And, in addition to that, I'm guessing this is based off of the number of citizens, not the number of taxpayers. Plenty of people pay near nothing, or absolutely nothing, in taxes.
The US labor force is about 160 million. Unfortunately 10 million of those are unemployed, though do pay (a little) taxes on unemployment benefits, though the Covid bonuses are pretty insane.
Anyway, from the 160 million half pay taxes that have any meaningful impact. The top 50% of tax payers by income pay 96% if all income taxes. The bottom 50% pays 4% of all collected FIC.
Well technically it’s money the state gives you and the feds want to tax it. Then the feds turn around and give states money depending on how politics are going. Just a power grab.
Fiat is currency NOT money it's currency and worthless deposits at that. It's a slave system designed to trick you into signing real assets as collateral for a loan whose value is totally imaginary.
sure thing. all that doesn't change anything. The stock market, and the dollar arnt going away in your life time and jerking off to apocalypse fantasy so your 2.1 bitcoins make you a millionaire won't change it.
I won't make the "it's all gonna burn" call again cuz I was wrong once, but nothing lasts forever. Every fiat currency implodes eventually, petrodollar will too. Currency imploding doesn't really imply everything falls apart though.
It hasn't yet. Humans always push forward. The idiots who think otherwise are just that, or have some shit to sell. Gold has never lost value in all human history, so there is that.
That reminds me. I had a theory about how is it the FBI and DHS consider white conservatives to be terrorists protest every few years between work gigs and blacks & liberal anarchists are considered peaceful protesters while they burn down the country for months at a time.
One of these two groups are productive workers.....get back to work crackers!
Because they know that dirty white boys built this country and continue to keep the whole horse and pony show moving. If they ever get together for their best interests again the whole enchilada will crumble.
Taxation is fundamentally immoral and ought to be totally abolished, I will not fight over who is forced to pay to benefit who; I will fight the institution of theft itself.
Well then I hate to tell you, only 10% at most of the spending is going to anyone let alone just lazy bums. The point of the whole thing is to give over 1.5 trillion to pet leftist causes and projects.
Oh it matters still. Your taxes your income, your property is the guarantee for all the fake cash. Once you become destitute due to extraction the money will dry up in value, though not in quantity.
Downvote away, but you mean some of the third worlders who are probably more based than the average CA white dude? It’s funny how you berate third worlders, yet fail to understand that they still have their women in check. Last time I checked, there are no tranny issues in most third world countries. That degeneracy is prevalent in non-third world countries only. As a result they’ll probably breed more than the average first world retard who champions for trannies or homos or feminism.
They didn't need to destroy the culture of 3rd world countries with the BS they've been actively spreading here for decades. 3rd world countries are already exactly where they want them.
11,859 to fuck other countries up, create refugees and crises, then provide the solution that is entry into America, and boom more dem votes. So basically 11,859 to pay for Dem votes.
It's not irrelevant, it's the man's name, lol. Yes, you are fragile for throwing a tantrum over someone correcting the spelling of a man's name. Is that really a confusing concept for you?
This math isn't even close to right. Half of taxpayers don't pay taxes anyway. And a large portion of those who do pay taxes don't get a stimulus payment because they earn too much.
So really its +1,400 for half the country and closer to 100k debt for actual taxpayers.
The most glaring is it says 134 million instead of 134 billion to tax payers but then again probably the only way the truth can be spread when there's some flaw so libtards can dismiss outright instead of confront the truth
Idk if we're our own worst enemy or what but a lot of the "facts" memes on here drop dead at first search or calculator. Sometimes I think maybe we're being astroturfed these things to look bad when we share the memes but then I remember that I like upvoting funny memes without checking if 2+2=4 and people literally make and post memes while shitting sometimes.
I agree just pointing it out that the math is wrong, didn't bother to check the right figures just figured that was meant to be in the billions instead of in the millions. The message still stands the conclusion seems right but that "off figure" is exactly what people love to see to outright dismiss a valid conclusion.
