it was impossible. She is a hero to many in the autism community. As much as the media has lied about Trump, I guarantee you they've lied for decades about vaccines and medical malfeasance. Read Dissolving Illusions if you want your mind opened.
Measles, mumps and chicken pox are legitimate diseases that I REALLY don't want to get.
I've never gotten a flu shot because I'm healthy and don't really worry about the flu. Literally can't remember the last time I got sick with any type of flu so why would I sit still for a jab that reportedly has a shitload of side effects and is being developed by a bunch of globohomo shitheads?
Nice projection. The person who is insisting the world get vaccinated for a disease with a 99%+ survival rate in healthy people is calling everyone else a scared child.
How many masks were you wearing when you typed that, baby boy?
It was not enough that someone had on their own mask. Everyone was forced to wear a mask. And now it won’t be enough that someone has their own vaccine, they are going to want everyone to be forced to vaccinate. The masks were the slippery slope...
Communists taking over the schools and refusing to teach our children science was the slippery slope. Once they prepared that, they literally could have made up anything. And they have.
That's what War and famine are for, they wipe out stupid brainwashed people when a new paradigm takes control. Whether it is us or Bill Gates, someone will find a way to remove a large amount of people from the planet.
Yes-ish. When you want to enjoy the Pinnacle of an organized Society, you need educated humans that aren't just useless eaters. These people are more likely to notice the inequity of their situation, and must be given a distraction. Upping the number of useless eaters causes that distraction, and puts us in a position of fighting the poor or helping the poor rather than destroying the rich. But overall, I agree
The 1930 firearms act was a slippery slope. The creation of the CIA was a slippery slope. The passage of the 1965 immigration act was a slippery slope.
The masks are only revealing the work that's already been done.
I know you're being flippant but I'll go ahead and post cringe by "explaining" the meme. Some of these "vaccines" are 60% effective. Yeah, that's right, 40% of the people "innoculated" don't develop immunity. You need something like 90% immunity to reach "herd immunity" and about 60% of the population doesn't seem affected by this virus anyway. That has a lot of implications but tl;dr: you can take the "vaccine" all day and you won't have herd immunity.
rant: some of these things are vaccines, others qualify more as gene therapy, you can't really talk about all of them in one context. they're all different, have different efficacies, different side-effects. A lot of people have to take the yearly flu vaccine too and a little known fact, that's equally shit at being a vaccine. You can look up some of the arguments for/against the "yearly flu vaccine" to read more and it will mostly apply here. Even well designed vaccines sometimes never go above 90% and that can be increased or decreased simply by using different adjuvants. I don't know if the meme maker knew all this and made a really meta meme or has no idea and we're dealing with an ignoramus but either way, the meme works. It's funny, it can lead to people asking the right questions to learn about how vacciens work, and you won't get your ass kicked too hard in a colloquial debate if you invoke this meme.
argument falls apart when "herd immunity" is actually achieved at 5-10% which happened already, before the vaccines were introduced.
which also demonstrates the problem when using definitions controlled by other people. "Herd Immunity" should be extrapolated to mean, the amount of people that are immune before the population is trivially affected. From there, you can argue the coefficient of variation numbers, the susceptibility by age group, and what constitutes "trivial." But notice, under this new definition, everyone under 40 is already "innoculated" by their definition.
In today's world with a hailstorm of data, having the ability to dissect information, is of utmost importance.
Merely pointing out that you don't know what "Herd immunity" means. That is because the definition is a moving target which you can't control or nail down. It is a fiction of somebody's imagination that has taken a life of its' own and will continue to morph depending on the needs. You, therefore, can't stake a claim on what percentages must be "effectively innoculated" in order to reach this imaginary state called "herd immunity." This is further compounded by the fact that you do not know what "Effective" means and you do not know what "innoculated" means. In short, you can't define the materials so, now that I've challenged you on the definition; you will probably "google" the answers and will cite the source of the CDC or some study that uses their own language to describe the words. You will be surprised that they stake claims based on theory and conjecture, so even appealing to "authority," does no good here, since the authorities, we can observe, are in even worse shape. In short, if you were consistent with your beliefs, the colloquial debate is with yourself.
