There is a better mens club... it's called Hell's Angels... They deal in the drug trade but they hate government overreach, illegal immigration, child trafficing, etc. and they aren't afraid to smack a motherfucker with a hammer.
I would take the ticket. Seems to me that if you were going the exact speed limit, you couldn’t be fined. You could just say that you were trying to pass, but didn’t want to drive over the limit. Left-lane car would be the pacer
I'm not familiar with that, and google only returned physics results. However my guess would be that deliberately obstructing traffic like that would also fall under other more vague and general laws like reckless driving. Traffic cops aren't robots, they can and will charge you based on malicious intent even if what you're doing isn't explicitly illegal in the state.
Mancow Muller, the radio DJ, did something similar to protest Bill Clinton, and the court did not like that at all. His radio station got a fat fine for his efforts.
That's an interesting website. Wonder why it lists political affiliation and sexual orientation, it seems a bit irrelevant to what the article is about.
I freely admit that it takes a man smarter than me to get us out of this mess. However even someone of mediocre intelligence like myself can point out shortcomings like that.
Cool. Better to be a gay plan than a guy on his computer with his thumb up his ass talking homophobic slurs like the cuckold he is. Looking at you cacciali_via.
What is even the point of your faggoty passive aggressive plan? Mildly annoy people that work for a living? What next after that doesn't work, give them the silent treatment?
KYS commie bastard. Its will take back control of the government with a bloodless revolt. It shows that with a little sacrifice we the people can regain our independence.
Annoy everyone mildly who works for a living or live under a regime that cares more for millionaires in foreign lands over the working class of Americans.
Its not passive agressive. It is an active revolt. Operation Obey the Law doesn't end until demands are met.
You lack vision. You lack critical thinking. You are a slave. You love being a slave and would love nothing more than the government assraping you daily.
Think it through logically. What would happen if all the traffic on the freeways suddenly was at posted speeds? Who would be bothered? Why would they be bothered? Now multiply it nationwide. And for countless days. Until they cant handle it....use your brain.
I have a family member who is affiliated with the 81's through a different club. I've had the pleasure of hanging out with them at events. I'd give my very best advice to avoid them. They're a different breed of insanity. They're frigging awesome when they're awesome but can snap for breathing in their direction. I'll give you a tip that could be very valuable, maybe save your life. Never ever EVER stand behind one and make sure they can see your hands at all times. If you need to reach inside your coat for something you better pull it out really slow. Your best bet is to get the hell out of the encounter and leave the premises. Unless you are with a affiliated club member just leave. Your mileage may vary.
I would assume that any publicly advertised organization like this has already been infiltrated by the FBI. Your advice applies even for face to face local interactions though.
We had a local guy who was real interested in organizing and kept asking a friend of mine about it. My friend invited him on a range trip with us and it didn’t take long for the guy to start talking about overthrowing the government. I already had bad vibes about the guy prior to that, and I bailed from that shit immediately. Glowies are out there everywhere.
"Careless" is important. You shouldn't be talking about committing actions that would be viewed as a crime punishable by decades of prison with total strangers
Nobody seems to know what a 'background check' is.
Just print out some SF86s and use those.
Go actually check in on what a prospect wrote down. Visit their family. Take pictures of them. Distribute them. Find their employer. Meet and talk and ask questions.
The vast majority of these organizations get infiltrated because the most it takes for a glowie to get in has been "Dude trust me lol".
Likely true when it comes to infiltrating larger or established groups, but in small towns and small groups they probably don't want to waste a lot of time fishing unless they are sure the fish are going to bite. This guy had also been hanging around a local political group for a while prior to this and "earning trust" with my friend, so it's not like this was the first thing out of his mouth. To me, something seemed off about him right away, a gut feeling I guess. I haven't seen the guy since and I have no regrets about walking away from that shit.
If I were a glowie.. in a small town. Or at least a handler for a glowie.
He would already be established in the town. Maybe has a job like an insurance agent, or some other type of self employment with a small office staff. Real friendly, outgoing, volunteers a little bit.
Or, moves into an area. Has a job in the big city that is an hour away.
But your gut instinct is important to trust too. There was probably something off about this guy. He could have just been a weirdo, or he could have been an infiltrator.
Normally used for the CIA but also used for agencies like the ATF, FBI, etc. Their inability to blend in to the native population's habits, patterns and speech makes them stick out like a sore thumb to the population, hence they "glow in the dark."
"...when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security." - Declaration of Independence
Pedes I want to make a point here. A narrative is being created that citizens who consider and discuss this principle are terrorists, instead of responsible, patriotic citizens. We must resist this narrative taking hold!!!
WE HAVE EVERY RIGHT, AND EVEN DUTY, to address this matter, without being censored and/or censured!!!!