Actually it says tax payers so it's the amount of people who will receive the $1,400.00 checks. So I'm wrong lol
its 134 million taxpayers not 134 million dollars to taxpayers. The 134 million taxpayers number is sort of right (if you count households as taxpayers), but most "taxpayers" actually pay no tax, so the number is around half of this.
Would be interesting to see landlords sue under 5th amendment. The gov has not paid them for the property as required by the constitution. Not that our SCOTUS gives a flying fig.
Considering as how there's a ton of people who moved to PA from NYC and think that even our most overpriced apts/houses are dirt cheap, landlords won't have any problem filling the vacated apartments. More people will join the homeless.
For real, though - if a landlord wants you out, they will just not renew the lease or find some lease violation. It's hard for the mom and pop landlords, but the corporate landlords wouldn't let an eviction moratorium stop them.
The sad thing was they weren't really a secret until we discovered that James Alefantis' Instagram was showing abhorrent child bondage in plain sight for the world to see.
The greed of our public servants is soul crushing and disgusting.
The fact human trafficking is allowed and broadly ignored (especially by those outraged by the slavery in this country which ended about 150 years ago) is beyond anything acceptable.
But hey -- they cheated hard enough to install a person who took showers with his teenage daughter -- so I shouldn't be surprised -- maybe I am just old fashioned.
Yeah, the problem is, most people are too stupid to realize this. It's even worse for me because I got ZERO dollars from all these bullshit "stimulus" payments.
Since this is financed by borrowing and future bailout money printing, the primary losers are dollar holders not taxpayers, although they obviously overlap.
I literally said this in another post about 85% of the package goes to private organizations for research in other countries or upkeep of historical properties ALL ran by people connected to get rich. I was told they just printed the money and no one was paying for it. EITHER WAY WERE PAYING FOR RICH PEOPLE TO GET MORE RICH!! AND THE MIDDLE CLASS IS BEING DISOLVED!
I paid $55k in taxes and I don't qualify for any stimulus check. When the company I worked for filed bankruptcy a few years back, didn't qualify for unemployment either. Funny thing is, I earn all of my money overseas but that don't matter to the government, which is the biggest leech on society.
And to think we'll have to file and pay for more of this nonsense? UGH!
Remy from Reason gives us a little humor on the issue:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oeA3s77O9Yo
Best Code Ever
It's even worse than this. If you're one of the taxpayers that made too much money, you don't even get any stimulus, so some of us just straight up lost the full $13k.
Hell, this doesn't even account for the fact that the dollar has lost over 10% of its value in the last year because of this insanity. In fact, it's now nearing 15%. That means every single American took a 10% pay cut and lost 10% of their net worth because of all this debt creation/dollar printing. This isn't a net positive for ANYONE.
Not to mention, our interest payment on the national debt will exceed 600 billion this year and more every year in the future. Gee, I wonder what happens when our interest payment is 25% of the revenue the government can generate? Or 50%? Only good things, I'm sure.
Toss on the fact that the petrodollar is nearing its inevitable end which means tightening our belts is more important than ever, and we've got ourselves a nice little horrific disaster on our hands. Gen Z has no idea how horrific the 2nd half of their lives will be.
and keep in mind this entire thing was to make up for the economy loosing like 20 times the cost of this thing due to lost business. I'm sure those who are missing the better part of a year's wages and still don't have a job yet are going to be just fine now that they've got $2k.
The Great Reset is something everyone should be against. But the left loves it cause they get to be lazy and stupid freely in such a disgusting system.
That's why I claim 5 dependants on my W2 withholdings and refuse to file a tax return at the end of the year. They barely take out federal or state taxes while still paying into SSI and Medicare and I get my money up front every pay period instead of giving it all to the wasteful federal government to spend on critical race theory and gender programs overseas..
SAME, and to Thurston Howell the third, you change this number on what's called a W-4 form which you can get from your employer. Note, however, that the commies changed the laws this year and it is no longer called this iirc, but the process should be similar.
Double that number, twice (2 stimulus checks in a year). The other reason it doubles is that half of the people who file taxes don’t pay any meaningful federal income tax. Sure they will pay medicare and social security payments, but not that many dollars in FIC.
