The military industrial establishment surrendered to corruption. The were intimidated into throwing out their 200-year traditions by men in dresses and they haven’t won a war in over 50 years.
They kowtowed to globalists and neoliberal foreign influence, welcomed political correctness, shunned responsibility, and failed (by their own admission, admitted by participants from the very top to the very bottom) to even demand articulable strategies from their military leadership, much less push back against civilian political mismanagement.
Then, they actively participated in a treasonous plot against the only Commander-in-Chief that correctly employed them, willingly disobeyed his clearly communicated commanders’ intent, and then stood idly by while a foreign adversary ran an election systems cyberattack under their nose and installed a compromised, corrupt puppet, who immediately proceeded to undermine our basic national security and border integrity.
Now they have introduced racist ideology as mandated training, reversed their ‘optics’ concerns to occupy our capital with combat troops, and began a politically-based purge so blatantly ideological it would make Stalin blush.
A failure of command capability, a dishonorable willing turn into corruption, cowardly dereliction of their duty, and a betrayal of their sworn oaths has made them the shame of our nation, a discredit to the ethos shared by all of history’s warriors, and a blight against liberty.
To be fair, we haven't been fighting "wars" to "win".
The goal was to harvest resources, steal wealth, a d enrich certain parties.
We have no business in the middle East. If it's a matter of national security, then our soldiers should all be surrounding our borders and control air / boat travel.
Pay attention to our borders like Israel does theirs.
That's how you prevent foreign terrorists from attacking us.
I'm sure plenty of good intention having folks in the middle East hate America because of our invasions, which destablizied their counties.
Many who lived under Saddam Hussein hated Saddam, and wanted him out.
Well, many of those same people regret it, and found things got far worse without Saddam.
We destabilize these countries for our own benefit. And not for the benefit of our country. For the benefit of less than 1% of humans on earth.
These wars have never been so it freedom. I was a child during 9/11, but sadly admit that as an adult, u would've been duped back then and would have supported the invasion of Iraq.
Now they’ve managed to use the ‘two-minutes hate’ of nightly fake news Trump hoaxes to transform the liberals into Leftist signal zombies who would turn in Anne Frank for not wearing a gold star and proudly post about it on Twitter to get virtue-signal points.
I've noticed this myself. I find it morbidly fascinating that actual liberal values seem to have died out in the left and been brought back into popularity on the right.
I'm guessing it's got something to do with how long it's been since McCarthy did his thing. People aren't afraid to be communist scum anymore, so the true liberals must flee rightwards to the only people left who care about freedom.
Not that right and left truly exist. All there is, in my mind, is classical liberalism (liberty) vs totalitarianism. The drift is from one imaginary side of an imaginary spectrum to the other, and the liberty-minded people have always been liberty-minded.
Correction. Haven't won a hot war in 75 years (we did win against the Soviets though in a very different type of war).
When Truman and George Marshall backstabbed MacArthur during the North Korea campaign in late 1950 that was the first and only time our military was forcibly driven back by hostile forces permanently. Almost 450K U.S. troops driven back by the Chicoms who had no heavy artillery...no aircraft bombers...no tanks...no jeeps. Just small arms weapons and a fantastic psy-ops campaign by tricking our military in North Korea into believing a relatively small 200K strong Chinese army who had to walk on foot everywhere was 1 or 2 million strong.
However, this isn't a negative if we SECEDE. While the current military and officers might be cucked pseudo-trannies, our veterans are NOT and many, many are experienced warfighters...and they're mostly on our side. Swiftly post-secession, we could have a VERY effective and frightening defensive force while the blue states would still be fighting the Oppression Olympics. And as nukes will still exist, there won't be any invasions - China doesn't want to conquer us, just control us economically and socially engineer us into not being their enemy or rival.
There’s no mid- to late-game plan for secession that makes any sense. It’s a bunch of simpleton logic and catchy phrases wrapped into an emotionally-sastifying futile and ultimately symbolic gesture, bound to fail harder the more it succeeds.
You can mobilize to secure a national election a lot easier than mobilizing the force necessary to secure your brand-new country against a hostile U.S. military and their U.N. allies.
References:
Latin America
Central America
Iraq
Haiti
Afghanistan
Hawaii
Guam(although their military units are still storming our Capital)
Ukraine
Syria
Libya
ISIS Caliphate
“Deseret” (Utah Mormon Territory)
Mexico
Just like angry & random violent outbursts, divisive identity-group victim blaming, and defeatist nihilism, it’s exactly the type of thing the Globalists WANT us to do, rather than the WINNING strategy that Trump is following:
Block and absorb all the RINO’s grassroots funds, take over the Republican Party with MAGA candidates, attack the failed system mercilessly on key issues, and harness the power of an army of ‘pedes to maneuver into formation when the time is right.
Thank you, I'm so tired about hearing about secession. Seems its all our side talks about now. Its a pipe dream.
Why aren't we talking about securing national elections instead and taking the country back?
