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guitarmastershredder 191 points ago +193 / -2

It’s so obvious... I wish the military would disobey the Washington DC orders

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thisguy883 129 points ago +129 / -0

They are allowed to disobey an order if it falls within it being unconstitutional or cause unnecessary suffering.

There are also some UCMJ codes they could follow.

The military is not something you want to fuck with, but the commies are sure trying.

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RedditPurgeRefugee 109 points ago +111 / -2

This is the hard part that people need to understand. The US Military is ran like a communist state already. The government has almost complete control over us when we join; many, many rules apply to us that don't apply to the average citizen. Adultery is illegal and if caught it can ruin your career, for example.

So on top of having strict rules that can destroy our careers and thus employment outside of the military, we are entrusted with killing the enemies of the US. To ensure we aren't all psyco's, there are strict ethical values that we all must follow and the corrupt commie politicians in our government are using those current values as a way to enforce this one-sided stance on "extremism".

I wrote about when I had my "extremism" training here: https://patriots.win/p/12hkhl4n02/obama-purged-conservative-milita/

Cliffnotes: When President Trump said "they don't hate me, they hate you and I'm just standing in the way", he was 100% right. It is no longer "orange man bad" and the corrupt are now blatantly saying "white man bad".

The good news is that many people in military think this training is complete one-sided bullshit. The bad is that it isn't the highest ranking or at least the majority in the highest ranks and they are trying to indoctrinate the lowest ranking to go along with the lies. If they succeed, and it will take a good 10-20 years of brainwashing from basic training on, then we will be fucked. But they are trying to blue pill a bunch of Gen Z who are pretty based at the low level and Gen X, like myself, who won't participate in this trash. In the end it will be up to us citizens to dig into the asses of our politicians, be vocal and annoying. Make them know that this isn't accepted behavior from politicians and that we will make sure they never have a job in politics if they follow this policy. Vote them out.

Source: 20+ year current Senior NCO

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CaptainWinston 56 points ago +58 / -2

Brother (kick me if I am wrong), 100% agree, 100% thumbs up.

10 year officer 80-90s, and this administration is so vile and disgusting it’s hard to put it into words.

Nearly $1B for active duty gender reassignment surgery? WTF.

I spent a lot of time in 3rd world shit holes, never once did I think about a tranny cleaning up next to me.

Pregnant flight suits, this shit’s too far fetched to be a Tom Cruise movie.

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jjacksonRIAB 28 points ago +29 / -1

The military isn't communist, it's fascist. There is a strict meritocratic hierarchy of ranks, there is no forced equality, the society isn't flat, there is no "pure democracy" or voting on everything, there is no redistribution of wealth - the workers aren't overthrowing senior officers.

The only thing I can think of that it has in common with communism relates to communism in practice - that is, when the great communist society fails to materialize they turn into authoritarian states. OK, so it's authoritarian. But the design is not communist, it's fascist.

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Red37 28 points ago +28 / -0

It’s not really meritocratic anymore. A lot of it is who you know and if they like you or not.

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operatorstorm712 4 points ago +4 / -0

I'd go with "it depends" -- there are definitely a lot of postings that are not meritocratic (and that number is increasing; that's the goal of this administration), but people still do make rank through merit.

I authoritarian/top down command is a better way to describe the military -- and it kinda has to be that way. I've seen other countries' military that have unions (yeah, unions) -- not a good idea. That's both its strength and its weakness.

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chelbull1337 1 point ago +1 / -0

What is these days?

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jjacksonRIAB -3 points ago +4 / -7

Yes it is. There are ranks. The "they" you are talking about are people who outrank you... because they have higher merit. Whether they deserve that rank is of course another question, but your argument proves my point. It's not communist because the military doesn't get to decide collectively who has merit and who doesn't. The people at the bottom will always argue the people at the top don't deserve it. That doesn't mean it's not meritocratic - it just means you don't agree with their decisions.

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TruthyBrat 10 points ago +10 / -0

Merit implies they deserve the rank. Do you really think that of the flag level guys chosen under Obama?

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jjacksonRIAB 1 point ago +1 / -0

Merit also means inequality - meaning the people at the bottom don't get to decide who has merit. Just because you disagree with a boxing judge's decision on who won the match doesn't mean that the winner wasn't chosen in a meritocratic process. It just means you're sore that you didn't earn the right to judge the match yourself.

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Southboundanddown 9 points ago +9 / -0

I wish I could live in your world, it seems nice there.

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Red37 1 point ago +1 / -0

It’s blatantly obvious if you spend any time in the Army that the promotions are not based on skill and ability to lead soldiers. I can say this confidently, I served 15 years both enlisted and as an officer. I don’t disagree with your genera premise, I’m just pointing out that promotions, especially amongst the officer Corp and senior enlisted, is more often based on whether your superiors like you than if you can lead soldiers well.

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jjacksonRIAB 1 point ago +1 / -0

Again, just because you disagree with the criteria for choosing who to promote doesn't mean there are no ranks or that the system is communist. Everyone who is part of a hierarchical organization would organize it differently given the choice. Are you arguing that when you went from enlisted to officer you don't think you earned the rank?

Of course everyone thinks they deserve the rank they made it to. It's always the other guy who doesn't deserve it... and that is more often than not because they are vying for that guy's position.

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scrobin 1 point ago +1 / -0

You actually think the majority or a large collective decide anything under communism? You said collective, so im assuming.