I am dumber for having read those two comments, thanks. 😳 I'll reply to you later tonight when I have time for a rant since several people upvoted you.
Not only can they still spread it, because the vaccine doesn't actually kill a virus, vaccinated people can still get sick because not everyone will create immunity if they get vaccinated.
HIPPA laws were enacted to keep us from knowing what SSRI meds mass shooters were prescribed to take and might be in withdrawal from at the time of shooting.
they think they'll get to pull strings in the new world, can't be reasoned with; they're one of the first to get killed by communists because they're too stupid to be trusted
Good. Watch the Tuesday March 16th AJ show episode to see all the new deadly soft kill dangers of the "vaccine." Watch at least 50 minutes worth, less when skipping ads. INFOWARS DOT COM or banned dot video
If you are "vaccinated" then you can't get the China coof, right? Then why are you worried about whether I am vaccinated? Is it because Fauci is now saying that you can still get the coof even after being vaccinated?
Maybe because the vaccine is bullshit? A trojan horse for something else? Or just really reckless science that has no ill intent but will inevitably present long-term side-effects in the coming years?
Part of the plan is to eventually give people 5 or more extra shots per year. It's a synthetic cold virus which mutates so much that there will always be new strains to scare the sheep into submission. It's part of a sterilization, eugenics, and soft kill plan. Major publications are already celebrating what's coming.
Trump got other fuckers to get the vaccine to the market.
And it turns out a lot those other fuckers didn't like him much and they sure as hell don't like me much.
I'll pass on the trojan horse vaccine made from a variety of enemies.
Thanks for thinking that I am so enamoured by GEOTUS that I don't think for myself though - that's for the other side of the aisle. Good try handshake.
I do not care if I can not travel, go to the store, or whatever bullshit they try to pull. I am not getting the shot. I hate just going to the doctor these days getting asked 50 million times if I am going to get my flu shot. No matter how many times you ask I will say no.
If you wear a face diaper, you have to get the vaccine... because face diapers don't work. If you get the vaccine, you need to wear the face diaper... because the vaccines don't work." - Libtards everywhere.
When will they start telling us that we need to get each of the vaccines?
Remember, even if you've already had covid you still need to be vaccinated, socially distance, and wear 5 masks, because what if you acktually got covid?! If you don't do all of this 24/7 you're a racist who is murdering trillions of lives. #factsfirst
I mean, that's how herd immunity works. You need enough people to have resistance so the virus is starved of new hosts to replicate in.
But, we're already there with Covid, and we got there without the vaccine, and would have gotten there faster without the lockdowns. This experimental vaccine is an unnecessary gamble for anyone young and healthy.
was in an argument with someone and they gave me the guilt loaded question of, "what about some cancer patient somewhere thats undergoing chemo, and cant get vaccinated? are you going to deny them a normal life?"
“Cancer denied them a normal life. That’s what cancer does. We don’t get to decide whether they get a normal life, but we get to decide whether we get one.”
but also look at it from the perspective of the cancer patient. you might be in the more vulnerable demographic, and you may get it, you may not. and if do get it, you'll still have a very high chance of surviving it. would you want the entire world to grind to a halt because of the off chance you might die from it? would you want billions of healthy people to inject themselves with an experimental vaccine, putting their health at risk, and wont even guarantee that itll protect you from covid? If we're talking about who's being selfish, thats most selfish shit ive ever heard.
And you are exactly right too. Having significant heart issues, I am (per the gov, lol) at a high risk of death should I contract wuflu. I don't really want to die yet since I'm not that old and got things to do yet. It has never occurred to me that everyone else should do or not do anything in relation to my situation. If I think I should wear a mask to protect myself, I will (I don't). If I want to hide in my house so I don't catch it, I will. (I don't). If I want to get the vaccine to protect myself, I will (Hell fucking no).
It just boggles my mind that there are actually people out there that want the rest of the world to bow down to their desires. Actually, these days it isn't surprising, just alien to me. I guess that's why I'm heavily right-leaning, lol.
