However, this isn't a negative if we SECEDE. While the current military and officers might be cucked pseudo-trannies, our veterans are NOT and many, many are experienced warfighters...and they're mostly on our side. Swiftly post-secession, we could have a VERY effective and frightening defensive force while the blue states would still be fighting the Oppression Olympics. And as nukes will still exist, there won't be any invasions - China doesn't want to conquer us, just control us economically and socially engineer us into not being their enemy or rival.
There’s no mid- to late-game plan for secession that makes any sense. It’s a bunch of simpleton logic and catchy phrases wrapped into an emotionally-sastifying futile and ultimately symbolic gesture, bound to fail harder the more it succeeds.
You can mobilize to secure a national election a lot easier than mobilizing the force necessary to secure your brand-new country against a hostile U.S. military and their U.N. allies.
References:
Latin America
Central America
Iraq
Haiti
Afghanistan
Hawaii
Guam(although their military units are still storming our Capital)
Ukraine
Syria
Libya
ISIS Caliphate
“Deseret” (Utah Mormon Territory)
Mexico
Just like angry & random violent outbursts, divisive identity-group victim blaming, and defeatist nihilism, it’s exactly the type of thing the Globalists WANT us to do, rather than the WINNING strategy that Trump is following:
Block and absorb all the RINO’s grassroots funds, take over the Republican Party with MAGA candidates, attack the failed system mercilessly on key issues, and harness the power of an army of ‘pedes to maneuver into formation when the time is right.
Thank you, I'm so tired about hearing about secession. Seems its all our side talks about now. Its a pipe dream.
Why aren't we talking about securing national elections instead and taking the country back?
Also many fail to realize, its not like red states are 90%+ conservatives. Even states like Texas voted 47% for Biden. How do you even do secession when nearly half of most red states are now filled with leftists?
Great post. Talk of succession on this site is a distraction, like Q. Maybe it's an intentional distraction to prevent us from driving MAGA candidates into the Republican party.
"The only time the legality of secession was brought before the Supreme Court occurred in December 1868, when the reconstruction government in Texas claimed that bonds owned by Texas since 1850 had been illegally sold by the Confederate State Legislature during the war—a matter in which the legality of Texas’ secession became a factor. On April 15, 1869, Chief Justice Salmon P. Chase announced a ruling in favor of Texas on the grounds that the Confederate government had no legal existence, and that Texas, since its admission in 1845, was part of “an indestructible union, composed of indestructible states. Although the ruling conceded that divisibility was possible “through revolution or through consent of the states,” it declared the ordinances of secession, as applied to Texas in 1861, “absolutely null.”"
I don't like the idea of secession, but on the question of legality, should we allow ourselves to be prevented from doing the right thing just because a corrupt and tyrannical government makes it illegal?
The real issue with Secession is that it isn't remotely realistic.
It implies negotiations with those who don't have any desire to do so. Even if they did, there's no practical way to divide things like the nukes, the debt, infrastructure, etc...
State Nullification and/or a Convention of States are more effective courses of action.
Even nullification is a pipe dream. If states decide to ignore the feds, the feds just cut funding (like Trump threatened to do but didn't have the nuts to go through with).
Or... the feds just send thugs in to black bag any dissenters, dissolve state legislatures, institute martial law or any manner of violent methods.
Violence. Violence is the ONLY OUTCOME to our present situation.
Even if you think there are alternatives to violence. And even assuming those alternatives were at all viable, violent outcomes are strictly inevitable under these circumstances.
Despots always. Always. ALWAYS employ violence.
It's unavoidable at this point. The violence is going to happen one way or another.
Best to psyche ourselves up to it now and get our heads in the game before it's inevitably forced on us in due time.
LMAO. Blue cities are everywhere. you think blue shitholes like Houston, Birmingham, Jackson, Memphis, and San Antonio will let the states secede? San Antonio is a major hub for the USAF and US Army. You think the military allied with blue cities will let us secede? Those blue cities will call in the feds and airstrikes by the military against the seceding states.
An airforce with no secure bases is f_d.
Dead pilots can't fly.....
Tanks with no fuel won't move.....
Starving soldiers won't fight.....
No internet/media will collapse their psyops...
No open supply routes....
However, this isn't a negative if we SECEDE. While the current military and officers might be cucked pseudo-trannies, our veterans are NOT and many, many are experienced warfighters...and they're mostly on our side. Swiftly post-secession, we could have a VERY effective and frightening defensive force while the blue states would still be fighting the Oppression Olympics. And as nukes will still exist, there won't be any invasions - China doesn't want to conquer us, just control us economically and socially engineer us into not being their enemy or rival.