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jjacksonRIAB 1 point ago +1 / -0

Yes, that's communism by design. I see the problem here - no one even knows what fucking communism is. That's why they can't decide whether X is communist or fascist. Communism as described by Marx is mob rule, groupthink, pure democracy and statelessness. This, of course, never happens because humans are hierarchical animals. Communists are idealistic, utopian retards.

Just because I'm describing someone's blueprint for a skyscraper made of cotton candy doesn't mean I think the building will hold up.

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RedditIs4Retards 9 points ago +9 / -0

It's still communist. Every communist country had a military without forced equality. Soviet Russia for example spoiled the hell out of higher up military members, they had rare shit nobody else had and special privileges as well as special homes.

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jjacksonRIAB -1 points ago +4 / -5

Read the second paragraph of my post. It's not communist by design. It's not classless (there are ranks), it's not stateless (it IS the state), it's not money-less, there is no common ownership of the means of production, there is no voting. The military exalts the nation or national interest above the individual, it has rigid hierarchy and classes are paid according to their rank - so there is economic and social regimentation - and it forcibly suppresses its opposition. That's the definition of fascism and that's also the design of the military. It's designed to be fascist and it never becomes communist. The reason people are confused about this is because Communism as described by Marx never materializes and never will. I'm not saying communism has never been tried, I'm saying communism has been tried many times and every attempt failed, leading to a dictatorial state and millions of dead people.

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RedditIs4Retards 10 points ago +10 / -0

I think you need to read into Karl Marx teachings, as well as Soviet Russian history. They don't give a shit the method by which they bring communism. All they care is to achieve the end goal of it. They don't follow a moral code. You may come to realize that our country has been subverted by communist Russia since the 30's. Every single institution, branch of government, party, education system etc. Just because the military doesn't appear like the DEFINITION of communism, doesn't mean they are not. Karl Marx himself said that it requires dictatorship to implement communism because the religious and the rich will not accept it.

You should really study up on Karl Marx some more. It's literally impossible to make communism without dictatorship and killing/destroying opposition. And that was his own conclusion. So just because the process doesn't match the final definition doesn't mean shit. I've been doing deep research for weeks so I could understand why the "definition" and process don't match... from the very creator to every dictator attempting to establish it.

If anything, the definition needs to be changed to saying "the FINAL STATE is classless society etc but the process requires dictatorship."

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Friendly_B 3 points ago +3 / -0

I see the primary differences between Socialism and Communism as "democratic" vs. "dictatorial" but Socialism is a temporary state of affairs. It's also "worker owned" vs "state owned." Then you have Fascism (which came out of Marxism as well) which has "dictatorial" paired with "private owned / state managed."

What are your thoughts?

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themightykekfish 3 points ago +3 / -0

Hello fellow nihilist!!

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Friendly_B 2 points ago +2 / -0

A lot of this about Communism is the idealist fantasy of it. In real life it still has classes and top down authority.

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TGNX 1 point ago +1 / -0

All pigs are created equal. But some pigs are more equal than others.

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Jeffersonsghostagain 1 point ago +1 / -0

Not when you volunteer it isn't.

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CuomoisaMassMurderer 7 points ago +7 / -0

Thank you for sharing your perspective. And for your service! As I understand it, it's really the NCO that control our fighting forces.

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TruthyBrat 3 points ago +3 / -0

Which is why we have ships crashing into freighters. ☹️

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Probably_tryna_sleep 4 points ago +6 / -2

As a non military civilian, but one who deeply supports our military (or more specifically the enlisted soldier moreso than the appointed general) thank you for your comment, and of course for your service. I see more and more on this sub people painting the military with a broad brush implying that the whole of the military is cucked, and while it may we'll be at the college educated (read indoctrinated) top levels, I feel that the overwhelming majority are to the core good american patriots, and your post reaffirms that. We need to take this country back, not with knee jerk reactions, but with calculated and reserved measures, and turn the tide in our favor. While one rouge wave of violence would make a message heard, it would have no lasting impact on the tide. We need to little by little dismantle the argument of our enemy, and highlight how ridiculous it is. When every point they make becomes a debunked talking point, that's when you've won, and every point will surely get there, just like every attempt at communism has failed before, so will their argument

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Tartarian-Kingtwo 3 points ago +3 / -0

I doubt the army follows its own rules from what i can see

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MuhFreeStuff 13 points ago +14 / -1

Yeah, yeah, yeah ... we all know how that world works, though! 🙄

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MAGA1775 10 points ago +11 / -1

Too bad the Constitution doesn't matter anymore. Just like the election, they'll be court martialed and lose.

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Unzipped_Patriot 6 points ago +6 / -0

American citizens: Could you please help protect our constitution?

American soldiers: Best I can do is kill farmers and children.

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tombombadil86 3 points ago +3 / -0

Posobiec has got to get attention somehow.

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yukondave 7 points ago +8 / -1

They own the military, stop the nonsense about blah blah blah

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tdwinner2020 2 points ago +2 / -0

Has this ever happened?

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orange-man-bad 39 points ago +45 / -6

Ignoring the domestic enemies occupying our government is failing the oath they've made.

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PraiseBeToScience 3 points ago +9 / -6

The oath doesn't say you're permitted to just steal a gun from the armory and begin shooting people you declared domestic enemies, you retard.

No seriously, I'm waiting for just ONE of you people to articulate an even remotely plausible scenario for the military to have 'done something' that wouldn't be on its face hideously illegal and flagrantly unconstitutional.

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standonthewall 2 points ago +2 / -0

One plausible scenario:

Resign and stop supporting the bad guys.