But, yeah, the selfishness and egocentrism is despicable.
I'm wondering about the zinc, when someone is sick I thought they put people on a higher temporary dose. The 30mg was the max safe dose for every day of the year dosing. So people don't risk organ damage.
Well herd immunity is a real thing. If everyone's chance of infection gets reduced from 50% to 20% because of a vaccine, the disease spreads a lot slower. With one exception: if a vax removes symptoms but not infectiousness, spread of the disease skyrockets, and since behavioral pressures (symptoms) has been removed, it can evolve into nastier forms. A virus, left alone, ONLY becomes less dangerous, because the prime purpose of organisms is to reproduce, and less dangerous disease gets more chances.
The "new, deadlier UK strain" appearing at the same time as the GMOvax is no coincidence. Either the new virus was in the GMOvax, deliberately or accidentally, or the GMOvax triggered a mutation in the wild virus, but deadlier strains don't just appear naturally.
You are correct. The only time a more deadly version spreads is due to an artificial and unnatural response from humanity. The only known example of this was the Spanish Flu, where the less sick stayed on the front lines and the more sick were moved back into hospitals.
BS!
You only transmit (shed) the virus when it is multiplying in your body (during active infection). The immune do not have active multiplication so they cannot transmit. Learn some science and stop listening to the fraud Fauci.
Exactly. Why take an experimental "vaccine" which could have unknown side effects (which even the manufacturers themselves acknowledge) for a virus for which there is effective treatment and a chance of 98% (or higher) to survive?
There are many people that get sick and have died just from taking the vaccine.
Life is risk management. Seems like there are a lot more risks getting these experimental vaccinations, than not.
Doesn't the inadvertent eugenics of leftists dying because they were eager to take the shot make you laugh just a little? Isn't it just absurdly funny?
A little but it's mixed with sadness because there are people who have to take this shit or lose their jobs. Not all the guinea pigs are happy about it. I'm not saying it kills people, it's just crap.
True. Concerns about the speed of the development of this vaccine are not the same as being antivax. But there are lots of comments at the top of this thread by those who say that they’re never going to take this shot. That sure seems antivax to me.
I'll never willingly get a shot.
I said elsewhere that I am invoking my white guilt.
"Yes I too thank Trump every day for the vaccine. But as a white male, I must go last. Cannot risk getting the shot while anyone of any other race anywhere on the planet hasn't had it."
THIS^
FTFY
FTFY
finally someone with some fucking common sense on this site
the amount of genderphobia and bigotry of most people on this site is mind boggling
THIS^
THAT^
The Other?^
the Pfizer CEO strategy
Imagine taking a medicine the creator doesn't even want to take, lmao.
Holy shit.
This is it. This is what I'm doing.
white vaccine privilege
I'll never get the shot. If they try to force me, they will likely have to kill me.
They'll have to give me a shot of lead first.
This is the attitude fren. The problem with fascism is that eventually people see you being a fascist. I don't want to be a martyr, but it may be the greatest use I can give this nation.
Dressed in Hugo Boss, a pinnacle of fitness, authoritative males leading the way... I don't see the problem.
When a country reaches this stage of communism, it can only be defeated by its natural enemy, fascism. 102 years ago, antifa was producing fascists in the same way they are today. "This violence has to be stopped, and the state is siding with criminals." When you choose to be the one to stop it, you're a fascist.
Glory to Rome, motherfucker.
Q: “The leftists are calling us fascists, what should we do?”
A: “OK, I know this sounds retarded as fuck, but hear me out. We become fascists! By completely validating their false narrative, we will totally own them!”
[farting sounds]
Genuine question can you explain to me how communism and fascism are natural enemies? Both are forms of totalitarianism and seem rather similar.
You answered your own question, fren. They are totalitarian rivals. Totalitarians do not share power, and in case of two rival totalitarian ideologies, one of them has to go.
Because Communists are globalists and Fascists are nationalists.
I'm no expert on the subject, but I honestly believe that's basically it. I think that's also why leftists always equate nationalism with Fascism. In their mind, that was the danger of Fascism. Not the totalitarianism that rational people worry about.