There’s no mid- to late-game plan for secession that makes any sense. It’s a bunch of simpleton logic and catchy phrases wrapped into an emotionally-sastifying futile and ultimately symbolic gesture, bound to fail harder the more it succeeds.
You can mobilize to secure a national election a lot easier than mobilizing the force necessary to secure your brand-new country against a hostile U.S. military and their U.N. allies.
References:
Just like angry & random violent outbursts, divisive identity-group victim blaming, and defeatist nihilism, it’s exactly the type of thing the Globalists WANT us to do, rather than the WINNING strategy that Trump is following:
Block and absorb all the RINO’s grassroots funds, take over the Republican Party with MAGA candidates, attack the failed system mercilessly on key issues, and harness the power of an army of ‘pedes to maneuver into formation when the time is right.
Thank you, I'm so tired about hearing about secession. Seems its all our side talks about now. Its a pipe dream.
Why aren't we talking about securing national elections instead and taking the country back?
Also many fail to realize, its not like red states are 90%+ conservatives. Even states like Texas voted 47% for Biden. How do you even do secession when nearly half of most red states are now filled with leftists?
'Voted'
There is no political solution. It's time to kill again. Keep on cucking though.
Months on and there's still talk of secession and this grassroots faggotry.
It's no wonder america has gone to shit when people are this gobsmackingly idiotic.
I think you need to hit your War college books again. And the killing already started — half a million or so in the past year
Great post. Talk of succession on this site is a distraction, like Q. Maybe it's an intentional distraction to prevent us from driving MAGA candidates into the Republican party.
If secession talk is a distraction, then what the fuck do you call anything that still presumes votes are worth a shit?
How bout, utter lunacy?
Georgia is making great progress with legislation to fix their election fraud issues. Other States are implementing voter ID.
Instead of giving up, how about we push our legislators to fix our problems, push for MAGA candidates, participate on a local level.
Succession isn't realistic and isn't going to happen.
Oh look. Another fuckwit who thinks our votes matter.
OK, now that you got that out of your system, let’s get to work.
Is secession legal?
"The only time the legality of secession was brought before the Supreme Court occurred in December 1868, when the reconstruction government in Texas claimed that bonds owned by Texas since 1850 had been illegally sold by the Confederate State Legislature during the war—a matter in which the legality of Texas’ secession became a factor. On April 15, 1869, Chief Justice Salmon P. Chase announced a ruling in favor of Texas on the grounds that the Confederate government had no legal existence, and that Texas, since its admission in 1845, was part of “an indestructible union, composed of indestructible states. Although the ruling conceded that divisibility was possible “through revolution or through consent of the states,” it declared the ordinances of secession, as applied to Texas in 1861, “absolutely null.”"
Keep concerning yourself with legalities while commies punch you in the face. Dumbass.
And your plan is what?
Have you actually thought through exactly what secession entails?
There's a lot of ways to force the inevitable confrontation to be fought on our terms. Secession isn't one of them.
I don't like the idea of secession, but on the question of legality, should we allow ourselves to be prevented from doing the right thing just because a corrupt and tyrannical government makes it illegal?
The real issue with Secession is that it isn't remotely realistic.
It implies negotiations with those who don't have any desire to do so. Even if they did, there's no practical way to divide things like the nukes, the debt, infrastructure, etc...
State Nullification and/or a Convention of States are more effective courses of action.
Even nullification is a pipe dream. If states decide to ignore the feds, the feds just cut funding (like Trump threatened to do but didn't have the nuts to go through with).
Or... the feds just send thugs in to black bag any dissenters, dissolve state legislatures, institute martial law or any manner of violent methods.
Violence. Violence is the ONLY OUTCOME to our present situation.
Even if you think there are alternatives to violence. And even assuming those alternatives were at all viable, violent outcomes are strictly inevitable under these circumstances.
Despots always. Always. ALWAYS employ violence.
It's unavoidable at this point. The violence is going to happen one way or another.
Best to psyche ourselves up to it now and get our heads in the game before it's inevitably forced on us in due time.
LMAO. Blue cities are everywhere. you think blue shitholes like Houston, Birmingham, Jackson, Memphis, and San Antonio will let the states secede? San Antonio is a major hub for the USAF and US Army. You think the military allied with blue cities will let us secede? Those blue cities will call in the feds and airstrikes by the military against the seceding states.
An airforce with no secure bases is f_d. Dead pilots can't fly..... Tanks with no fuel won't move..... Starving soldiers won't fight..... No internet/media will collapse their psyops... No open supply routes....