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PraiseBeToScience -1 points ago +4 / -5

Okay, so then what?

Am I supposed to drive over to the ammo dump, break into a bunker, wheel out a GBU-34, drive over to an F-15E, go grab a jammer and a toolkit and put the bomb on, then go to POL and steal a fuel truck, then put fuel in it, then go service the aircraft, then go break into the vault and build myself a mission plan so I don't get lost on my way, load it up in the mission cart, and then go break into AFE and steal a helmet and a G-suit, and then jump in, fire it up, taxi out, and fly across the country, and hope my flight simulator experience is enough to get there and actually release the weapon?

Your "scenario" is vauge bullshit. Give me exact specifics. Which commands? Which generals, colonels, etc? What about the number of people who would NOT be okay with it and it would either oppose it, or sit it out?

Do you have any idea how many moving parts there are in the military? Who, exactly, is supposed to 'do something'? With what weapons? What logistical support provided which MAJCOMs?

There is no 'one Lt. Col just grabs his troops and goes and executes Biden'. It's practically "everyone goes or nobody goes".

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PraiseBeToScience -1 points ago +4 / -5

Yep. That's basically it. Any officer and definitely any enlisted opting to "go rogue" is exactly as much in violation of their oath as they apparently are for not... I guess... shooting Biden dead on the spot?

Additionally, there is literally no legal legitimacy whatsoever. There is no constitutionality to the military doing anything... and like it or not, Biden's presidency IS more constitutional than the military seizing power would be.

We can complain about the individual state elections, but at the end of the day, once the votes hit Congress, there actually was nothing anyone did there that was unconstitutional. They followed procedure as they are instructed. Not even Trump claimed otherwise, nor did he sue anyone for doing anything unconstitutional.

The military seizing power would have not even one iota of constitutionality, or legality behind it. And the only people of the public who would support it are lazy cowards who just write tough-guy comments from their leaky trailers on this site.

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roscoeSteele 0 points ago +1 / -1

Delusional boomers are down voting you lol

Nothing you said is incorrect

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Monz -9 points ago +5 / -14

It doesn't work that way.

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WU_HAN_FRU 11 points ago +12 / -1

How does it work?

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PraiseBeToScience 7 points ago +11 / -4

The line directly after the 'enemies foreign and domestic' literally is "I will obey the lawful orders of the president and the officers appointed over me".

Do you think the oath is some fucking Klingon war cry that lets you just steal a tank and begin shooting people in the street you don't like?

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PraiseBeToScience 0 points ago +1 / -1

So whose orders are lawful, then?

Because it also says 'officers appointed over me'.

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WU_HAN_FRU 8 points ago +10 / -2

What is the fifth word in the line of the oath you just quoted? You're literally making my point for me.

Do you think the oath is some fucking Klingon war cry that lets you just steal a tank and begin shooting people in the street you don't like?

That's some drama-queen faggot shit right there. What in the fuck are you even talking about?

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PraiseBeToScience -3 points ago +2 / -5

Oh and which order was "unlawful"?

Even if you want to play that "BIDEN IS A USURPER", absence of lawful orders doesn't mean "do whatever you want".

Trump didn't give any orders either. If the military was supposed to 'stop the steal', Trump didn't order it, so he's just as much to blame.

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PraiseBeToScience -4 points ago +2 / -6

You know you could dunk on me and shut me down for good, if you just cited which part of the constitution OR the United States Code allows the military to do any of the shit your bitter cowards complain that they "didn't do".

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WU_HAN_FRU -1 points ago +2 / -3

I shut your stupid shit down an hour ago.

You need to address where you got THIS:

Do you think the oath is some fucking Klingon war cry that lets you just steal a tank and begin shooting people in the street you don't like?

Aside from your effeminate imagination, obviously. If you can't quote chapter and verse on exactly who, besides yourself, said this shit, the only move you would have left would be to shut the fuck up.

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Husky 7 points ago +7 / -0

...I'd take that oath.

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AmericanJawa 3 points ago +3 / -0

What happens when the president and officers are unlawfully appointed?

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PraiseBeToScience 2 points ago +2 / -0

Who was president on the 6th?

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Fluffy_Indigo 8 points ago +9 / -1

Enemies foreign and domestic?

Most of the government is destroying or limiting the constitution, the very document they swear to protect.

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PraiseBeToScience 5 points ago +7 / -2

Literally no part of the constitution allows the military to just seize control of the government. There isn't even laws about it - in fact, there's the exact opposite, the Posse Comitatus Act.

There was not one single avenue of legality or legitimacy for the military to do anything. And even if there was, why aren't you blaming the Commander in Chief, the guy whose orders they were sworn to follow in that same oath?

And if you want to say 'yeah I'll fight!', fucking twenty dudes with AR15s could've cleared the Capitol Building but instead they brought cans of spicy air, got shot, and ran away.

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Monz 2 points ago +2 / -0

Look, i know what you mean. But the military and its members will unilaterally decide to the X based on what the oath said. This is a leadership problem, but the rank and file won't do much of anything. They will complain and raise questions to their own leadership but in regards of just going against command because of thr oath? No one will do that.

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techCEO4Trump 4 points ago +4 / -0

It should.

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DebunkTheLeft 27 points ago +27 / -0

Every single one needs to inundate the IG with formal complaints of a hostile environment being created by these shitbirds.