The ones that walked into the capitol without face coverings and posted about it on social media? Not saying they deserved it, but they were awfully wreckless. That's exactly what I'm saying not to do.
FBI is probably running it. How many "militia" groups in the 90's were nothing but government stings? Many instances of a 10 man "militia" with 3 FBI, 3 ATF and 3 other gov. agents and 1 lone real member. They even had agents telling on other agents not realizing it.
No way am I getting involved in any group. Unless you know your people, forget it.
No, they got us to organize WITHIN our communities. If you're wise, you've already had discussions with the fighting age men in your area with similar mindsets.
If SHTF and you're hunkering down, you better already have a plan to defend your neighborhoods/homesteads. We can effectively close down 800acres to 3 chokepoints in my neck of the woods. Takes 6 trucks/trailers to block the roads and funnel anyone not on foot.
Unfortunately, the more rural you are, the less consequential any 'resistance' you think you're going to pose will be, and the less anyone will even give a shit about bothering you in the first place.
There was someone here a few months back that was talking about how they invested in a really nice rifle, literally with the intention of "picking off Antifa 800 yards away".
I had to point out that literally nowhere with 800 yards sightlines is anywhere Antifa (or more organized communist insurrectionists) would give a shit about going. You would have to be shooting people walking across a tilled field to have an 800 meter sightline anywhere outside the southwestern deserts, and nobody is just going to be walking across an open field on foot.
And if you were facing someone of adequate military strength, the more rural you are, the less collateral damage fighting you will matter. Barricading the roads essentially just means "fly a helicopter over and machine-gun us from above".
Totally agree. I've always thought the unfortunate snag in rural living in large groups would be if they really got to the point where they would actively be gunning for people they would just do drone strikes on areas of resistance.
There’s lots of ways, both politically and culturally, that you can get back to that second picture that doesn’t involve overthrowing the government.
As long as any training you do is on defensive techniques, and not offensive techniques, they’ll have a hard time claiming you’re anything more than a local militia, prepared to defend your town if the cops all decide to stand down again.
Even better would be talking about secession instead of revolution. The level of organization required for the latter cannot happen because of the FBI. But it's legal to talk about secession. It can be discussed openly. And even though they won't just let us go, that would be foreign aggression rather than all of us planning terrorism. It's the only remotely possible way out now.
Didn't it turn out that Proud Boys leader was a Fed Informant? That was really funny, and it shows how fake all this stuff is. Like you said, they probably have more 3 letter agents than real members.
If by “informant” you mean he gave up two names of big-time drug dealers, then I guess so. Most people think of an “informant” as somebody who is on the payroll though, and he’s not that.
It mostly depends on how loose of a definition you want to use.
Well, that's just what we know about. Definitely suspect in my eyes. When asked about it, he said he "doesn't recall any of that" which really doesn't add to his credibility. If it was a righteous cause and it was all in the past, why not admit to it? I wouldn't publicly associate with him or his boys club, that's for sure. It's not like they've accomplished anything substantial, all they do is make a big fuss, misrepresent our movement and create bad publicity. If I was an antifa member trying to discredit the patriot movement, I would do it through groups like the proud boys.
edit: i just wanted to expand on this. i didn't get a chance to before mass. anyway, not taking your cellphone with you is a data point against you. what that means is.. you are tracked regardless. street level cams (traffic cams, doorbell cams, ring, nest, dashcam on police/gov vehicles, etc..) with cv/facial recognition all feed into the same system accessible by the intelligence community. this is already here and has been here since the early aughts (maybe earlier if you believe the 1998 movie Enemy of the State w/ Will Smith and Gene Hackman).
when things don't add up, as in.. you were obviously at location A, but your device wasn't at location A, why wasn't it? Those two data points always correlate, and if you're being investigated or questioned, those two data points will not be in alignment. I remember a WIRED article where the detectives questioning a suspect asked exactly that question.. for which no good answer can be provided (hurr durr i forget it every thursday at 8pm when we meet. or, hurr durr i forget it every time i meet this specific person).
This would also potentially raise your XKEYSCORE, but who knows what that system has evolved to in the recent years..
I don't have a solution for this either.. If not taking your device is bad, and taking your device to a per-arranged meeting with other like-minded folks is also bad.. any ideas?
Better not to take it. If their surveillance was as good as you claim, they wouldn't be having so much trouble locating Jan 6th protesters . When they are asking the public for help, they have exhausted all of their internal mechanisms
No matter what wrong ideas some children may have, my church does not preach that sin is acceptable, and thus the instruction is in keeping with the will of God and my church is a correct choice. An incorrect church is one that teaches against the will of God.