This. You got it nailed.
The fascists lost.
I suggest another path.
Maybe, but I'm not so sure. I am sure that all of us think we have the answer, but we obviously don't, because collectively we are here.
I don't see the whites (ree) of anyone's eyes yet
This is a legendary post
You and I think alike, take care fren.
"your terms are acceptable" - Stealin
Bill Gates and Klaus Schwab enter the chat... "thank you for recognizing our intensions."
if they have to kill us, they will have to admit that that is their overall goal.I don't want to be a martyr,But I don't want my kids to live with this shit either
That decision might save your soul, too.
They used luciferase in the creation of it.
And another chemical they used 6.66 mg of it. People will say "omg you're imagining shit that's not there". Really? They couldn't have used...6 mg of it? They needed precisely 6.66? C'mon. That's clearly there for a reason. It could be a LARP or it could be their "Warning". As in, "we told them it had 6.66 mg, so they deserve what they get". That's why Satanists wear blatant imagery. It reduces their guilt. "I told them, I'm wearing a fucking baphomet amulet. They're stupid, they've been warned, they are just dumb". They believe heavily in karma. But they believe if they warn you about it, they are absolved of the bad karma.
You're aware that math is absolute right?
So it's random chance that in a vaccine that contains Luciferase, it required precisely 6.66 mg? You're telling me no other number would work?
I could see if it was a legitimate vaccine. It's not. It's some bullshit. It's not even for corona, but a strain of random protein. It's slopped together shit. So forgive me if I don't believe it had to have precisely 6.66 mg or whatever the fuck AND luciferase in a vaccine that people were scared was the mark of the devil. Sorry I think that's suspicious.
Convert 6.66mg to any imperial number if you wanna feel better about it boss. Luciferase is an enzyme related to bioluminescence. You ever get a cat-scan or MRI? got some news for you.
It might be 6.66mg but how many pounds is it?
Fake it
A vaccine "green card" is widely discussed now. The idea is to block you out from society if you don't have one.
airlines are already instituting it
ne're do wells are faking in the dough selling fake certificates in airports
Ticketmaster is also proposing it. I am sure what's left of sports will follow
Pretty soon, all of the places with mask Nazis will require it
you got a source for airlines already doing it?
IATA Travel Pass Initiative
https://www.iata.org/en/programs/passenger/travel-pass/
Since December, passengers have been using CommonPass for testing verification on select flights out of New York, Boston, London, and Hong Kong with United, JetBlue, Lufthansa, Swiss International and Virgin Atlantic. Those options are in addition to previous trial routes for United and Cathay Pacific Flights to London, New York, Hong Kong, and Singapore. IATA’s Health Pass, meanwhile, recently garnered trial use on several international air carriers, including Emirates, Copa, Malaysia Airlines and Singapore Airlines.
We don't fly. Hubs hates flying.
I am going to wait for AOC's train to Hawaii
Hubs is either fat or a pussy lmao
Shrug. I'm already home most of the time anyway.
Yeah - I'm going to have to be knocked out, tricked or held down by the US Rugby team or some strength-level equivalent.
Lol, three downvotes... Practically a brigade.
When you're getting flak you must be over the target.
No shit. I know people have talked about it. But it amazes me that people who hate us spend time on TD. The last place I would want to go make comments is huffpo or CNN or deddit.
But those people are miserable and want to try to make everyone miserable with them, so they come here to try.
see: huge social media compilation of "vaccine" injuries and deaths
Warning: direct download link to large pdf
I'll add that warning, thanks
MY BODY MY CHOICE HAHA GET IT?
only if you are killing a baby
You realize that vaccines have helped stamp out several deadly infectious diseases right? Do you get a measles, mumps, chicken pox shot? Sweet baby Jesus, should we go back to Medieval medicine and eschew all of these vaccines too? I thought Jenny McCarthy already lost this debate.
Vaccines have always taken several years to test after production. The rona ones were fast tracked within months. The world is basically one huge phase 3 trial right now because politicians couldn't just quarantine the old and weak. Nonono they had to quarantine even the people that aren't at risk of getting sick and shut down society for everybody.