An accountant friend of mine put it this way: If you didn't return the stimulus money you were equitably stimulated. Meaning, you are liable for any additional taxes levied on you.
How many taxpayers don’t even qualify?
came here to say the same!
the fuzzy math was probably done by a leftist intending to say "see, its not so bad!"
considering i wont get a check, and other will but don't pay taxes, i'm figuring my tax burden is in the millions...
And, in addition to that, I'm guessing this is based off of the number of citizens, not the number of taxpayers. Plenty of people pay near nothing, or absolutely nothing, in taxes.
More than 40% of adults in this country do not pay any income tax. I believe the 143,000,000 number is the total amount of adults in the U.S.
No. The estimate is 253,000,000 adults. The number checks out.
The US labor force is about 160 million. Unfortunately 10 million of those are unemployed, though do pay (a little) taxes on unemployment benefits, though the Covid bonuses are pretty insane.
Anyway, from the 160 million half pay taxes that have any meaningful impact. The top 50% of tax payers by income pay 96% if all income taxes. The bottom 50% pays 4% of all collected FIC.
How assbackwards is it you pay taxes on government money?
Well technically it’s money the state gives you and the feds want to tax it. Then the feds turn around and give states money depending on how politics are going. Just a power grab.
Even worse they file and get "refunds" on taxes never paid in the first place.
I forgot about that little bit of stupidity. I am now sad.
The monetary system is going to collapse anyway so get out of the fiat system as fast as you can.
Yes, I think it has now passed the point of being unfixable. I'm going to have to find a new way of making a living.
Is there a market for sarcastic adults who pretend to be hamsters?
probably at kids birthday party's... or the type of party's where the furniture is people...
Yeah, neither of those options fits me. I'm screwed.
this retarded shit. Nothing is collapsing, there is too much money in the world that must collect interest for the masters too be happy.
Money and fiat aren't the same thing.
*current and fiat
money and fiat literally are
Fiat is currency NOT money it's currency and worthless deposits at that. It's a slave system designed to trick you into signing real assets as collateral for a loan whose value is totally imaginary.
sure thing. all that doesn't change anything. The stock market, and the dollar arnt going away in your life time and jerking off to apocalypse fantasy so your 2.1 bitcoins make you a millionaire won't change it.
I won't make the "it's all gonna burn" call again cuz I was wrong once, but nothing lasts forever. Every fiat currency implodes eventually, petrodollar will too. Currency imploding doesn't really imply everything falls apart though.
It hasn't yet. Humans always push forward. The idiots who think otherwise are just that, or have some shit to sell. Gold has never lost value in all human history, so there is that.
Oh, they'll still be masters, its just we wont have anything, and our worlds will collapse.
If the modern world collapses, I and a lot of others don't lose too much. You mistake the collapse of this degenerate shit we live in as a bad thing.
And all of this is before interest costs are factored in.
i never received a stimmie
I haven't either. But bet your life Jamal and Shaqueesha got every single one, along with their welfare and section 8.
They probably got your guys' in addition to theirs.
yup
Who cares. No amount of money will solve low IQ
fucking jamal and shaqueesha, why do they get everything :(
my sister knows a trash couple like that, got almost 15k in government bennies in a month
That's cause y'all make "too much money"... now get back to work
actually i don't make much money and work 6 daze a week . . .
but i'm a white male in CA
AKA 'the enemy'
Yikes, you are the TRIFECTA enemy! Trump guy, white guy, males guy. Stay safe friend👊
Super Straight too.
You cis gender freak. Scum.
Lives in CA, so at least qualifies as bi-curious with how far the government is in his beesness.
muh head is always on a swivel
it's me nature
The only hold it if you didnt file taxes, make too much money, or have back child support. If those aren't you I'd contact irs
back child support.
my sons are adults, but the vengeful witch won't let it go
Somebody got to pay deez bills
Feel you fam, sumbdy got to pay my baby mama and get me more sneakers
That reminds me. I had a theory about how is it the FBI and DHS consider white conservatives to be terrorists protest every few years between work gigs and blacks & liberal anarchists are considered peaceful protesters while they burn down the country for months at a time.