Your logic is flawed, it assumes those who are disobedient will remain that way over the course of time and does not allow for repenting. Further, your specific charge is that "church is a bunch of pedophiles", which it is not even by whatever standard it is you tried to pass off there with that line about kids in 10 years.
That’s fine for the French when they had America to rescue them... but what outsiders will rescue US? It’s up to us and 12 people isn’t enough we need national organization and national leadership
Don’t bother. Everyone on this site is now so scared to do anything that they will call everyone who does try to do something a glowie or a honeypot. It’s a way to give up while trying to fool themselves into thinking they have not.
Not at all. This is exactly what I've been saying since before the election. Don't make any plans on the internet with people you don't know seeing what you're saying, where any infiltrator can come in and false flag you. Meet people in reality, people who believe what you believe, people who stand for what you stand for. Get to know them. Be American Brothers, like we were from our Founding until... God, probably just 50 or 60 years ago, honestly.
Since nobody's done anything, then the answer appears to be "and then just knock back beers talking about how we're totally gonna do something, if they just do one more thing."
And then Not talk about what you may or may not be planning to do on the internet, you fucking dense chode, like I just said. Whatever you will be thinking of doing, I, who you do not know, who might be an FBI Agent Provocateur, will not be instigating and feeding information back to my superiors.
See how this works? Only the biggest fucking retard I could possibly imagine would say something along the lines of "Let's all meet in person so the FBI won't know what we're doing! That way we can plan an armed act of violence, and they won't know!"
So you meet up with people who want to do what you want to do, and then you do you. Don't tell me and Francis Billy Ingraham who is no doubt listening in about it. Me, I want to meet up with people who like to discuss civics, shoot guns RECREATIONALLY AND SAFELY, not in violence, and work hard to build up for our families.
It's the perfect plant if you think about it. Control the narrative by creating a false majority opinion, and that opinion is to do nothing, don't even discuss organising or anything of the sort, only memes and gotchas, which have no real world impact.
Yes and No. The vast majority of people online are some mix of stupid, cowardly or constantly lie -- sometimes all three
If you're like me, you're ready for action - to agitate, to annoy, to get in faces, to do anything and everything right up to the line of being illegal, regardless of whether it conforms with "Christian values" or is just a plain asshole thing to do
For example: calling the mayor's wife a dog-faced bitch, to his face, isn't illegal - it's mean. Saying his young children will grow up to be cowardly and abusive like their father isnt illegal, just cruel. Naming his wife's workplace and the schools his kids go to while saying all this, again, NOT ILLEGAL.....just a really terrible thing to do.
If antifa is allowed to do ILLEGAL things that PHYSICALLY hurt people and property, and don't get arrested or fined.....then yes, yes I'm ready to make some people feel EXTREMELY uncomfortable
.....but good luck finding a group of people wanting to follow these same parameters anywhere. They either want to gather to piss and moan and talk about jesus, or walk around with guns and pepper spray to intimidate people. Not interested.
Yeah, it’s not like the FBI is actively rounding up political dissidents or anything. It’s not like they would ever infiltrate large, publicly organized groups.
But again, thats not the point. If enough real patriots joined these groups it wouldnt matter if there were glowies. The ABC's will have intel no matter what we do
Yes, they will have intel, and they will focus on the largest groups that pose the greatest threat, which is what they are doing with the Oathkeepers right now.
I do not trust this glowie's posts. If you want to, please look at his post history. Every single one, poster taped/half-taped on, taken out front of a large US corporation. It's all that is posted. and the email has no info behind it either.
Ok FBI.. here's a tip.. ready?
When you tape these posters up... to try and make them more believable... I suggest you actually tape the poster to the pole. Try not to use half-inch pieces of scotch tape, and try and actually tape the poster to the pole.. not just a half-assed adhesive attempt like this one.. and a lot of the others [1], [2].
So look glowie... if your intention is for people to see these posters, then actually post them to the pole and leave them there. Use poster tape, packing tape, something. Go all the way around the pole. Do what EVERY OTHER SIGN POSTER does.
Now......... on the other hand........
if your intention is to capture people's information... the very people browsing this website... the only people seeing your posters, your message, and your email address.. if your intention is nefarious and you are looking to obtain details on users from this website (an email to that address reveals quite a bit of data about the sender, including ip (ie geoip/location), name, accounts on other services used with the same email, the list goes on... for people (in the ic) with the right access, an email address is all they need to gain access to everything. It would be very poor OP SEC to email that address on the poster.
Is that sign still up? If so, where exactly? Simple enough to answer...
True, but the anonymity of our members is our #1 priority. We do not ask for anything other than your general location. This helps members set up local chapters.