That last one...
Yes. Some vaccines are good, therefore anything they call a vaccine and want to inject you with must be good. If you like some vaccines you MUST like all, no grey area exists.
The polio vaccine is great. But tell me again why we inject newborns with hepatitus vaccines? It must be for all the drugs and unprotected sex they're going to have once they leave the hospital?
Hep b spreads via any bodily fluid ie toothbrushes, bathroom floors
Newborn. Baby.
You realize gene therapy and a vaccine were 2 different things until 2 weeks ago?
Jenny McCarthy recovered her son from autism at a time when most doctors said it was impossible. She is a hero to many in the autism community. As much as the media has lied about Trump, I guarantee you they've lied for decades about vaccines and medical malfeasance. Read Dissolving Illusions if you want your mind opened.
I wonder how society survived before vaccines were a thing.
My friends and I read shit like dissolving illusions all the time. It’s always a good laugh
She did not “recover” her son from autism, as nobody “recovers” from autism. You are an absolute fucking moron.
Measles, mumps and chicken pox are legitimate diseases that I REALLY don't want to get.
I've never gotten a flu shot because I'm healthy and don't really worry about the flu. Literally can't remember the last time I got sick with any type of flu so why would I sit still for a jab that reportedly has a shitload of side effects and is being developed by a bunch of globohomo shitheads?
Nice projection. The person who is insisting the world get vaccinated for a disease with a 99%+ survival rate in healthy people is calling everyone else a scared child.
How many masks were you wearing when you typed that, baby boy?
It was not enough that someone had on their own mask. Everyone was forced to wear a mask. And now it won’t be enough that someone has their own vaccine, they are going to want everyone to be forced to vaccinate. The masks were the slippery slope...
Communists taking over the schools and refusing to teach our children science was the slippery slope. Once they prepared that, they literally could have made up anything. And they have.
That's what War and famine are for, they wipe out stupid brainwashed people when a new paradigm takes control. Whether it is us or Bill Gates, someone will find a way to remove a large amount of people from the planet.
We are all considered “useless eaters” by these globalist elites. They can’t get rid of us fast enough.
Yes-ish. When you want to enjoy the Pinnacle of an organized Society, you need educated humans that aren't just useless eaters. These people are more likely to notice the inequity of their situation, and must be given a distraction. Upping the number of useless eaters causes that distraction, and puts us in a position of fighting the poor or helping the poor rather than destroying the rich. But overall, I agree
Masks and lockdowns. Two weeks to flatten the curve.
The 1930 firearms act was a slippery slope. The creation of the CIA was a slippery slope. The passage of the 1965 immigration act was a slippery slope.
The masks are only revealing the work that's already been done.
TX, MS, and FL have already done away with flu manchu restrictions
CA has enough signatures to recall Newsom over his mask policies
and people everywhere are unslippering the slope
Add OK to your list
OK
If the "vaccinated" can still spread Covid, why do they care if I get vaccinated? My body, my choice.
I know you're being flippant but I'll go ahead and post cringe by "explaining" the meme. Some of these "vaccines" are 60% effective. Yeah, that's right, 40% of the people "innoculated" don't develop immunity. You need something like 90% immunity to reach "herd immunity" and about 60% of the population doesn't seem affected by this virus anyway. That has a lot of implications but tl;dr: you can take the "vaccine" all day and you won't have herd immunity.
rant: some of these things are vaccines, others qualify more as gene therapy, you can't really talk about all of them in one context. they're all different, have different efficacies, different side-effects. A lot of people have to take the yearly flu vaccine too and a little known fact, that's equally shit at being a vaccine. You can look up some of the arguments for/against the "yearly flu vaccine" to read more and it will mostly apply here. Even well designed vaccines sometimes never go above 90% and that can be increased or decreased simply by using different adjuvants. I don't know if the meme maker knew all this and made a really meta meme or has no idea and we're dealing with an ignoramus but either way, the meme works. It's funny, it can lead to people asking the right questions to learn about how vacciens work, and you won't get your ass kicked too hard in a colloquial debate if you invoke this meme.
argument falls apart when "herd immunity" is actually achieved at 5-10% which happened already, before the vaccines were introduced.
which also demonstrates the problem when using definitions controlled by other people. "Herd Immunity" should be extrapolated to mean, the amount of people that are immune before the population is trivially affected. From there, you can argue the coefficient of variation numbers, the susceptibility by age group, and what constitutes "trivial." But notice, under this new definition, everyone under 40 is already "innoculated" by their definition.