One of these two groups are productive workers.....get back to work crackers!
Because they know that dirty white boys built this country and continue to keep the whole horse and pony show moving. If they ever get together for their best interests again the whole enchilada will crumble.
Me either
Same. That makes four of us.
and growing . . .
Ditto.
Millions.
How many "taxpayers" are literally dead?
How many "taxpayers" are yet to be born yet will be said to have consented to the spending our current government engaged in?
If they didn't want to pay these taxes they would have requested to be donated to experimental labs as fetus parts you bigot!
You think that's bad? How many "taxpayers" have never in their lives paid a net cent in tax?
Good for them. Nobody should be paying taxes.
Taxation is fundamentally immoral and ought to be totally abolished, I will not fight over who is forced to pay to benefit who; I will fight the institution of theft itself.
You seem to have missed the net part in there. They are happy to TAKE they never put IN.
I get that, I don't see our current government (especially at the Federal level) as something anyone should support and maintain.
I'd much rather see the money stolen from me directed to the lazy than to the violent but on the whole I wish to dismantle the entire apparatus.
Are you a federal employee or an authorized withholding agent for the IRS?
At this point it doesn't really matter. The government just prints more money.
You have to take the lesser of two evils. Giving money to lazy bums is less damaging than using it to fund leftist pet projects.
Well then I hate to tell you, only 10% at most of the spending is going to anyone let alone just lazy bums. The point of the whole thing is to give over 1.5 trillion to pet leftist causes and projects.
Oh it matters still. Your taxes your income, your property is the guarantee for all the fake cash. Once you become destitute due to extraction the money will dry up in value, though not in quantity.
About the same amount that voted for Biden
Not me
11,859 to fund homosexuality in other countries? That's a bargain.
Only if it is successful and third worlders stop breeding.
BASED
Downvote away, but you mean some of the third worlders who are probably more based than the average CA white dude? It’s funny how you berate third worlders, yet fail to understand that they still have their women in check. Last time I checked, there are no tranny issues in most third world countries. That degeneracy is prevalent in non-third world countries only. As a result they’ll probably breed more than the average first world retard who champions for trannies or homos or feminism.
They didn't need to destroy the culture of 3rd world countries with the BS they've been actively spreading here for decades. 3rd world countries are already exactly where they want them.
I see where you're going with this but there's also another side of the coin. After all, there's a reason Ilhan Omar is in congress.
lmao
you see them in the form of human traffickers and rapists
We just have to export feminism and free birth control
11,859 to fuck other countries up, create refugees and crises, then provide the solution that is entry into America, and boom more dem votes. So basically 11,859 to pay for Dem votes.
Everything they do is an inversion of reality
Stefan. And I'm surprised this is still allowed on YouTube.
Wow, you are extremely fragile. What a pathetic response. Correcting the spelling of his name wasn't an attack on you. Maybe try being less autistic.
It's not irrelevant, it's the man's name, lol. Yes, you are fragile for throwing a tantrum over someone correcting the spelling of a man's name. Is that really a confusing concept for you?
Lol, what a sperg.
This math isn't even close to right. Half of taxpayers don't pay taxes anyway. And a large portion of those who do pay taxes don't get a stimulus payment because they earn too much.
So really its +1,400 for half the country and closer to 100k debt for actual taxpayers.
The most glaring is it says 134 million instead of 134 billion to tax payers but then again probably the only way the truth can be spread when there's some flaw so libtards can dismiss outright instead of confront the truth
Idk if we're our own worst enemy or what but a lot of the "facts" memes on here drop dead at first search or calculator. Sometimes I think maybe we're being astroturfed these things to look bad when we share the memes but then I remember that I like upvoting funny memes without checking if 2+2=4 and people literally make and post memes while shitting sometimes.
I agree just pointing it out that the math is wrong, didn't bother to check the right figures just figured that was meant to be in the billions instead of in the millions. The message still stands the conclusion seems right but that "off figure" is exactly what people love to see to outright dismiss a valid conclusion.
