Seattle, Washington, and Pittsburg all saw anti-globalism riots in that era. At the time, I didn't like the actors, but certainly agreed with elements of their argument and was alarmed at some of the disturbing police actions at the margins directed at people who weren't rioting. Even my older parents were taken aback watching some of the footage (probably on Fox) of cops attacking vehicles of people just driving near areas. I don't think they were the only ones on the right who felt that way. And those of us on the libertarian right definitely felt the same way. It has been funny to watch the left's progression since the late 90s.
They have gone from anti-China to pro-China.
From screaming about (muslim) atrocities in East Timor to apologizing, defending, and cheering on muslim atrocities.
From hating Nike and protesting in front of their stores to celebrating Nike.
From supposedly hating war to excusing war and supporting politicians who were quite openly positioning for war.
From protesting sweat shops to being super quiet about sweat shops.
From crying foul about the military-industrial complex to becoming quite quiet about the military-industrial complex and supporting politicians who rewarded it.
From hating Citibank to embracing Citibank.
From mocking mass media and advertising companies to worshipping and taking orders from mass media and advertising companies.
Beautifully summed up. My wife was a life-long Democrat and classic liberal who voted for trump this time. She and most of her democrat family have become aware how much their old party has drifted from the principles they thought they shared with it. This really helps put what she sensed into words
Now, the reason I think I share your hesitancy to fully embrace these protesters (same as I had back during these protests) is that they were very anti-capitalist, and they saw these globalist organizations as merely an extension to capitalism, and not as the world-wide oligarchies that they really were and still are.
Now, the reason I think I share your hesitancy to fully embrace these protesters (same as I had back during these protests) is that they were very anti-capitalist, and they saw these globalist organizations as merely an extension to capitalism, and not as the world-wide oligarchies that they really were and still are.
Same here. I've been vocal about globalism since 99. Hated all the wars in the 2000's hated all the drone bombings under Obama. Laughed at trump at his first election. Then saw past the lies of globohomo news. Here I am Still hating globohomo.
I was at many anti globalization and anti war protests from 2000-2010. I never ran with Black Bloc but have been around the chaos.
Yes they smashed corporate windows but more than once saw Black Bloc providing a role of protection much like the Proud Boys (a comparison both would probably hate). Have seen them either intervene as a wedge or form a shield to protect moms marching in anti war rallies during the WBush years from taking a baton to the head.
I’m sure 50% of my friends still identify as “radical” or anarchists.
well;
I have changed in the last decade and so have my “radical” friends.
I ask them “Were we lied to about JFK? ‘Yes’ About 9/11? ‘Yes’ Weapons of mass destruction? ‘Yes’ Flint drinking water? ‘Yes’
So why do you trust the government about COVID?
....
‘Well... HEY ITS SELFISH TO NOT WEAR A MASK!!! Don’t be a fascist!”
Just like the 60's when they decided to stop alienating black Americans and pivoted to cultivating votes through endless welfare and project housing. Thanks, LBJ!
Naive collectivist leftists follow party to principle.
Individualists free thinkers follow their principle to party.
I was an anti war, anti neocon, pro wikileaks, Democrat during the Bush era and first Obama Term. I followed my principles to the opposing party when Trump ran because he is anti war and the left began to hate wikileaks and praise neocons.
They changed because the have no morality. Their value system is built on a progressively changing platform that accepts transexual pedophile judges and cheers them on because they aren't Trump.
Exactly this. Somehow the left lost its way. Antifa used to be an anti globalisation movement but was somehow co-ooted by the globalists. Pretty sure it's critical race theory that did it.
They are incapable of rational, sequential thought. Zero self awareness. Ruled by doubt and insecurity the mind of the leftists sleeplessly seeks out any advantage over their fellow man no matter how small, inaccurate or temporary. Their shrunken self worth and hopelessly fractured integrity compel them to flee when no one is pursuing, attack the innocent and hate without cause. In a word, they are trash
Seattle, Washington, and Pittsburg all saw anti-globalism riots in that era. At the time, I didn't like the actors, but certainly agreed with elements of their argument and was alarmed at some of the disturbing police actions at the margins directed at people who weren't rioting. Even my older parents were taken aback watching some of the footage (probably on Fox) of cops attacking vehicles of people just driving near areas. I don't think they were the only ones on the right who felt that way. And those of us on the libertarian right definitely felt the same way. It has been funny to watch the left's progression since the late 90s.
They have gone from anti-China to pro-China.
From screaming about (muslim) atrocities in East Timor to apologizing, defending, and cheering on muslim atrocities.
From hating Nike and protesting in front of their stores to celebrating Nike.