I don't know anything about your group, but that actually makes sense. There's 'organizations' online that have a website and say some nice sounding things on their website, but then they want ALOT of personal info just to "sign up" without knowing much about them. Maybe I'll send an email inquiring for more info. There's nothing wrong with all the organizations/groups in the world, but I'd personally like to see a public group that is non-partisan and is just kind of a civics group, in every local area, basically just an upgrade to America, making it a real democracy instead of the dictatorship that it is now. But, IDK if the people can even comprehend such a thing LOL.
How is this not glowie bullshit. If you want a men's organization, join up with the knights of columbus, the masons, proud boys, or any of the other traditional organizations who already have clubhouses, and systems for staying afloat.
The mulatto leader of the Proud Boys is prob a fed. That is why they are not immediately arrested when they show up anywhere. The K of C near me makes pancakes, eggs, and sausage at church. We have a more important message to spread.
No, you don't have a more important message to spread. Because if you aren't part of your communities with other men, nobody is going to listen to you, and nobody is going to join you.
If men can't trust you to make some fucking pancakes, they're not going to join your glowie group either.
K of C, Masons, Eagles, Oddfellows, are all what you bring to them and make yourselves.
What did we once have? We had some temporary peace but we still had ALOT of poverty & problems, while crooks were in control plotting to wreck our lives. So if we get that back, it'll just be a temporary illusion again. I for one, don't want what we had in America, I want something BETTER.
Yes, we do not have a website and the media does not advertise our club by doing a story on our flyer ops. They know that it will only increase our numbers.
Do not abandon the red white and blue. As soon as you go orange and black the opposition will reclaim the status of nation embattled by radicals! Always wave old glory and assemble under her banner! The second we leave her shade we lose!!!
There is a better mens club... it's called Hell's Angels... They deal in the drug trade but they hate government overreach, illegal immigration, child trafficing, etc. and they aren't afraid to smack a motherfucker with a hammer.
You dont need them. But you can use them.
Operation Obey the Law: 4 cars. 4 lanes on the freeway. Drive the Speedlimit. Do it everyday.
Reject this administration. Regain your government.
That's not going to win you any friends or support, pal. Think the "protestors" who shut down freeways last year convinced anyone to join their cause?
Yes... effective sabotage weakens or demoralizes the enemy, not potential allies.
Not a shutdown. A slowdown. Traffic backup. Get with the program. Either seethe or do something. "Patriot", more like faketriot.
That's not legal lol. You'd be pulled over and charged with reckless driving or something similar so fast your head would spin.
Yes it's not legal in some states Left Hand Law.
I would take the ticket. Seems to me that if you were going the exact speed limit, you couldn’t be fined. You could just say that you were trying to pass, but didn’t want to drive over the limit. Left-lane car would be the pacer
Some states have a law that the left has to be vacant unless trying to pass.
I'm not familiar with that, and google only returned physics results. However my guess would be that deliberately obstructing traffic like that would also fall under other more vague and general laws like reckless driving. Traffic cops aren't robots, they can and will charge you based on malicious intent even if what you're doing isn't explicitly illegal in the state.
Mancow Muller, the radio DJ, did something similar to protest Bill Clinton, and the court did not like that at all. His radio station got a fat fine for his efforts.
https://www.nndb.com/people/462/000022396/
That's an interesting website. Wonder why it lists political affiliation and sexual orientation, it seems a bit irrelevant to what the article is about.
Well...dont hear you offering anything plan.
I freely admit that it takes a man smarter than me to get us out of this mess. However even someone of mediocre intelligence like myself can point out shortcomings like that.
Then do as I say and start YOUR own revolt. Join the Rebellion.
That is the gayest thing I have ever heard of.
Cool. Better to be a gay plan than a guy on his computer with his thumb up his ass talking homophobic slurs like the cuckold he is. Looking at you cacciali_via.
What is even the point of your faggoty passive aggressive plan? Mildly annoy people that work for a living? What next after that doesn't work, give them the silent treatment?
You fags deserve the rope.
KYS commie bastard. Its will take back control of the government with a bloodless revolt. It shows that with a little sacrifice we the people can regain our independence.
Annoy everyone mildly who works for a living or live under a regime that cares more for millionaires in foreign lands over the working class of Americans.
Its not passive agressive. It is an active revolt. Operation Obey the Law doesn't end until demands are met.
You lack vision. You lack critical thinking. You are a slave. You love being a slave and would love nothing more than the government assraping you daily.
Step one, drive at the maximum speed the government allows. Step two, take over the government.
This is your plan? Are you off your meds or what?
Think it through logically. What would happen if all the traffic on the freeways suddenly was at posted speeds? Who would be bothered? Why would they be bothered? Now multiply it nationwide. And for countless days. Until they cant handle it....use your brain.