Actually it says tax payers so it's the amount of people who will receive the $1,400.00 checks. So I'm wrong lol
its 134 million taxpayers not 134 million dollars to taxpayers. The 134 million taxpayers number is sort of right (if you count households as taxpayers), but most "taxpayers" actually pay no tax, so the number is around half of this.
Wait till you see what happens when the eviction moratoriums end.
They never end. The landlords property has been nationalized without it being done so officially
Always the slow boil.
Good take
Would be interesting to see landlords sue under 5th amendment. The gov has not paid them for the property as required by the constitution. Not that our SCOTUS gives a flying fig.
Perhaps de'jure, but de'facto? They literally don't have enough manpower to occupy it.
What do you mean?
Considering as how there's a ton of people who moved to PA from NYC and think that even our most overpriced apts/houses are dirt cheap, landlords won't have any problem filling the vacated apartments. More people will join the homeless.
For real, though - if a landlord wants you out, they will just not renew the lease or find some lease violation. It's hard for the mom and pop landlords, but the corporate landlords wouldn't let an eviction moratorium stop them.
I have been trying to explain this but no one wants to accept the truth.
I would like know how the rest of the $12k (+ interest) is going to be spent.
The sad thing was they weren't really a secret until we discovered that James Alefantis' Instagram was showing abhorrent child bondage in plain sight for the world to see.
That's called an open secret.
Gender studies programs in Pakistan is my guess.
wasn't that women's studies and equal rights for women in Pakistan?
Funneled the money back to the politicians that passed the bogus bill to begin with
and the countries who aided with the theft of our election
Human trafficking and or money laundering for the people who drafted it
The greed of our public servants is soul crushing and disgusting.
The fact human trafficking is allowed and broadly ignored (especially by those outraged by the slavery in this country which ended about 150 years ago) is beyond anything acceptable.
But hey -- they cheated hard enough to install a person who took showers with his teenage daughter -- so I shouldn't be surprised -- maybe I am just old fashioned.
In my humble opinion human tracking isn't ignored, its encouraged with open border policies
True enough
Yet the Democrats a SJWs worry themselves with reparations
Bailouts of corrupt blue cities. This bill is a kickback/power grab for Dem supporters
you are absolutely correct.
I live in both New York City and Syracuse, NY. Both are Deep Blue places. The governments are corrupt and broke and hypocritical.
They both deserve to go broke because they politicians and their cronies keep pilfering the public coffers.
That's just on the day it was signed. It grows every day because it's all debt.
Right, every taxpayer lost that amount. That's the operative term, as I see it.
Yeah, the problem is, most people are too stupid to realize this. It's even worse for me because I got ZERO dollars from all these bullshit "stimulus" payments.
did you figure in the the 60 billion tax hike?
Nope just the covid bill. The yearly number is around 6 trillion and 40k in cost to the taxpayers
You forgot to mention the salary paid to the 20,000 federal employees required to lick the envelopes to send the checks.
Plus the letters from the IRS which you get approximately 2-3 months after the direct deposit.
This is easy to get away with when most people think a tax refund is free money
It is free money to most of the people getting it. I would rather be left alone.
Suggested context for this post:
https://fee.org/articles/federal-covid-spending-will-cost-41-870-per-taxpayer-did-you-see-that-much-in-benefit/
Yep that’s correct
Should have just suspended federal taxes for a year.
Chinese debt holders would not approve.
Damn common core
Since this is financed by borrowing and future bailout money printing, the primary losers are dollar holders not taxpayers, although they obviously overlap.
Your children and grand children are the biggest losers here .. if you are an American who pays taxes.
I literally said this in another post about 85% of the package goes to private organizations for research in other countries or upkeep of historical properties ALL ran by people connected to get rich. I was told they just printed the money and no one was paying for it. EITHER WAY WERE PAYING FOR RICH PEOPLE TO GET MORE RICH!! AND THE MIDDLE CLASS IS BEING DISOLVED!
I paid $55k in taxes and I don't qualify for any stimulus check. When the company I worked for filed bankruptcy a few years back, didn't qualify for unemployment either. Funny thing is, I earn all of my money overseas but that don't matter to the government, which is the biggest leech on society.
