Shapiro aside, there’s a huge difference between mumps, measles and other very deadly diseases which we’ve been able to basically eradicate with calculated and well tested vaccines Vs. this bad cold with a 99.7% survival rate and the gene therapy they are pushing upon us.
Using the word “right” is the wrong angle here and should be noted that “by force” is probably more correct when talking about society protecting itself from a Typhoid Mary situation.
If there’s a quality, well tested, proven way to limit the spread of highly deadly viruses that threaten the fabric of society there would be no need to make it mandatory as nearly every person would want that protection.
The real question is should a government be able to force any drug on the populace ever. Especially when it hasn’t been tested and the survival rate is so high. What then would be the cutoff rate? What would be an acceptable level of death before the government makes my decisions for me? If you can’t define exactly what denotes absolute need to vaccinate a populace then there should never be any government intervention.
When we talk about slippery slopes, we are garnering the foresight to see there would be no personal rights in the future because the requirements to mandate any infringement would be easily met by precedent and mob rule justification. To use his downstream analogy: if the government can justify infringing upon my rights and civil liberties upstream they simply won’t exist downstream either.
From what I’ve gathered, measles is extremely virulent with 1 person capable of infecting up to 18 people and a full 90% of those around an infected person becoming infected.
Mumps isn’t nearly as virulent, but the resulting encephalitis, meningitis, pancreatitis and fertility problems are quite troubling.
As for the vaccines causing more trouble, I’m not so sure. Worldwide, before the vaccine for measles, there were around 2.5 million deaths. After 85% of the children had been vaccinated, that number plummeted to just over 100 thousand.
As for the vaccine killing children in america, there’s been some 100 or so cases reported over a ten year period in this century. While the number of measles deaths was barely 20 people, you have to take into account the fact that 95% of kids are vaccinated.
Also, the vaccines for those diseases are actual attenuated forms of the virus itself. They are far more likely to provide long term immunity. The only reason we are seeing the mRNA therapy is because they are cheaper and quicker to make as growing actual viruses in the lab is foregone for synthetic sequencing.
Shapiro aside, there’s a huge difference between mumps, measles and other very deadly diseases which we’ve been able to basically eradicate with calculated and well tested vaccines Vs. this bad cold with a 99.7% survival rate and the gene therapy they are pushing upon us.
Using the word “right” is the wrong angle here and should be noted that “by force” is probably more correct when talking about society protecting itself from a Typhoid Mary situation.
If there’s a quality, well tested, proven way to limit the spread of highly deadly viruses that threaten the fabric of society there would be no need to make it mandatory as nearly every person would want that protection.
The real question is should a government be able to force any drug on the populace ever. Especially when it hasn’t been tested and the survival rate is so high. What then would be the cutoff rate? What would be an acceptable level of death before the government makes my decisions for me? If you can’t define exactly what denotes absolute need to vaccinate a populace then there should never be any government intervention.
When we talk about slippery slopes, we are garnering the foresight to see there would be no personal rights in the future because the requirements to mandate any infringement would be easily met by precedent and mob rule justification. To use his downstream analogy: if the government can justify infringing upon my rights and civil liberties upstream they simply won’t exist downstream either.
If the govt can force citizens to take medicine or vaccines, they can force abortions, euthanasia, and infanticide.
Yes. We hold these truths to be self evident. Our rights don’t come from the government as they are inalienable.
From what I’ve gathered, measles is extremely virulent with 1 person capable of infecting up to 18 people and a full 90% of those around an infected person becoming infected.
Mumps isn’t nearly as virulent, but the resulting encephalitis, meningitis, pancreatitis and fertility problems are quite troubling.
As for the vaccines causing more trouble, I’m not so sure. Worldwide, before the vaccine for measles, there were around 2.5 million deaths. After 85% of the children had been vaccinated, that number plummeted to just over 100 thousand. As for the vaccine killing children in america, there’s been some 100 or so cases reported over a ten year period in this century. While the number of measles deaths was barely 20 people, you have to take into account the fact that 95% of kids are vaccinated.
Also, the vaccines for those diseases are actual attenuated forms of the virus itself. They are far more likely to provide long term immunity. The only reason we are seeing the mRNA therapy is because they are cheaper and quicker to make as growing actual viruses in the lab is foregone for synthetic sequencing.