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Hereforagoodtime 21 points ago +21 / -0

It’s already happening.... rumors at our base several people have filed complaints over the content discussed

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DebunkTheLeft 14 points ago +14 / -0

Good, and more need to be encouraged. Get black, hispanic, asian, indian and other patriots to file complaints too. Knock them on their heels.

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RabidZoo 15 points ago +15 / -0

The people pushing this shit can take that rainbow dildo and squat on it.

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CuomoisaMassMurderer 7 points ago +7 / -0

They'd like that too much.

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RabidZoo 5 points ago +5 / -0

Good point...they can squat on the business end of an AR while simultaneously pulling the trigger until it goes <click>.

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QuickHands 4 points ago +5 / -1

I fail to see how making a bunch of complaints on Instagram is going to solve anything

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BarrsKFCbucket 5 points ago +5 / -0

Not Instagram (IG) but military Inspector General (IG). Every military post as an IG to provide impartial, objective, unbiased advice and oversight. Basically, if there is a case for discrimination, favoritism, ect... they investigate the matter and bring down justice.

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QuickHands 2 points ago +2 / -0

I was mostly joking, but I feel ya

It legitimately feels like a setup, like all of our biggest conservative media outlets have been seized by those who KNOW that we only get out of this shitmess with MASSIVE demonstrations, yelling, crashing city hall, crashing Deranged Transexual Library Story Hour, etc -- and uploading ALL OF THE FOOTAGE ONLINE so everyone sees, YES, we outnumber these shithead leftists, and YES, we are ready able and willing to FIGHT BACK.

We don't need to fire a single bullet, swing a single weapon or even spray any fluids or gasses. 5, 10, 15 people rolling up into a Trader Joe's and telling everyone in there to SHUT THE FUCK UP AND STOP BEING A BITCH, doesn't require injuring a single person. But I can guaran-fucking-tee you it will critically injure the ego of every soy boy bitch employee there that thinks they're tough, thinks they're going to put hands on you and force you to leave, etc.

NOPE! Pick up the phone, PUSSY. Call the cops, PUSSY. Because if you lay one finger on me, PUSSY, it'll be the last time your hands function.

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DebunkTheLeft 1 point ago +1 / -0

I get it.

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Maga2020Maga2020 8 points ago +13 / -5

The troops failed America.

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BigIronBigIron 8 points ago +8 / -0

Only one person could have crossed the Rubicon, and that person didn't.

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TakenusernameA 5 points ago +6 / -1

They wont while they are still part of the swamp. Ultimately it will be former military that will save us.

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RabidZoo 12 points ago +12 / -0

I don't know one veteran that is ok with this garbage.

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RabidZoo 1 point ago +1 / -0

What was your plan to stop it? You can't just run around with hardware and zero idea what to do afterwards.

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illidann 77 points ago +77 / -0

good. its about time our military started to redpill themselves and started asking some tough questions about the oath they took.

Its for sure they didnt take an oath to protect the billionnaire class of Davos and their servants.

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Hereforagoodtime 54 points ago +55 / -1

We’re redpilled... a hell of a lot of us. We’re just now connecting who is and isn’t. One of our full birds had an intel brief setup for us a couple weeks ago and kept interrupting the briefer with comments you’d hear straight from Trump about China and Russia. Keep the faith, we’re going to be all right.

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DebunkTheLeft 24 points ago +24 / -0

As my last CO said about some woke (luckily temporary) Provost Marshal, "Everything he said, just ignore it. Anyway..."

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Bill_Clinton_is_a_ 3 points ago +3 / -0

Based. God bless you brother.

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AB-IXOYE 64 points ago +68 / -4

Remember that the military had conducted tests in the late 90s/early 2000s asking new recruits if they would fire upon American citizens in without rule of law scenarios.

95% said no and remarked they would leave the military altogether if a without rule of law scenario happened to be with their families and communities to protect it.

Behind every blade of grass ladies and gentleman, behind every blade of grass.

Pro Patria.

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RabidZoo 15 points ago +15 / -0

I don't ever recall being asked that...but that was quite some time ago and I might just not remember. That whole time was a blur anyway.

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WHITE_MALE 12 points ago +14 / -2

Biden doesn't need that anymore when he can just have drones and missiles do the dirty work.

If it ever came to it, they wouldn't hold back. They would deploy a fully armed force against Americans and not hold back at all.

Talking nerve agents, MOABs, napalm, white phosphorous, some of the most evil shit imaginable.

Biden's handlers would authorize it without blinking.

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iggywon 7 points ago +8 / -1

Drones need pilots, missiles need operators.

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WHITE_MALE 2 points ago +2 / -0

All of that can be operated by a few people.

Doesn't take 1 million troops to do all of that, only a few hundred.

We've already seen that there are more than a few thousand troops willing to aid Biden in securing his illegitimate victory, as well as hundreds if not thousands of intelligence agents that would also do whatever is necessary to get him in office.

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MAGA1775 13 points ago +13 / -0

Yeah, that was before the military was completely reformed by Obama and stacked with socialist/leftist brass...before they forced troops to take diversity training, transgender pronoun training, and before LGTBQIWTF became the "primary focus" of the military.

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T_BigD1745 4 points ago +4 / -0

Society in 2000 vs today 2000 military vs todays military

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RedditIs4Retards 1 point ago +2 / -1

2000 when liberals didn't hate America

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michelles-foreskin 47 points ago +48 / -1

Rank and file is trying to decide if it’s worth sacrificing their life for a bunch of sniveling cucks that betrayed the foundation on which the country stands ... their vote

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SOL170 12 points ago +12 / -0

Yup, they should be questioning where they stand. It worries me because Im positive the majority of young people today have been getting hammered with Marxist brainwashing for years by the time they are military age. You have to have faith that these young men were able to see through and navigate the sewer that is public education. Hopefully they still believe in the principles the US was founded upon.