I have a family member who is affiliated with the 81's through a different club. I've had the pleasure of hanging out with them at events. I'd give my very best advice to avoid them. They're a different breed of insanity. They're frigging awesome when they're awesome but can snap for breathing in their direction. I'll give you a tip that could be very valuable, maybe save your life. Never ever EVER stand behind one and make sure they can see your hands at all times. If you need to reach inside your coat for something you better pull it out really slow. Your best bet is to get the hell out of the encounter and leave the premises. Unless you are with a affiliated club member just leave. Your mileage may vary.
Also very pro 2nd ammendment.
Go check it out. If anyone starts talking about machine guns, explosives, or drugs, GTFO there because it's a trap. If not, cool.
I would assume that any publicly advertised organization like this has already been infiltrated by the FBI. Your advice applies even for face to face local interactions though.
We had a local guy who was real interested in organizing and kept asking a friend of mine about it. My friend invited him on a range trip with us and it didn’t take long for the guy to start talking about overthrowing the government. I already had bad vibes about the guy prior to that, and I bailed from that shit immediately. Glowies are out there everywhere.
You do realize that if we keep assuming that everybody who wants to do what actually needs to be done is a glowie, then we'll never get anywhere?
Well yeah, but if she puts out on the first date, she's probably a whore.
Sounds like something a glowie would say! /joke
This is true but shouldn't people at least be smart enough to use code and euphemisms to make it just a bit more difficult?
Anyone that is speaking openly about such matters is either glowing or too careless to be involved.
"Careless" is important. You shouldn't be talking about committing actions that would be viewed as a crime punishable by decades of prison with total strangers
Nobody seems to know what a 'background check' is.
Just print out some SF86s and use those.
Go actually check in on what a prospect wrote down. Visit their family. Take pictures of them. Distribute them. Find their employer. Meet and talk and ask questions.
The vast majority of these organizations get infiltrated because the most it takes for a glowie to get in has been "Dude trust me lol".
Lulz, that's the last thing a real glowie would bring up until a lot of trust has was earned.
Likely true when it comes to infiltrating larger or established groups, but in small towns and small groups they probably don't want to waste a lot of time fishing unless they are sure the fish are going to bite. This guy had also been hanging around a local political group for a while prior to this and "earning trust" with my friend, so it's not like this was the first thing out of his mouth. To me, something seemed off about him right away, a gut feeling I guess. I haven't seen the guy since and I have no regrets about walking away from that shit.
If I were a glowie.. in a small town. Or at least a handler for a glowie.
He would already be established in the town. Maybe has a job like an insurance agent, or some other type of self employment with a small office staff. Real friendly, outgoing, volunteers a little bit.
Or, moves into an area. Has a job in the big city that is an hour away.
But your gut instinct is important to trust too. There was probably something off about this guy. He could have just been a weirdo, or he could have been an infiltrator.
Pardon my stupidity, but what is the root of the term "glowie"? That's a term I've never heard before.
Normally used for the CIA but also used for agencies like the ATF, FBI, etc. Their inability to blend in to the native population's habits, patterns and speech makes them stick out like a sore thumb to the population, hence they "glow in the dark."
Thank you!
WE HAVE EVERY RIGHT
"...when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security." - Declaration of Independence
Pedes I want to make a point here. A narrative is being created that citizens who consider and discuss this principle are terrorists, instead of responsible, patriotic citizens. We must resist this narrative taking hold!!!
WE HAVE EVERY RIGHT, AND EVEN DUTY, to address this matter, without being censored and/or censured!!!!
This needs to be a daily affirmation.
Agreed!
I think the message is to keep in mind that the dazi usurpers will treat a patriot as a terrorist.
We talk about guns, not machine guns. We discourage drinking alcohol and do not allow illegal drug users in the club. The other thing is def fedposty.
i don't know them, but underground face to face is the only way to stop being spied on
Indeed. You can bet that the FBI goons have already infiltrated any group that publicly advertises and recruits members.
Who cares? Just don't say or do anything against the law. We can't let that fear prevent us from organizing.
How many patriots are languishing behind bars right now for simply being in DC on January 6th?
The ones that walked into the capitol without face coverings and posted about it on social media? Not saying they deserved it, but they were awfully wreckless. That's exactly what I'm saying not to do.
Against the law? Unsanctioned gatherings are against the law! "Show me the man and I'll show you the crime."
FBI is probably running it. How many "militia" groups in the 90's were nothing but government stings? Many instances of a 10 man "militia" with 3 FBI, 3 ATF and 3 other gov. agents and 1 lone real member. They even had agents telling on other agents not realizing it.
No way am I getting involved in any group. Unless you know your people, forget it.
so they successfully got you to not organize yourself. Think about that for a moment.