Also many fail to realize, its not like red states are 90%+ conservatives. Even states like Texas voted 47% for Biden. How do you even do secession when nearly half of most red states are now filled with leftists?
Great post. Talk of succession on this site is a distraction, like Q. Maybe it's an intentional distraction to prevent us from driving MAGA candidates into the Republican party.
"The only time the legality of secession was brought before the Supreme Court occurred in December 1868, when the reconstruction government in Texas claimed that bonds owned by Texas since 1850 had been illegally sold by the Confederate State Legislature during the war—a matter in which the legality of Texas’ secession became a factor. On April 15, 1869, Chief Justice Salmon P. Chase announced a ruling in favor of Texas on the grounds that the Confederate government had no legal existence, and that Texas, since its admission in 1845, was part of “an indestructible union, composed of indestructible states. Although the ruling conceded that divisibility was possible “through revolution or through consent of the states,” it declared the ordinances of secession, as applied to Texas in 1861, “absolutely null.”"
I don't like the idea of secession, but on the question of legality, should we allow ourselves to be prevented from doing the right thing just because a corrupt and tyrannical government makes it illegal?
The real issue with Secession is that it isn't remotely realistic.
It implies negotiations with those who don't have any desire to do so. Even if they did, there's no practical way to divide things like the nukes, the debt, infrastructure, etc...
State Nullification and/or a Convention of States are more effective courses of action.
LMAO. Blue cities are everywhere. you think blue shitholes like Houston, Birmingham, Jackson, Memphis, and San Antonio will let the states secede? San Antonio is a major hub for the USAF and US Army. You think the military allied with blue cities will let us secede? Those blue cities will call in the feds and airstrikes by the military against the seceding states.
An airforce with no secure bases is f_d.
Dead pilots can't fly.....
Tanks with no fuel won't move.....
Starving soldiers won't fight.....
No internet/media will collapse their psyops...
No open supply routes....
The military industrial establishment surrendered to corruption. The were intimidated into throwing out their 200-year traditions by men in dresses and they haven’t won a war in over 50 years.
They kowtowed to globalists and neoliberal foreign influence, welcomed political correctness, shunned responsibility, and failed (by their own admission, admitted by participants from the very top to the very bottom) to even demand articulable strategies from their military leadership, much less push back against civilian political mismanagement.
Then, they actively participated in a treasonous plot against the only Commander-in-Chief that correctly employed them, willingly disobeyed his clearly communicated commanders’ intent, and then stood idly by while a foreign adversary ran an election systems cyberattack under their nose and installed a compromised, corrupt puppet, who immediately proceeded to undermine our basic national security and border integrity.
Now they have introduced racist ideology as mandated training, reversed their ‘optics’ concerns to occupy our capital with combat troops, and began a politically-based purge so blatantly ideological it would make Stalin blush.
A failure of command capability, a dishonorable willing turn into corruption, cowardly dereliction of their duty, and a betrayal of their sworn oaths has made them the shame of our nation, a discredit to the ethos shared by all of history’s warriors, and a blight against liberty.
To be fair, we haven't been fighting "wars" to "win".
The goal was to harvest resources, steal wealth, a d enrich certain parties.
We have no business in the middle East. If it's a matter of national security, then our soldiers should all be surrounding our borders and control air / boat travel.
Pay attention to our borders like Israel does theirs.
That's how you prevent foreign terrorists from attacking us.
I'm sure plenty of good intention having folks in the middle East hate America because of our invasions, which destablizied their counties.
Many who lived under Saddam Hussein hated Saddam, and wanted him out.
Well, many of those same people regret it, and found things got far worse without Saddam.
We destabilize these countries for our own benefit. And not for the benefit of our country. For the benefit of less than 1% of humans on earth.
These wars have never been so it freedom. I was a child during 9/11, but sadly admit that as an adult, u would've been duped back then and would have supported the invasion of Iraq.
All such a sham...
Endless wars...
Something that conservatives should have listened to liberals about back in 2001
Seriously. Liberals back then had some ideas we'd be on board with today.
Like being in favor of free speech. Targeting Wall street corruption. Not being corporate patsy.
Not sending troops around the world offensively to enrich a few men, and have no benefit to USA, a crumbling nation.
Now they’ve managed to use the ‘two-minutes hate’ of nightly fake news Trump hoaxes to transform the liberals into Leftist signal zombies who would turn in Anne Frank for not wearing a gold star and proudly post about it on Twitter to get virtue-signal points.
I've noticed this myself. I find it morbidly fascinating that actual liberal values seem to have died out in the left and been brought back into popularity on the right.
I'm guessing it's got something to do with how long it's been since McCarthy did his thing. People aren't afraid to be communist scum anymore, so the true liberals must flee rightwards to the only people left who care about freedom.
Not that right and left truly exist. All there is, in my mind, is classical liberalism (liberty) vs totalitarianism. The drift is from one imaginary side of an imaginary spectrum to the other, and the liberty-minded people have always been liberty-minded.
People don't declare war on other people.
Governments declare war on other governments.
We do the fighting, and they claim the spoils.