In today's world with a hailstorm of data, having the ability to dissect information, is of utmost importance.
Are you trolling?
Merely pointing out that you don't know what "Herd immunity" means. That is because the definition is a moving target which you can't control or nail down. It is a fiction of somebody's imagination that has taken a life of its' own and will continue to morph depending on the needs. You, therefore, can't stake a claim on what percentages must be "effectively innoculated" in order to reach this imaginary state called "herd immunity." This is further compounded by the fact that you do not know what "Effective" means and you do not know what "innoculated" means. In short, you can't define the materials so, now that I've challenged you on the definition; you will probably "google" the answers and will cite the source of the CDC or some study that uses their own language to describe the words. You will be surprised that they stake claims based on theory and conjecture, so even appealing to "authority," does no good here, since the authorities, we can observe, are in even worse shape. In short, if you were consistent with your beliefs, the colloquial debate is with yourself.
I am dumber for having read those two comments, thanks. 😳 I'll reply to you later tonight when I have time for a rant since several people upvoted you.
save your self some time and save it for somebody who cares
https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/herd-immunity-may-only-need-a-10-per-cent-infection-rate
What trade do you practice for a living, if you don't mind me asking? You manage to top each one of your comments; it's amazing.
Not only can they still spread it, because the vaccine doesn't actually kill a virus, vaccinated people can still get sick because not everyone will create immunity if they get vaccinated.
The vaccine doesn't actually kill a virus..?
No, your body "kills" the virus, and a virus isn't even considered alive. I'll assume that's what you meant, instead of some dumb shit.
Just because someone gets vaccinated, it doesn't mean their body develops an antibody.
Just because someone gets vaccinated, it doesn't mean the virus is no longer in their bodies to transmit to others.
It's rapidly devolving to "Unless you show me your health record, I don't believe you".
Health privacy laws are moot.
Be on the lookout for company policy changes.
HIPPA laws were enacted to keep us from knowing what SSRI meds mass shooters were prescribed to take and might be in withdrawal from at the time of shooting.
I thought dead people and convicted criminals had no rights to privacy
just download the covid tracker app and let it share your health information with the world! nothing suspicious to see here!
yeah, and while you're at it, put all your guns on a public database so everyone knows where all the guns are /s
Oh! You guys...
Exactly. I used to laugh at my friends on FAKEBOOK posting pics of their guns.
LOL at the salty communist downvoting nearly EVERY comment here. Good job being that useful idiot that'll get murdered by the gov't power you create.
All the downvotes are from retards that got scared into the shot
Ageism
You'd know, wouldn't ya?
they think they'll get to pull strings in the new world, can't be reasoned with; they're one of the first to get killed by communists because they're too stupid to be trusted
or to run or fight back.... FIFY
Never gonna happen.
I refuse.
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People I know are faking their survey results to "jump" the line just to get the shot, its crazy!
I applaud these useful idiots. Because of them, I won’t have to get my shot thanks to herd immunity.
Right Fauci?!
Fine by me. I’d rather these willing guinea pigs suffer the side effects first.
Im not putting that shit in my body.
Fauci logic.
The logic is ridiculous.
If you are "vaccinated" then you can't get the China coof, right? Then why are you worried about whether I am vaccinated? Is it because Fauci is now saying that you can still get the coof even after being vaccinated?
Maybe because the vaccine is bullshit? A trojan horse for something else? Or just really reckless science that has no ill intent but will inevitably present long-term side-effects in the coming years?