Man how do I get in on the special interest heist?
Tax payer, but got $0 again.
Same here.
This is a great way to frame it.
Thanks!
Can't lose what was printed out of thin air..
What is the national debt?
for one non pandemic year
Senator Paul has it up on his site: paul.senate.gov
And to think we'll have to file and pay for more of this nonsense? UGH! Remy from Reason gives us a little humor on the issue: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oeA3s77O9Yo Best Code Ever
and one more: Crappy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7-ApK63X_U
If only. When you add in all the interest accumulating year after year, it will be ten times more.
Lost negative dollars... That's good, right?
Yep, didn't get a raise, fixed living expenses increased, AND 12k was stolen from me. Looks like I've been Fd.
It's even worse than this. If you're one of the taxpayers that made too much money, you don't even get any stimulus, so some of us just straight up lost the full $13k.
Hell, this doesn't even account for the fact that the dollar has lost over 10% of its value in the last year because of this insanity. In fact, it's now nearing 15%. That means every single American took a 10% pay cut and lost 10% of their net worth because of all this debt creation/dollar printing. This isn't a net positive for ANYONE.
Not to mention, our interest payment on the national debt will exceed 600 billion this year and more every year in the future. Gee, I wonder what happens when our interest payment is 25% of the revenue the government can generate? Or 50%? Only good things, I'm sure.
Toss on the fact that the petrodollar is nearing its inevitable end which means tightening our belts is more important than ever, and we've got ourselves a nice little horrific disaster on our hands. Gen Z has no idea how horrific the 2nd half of their lives will be.
10%? Inflation was at 1.9% last year
This is precisely why we don't want our taxes raised. They aren't responsible with the money we pay now.
and keep in mind this entire thing was to make up for the economy loosing like 20 times the cost of this thing due to lost business. I'm sure those who are missing the better part of a year's wages and still don't have a job yet are going to be just fine now that they've got $2k.
Don't forget the interest payments.
forced payday loan....oh thank you...I guess
And it's going to get worse as inflation approaches.
I think we're in for the worst depression this country has ever seen..
Yup.
Gotta jump start that great reset
The Great Reset is something everyone should be against. But the left loves it cause they get to be lazy and stupid freely in such a disgusting system.
It's disturbing and sociology classes appear to play major roles when it comes to molding their brains in how they see people and society.
Simply put. They are being taught to be outraged and offended.
All need to STOP PAYING TAX
NOW
If only this was borne evenly by all taxpayers
That's why I claim 5 dependants on my W2 withholdings and refuse to file a tax return at the end of the year. They barely take out federal or state taxes while still paying into SSI and Medicare and I get my money up front every pay period instead of giving it all to the wasteful federal government to spend on critical race theory and gender programs overseas..
Who's your CPA? Wesley Snipes?
SAME, and to Thurston Howell the third, you change this number on what's called a W-4 form which you can get from your employer. Note, however, that the commies changed the laws this year and it is no longer called this iirc, but the process should be similar.
Double that number, twice (2 stimulus checks in a year). The other reason it doubles is that half of the people who file taxes don’t pay any meaningful federal income tax. Sure they will pay medicare and social security payments, but not that many dollars in FIC.
This is only the case of it ever actually gets paid back, which it won't.
Taxpayers without dependents that qualify for the rebate.
Not really how it works.
The true number is more how much the dollar was diluted by the printing press going brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.
Inflation is the best tax because barely anyone even realizes it's a tax.
An accountant friend of mine put it this way: If you didn't return the stimulus money you were equitably stimulated. Meaning, you are liable for any additional taxes levied on you.
Hey so... If we let all these illegals in and make them citizens, with the jobs we don't have thanks to covid does that cut our debt down? :d
There are seriously only 143 million tax payers?
The Commiefornia stimulus is $600.00
If you are an illegal with a social security number it is $1,200.00
Not even joking.
Brb gotta have more babies
Yeah but the wannabe communists don't look at it this way. They see "free" money and think it's the best thing ever.