War is a really profitable racket........for them.
You forgot to add the part that they are still idiots as well.
Heartbreaking.
Correction. Haven't won a hot war in 75 years (we did win against the Soviets though in a very different type of war).
When Truman and George Marshall backstabbed MacArthur during the North Korea campaign in late 1950 that was the first and only time our military was forcibly driven back by hostile forces permanently. Almost 450K U.S. troops driven back by the Chicoms who had no heavy artillery...no aircraft bombers...no tanks...no jeeps. Just small arms weapons and a fantastic psy-ops campaign by tricking our military in North Korea into believing a relatively small 200K strong Chinese army who had to walk on foot everywhere was 1 or 2 million strong.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UN_retreat_from_North_Korea
Won the "Cold Battle" against the USSR, but it seems we're about to lose the actual Cold War against worldwide communism.
"Cold war" 😂😂😂. Then we won the "War on Drugs." Then the "War on Terror." And now we're fighting the "War on Racism." 😂😂😂
However, this isn't a negative if we SECEDE. While the current military and officers might be cucked pseudo-trannies, our veterans are NOT and many, many are experienced warfighters...and they're mostly on our side. Swiftly post-secession, we could have a VERY effective and frightening defensive force while the blue states would still be fighting the Oppression Olympics. And as nukes will still exist, there won't be any invasions - China doesn't want to conquer us, just control us economically and socially engineer us into not being their enemy or rival.
There’s no mid- to late-game plan for secession that makes any sense. It’s a bunch of simpleton logic and catchy phrases wrapped into an emotionally-sastifying futile and ultimately symbolic gesture, bound to fail harder the more it succeeds.
You can mobilize to secure a national election a lot easier than mobilizing the force necessary to secure your brand-new country against a hostile U.S. military and their U.N. allies.
References:
Just like angry & random violent outbursts, divisive identity-group victim blaming, and defeatist nihilism, it’s exactly the type of thing the Globalists WANT us to do, rather than the WINNING strategy that Trump is following:
Block and absorb all the RINO’s grassroots funds, take over the Republican Party with MAGA candidates, attack the failed system mercilessly on key issues, and harness the power of an army of ‘pedes to maneuver into formation when the time is right.
Thank you, I'm so tired about hearing about secession. Seems its all our side talks about now. Its a pipe dream.
Why aren't we talking about securing national elections instead and taking the country back?
Also many fail to realize, its not like red states are 90%+ conservatives. Even states like Texas voted 47% for Biden. How do you even do secession when nearly half of most red states are now filled with leftists?
'Voted'
There is no political solution. It's time to kill again. Keep on cucking though.
Months on and there's still talk of secession and this grassroots faggotry.
It's no wonder america has gone to shit when people are this gobsmackingly idiotic.
I think you need to hit your War college books again. And the killing already started — half a million or so in the past year
Great post. Talk of succession on this site is a distraction, like Q. Maybe it's an intentional distraction to prevent us from driving MAGA candidates into the Republican party.
If secession talk is a distraction, then what the fuck do you call anything that still presumes votes are worth a shit?
How bout, utter lunacy?
Oh look. Another fuckwit who thinks our votes matter.
OK, now that you got that out of your system, let’s get to work.
Is secession legal?
"The only time the legality of secession was brought before the Supreme Court occurred in December 1868, when the reconstruction government in Texas claimed that bonds owned by Texas since 1850 had been illegally sold by the Confederate State Legislature during the war—a matter in which the legality of Texas’ secession became a factor. On April 15, 1869, Chief Justice Salmon P. Chase announced a ruling in favor of Texas on the grounds that the Confederate government had no legal existence, and that Texas, since its admission in 1845, was part of “an indestructible union, composed of indestructible states. Although the ruling conceded that divisibility was possible “through revolution or through consent of the states,” it declared the ordinances of secession, as applied to Texas in 1861, “absolutely null.”"
Keep concerning yourself with legalities while commies punch you in the face. Dumbass.
And your plan is what?
Have you actually thought through exactly what secession entails?
There's a lot of ways to force the inevitable confrontation to be fought on our terms. Secession isn't one of them.
I don't like the idea of secession, but on the question of legality, should we allow ourselves to be prevented from doing the right thing just because a corrupt and tyrannical government makes it illegal?
The real issue with Secession is that it isn't remotely realistic.
It implies negotiations with those who don't have any desire to do so. Even if they did, there's no practical way to divide things like the nukes, the debt, infrastructure, etc...
State Nullification and/or a Convention of States are more effective courses of action.
LMAO. Blue cities are everywhere. you think blue shitholes like Houston, Birmingham, Jackson, Memphis, and San Antonio will let the states secede? San Antonio is a major hub for the USAF and US Army. You think the military allied with blue cities will let us secede? Those blue cities will call in the feds and airstrikes by the military against the seceding states.
An airforce with no secure bases is f_d. Dead pilots can't fly..... Tanks with no fuel won't move..... Starving soldiers won't fight..... No internet/media will collapse their psyops... No open supply routes....
They took the money