Part of the plan is to eventually give people 5 or more extra shots per year. It's a synthetic cold virus which mutates so much that there will always be new strains to scare the sheep into submission. It's part of a sterilization, eugenics, and soft kill plan. Major publications are already celebrating what's coming.
Wtf, Trump got the vaccine to market. Best accomplishment of his administration. Now you’re calling it a bullshit vaccine?
Trump got other fuckers to get the vaccine to the market.
And it turns out a lot those other fuckers didn't like him much and they sure as hell don't like me much.
I'll pass on the trojan horse vaccine made from a variety of enemies.
Thanks for thinking that I am so enamoured by GEOTUS that I don't think for myself though - that's for the other side of the aisle. Good try handshake.
Ok I’ll bite. Who are the enemies that made this Trojan horse vaccine?
I respect your opinion, tho I certainly disagree with it.
If that was his worst, what was his best?
Your vaccine protects me and my vaccine protects you. Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!
My body, my immunity.
My body, my immunity that is more effective against COVID-1984 than the fake vaccines with no side effects.
I do not care if I can not travel, go to the store, or whatever bullshit they try to pull. I am not getting the shot. I hate just going to the doctor these days getting asked 50 million times if I am going to get my flu shot. No matter how many times you ask I will say no.
"sCiEnCe"
NOAA "scientists" would like to enter the chat, them fucks admit they fudge numbers.
I thank Trump for getting it out
But no way in fucking hell I am getting the shot
Did Trump get the vaccine? Or just Pence the scared man?
When will they start telling us that we need to get each of the vaccines?
Imagine: I'm taking birth control. But the only way I can avoid pregnancy is if everyone takes the pill.
No.
Remember, even if you've already had covid you still need to be vaccinated, socially distance, and wear 5 masks, because what if you acktually got covid?! If you don't do all of this 24/7 you're a racist who is murdering trillions of lives. #factsfirst
great meme, worth spreading
I mean, that's how herd immunity works. You need enough people to have resistance so the virus is starved of new hosts to replicate in.
But, we're already there with Covid, and we got there without the vaccine, and would have gotten there faster without the lockdowns. This experimental vaccine is an unnecessary gamble for anyone young and healthy.
How sad for them
No, because I already identify as "vaccinated."
was in an argument with someone and they gave me the guilt loaded question of, "what about some cancer patient somewhere thats undergoing chemo, and cant get vaccinated? are you going to deny them a normal life?"
“Cancer denied them a normal life. That’s what cancer does. We don’t get to decide whether they get a normal life, but we get to decide whether we get one.”
you got that right.
but also look at it from the perspective of the cancer patient. you might be in the more vulnerable demographic, and you may get it, you may not. and if do get it, you'll still have a very high chance of surviving it. would you want the entire world to grind to a halt because of the off chance you might die from it? would you want billions of healthy people to inject themselves with an experimental vaccine, putting their health at risk, and wont even guarantee that itll protect you from covid? If we're talking about who's being selfish, thats most selfish shit ive ever heard.
And you are exactly right too. Having significant heart issues, I am (per the gov, lol) at a high risk of death should I contract wuflu. I don't really want to die yet since I'm not that old and got things to do yet. It has never occurred to me that everyone else should do or not do anything in relation to my situation. If I think I should wear a mask to protect myself, I will (I don't). If I want to hide in my house so I don't catch it, I will. (I don't). If I want to get the vaccine to protect myself, I will (Hell fucking no).
It just boggles my mind that there are actually people out there that want the rest of the world to bow down to their desires. Actually, these days it isn't surprising, just alien to me. I guess that's why I'm heavily right-leaning, lol. But, yeah, the selfishness and egocentrism is despicable.
Take 2k+ vit d with k2, < 30 mg zinc daily, and c a few times a day if you're worried. B12 too but that's more common.
That vitamin cocktail is exactly what the doctor prescribed us for our current covid infection.
I'm wondering about the zinc, when someone is sick I thought they put people on a higher temporary dose. The 30mg was the max safe dose for every day of the year dosing. So people don't risk organ damage.
