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peltast 1 point ago +1 / -0

Sorry, you don't know any of the facts. Or, if you do, you are lying.

He didn't hold any ideological purity trials. He conducted investigations into whether there were Communists inside the government.

He didn't force entertainers...etc....His investigations were into GOVERNMENT subversion.

He didn't ramble. Your source for his morphine addiction? Anslinger doesn't count, since he said that he, himself, gave some to M, after demanding that he stop. Shit source.

He didn't start the Black list.

Do you even know who Joe McCarthy was??

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My2Cents 1 point ago +1 / -0

Inquisitions covered govt, also anyone who worked in Hollywood or anywhere else. Cancel culture writ large. His cohorts in the House managed that part. All part of the same red scare movement. video evidence: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJzV6-wJ3SQ

read Blacklisted by History: The Untold Story of Senator Joe McCarthy and His Fight Against America's Enemies a 2007 book by author M. Stanton Evans

Head of the FBI and several agents admitted that the agency supplied the alcoholic junkie with his fixes. I'll take that testimony over your hand waving dismissal.

โ€œAgents who worked under [Anslinger] claim that the late Sen. Joseph McCarthy was addicted to morphine and regularly obtained his narcotics through a druggist near the White House, authorized by Anslinger to fill the prescription,โ€ Maxine Cheshire wrote.

Speaking of facts, maybe you can link to that list of Soviets in the Sate Dept., McCarthy never released. You cite no facts, only your denials and opinions.

at long last, have you no shame?

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peltast 1 point ago +1 / -0

First of all, you're proving your 'guilt by association' accusations with your 'guilt by association' fallacies. Now, THAT is logic! The HUAC wasn't McCarthy, try though you might to pervert the facts.

The Black List wasn't McCarthy, try though you might to pervert the facts.

maybe you can link to that list of Soviets in the Sate Dept., McCarthy never released.

Better yet, YOU show where he alleged a list that he never gave names from. BTW, knowing how using words accurately are low down on your agenda, how are you defining 'release'? Do you mean never showed it to State Department officials? Senate Investigators? The FBI? The NYT?? Alger Hiss's attorney? Your grandparents? It would have been irresponsible to 'release' a list, particularly back then.

Real facts for your perusal: During a five-hour speech,[62] McCarthy presented a case-by-case analysis of his 81 "loyalty risks" employed at the State Department. It is widely accepted that most of McCarthy's cases were selected from the so-called "Lee list", a report that had been compiled three years earlier for the House Appropriations Committee https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_McCarthy#cite_note-62

You cite no facts, only your denials and opinions.

I point out your sloppiness, and "I'm citing no facts, only my denials and opinions"?? Show where McCarthy did 1/10th of the nonsense you are alleging. You know, where he started the Black List, where he questioned, or had questioned Hollywood...anythings! You confuse the HUAC with McCarthy, lie and say that McCarthy created the Black List, ...what, I need to give cites that you don't know what you're talking about?

Your one attempt at scholarship was the quote from the McCarthy book about morphine. (I'll take the L on that point, even though I don't believe it. The quotes are just too glib, and fit the patterns of 'convenience' that can identify falsehoods. Plus, Maxine Cheshire isn't a good enough source, for me. ) Then, you're all over the place, again, with your ramblings and 7th grade logic.

You got busted with your standard, puerile, anti-McCarthy diatribe, so, you need to man up to it. Now, however, you are on your own, as I'm not going to debate McCarthy with you. Go back and actually read that book you grabbed the quote from, and then a book on inductive logic.

I WILL admit, your closing line was pretty witty.

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My2Cents 0 points ago +1 / -1

Guilt by association? A guy so closely associated with the blacklisting movement, we even call it MCcarthyism to this day? That's like they they named dicks after-must have been a major dick--we assume that's your name.

Our job as Americans and as Republicans is to dislodge the traitors from every place where they've been sent to do their traitorous work. -Joe MCCarthy- (blacklisting advocate)

Let's see, other than a handful of denials and attacking the messenger falacy on sources, you offer a Wikipedia blurb about "loyalty risks" remotely rumored to be 205 "card-carrying communists." Guilt by accusation is the essence of McCarthyism.

Communism sucks. There is no doubt the Soviet Union made efforts to influence US politics and culture, as we did theirs. That said, it is still legal to be a communist or a nazi or a canceled conservative voice in the USA. If enough people support those ideologies, we can even vote in that form of government here (absent election fraud).

Sorry, can't go along with advocacy of ending free speech or canceling livelihoods of political opponents, if that's what you are pushing. If not, we might be in agreement.