Merely pointing out that you don't know what "Herd immunity" means. That is because the definition is a moving target which you can't control or nail down. It is a fiction of somebody's imagination that has taken a life of its' own and will continue to morph depending on the needs. You, therefore, can't stake a claim on what percentages must be "effectively innoculated" in order to reach this imaginary state called "herd immunity." This is further compounded by the fact that you do not know what "Effective" means and you do not know what "innoculated" means. In short, you can't define the materials so, now that I've challenged you on the definition; you will probably "google" the answers and will cite the source of the CDC or some study that uses their own language to describe the words. You will be surprised that they stake claims based on theory and conjecture, so even appealing to "authority," does no good here, since the authorities, we can observe, are in even worse shape. In short, if you were consistent with your beliefs, the colloquial debate is with yourself.