Until every chemo patient has the vaxx, I cannot get the vaxx
Well herd immunity is a real thing. If everyone's chance of infection gets reduced from 50% to 20% because of a vaccine, the disease spreads a lot slower. With one exception: if a vax removes symptoms but not infectiousness, spread of the disease skyrockets, and since behavioral pressures (symptoms) has been removed, it can evolve into nastier forms. A virus, left alone, ONLY becomes less dangerous, because the prime purpose of organisms is to reproduce, and less dangerous disease gets more chances.
The "new, deadlier UK strain" appearing at the same time as the GMOvax is no coincidence. Either the new virus was in the GMOvax, deliberately or accidentally, or the GMOvax triggered a mutation in the wild virus, but deadlier strains don't just appear naturally.
You are correct. The only time a more deadly version spreads is due to an artificial and unnatural response from humanity. The only known example of this was the Spanish Flu, where the less sick stayed on the front lines and the more sick were moved back into hospitals.
Nice try FBI. But my health information is mine. So if I took it or didn't none of your business.
the vaccine will also fail if YOU don't wear a mask
It sickens me how fucking gleeful the sheeple are to get their shot...
Just because you are vaccinated doesn't mean you are immune.
Some of the vaccinated people will not create immunity.
Therefor not all vaccinated people are protected.
Vaccinated people can still carry and spread the virus, even if they do not get sick from it themselves.
Vaccines do not kill a virus (or bacteria).
The virus continues to live and may mutate.
This is true for any vaccine.
Then what's the point of the vaccine if it won't prevent you from getting it? It's not even really a vaccine since it doesn't contain any covid.
Exactly!
Ivermectin does...
BS! You only transmit (shed) the virus when it is multiplying in your body (during active infection). The immune do not have active multiplication so they cannot transmit. Learn some science and stop listening to the fraud Fauci.
Getting the vaccine does not guarantee the vaccinated person develops antibodies and becomes immune.
95 % of the time it works. Or so says the CDC
Exactly. Why take an experimental "vaccine" which could have unknown side effects (which even the manufacturers themselves acknowledge) for a virus for which there is effective treatment and a chance of 98% (or higher) to survive?
There are many people that get sick and have died just from taking the vaccine.
Life is risk management. Seems like there are a lot more risks getting these experimental vaccinations, than not.
I turned off my propaganda box. But unless you turn off yours the average IQ will keep dropping.
Doesn't the inadvertent eugenics of leftists dying because they were eager to take the shot make you laugh just a little? Isn't it just absurdly funny?
A little but it's mixed with sadness because there are people who have to take this shit or lose their jobs. Not all the guinea pigs are happy about it. I'm not saying it kills people, it's just crap.
Don't take the shot. Bankrupt these shitty companies
Then it ain't a vaccine
Why would I get a shot that DRUMPH created?
In his giant garage, no less. Amirite?
Ill take my vaccine by mail. Ill get it in the mail and throw it away just like they did to trump votes
I identify as fully vaccinated. Does that count?
Hell na no shots for me or my family I’m not willing too SUCIDE myself
MORONIC! They really do not understand what immunization means.
no and fuck that...come at me with that needle and i'll stick it in your eye......
This is Canada in a nutshell.
"YOU DON' T CARE ABOUT OTHER PEOPLE!!!!"
People are all too proudly sending me their post vaccination selfies like I give a damn
I have a covid vaccination card. 😉
This doesn't make sense
My coworker yesterday "but you work around people"
Exactly... whether or not other people get the shot has no effect on you if you already got it. So stupid
here , now everyone can be vaccinated. hope this makes you feel better: https://anonfiles.com/j009aeJ5t5/CDCShotCardCOVID19EnSp_pdf
This is brilliant. Who made this??
Got enough shots in the Army. Ain't getting anymore.
True. Concerns about the speed of the development of this vaccine are not the same as being antivax. But there are lots of comments at the top of this thread by those who say that they’re never going to take this shot. That sure seems antivax to me.
The woman in the picture should wait a few days. Vaccine sufferers say the depressive side effects wear off.
https://www.reddit.com/r/CovidVaccinated/comments/m76n4k/wife_and_i_are_both_experiencing_mild_depressive/