No, they got us to organize WITHIN our communities. If you're wise, you've already had discussions with the fighting age men in your area with similar mindsets.
If SHTF and you're hunkering down, you better already have a plan to defend your neighborhoods/homesteads. We can effectively close down 800acres to 3 chokepoints in my neck of the woods. Takes 6 trucks/trailers to block the roads and funnel anyone not on foot.
Unfortunately, the more rural you are, the less consequential any 'resistance' you think you're going to pose will be, and the less anyone will even give a shit about bothering you in the first place.
There was someone here a few months back that was talking about how they invested in a really nice rifle, literally with the intention of "picking off Antifa 800 yards away".
I had to point out that literally nowhere with 800 yards sightlines is anywhere Antifa (or more organized communist insurrectionists) would give a shit about going. You would have to be shooting people walking across a tilled field to have an 800 meter sightline anywhere outside the southwestern deserts, and nobody is just going to be walking across an open field on foot.
And if you were facing someone of adequate military strength, the more rural you are, the less collateral damage fighting you will matter. Barricading the roads essentially just means "fly a helicopter over and machine-gun us from above".
Totally agree. I've always thought the unfortunate snag in rural living in large groups would be if they really got to the point where they would actively be gunning for people they would just do drone strikes on areas of resistance.
Just always assume that you are being watched and that you may have enemies in your midst.
It's a strange way to strategize, but can be done.
There’s lots of ways, both politically and culturally, that you can get back to that second picture that doesn’t involve overthrowing the government.
As long as any training you do is on defensive techniques, and not offensive techniques, they’ll have a hard time claiming you’re anything more than a local militia, prepared to defend your town if the cops all decide to stand down again.
Even better would be talking about secession instead of revolution. The level of organization required for the latter cannot happen because of the FBI. But it's legal to talk about secession. It can be discussed openly. And even though they won't just let us go, that would be foreign aggression rather than all of us planning terrorism. It's the only remotely possible way out now.
Didn't it turn out that Proud Boys leader was a Fed Informant? That was really funny, and it shows how fake all this stuff is. Like you said, they probably have more 3 letter agents than real members.
Do you have a source on that?
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jan/27/proud-boys-leader-enrique-tarrio-fbi-informant
Sorry if you don't like the source, that's just the first one that came up.
If by “informant” you mean he gave up two names of big-time drug dealers, then I guess so. Most people think of an “informant” as somebody who is on the payroll though, and he’s not that.
It mostly depends on how loose of a definition you want to use.
Well, that's just what we know about. Definitely suspect in my eyes. When asked about it, he said he "doesn't recall any of that" which really doesn't add to his credibility. If it was a righteous cause and it was all in the past, why not admit to it? I wouldn't publicly associate with him or his boys club, that's for sure. It's not like they've accomplished anything substantial, all they do is make a big fuss, misrepresent our movement and create bad publicity. If I was an antifa member trying to discredit the patriot movement, I would do it through groups like the proud boys.
You are correct sir.
Exactly.
Don't forget to leave your phones at home.
that's a data point against you. just fyi.
edit: i just wanted to expand on this. i didn't get a chance to before mass. anyway, not taking your cellphone with you is a data point against you. what that means is.. you are tracked regardless. street level cams (traffic cams, doorbell cams, ring, nest, dashcam on police/gov vehicles, etc..) with cv/facial recognition all feed into the same system accessible by the intelligence community. this is already here and has been here since the early aughts (maybe earlier if you believe the 1998 movie Enemy of the State w/ Will Smith and Gene Hackman).
when things don't add up, as in.. you were obviously at location A, but your device wasn't at location A, why wasn't it? Those two data points always correlate, and if you're being investigated or questioned, those two data points will not be in alignment. I remember a WIRED article where the detectives questioning a suspect asked exactly that question.. for which no good answer can be provided (hurr durr i forget it every thursday at 8pm when we meet. or, hurr durr i forget it every time i meet this specific person).
This would also potentially raise your XKEYSCORE, but who knows what that system has evolved to in the recent years..
I don't have a solution for this either.. If not taking your device is bad, and taking your device to a per-arranged meeting with other like-minded folks is also bad.. any ideas?
Good luck out there, frens. <3
What you described is why it's a good idea to not have a predictable pattern.
Take your phone with you sometimes. Don't take it other times.
Drive to location A using route Z sometimes. Sometime take route X to location A.
Don't always go to location A on Monday. Sometimes go there on Wednesday using route Y.
Yes. This is helpful, indeed. This requires constant practice and can be very inconvenient.
Also, it requires all members of your party to do the same.