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RussianAgent13 33 points ago +35 / -2

The military is still based. When Trump gets back in he needs to clear out the entire Pentagon and start handing out promotions to lower ranks. (if anyone of virtue is still left to promote)

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Wrexxis780 29 points ago +29 / -0

Whoever comes next needs to gut THE ENTIRE GOVERNMENT

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RussianAgent13 11 points ago +16 / -5

Awomen.

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HLSparta 1 point ago +1 / -0

A-OK

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disgruntled_patriot 10 points ago +11 / -1

Logic fail. Without legitimate elections, WE will have to gut the entire government before whoever can come next.

Until then, that's just whoever the oligarchs select to represent themselves against us.

If we move, the military has our backs.

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aaafirefly123 1 point ago +1 / -0

We are working on it

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Wrexxis780 0 points ago +1 / -1

I never said anything about an election.

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tashnag_01 11 points ago +12 / -1

Trump is not coming back. If he didn't win in 2020, he will never win. They'll cheat even harder next time.

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dizzle_izzle 5 points ago +5 / -0

This is my concern. I mean I'm going to be a poll watcher (ps I'm planting cameras and wireless mics in the buildings before hand) so I'll be doing everything I can.the truth tho, is that even if I catch someone on camera with audio confirming they stole the election, it wouldn't matter.

no one would even do anything.

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RedditIs4Retards 9 points ago +10 / -1

And we've proven that despite having all the guns and ammo in the world, we won't do shit about it.

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RuleoVicus 2 points ago +2 / -0

There's precisely a reason you don't know.

Say something IS planned...

Every fucking idiot going about not hearing about plans, WOULD BLATHER THOSE PLANS

Ain't in the know, that's the reason.

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honk_honk_honk 1 point ago +1 / -0

Could also mean nothing actually is planned. Even if you hear something is in the works, it could be like the old Soviet Operation Trust.

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aaafirefly123 1 point ago +1 / -0

It’s because we are afraid.

The FBI has become the establishments KGB and is doing everything in its power to sabotage any and all resistance methods.

They implant informants (through volunteers and threatening insiders) and they spy on our communications. The moment we try to organize something they will pounce on us and have us all arrested and prosecuted in no time flat.

Any resistance needs to be spontaneous and huge. Only then can we try to organize.

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MAGA1775 9 points ago +10 / -1

Trump should had done that in his 1st term. Going to be hard to get back in now that elections are completely rigged, and they just passed "election reform" which makes rigging even easier.

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CuomoisaMassMurderer 6 points ago +6 / -0

Election fortification passed the Senate too?

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IntergalacticWalrus 1 point ago +1 / -0

I also want to know this.

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froggos 1 point ago +1 / -0

ROFLOL. You smoking krokodil?

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TheEmoEngineer 26 points ago +26 / -0

Lmao. Task failed successfully. Uno reverse card. "You weren't supposed to do that!".

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KekVult 19 points ago +19 / -0

Yep

I've done this too

We were brought in by our leadership to discuss how white the Army is

I pointed out that minority representation in the Army is actually higher than their percentage of population. We are doing just fine

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CuomoisaMassMurderer 4 points ago +4 / -0

Thank you!

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KekVult 2 points ago +2 / -0

Im too austitic to not speak up.

Many of the adults of our world have abandoned us

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RedPilledRaven 19 points ago +19 / -0

So are 74 million of the 133 million voters.

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Maga2020Maga2020 17 points ago +17 / -0

They took a solid 5 million votes from him as well.

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CuomoisaMassMurderer 2 points ago +2 / -0

And fabricated more for Bidet.

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Destineed369 17 points ago +19 / -2

Too late now. Y’all already helped a real communist into power and refused to back the president and the people. This tiny fraction of trust I allowed government to have for even the most basic things is 100% destroyed.

I fully understand that not only am I on my own, I know that there are several institutions and agencies and people that want me gone.

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Whatyougotson 9 points ago +9 / -0

Youre on your own but not alone.

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disgruntled_patriot 2 points ago +5 / -3

I don't see a whole lot of coming together to deal with this shit.

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PraiseBeToScience 0 points ago +4 / -4

Please cite which part of the constitution you think gives the military power to seize control of the country.

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CuomoisaMassMurderer 3 points ago +3 / -0

The business end of a gun.

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PraiseBeToScience 3 points ago +6 / -3

Sure, but you've got the second amendment, don't you? "To protect against tyranny"? Isn't that what the answer to 'why do you need an AR15' has been for decades?

Most of the complaining on this site about 'why didn't the military do something' sounds exactly like a bunch of people who really wanted other people to die in a war they want to have happen, but don't intend to lift a finger to actually fight themselves.

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PatrickHangry 3 points ago +3 / -0

If the Joint Chiefs of Staff of a united, patriotic military had revealed conclusive military intelligence that Biden was a Chinese agent, and that they would never accept his command, that would have changed everything without anyone firing a shot.

That may not have been realistic even if the military were not so subverted (and it is), and it would have opened up a nasty can of worms, but it's a hypothetical scenario which may have, in the end, avoided an armed conflict which may yet come.

I don't think there's anything the enlisted could have done yet though.