From supposedly hating war to excusing war and supporting politicians who were quite openly positioning for war.
From protesting sweat shops to being super quiet about sweat shops.
From crying foul about the military-industrial complex to becoming quite quiet about the military-industrial complex and supporting politicians who rewarded it.
From hating Citibank to embracing Citibank.
From mocking mass media and advertising companies to worshipping and taking orders from mass media and advertising companies.
Quality comment.
Agreed, but not so sure they were "anti-China." Clinton secretly allowed China to steal our ICBM tech back in 1989.
You're correct. The China infiltration started several years before the late 90's timeframe the OP suggested.
People forget that Bill Clinton was actually fined for taking CCP campaign contributions just a year before he ushered them into the WTO.
Beautifully summed up. My wife was a life-long Democrat and classic liberal who voted for trump this time. She and most of her democrat family have become aware how much their old party has drifted from the principles they thought they shared with it. This really helps put what she sensed into words
Now, the reason I think I share your hesitancy to fully embrace these protesters (same as I had back during these protests) is that they were very anti-capitalist, and they saw these globalist organizations as merely an extension to capitalism, and not as the world-wide oligarchies that they really were and still are.
Precisely.
And they went from being deeply suspicious of the intelligence agencies to lapping it all up.
This. I also let out going from loving Wikileaks to crying that it's Russian disinfo and supporting a politician who wanted to drone strike Assange.
Bad parenting is to blame!
George Soros started paying them to like it.
This x100000
I've been here all along and it's a crazy thing to watch. Double think and double speak.
Same here. I've been vocal about globalism since 99. Hated all the wars in the 2000's hated all the drone bombings under Obama. Laughed at trump at his first election. Then saw past the lies of globohomo news. Here I am Still hating globohomo.
Indoctrination is some powerful stuff.
Also very true
It is crazy to think about. I assume they're just that impressionable that they'll protest against whatever is the outrage du jour.
I was at many anti globalization and anti war protests from 2000-2010. I never ran with Black Bloc but have been around the chaos.
Yes they smashed corporate windows but more than once saw Black Bloc providing a role of protection much like the Proud Boys (a comparison both would probably hate). Have seen them either intervene as a wedge or form a shield to protect moms marching in anti war rallies during the WBush years from taking a baton to the head.
I’m sure 50% of my friends still identify as “radical” or anarchists.
well;
I have changed in the last decade and so have my “radical” friends.
I ask them “Were we lied to about JFK? ‘Yes’ About 9/11? ‘Yes’ Weapons of mass destruction? ‘Yes’ Flint drinking water? ‘Yes’
So why do you trust the government about COVID?
....
‘Well... HEY ITS SELFISH TO NOT WEAR A MASK!!! Don’t be a fascist!”
sigh.
They stand in opposition to the American people always.
Great meme OP.
I've helped it grow wings and distributed to my contact list.
The strategy of the left changed.
Just like the 60's when they decided to stop alienating black Americans and pivoted to cultivating votes through endless welfare and project housing. Thanks, LBJ!
Naive collectivist leftists follow party to principle. Individualists free thinkers follow their principle to party.
I was an anti war, anti neocon, pro wikileaks, Democrat during the Bush era and first Obama Term. I followed my principles to the opposing party when Trump ran because he is anti war and the left began to hate wikileaks and praise neocons.
Zee?
If you are asking if my name is Zee, it's not.
If you mean something else it went over my head.
They changed because the have no morality. Their value system is built on a progressively changing platform that accepts transexual pedophile judges and cheers them on because they aren't Trump.
Their masters told them to.
Exactly this. Somehow the left lost its way. Antifa used to be an anti globalisation movement but was somehow co-ooted by the globalists. Pretty sure it's critical race theory that did it.
What changed? Tons of Money! (for the ringleaders ;) )
Demographics.
now do the dem/gop switch before and after the civil war
Because orange man bad of course!
Sheep only know what the Sheppard tell them.
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They are incapable of rational, sequential thought. Zero self awareness. Ruled by doubt and insecurity the mind of the leftists sleeplessly seeks out any advantage over their fellow man no matter how small, inaccurate or temporary. Their shrunken self worth and hopelessly fractured integrity compel them to flee when no one is pursuing, attack the innocent and hate without cause. In a word, they are trash
The perfect example of this is punk rock music.
Another example is how Rage Against The Machine now = Rage WITH The Machine!
The whole "RESIST" movement was rooted in large greedy corporations, lobbyists, career politicians, globalists unions, ect.
Punk rock today that used to say fuck the system now fully backs the same system they used to speak out against.
The entire leftist movement has become in favor of everything they spoke out against.
They believe in censorship, "safety" not freedom, mobs over individuals, ect.