Better not to take it. If their surveillance was as good as you claim, they wouldn't be having so much trouble locating Jan 6th protesters . When they are asking the public for help, they have exhausted all of their internal mechanisms
They're asking the public for help as a threat to anyone else who would protest for the Constitution
A perfect response would be "I plead the 4th."
That's why Church is closed, because, reasons.
Church has been corrupted by the pro lgbtq pedo brigade.
Literally, church is a bunch of pedophiles.
You're going to the wrong church.
I'm not sure what your age is.
But I'll wager there are younger people in your church who are open to the lgbtqp stuff and think it is fine.
Within 10 years, assuming these kids are still going to church the corruption will be complete.
No matter what wrong ideas some children may have, my church does not preach that sin is acceptable, and thus the instruction is in keeping with the will of God and my church is a correct choice. An incorrect church is one that teaches against the will of God.
Your logic is flawed, it assumes those who are disobedient will remain that way over the course of time and does not allow for repenting. Further, your specific charge is that "church is a bunch of pedophiles", which it is not even by whatever standard it is you tried to pass off there with that line about kids in 10 years.
TLDR: Wrong
That’s fine for the French when they had America to rescue them... but what outsiders will rescue US? It’s up to us and 12 people isn’t enough we need national organization and national leadership
They Live (1988) and Soylent Green (1973) should be mandatory viewing for the pedes here.
also network: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwMVMbmQBug
I’ll be sure to watch this one too!!! Thank you!
Don’t bother. Everyone on this site is now so scared to do anything that they will call everyone who does try to do something a glowie or a honeypot. It’s a way to give up while trying to fool themselves into thinking they have not.
Not at all. This is exactly what I've been saying since before the election. Don't make any plans on the internet with people you don't know seeing what you're saying, where any infiltrator can come in and false flag you. Meet people in reality, people who believe what you believe, people who stand for what you stand for. Get to know them. Be American Brothers, like we were from our Founding until... God, probably just 50 or 60 years ago, honestly.
Find Real People. People who can earn your trust.
And then what?
Since nobody's done anything, then the answer appears to be "and then just knock back beers talking about how we're totally gonna do something, if they just do one more thing."
And then Not talk about what you may or may not be planning to do on the internet, you fucking dense chode, like I just said. Whatever you will be thinking of doing, I, who you do not know, who might be an FBI Agent Provocateur, will not be instigating and feeding information back to my superiors.
See how this works? Only the biggest fucking retard I could possibly imagine would say something along the lines of "Let's all meet in person so the FBI won't know what we're doing! That way we can plan an armed act of violence, and they won't know!"
So you meet up with people who want to do what you want to do, and then you do you. Don't tell me and Francis Billy Ingraham who is no doubt listening in about it. Me, I want to meet up with people who like to discuss civics, shoot guns RECREATIONALLY AND SAFELY, not in violence, and work hard to build up for our families.
It's the perfect plant if you think about it. Control the narrative by creating a false majority opinion, and that opinion is to do nothing, don't even discuss organising or anything of the sort, only memes and gotchas, which have no real world impact.
Organizing online would be STUPID.
Yes and No. The vast majority of people online are some mix of stupid, cowardly or constantly lie -- sometimes all three
If you're like me, you're ready for action - to agitate, to annoy, to get in faces, to do anything and everything right up to the line of being illegal, regardless of whether it conforms with "Christian values" or is just a plain asshole thing to do
For example: calling the mayor's wife a dog-faced bitch, to his face, isn't illegal - it's mean. Saying his young children will grow up to be cowardly and abusive like their father isnt illegal, just cruel. Naming his wife's workplace and the schools his kids go to while saying all this, again, NOT ILLEGAL.....just a really terrible thing to do.
If antifa is allowed to do ILLEGAL things that PHYSICALLY hurt people and property, and don't get arrested or fined.....then yes, yes I'm ready to make some people feel EXTREMELY uncomfortable
.....but good luck finding a group of people wanting to follow these same parameters anywhere. They either want to gather to piss and moan and talk about jesus, or walk around with guns and pepper spray to intimidate people. Not interested.
I imagine a lot of people on this site being exactly like that guy in Season 2 of the Punisher with the NRA hat.
Pede, we have more shills here than actual Pedes. We must be constantly calling them out and refuting their slippery destructive input.
Yeah, there’s been a ton of noise lately that wasn’t here before. Lots of people trying to muddy the waters these days.
Yeah, it’s not like the FBI is actively rounding up political dissidents or anything. It’s not like they would ever infiltrate large, publicly organized groups.
But again, thats not the point. If enough real patriots joined these groups it wouldnt matter if there were glowies. The ABC's will have intel no matter what we do
Yes, they will have intel, and they will focus on the largest groups that pose the greatest threat, which is what they are doing with the Oathkeepers right now.