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honk_honk_honk 1 point ago +1 / -0

There definitely are people that think like that, but I think the hope for most was if the military steps up it'll avoid unnecessary mass bloodshed. The politicians won't dare do anything if the entire military rallies against them and much of the far left will buckle and run if it goes that way.

When/if patriots rise up the casualties will be high since we can be sure the politicians will deploy all forces at their disposal to fight us, and Antifa and BLM will be emboldened by this. In that scenario whoever gains the upper hand will have no choice but to annihilate their enemies.

Personally I don't expect it to get to that point until the situation is much worse. Once everyone is hurting personally, then action will happen, if it isn't already too late. Most revolutions take years or a rapid increase in starvation etc. to start.

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CuomoisaMassMurderer -1 points ago +1 / -2

What type of mushrooms are you on?

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HLSparta 1 point ago +1 / -0

Well, they took an oath to uphold the constitution, and the second amendment that says shall not be infringed is being infringed upon, so I'd say that's reason enough.

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QuickMaths 17 points ago +17 / -0

Good, if the troops don't hold their leadership accountable, no one will. If the leadership continues to be a bunch of whiny little bitches, then the troops should quit, all at once. Leave them with no standing army. Without a standing army, DC loses all of its power over the people.

But that won't ever happen sadly.

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disgruntled_patriot 9 points ago +10 / -1

DC doesn't have any power through the military. The military is still comprised of a vast majority of either honest citizens who won't fire on their fellow countrymen, or a load of pukes who serve solely for the benefits it brings and who won't risk their necks getting blown up and fired upon for the elitist's club.

Honestly, at this point the only thing granting DC power over the people... is the people.

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RedditIs4Retards 2 points ago +3 / -1

You're wrong. They'll follow orders from their communist commanders.

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warlord1 13 points ago +13 / -0

They could also ask about how Antifa firebombed a federal court in Portland last week?

I dunno. Seems like a rational line of questioning.

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sf1776 10 points ago +11 / -1

I will warn that my gut feeling is that most of the military is either leftist or neutral/apathetic/wind-socks. Especially amongst the officers. The officers are bred to not question or make waves.

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limited_intellect 4 points ago +4 / -0

You are correct. The military is basically just another branch of the gov that happens to move bombs around to countries that have things we want bases near.

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Tallsie 1 point ago +2 / -1

Officers have more leftists for sure, but the enlisted are hard core, chain smoking, women-fucking men. Hard to make people like that hate themselves. It’s also one of the best places that young black men find out that whites don’t hate them. We all bleed the same in the military.

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IntergalacticWalrus 1 point ago +1 / -0

The war fighting officers are different.

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Tallsie 1 point ago +1 / -0

I would say your jr officers are a mixed bag. The good ones top out before politics get involved at the higher ranks.

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sf1776 1 point ago +1 / -0

You are correct - officers who think for themselves or toe the party line are forced out or top out at O-4 / O-5. O-6 and above are party men windsocks. This one O-6 was giving a briefing and he was decrying the Capitol events, and someone asked..."well what about when Antifa was torching federal courthouses - why didn't leadership condemn that as harsh as this?" He waffled and tripped over himself - it wasn't on his talking points lol. And the new kids they're bringing in as junior officers, SJW baby.

Regarding the enlisted, go to the AF Amn/NCO/SNCO page on Facebook - you'll see SJWs amongst the active duty, and it's all the vets who are still patriotic.

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Tallsie 1 point ago +1 / -0

Loosing the air force to “wokeism” would make the most sense, it does have the highest concentration of women and is the least warrior focused. That’s a shame to hear

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Brulz_Lulz 2 points ago +2 / -0

Also, the military draws most of their manpower from the areas of the country that aren't batshit insane liberal. So it's not hard to figure out why this woke shit doesn't fly there.

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PatrickHangry 3 points ago +3 / -0

I'd prefer some trials involved, but...I mean, yeah.

The problem is that applying the definition of treason to nonviolent "administrative" actions is technically subjective, and endemic bad faith conduct has spread moral confusion too far for the public to distinguish legitimate from illegitimate applications.

You and I know that it's treason when a Marxist (or similarly anti-American) enemy politicizes the military to purge everyone who believes in traditional American values based on a false pretense of white supremacy. Meanwhile, they're spreading the propaganda that traditional American values are "white supremacy," and that white supremacy is treason. They throw mud at the wall until it sticks. It's obvious to us who is telling the truth and who is aggressively politicizing the military as a precursor to genocide, but the average American is too demoralized to reliably tell the difference. They'll split about half and half based on political ideology, because we're that far past the point of no return.

The worst part is that the real treason comes from the top on both the military and civilian sides, so there is no stable and orderly legal mechanism for any of the good guys to take action. You'd need a whole lot of "I'm relieving you of your command" from the bottom up, which carries the worrisome appearance of mutiny, instead of the relieving appearance of restoring stability. Ultimately it would come down to who has the most guns, and I think there's enough confusion that actual shooting would start. That's not a great option.

I think the purged enlisted and NCO's are going to have to organize into a parallel militia to maintain the discipline and organizational parity to deter genocide. The enemy will anticipate that though, so they'll drag the purge out gradually enough to give people hope of being "passed up," while they take the time to make examples of anyone who organizes outside their chain of command.

Unless they back down, this whole thing is likely to get out of control.

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PatrickHangry 1 point ago +1 / -0

Is the Pope Cath...actually, not that one.

Is such a thing even possible? Yes, it is!

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sciencebeforegod 5 points ago +5 / -0

The fact that our own DoD doesn’t understand where the real extremism is coming from is beyond disturbing.

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Slothboy 5 points ago +5 / -0

Oh they understand. That's why they are working so hard to gaslight the troops.

Which is actually MORE disturbing

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AbrahamLincoln 1 point ago +1 / -0

They answer to China now. Apparently, voluntarily.

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TearsMakeTheBestAmmo 4 points ago +4 / -0

How long until we see an offer for reduced sentences for criminals if they join the military?

They are probably going to try it.

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Peashout 1 point ago +1 / -0

Reduced sentences? The looters who burn shit down for a living don't get sentenced.

Catch and release.

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sf1776 4 points ago +4 / -0

https://www.military.com/daily-news/2021/03/19/some-troops-see-capitol-riot-blm-protests-similar-threats-top-enlisted-leader-says.html

CMSgt Colon-Lopez is still holding the official narrative though, saying the BLM/Antifa riots are different than the Capitol Riots. He's claiming one was over social injustice... he fails to identify that what happened at the Capitol is still unclear, however there is evidence of Antifa agitators riling pro-Trump protesters who were protesting against election fraud.

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NazisWereSocialist 4 points ago +5 / -1

THEY BOIL US FROGS NO LONGER!

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Amaroq64 3 points ago +3 / -0

The FBI rank and file:
>Talk to the hand.

The army rank and file:
>My man.

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disgruntled_patriot 6 points ago +7 / -1

The military is a much larger organization than the fbi; much harder to corrupt as completely as the fbi has.

But give it only a few years and the military will be purged of its ranks. Anyone loyal to the constitution will be eliminated.

As the government erodes our citizen's rights, a greater distinction will form between the people and a military class loyal to their sovereigns who are willing to kill for them to maintain their status.

This is why we can't wait even a few years to end this. It could happen even faster than that.

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CuomoisaMassMurderer 5 points ago +5 / -0

We should have moved a year ago. Time is not on our side.

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disgruntled_patriot 7 points ago +9 / -2

American's cowardly inaction to the brazen overthrow of America from within has been nothing short of shameless.

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Major_Nutt 2 points ago +2 / -0

But give it only a few years and the military will be purged of its ranks. Anyone loyal to the constitution will be eliminated.

So they'll cut the strength by two-thirds and it'll make our job even easier? There aren't enough physically capable lefties in the country to pose a threat to a single state, let alone the whole country.

My bet is they'll bring in the UN. Oddly enough, anyone ever notice how easy the color blue is to see in rifle sights?

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current_horror 1 point ago +1 / -0

I'm not a brave man, but I'll show up to kill foreign military on American soil in a fucking heartbeat.

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Its_never_random 3 points ago +3 / -0

100%. The extremist training was a joke. If you are a white male, you are a right wing extremist.

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Toughsky_Shitsky 3 points ago +3 / -0

This will become critically important when the left sends the military after conservatives for wrong think .. which is their plan, I'm convinced of it.

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KevO4444 2 points ago +2 / -0

They also want to push out career conservatives who've had enough of the BS

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AbrahamLincoln 2 points ago +2 / -0

So far the military has been 100% onboard with the communist agenda.

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realPhantomFuck 3 points ago +3 / -0

Hahahahahahaha

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Honkycracker 3 points ago +3 / -0

So yeah it's obvious.

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TakenusernameA 3 points ago +3 / -0

The Ourobouros always consumes itself.

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disgruntled_patriot 5 points ago +6 / -1

True. The only way brutal regimes maintain themselves is by the influence of a single figurehead who is backed either by a cult of loyal worshipers or bureaucrats too terrified to oppose him, or a bureaucracy that really makes the decisions and uses the figurehead as a mere font.

Right now, the US has no such figurehead. The closest figure the populace left can rally behind is Bernie, and the cabal is adamantly determined that he never be president.

Ironically, the right had such a figurehead. Trump. It's actually scary to think what an effective dictator Trump could have been and most of us would have gone along gladly with it.

So until the communist DC cabal finds such a figure, it will remain a chaotic and fractured nest of sniveling rats all clawing and scraping for power, stabbing each other in the back and consuming itself.

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TakenusernameA 2 points ago +2 / -0

Joe and Kamala are their figurehead and figurehead to be. What we are facing is a group of elites who are not only evil, but also woefully out of touch.

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disgruntled_patriot 0 points ago +1 / -1

Evil and out of touch, yes. Obviously.

But Joe and Heels are not figureheads. Nobody wants them. This duo isn't only unpopular, they're actively unwanted among the left and right.

The point of a figurehead is to render the populace and the bureaucracy complacent. This requires careful cultivation, force of personality, terror campaigns and thuggery.

Obunga would have made for an excellent figurehead too. He captured the hearts and minds of the communist left. We saw what effect that bastard had on America.

Trump was the same in that respect, only on the opposite end of the spectrum. Both guys essentially radicalized two competing factions of the american populace. But neither were installed as dictators.

And now the left have no potential figurehead to choose from. Somehow, the 2020 commiecrat primary seemed like a casting call for potential figureheads, given its star studded cast of billionaires and even calls for operah to run.

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CMDRConanAAnderson 3 points ago +3 / -0

Here's how we solve that problem: PICK A SIDE.

The time will come when choosing is no longer an option.

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Monz 2 points ago +2 / -0

Yes.