You are correct sir.
I already have an email from them. This group seems like they have their shit together. I'll let you know.
Please add me to your list to keep informed of your findings
Look fwd to hearing from you brother.
Any updates?
Saying it again and again and again...
I do not trust this glowie's posts. If you want to, please look at his post history. Every single one, poster taped/half-taped on, taken out front of a large US corporation. It's all that is posted. and the email has no info behind it either.
Ok FBI.. here's a tip.. ready?
When you tape these posters up... to try and make them more believable... I suggest you actually tape the poster to the pole. Try not to use half-inch pieces of scotch tape, and try and actually tape the poster to the pole.. not just a half-assed adhesive attempt like this one.. and a lot of the others [1], [2].
So look glowie... if your intention is for people to see these posters, then actually post them to the pole and leave them there. Use poster tape, packing tape, something. Go all the way around the pole. Do what EVERY OTHER SIGN POSTER does.
Now......... on the other hand........
if your intention is to capture people's information... the very people browsing this website... the only people seeing your posters, your message, and your email address.. if your intention is nefarious and you are looking to obtain details on users from this website (an email to that address reveals quite a bit of data about the sender, including ip (ie geoip/location), name, accounts on other services used with the same email, the list goes on... for people (in the ic) with the right access, an email address is all they need to gain access to everything. It would be very poor OP SEC to email that address on the poster.
Is that sign still up? If so, where exactly? Simple enough to answer...
What purpose do you serve giving out tips for the charade to be more believable?
Think of it differently... maybe my tip has a specific purpose... now that part I won't reveal :p
The worst thing about these things is you never know what is and isn't a honeypot.
True, but the anonymity of our members is our #1 priority. We do not ask for anything other than your general location. This helps members set up local chapters.
I don't know anything about your group, but that actually makes sense. There's 'organizations' online that have a website and say some nice sounding things on their website, but then they want ALOT of personal info just to "sign up" without knowing much about them. Maybe I'll send an email inquiring for more info. There's nothing wrong with all the organizations/groups in the world, but I'd personally like to see a public group that is non-partisan and is just kind of a civics group, in every local area, basically just an upgrade to America, making it a real democracy instead of the dictatorship that it is now. But, IDK if the people can even comprehend such a thing LOL.
How can MAGA women meet?
Have your husband join a men's club and then make friends with the other member's wives.
I'm more MAGA/political than him though.
Number 1, Hi FBI!
Number 2, organizing in the world is asking for federal charges,
Stay online and work through your local and state governmental elections.
We nuke the rinos in the primaries and start electing patriots.
Operation Obey the Law. Organize. Drive the Speedlimit on the Freeways. Start today.
You shouldn't post these online.
This is how we let other frustrated men know that there is a place to meet up with people who can turn their energy into positive change.
Holy crap. I would not have liked that at all.
I wouldn't meet up with any local group or email them. Information can, and will, be used against you.
How is this not glowie bullshit. If you want a men's organization, join up with the knights of columbus, the masons, proud boys, or any of the other traditional organizations who already have clubhouses, and systems for staying afloat.
The mulatto leader of the Proud Boys is prob a fed. That is why they are not immediately arrested when they show up anywhere. The K of C near me makes pancakes, eggs, and sausage at church. We have a more important message to spread.
No, you don't have a more important message to spread. Because if you aren't part of your communities with other men, nobody is going to listen to you, and nobody is going to join you.
If men can't trust you to make some fucking pancakes, they're not going to join your glowie group either.
K of C, Masons, Eagles, Oddfellows, are all what you bring to them and make yourselves.
Nice try, FBI.
"Muh FBI", better to do nothing instead guys!
More like any movement mentioned on this site is already watched closely and would rendered ineffective in a real rebellion.
If i saw a sign like that in MD id assume the fbi put it up. Be careful out there.
What did we once have? We had some temporary peace but we still had ALOT of poverty & problems, while crooks were in control plotting to wreck our lives. So if we get that back, it'll just be a temporary illusion again. I for one, don't want what we had in America, I want something BETTER.
Good. Then get involved with some men who share your goals. It's better to fight it as a group than as a lone man in the crowd.
Jackson's Legion? They appear to have a vanishingly low profile on the web.
Yes, we do not have a website and the media does not advertise our club by doing a story on our flyer ops. They know that it will only increase our numbers.
On a scale of 1 to 4chan, how based is the FBI informant who is leading this club?
Do not abandon the red white and blue. As soon as you go orange and black the opposition will reclaim the status of nation embattled by radicals! Always wave old glory and assemble under her banner! The second we leave her shade we lose!!!
Looks like a honey pot, 100% nice try tho.