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Joesf23 2 points ago +2 / -0

Upper military brass = cucked

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WeirdoSlayer 2 points ago +2 / -0

This guy is such a propaganda spiller I swear to god.

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Siteless_Vagrant 2 points ago +2 / -0

So... it's down to the soldiers now. They're GOING TO GET ORDERS to kill us. It's GOING to happen, sometime in the near future. Next couple of years, IF it takes that long. WILL THEY FOLLOW THOSE ORDERS?

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VarusSPQR 2 points ago +2 / -0

Enough of them will unfortunately.

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disgruntled_patriot 1 point ago +1 / -0

So can we. But they do exactly as much about it as we do.

nothing.

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HangtownBill 2 points ago +2 / -0

Can confirm.

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KungPaoMcChicken 2 points ago +2 / -0

The moment Biden realises the bulk of the so called insurrection is coming from a bunch of shit posters on the Internet who do it for shits and giggles and are just waiting for his administration to explode from attrition alone. Who needs violence when you can meme people to death?

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BurtMcGirt 2 points ago +2 / -0

But they aren't the same. One was a group of unarmed, harmless people with a few embedded agents provocateur. The other burns, loots, and murders.

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M1A2Gunner 2 points ago +2 / -0

The enlisted love Trump.

It’s the wokeass rotc college pencil necks that are pushing this “extremism” bullshit.

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keepamericagreat102 2 points ago +2 / -0

Just wait till Democrats bring Cancel Culture to military and start silencing military personnel left and right. They got a lot of practice on civilians already.

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Romanfun61 2 points ago +2 / -0

Is a military coup in coming? Or are we headed to Civil War because you can't do the latter unless the military is divided.

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Siteless_Vagrant 1 point ago +1 / -0

People keep saying Civil War. Why would I kill my brothers, sisters, neighbors, just because they've been lied too? Stop going around calling a revolution a civil war. 2 different things.

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Romanfun61 1 point ago +1 / -0

A revolution where you wouldn't have to kill your fellow Countryman would only happen if everyone is on your side, the side of the revolution. And clearly that's not so. Therefore it would be civil war. We're dealing with a war of ideologies and neither side is giving ground. We're experiencing a cultural Civil War at the moment, pray it doesn't go kinetic

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Siteless_Vagrant 1 point ago +2 / -1

The only resistance from our "fellow countrymen" we're going to face is from Antifa. Maybe BLM. I don't think they'll show up though. Sure as shit won't be all the pink haired millennial SJW libtards. They'll keep themselves tucked safely out of the way. And as far as I'm concerned Antifa members gave up their nationality and constitutional rights when they joined the enemy.

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Romanfun61 2 points ago +2 / -0

And what about the military that everybody seems to have lost faith in? There your fellow countrymen and they have the armor and other true weapons of war. What a boils down to is not what you decide to call it, it boils down to a situation that we even need to discuss it and this all falls in the lap of those that reside within the Beltway. The Democrats hunger for socialism and the Republicans with their go along to get along attitude. Fuck these conversations suck and should not be necessary. All I can truly say is keep your head down and your powder dry brother. FUCK!

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Siteless_Vagrant 2 points ago +2 / -0

Back in the day, the redcoats were our countrymen too. We won that war, in part because we didn't run around killing civilian supporters of the crown. Whatever it comes to, and hopefully nothing more than an election do- over, but I think it's well past that point, we've got the number and we WILL be victorious! Remember, GOD WILLS IT!

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DorktownUSA 1 point ago +1 / -0

Uh.....patriot Whig and crown loyalist militias spent the whole war fighting each other, the colonial and British regulars, and killed plenty of their neighbors and fellow “countrymen”.

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VikingHalo45 1 point ago +1 / -0

"What are they going to do? Fire all of us? "

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Trump2AM 1 point ago +1 / -0

Yes the fall of Biden will come crashing. He climbed very high and promised a lot. I expect frustration will take over and party sympathy will fast forgotten. And they only voted Biden because they hate Trump.

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Minn2000 1 point ago +1 / -0

If people were are trained not to ask questions start asking questions, you may be doing something wrong.

And by "may be" I mean "are".

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JBlaze056 1 point ago +1 / -0

Not every echelon!

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mrmrmrj 1 point ago +1 / -0

Make them live by their own rules is the best offense.

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YourWifesBoyfriend 1 point ago +1 / -0

this isn't breaking news

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TwoPlusTwoEqualsFour 1 point ago +1 / -0

Too bad that the military mutts will follow orders till the end of time. Fucking dogs.

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HKFan 1 point ago +1 / -0

We'll have "political officers" in the military at some point. They'll frame it as an expansion of the AG corps, but that's exactly what it'll be, political officers

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froggos 1 point ago +1 / -0

I don't think this is failing at all if you consider a few things. The task of these things is to (illegally) plant the DoD's flag in a partisan camp and to create a climate of fear within the organization, with leaders being used to tell a huge portion of the worker bees that they are not wanted, and to mold the young, dumb, and impressionable enlisteds and junior officers by making it clear that their only path to advancement lies in how well they can be 21st century causebots. They've succeeded.

Second, is it just the Army or is it all branches that did away with using soldiers' photos during promotion boards? I can't wait for that virtue signalling effort to have the very opposite result from what they wanted because everybody knows that certain protected classes are advanced at rates not reflective of their service histories.

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WildRiot 1 point ago +1 / -0

Sadly im going to call this fake news i wish was real. Lately if it is too good to be true, its not

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ReorderPoint 1 point ago +1 / -0

Awesome.